Excellent Tricks For Building A Telecaster Neck... On A Router Table

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I got an email from a Patreon supporter about making a neck on the router. Rather than simply replying I thought this was a great time to make a new video. Here is how we make neck blanks using the router table... with no chips or tear-out.
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@mgcnashville6615 2 года назад

Couple of things to add: make sure your router is in perfect working condition. When I started, I was using a top shelf porter cable router. I was unaware the bit was wobbling when in use. This caused lots of chip out and uneven surfaces. When I got a proper working router, it gave me much better cuts. This isn’t a common prob, but one to look out for. Also, when using large bits(over 3/4”-1” diameter” slow your routers speed down a notch. Helps a bunch.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Great point!

@danandratis 2 года назад

Really enjoy watching videos on "how I do it" - please keep them coming - cheers from Canada

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks Dan, will do!

@kevinmorris7722 2 года назад

You do great work Matt. The basics are important and you seem to walk thru it explaining very clearly. No wonder your classes have great success. Go Matt.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

I appreciate that Kevin, we love doing the guitar building classes and sharing a little bit of what we learned over the years.

@davidclink2032 2 года назад

In all the classes I took, they directed that you do end grain first then long grain because that removed and flaws in end grain cuts. Fyi, my original templates were .25" thick and restricted area for roller to ride. I re-made them with thicker material and added extra bearing to ward off gouging thin templates.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

@FrugalFixerSpike 2 года назад

When I retired and went from plumbing to guitar building, I had to make 2 big adjustments, a sharp pencil instead of a sharpie for marking. And added to digits to my tolerances. Now I work in .001 instead of .1 being close enough!! 😆 🤣

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

I know that's right brougham

@petedazer3381 2 года назад

Hey Matt, listen to me! Do what you want dude, just keep filming and we’ll keep watching.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks brotherman

@nigelchapman1291 2 года назад

Hi from the U.K. A big THANKYOU for helping me via your great videos. Watching and listening to all of them closely, and heeding your advise has saved me fingers, time, and expensive wrecked timber. I know that it's cold here, but I already have enough firewood!! Cheers, Nigel

@MrAZed209 2 года назад

Steve (Maximum Guitars) had an earlier video where he used some water on the heel and head for routing around the end grain sections. After seeing what you did here, I take it that as long as you get minimum overhang from the template and exercise caution and care, the water is not really necessary.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Well, I have showed you what I do and there were no secrets or edited segments. You will need to figure out what works for you and it may or may not be the same for me. Steve is a smart guy and I can recommend his techniques without reservation.

@tidesmain 2 года назад

I recommend sanding off as much material as possible even after bandsaw cut. Simply attach your template to the piece and use your spindle sander with the lowest grit sleeve to make the piece almost flush to the template. This solved 99% of tear out problems for me. With some woods like wenge sometimes it's impossible to avoid tear out even when leaving 0.25mm of material

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Good advice

@johnmansfield3598 2 года назад

Great tips here. The first neck I attempted after two successful necks from pine I effed up the router flung it across the garage and bounced off the wife's car, thankfully she can't drive and thinks she did it. I fortunately learned three things instantly and you mentioned all three cut close to the line, hold it tight against the bit , and only go clockwise.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

We all have some horror stories like that John, you know how it is, just got to keep plugging away

@jefflongino4999 2 года назад

everything Matt said.....and to reemphasize YOU MUST GET CLOSE to the line before the router table.....for me at the 2 end grain spots I do a 3 tool dance. 1) bandsaw 2) oscillating drum sander to tighten up the line and then 3) router table. For me the high E side of the heel has never been an issue but that low E side makes me pucker every single time. Everything Matt said plus a little extra attention to getting close to the line at those end gain spots seems to help.....but I still pucker.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Well, now you know how I do it

@robertprichard3236 2 года назад

Another great video from you guys.

@lewisworkshop 2 года назад

Awesome tutorial!

@mikeivey8471 2 года назад

Excellent explanation as usual , Matt !! Love these videos !!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Glad you like them Mike

@dastardlydave1455 2 года назад

Sound techiques for using a router table. Great start to a neck Matt!!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks brougham, wait till you get a load of what we got going for y'all in November

@thomaskolb5444 2 года назад

Veeeeery cool and interesting video. Thanks Matt!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks my friend

@brad-guitar-miller813 2 года назад

great tips on the router for all my projects. feel like I will be prepared when I get out there for a build.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

You can do it!

