Exclusive Amiga Games - Part 1 

It changed the gaming landscape forever, no doubt about that.

Thank you! :) I hope to have the next one ready for Tuesday.

What about the dude in first level who hangs on the wall and is suspended by his arms? Do you remember how he looks like when you free him?

Premiere was interesting, and pretty fun too. For me however it would have to be Superfrog. Because of the sheer amount of secret areas, caches of gems and pathways.

@@OldAndNewVideoGames not to mention Superfrog had an awesome soundtrack to it that I sometimes still hum to myself today.

@@J_Stamps86 Agreed.

In time. I'm not done with C64's "10 Years of" series yet even...

:)

Weird times, right?

Yeah, presentation-wise Agony is on another level. It doesn't hurt that it plays well too. It's not the best shooter out there, but it looks amazing. Oh, definitely play the Arabian Nights! It's sooooo good! There's few larger "worlds" and they're all thematically different but you get like a lot of new items, you learn new mechanics, it doesn't get stale for a minute. The LemonAmiga score says it all. And the adventuring bits, while mostly environmental, are straight up adventuring bits and not just "get key, open door" stuff. Ambermoon and Black Crypt are both great, and both worth a playthrough but... And I'm gonna anger someone probably, if I was to settle on one only, it's gonna be Ambermoon. Oh, and Albion that you know of, is its spiritual successor. So if you liked it, you'll likely to enjoy Ambermoon too. Cedric, while a mixture of genres, often feels more like an adventure than a platformer, so... It's fun but I'm not sure it knows what it is itself. Not everyone enjoys its gameplay loop. The next video after this one is another of those Obscure DOS Games one, but after that, it's probably next about Amiga exes. Though I wanna fit in at least one episode for Early Windows and C64 before end of December. So, we'll see how it'll go. But yeah, I had fun with this first episode, so it's definitely going to be a thing.

Have you seen Dread on Amiga, it's a masterpiece of optimization.

@@Grzegorz54321 never plaid it but just had a look & yeh, it looks really impressive. I’ll have to give it a go. Retro gaming is a weird thing isn’t it? I can play far more sophisticated & better looking games on my modern(ish) PC & yet seeing a recent, really well optimised game for a 16bit home micro from my youth makes me happy.

And it's a spiritual successor to Ambermoon.

Great games, both. Neither an exclusive. :)

So, kinda like with the urban legend about dinosaurs? That they only saw movement?

I remember playing it first and expecting nothing special. It was a copy I got from a buddy of mine and read nothing about it before, so I didn't even know what it's gonna be. But it really surprised me.

@@OldAndNewVideoGames : I had played Dungeon master and Eye of the beholder before Black crypt , and being fond of that genre , I didn’t think any game could top them. I was wrong. First came eobt2 and then Black crypt. My oh my how sweet it was.

@@raggeragnar I love to be "disappointed" like that. ;)

The next video (as voice over RAWs for it are recorded already) will be the next episode of Obscure DOS Games, but after that, more likely than not, I'm doing a second of Amiga Exclusives.

Oh... Frontier is one of my all time faves on any platform. It must've been amazing having it run at full speed! :)

@@OldAndNewVideoGames It really was. Even the intro ran smoother with the 030. Me and my best friend would sit and watch the space opera before playing. So good. The only problem was that the frontier engine couldnt tell if a space port was on the front side or back side of the planet. If it was on the back side there was a real good chance you'll be flying into the planet at 1 million mph. Save and save often ;) XD

@@ihateevilbill Ha ha ha :) Yeah, I heard about it. I never had a better Amiga than A500, and moved to PC directly after so I never experienced it. But PC's port had its own slew of issues. Though it all may have missed me cause I used to land and take off by hand.