@scottakam 2 года назад

Thanks Matt. I have a tall Infinity bit. Works well but scares the crap out of me sticking out of the router table so far. Maybe I'll get the shorter one.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

That tall one is a monster, I would rather use the shaper. Believe it or not that 2" bit is the loudest thing in the echo shop

@ERWebster 2 года назад

I just bought one of those infinity bits about 2 months back. Still encased in plastic, can't wait to try it out on a body. Previously I was using a whiteside spiral cutter, I either had to take very small passes or pay close to the grain direction and flip the body and template. Had it launch a poplar body across the garage more than once when cutting the wrong way against the grain. 😬 Hoping this infinity bit will let me take it off in one pass, regardless of grain direction. 🤞

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

I think you will really like the Infinity bits

@drittal 2 года назад

I ruined a couple test necks the same way. Learned I had to use small cuts or risk the high speed 1/2” bit biting and flinging the work piece and ruining it. Also, I think you get much closer to template size when making your rough cut than most of us at home amateurs. I have since gone to the infinity tools that you reviewed and had no issues on the last neck I built making a full depth cut.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

You got to get close

@drittal 2 года назад

@@TexasToastGuitars maybe even touch it up on the spindle and belt sanders before hitting the router table. Get it right to the pencil line

@cruzedude1 2 года назад

thanks for these vids mat.so much good info,i hope to be able to come out to a class soon.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

I hope so too Chris

@onpsxmember 2 года назад

Great tips! Thx.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@docsiltanen 2 года назад

Thanks Matt…. that will definitely come in handy!!!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Hope so brougham

@zachcerasani3043 2 года назад

Thanks brother! Cheers!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

No problem 👍

@jerpratt 2 года назад

Thanks for the video in answer to my question. This is great. I just ordered the infinity bit which I will use for my next attempt. I don't have a band saw and have been using a jigsaw which I didn't feel comfortable getting too close to the line. But I forgot about my oscillating spindle/belt sander. So next time I will trim up the edges close to the line with the sander before trimming with the template. Thanks again for the video.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful Jerald

@jo_boo 2 года назад

Keep it real my man..love it

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks Donnie, we'll do my friend

@juliansuarez3849 2 года назад

Nice work!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks Julian

@briansimpson8116 2 года назад

Great video. I learnted stuff. Can't wait to break out the chisels and files and start my own neck.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

You can do it!

@stevenfolino405 2 года назад

Always great to see Hot Band Saw Action with Matt! Thanks for the video, as always full of practical advice!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Brother Steve

@stevenfolino405 2 года назад

I’m very thankful for all your content. Your channel is how I got started. I hope you, Ms. Toast and Chris are all doing great. It has been a ROUGH start to the school year as you can imagine and I’m trying to catch your live shows as often as I can. Keep up the Great Work as you’re a “Guitar Builder WITH a RU-vid Channel’

@sterlingsherman 2 года назад

Thank you so much for making this video. I’ve been stalling on making a neck out of some beautiful wood because my last few attempts went horribly wrong. I’m ordering some infinity bits today, for sure.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Go for it Richard, good call on the Infinity bits, we really like them

@moogoomoogoo5990 2 года назад

You should use a stunt double when working the power tools🥸🥸🥸

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Good idea!

@evilutionltd 2 года назад

Never take too much wood at a time. You either need a good bit or don't rout across the end grain, just get it on the sander.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Good way to go

@zapphoddbubbahbrox5681 2 года назад

LOL. I build guitars but can't be bothered with sound;) I kid, I kid.. love ya bro. Thanks for the vid!~

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

I guess you missed the point of that rant

@NeoRichardBlake 2 года назад

😂 Matt I love you man! "Stop telling me about mics! I'm not gonna do it!" "You're gonna need some tools." 😂 All these armchair experts telling a professional how to do things cracks me up. Keep doing it how you do it Matt. Even without your tools, with a little ingenuity, they're still helpful videos. One day I'll make a guitar, but I'd like it to be after I can actually play the damn thing. 😜

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks Sean I make videos for people who get me and I like your style

@fat-hand Год назад

Excellent video - thanks for the advice. I had same issue as patreon with getting to the unsupported corner and getting tearout even with a brand new spiral bit like yours. Question: I am thinking of trying an Infinity bit like in this video, with bearings top and bottom. Question: To avoid tear out, would it be a good idea to flip the template to be on bottom then raise the bit to ride the bottom bearing on the corners and endgrain that are unsupported?

@MangledGuitars 2 года назад

Coolness

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Thanks man

@jimhibert 2 года назад

Excellent video. Thanks for not speeding up the bandsaw cuts. Not everything cuts like buttah. Reality is important.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Glad you liked it Jim

@bevo65 2 года назад

I needed this. Thank you. 🙏Where do you get your bits?

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

You bet, those are from Infinity Tools

@BradHutchings 2 года назад

You know who else just goes clockwise? Clocks. ⌚ ⌚

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Except the anti-clocks... they go anti-clockwise

@ryno6101 2 года назад

I’d like to make a 7 degree headstock on a tele or strat neck without a scarf joint with a heel wheel truss adjust, any videos already made ?

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Well for 3 out of 4 of those there are videos

@FrugalFixerSpike 2 года назад

I need a new bandsaw blade, on my old Shopsmith saw. What tooth count do you use on yours, Matt??? Same for stock?? Thanks!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

I like the Starrett skip tooth blades

@JimFeeley 2 года назад

Great stuff! Do you think a "Build a lot of necks" class would be popular? Or maybe a "Build one guitar and a couple extra necks" extension (for more $) to existing classes?

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

We do offer a paint class with a build a necks portion while paint is drying

@dalgguitars 2 года назад

The end grain cuts on maple are the worst. I use my 12" disk sander to get as close as possible to that line so I'm just taking a sliver off at the heal and head.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

That works great too

@jakefromstatefarm9721 2 года назад

Instead of getting a microphone you should get one of those voice disguiser things. Like the ones kidnappers use. That’ll really grind some gears.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Good idea

@davedupuis2069 2 года назад

Great video. I have a router bit question for you. Even though I follow the "cut downhill" rule when putting the roundover on my bodies, I still get quite a bit of tearout. Is there a better style bit I could use for this task?

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

I don't know of any special round-over bits that help prevent tearout. Actually, I have never had any issues with this.

@davedupuis2069 2 года назад

@@TexasToastGuitars interesting. Maybe I just need to buy a better quality bit. Thanks for getting back to me.

@ChinJazz 2 года назад

Wondering if you put a link to the template you used here? Steve's template?

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Did you look in the description? There is a link to Maximum Guitar Works.

@zachcerasani3043 2 года назад

Hey, when do you route the truss rod channel? Looking for a new method, I always do that first before the basic shape is cut out, that way I can ride the fence with a square piece of wood. This method lends itself to heel adjust rods better , but I really want to get away from that. Thx in advance

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

HI Zach I usually route for the truss rod right after this step. I use the pin router for this rather than the fence... which also works well. Steve at Maximum also has some cool truss rod templates that use a bushing. I think you will see that video soon

@zachcerasani3043 2 года назад

@@TexasToastGuitars thx bro! Steve is supposed to be making me a custom set of templates for my guitar design this December. Looking forward to it! Thx again!

@timbuchanan3735 2 года назад

Assuming no overarm router on site...the truss rod slot is going to suck with no parallel edge to center cut.....of course we have many ways to do this but a newbe ?

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Why would you assume there is no overarm router? Why would you not be using the Maximum Guitars truss rod slotting template? And so on...

@hurdygurdyguy1 2 года назад

My delicate ears! You should get a microph.... Oh... never mind ... 😉 Always enjoy these how to videos!!!

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Some people

@tobaccorich 2 года назад

About 3 hours ago I drew around a neck with quite a blunt pencil. And. I m sorry.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

Don't play with my emotions

@mark5150ty 2 года назад

The moral of the story is don't use cheap router bits. I know they seem expensive, but in the long run they save you money. If you destroy your neck blank, it will cost you much more.

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад

You know that's true

@heymrguitarman7637 2 года назад

Sounds like you're getting pissed about people sending advice on the production side of your videos which is fair enough. But if you bought a better mic and added sound dampening to the room we'd be able to hear you getting pissed better 😂

@TexasToastGuitars 2 года назад