@@OldAndNewVideoGames The A1200 was my pride and joy (as you could probably tell). I even added a cd-rom to the machine. And that meant having to build my own 2.5" to 3.5" IDE adapter. Those were the days. I also eventually moved to PC around the time of Wolfenstein or possibly Doom. I was doing an HND in computing at the time so had access to a lot of PCs. My friend was so addicted to Doom he failed his HND XD The only thing I didnt like was the lack of game controller compatability when I first moved to PC. It felt like being back on the Spectrum using QAOP to play side scrollers. It was all very strange. It wasnt until I converted a PS1 controller to use the parralel port that gaming actually became fun again.

@@ihateevilbill Arguably, the Amiga choice of controllers, while very open and could even use those from some of the older systems (all my C64 joysticks graduated to Amiga with me), was the biggest limiting factor for it. Single-button controls was terrible. I mean, it was OK, for those smaller 8bit systems, but we should really get at least 3-buttons on our controllers - be it joysticks or gamepads. And I know that some joysticks had 2 separate buttons and some games supported it. But that's not only at least a button to few, but also few and far between.

Yeah, it's gonna be a thing now. I like it too. :) It's in the second (today's) video too.

That may be the case.

If you had the machine for it is a great summary of these more demanding shooters. That's why I liked Gloom Deluxe, cause you could make it run on a basic Amiga. Sure, it was in a very small window, but it worked. Same for The Citadel. You could say that I was "a fan" of squeezing as much as it was possible from the aging basic hardware. :)

I know there was one in first game, don't remember it in second. Though, you may be right and it requires beefier config, and that's all.

Oh, I will. Next one next week.

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Nice!

:)

I loved Arabian Nights, and I'm glad to find someone else who did too. It's a quality title, and it's a wonder that it wasn't ported to any other system.

Good game!

Or she's like the Santa. And you didn't make the cut. ;)

Ha ha ha :) But good memories otherwise, right?

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Oh yeah!

:)

Or... who copied Black Crypt characters into GoT? ;)

That's... That's a valid question. o_O

Both are excellent! :)

xD

It's alright, maybe you'll be lucky with tomorrow's video. :)

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I mentioned because the sign asked to let you know, but I didn't find any message letting you know haha. BTW, just found your channel and I'm having a great time watching your content.

@@diegofloor Thank you so much! :) And please have a little understanding for those older videos of mine if you ever get to them, as they were pretty rough. xD

:D

You know how there's the new and old testament? It's from the "oldest testament". ;)

They still keep releasing paid DLC for the Bible?

@@AntipaladinPedigri Is there any other? The latest, I believe, was the Church Roof addon. ;)

A lot but not enough? ;)

I actually completed Ambermoon, and agree that it's fantastic. It was easily one of my most favourite RPGs on the Amiga. That said, as you probably noticed not all videos are my own. The reasons are many, but most immediate of them all would probably be time. So, sorry to disappoint, I hope that you found at least a thing or two else interesting in the video. And if not, I get that too. Thanks for watching nonetheless! :)

Well, it had pretty stiff competition on Amiga.

@@OldAndNewVideoGames that is true. I should try it out again sometime just for curiosity sake.

@@theriverofgordon1470 :)

In my opinion Breathless was visually pretty and smart, but bland. Alien Breed 3D, despite being pixelated, was far more interesting and colourful and had excellent level design. There was visual variety in the different weapons and you could actually see your weapon on screen, whereas with Breathless you didn't which just exacerbates the nagging sense of emptiness in its grey, monotonous world. The Breed 3D games had much more varied and interesting environments.

Dunno Descent on Mac works only with PowerPC equipped machines

I have to protect the first AB3D. Actually this game is really fun with real 3D (with water!) what running reasonably well on a plain A1200. Chunky, yes, but that's the performance what can do with only Chip RAM (read the TL;DR below), and a reasonably cheap, but not too fast CPU (68EC020). That's actually the market on Amiga where the companies can sell games. CPU accelerators/RAM expansion is too expensive in those times - a 68040 or a '60 CPU was just a dream for most of the Amiga users. If I right remember the AB3DII is failed from financial perspective. In the video, the Breatless part is a part of a longplay what played on an emulator (actually played by me) where CPU -> Chip RAM speed is breakable (with this, the emulation is not perfect, but Breatless doesn't care). Without this, the game can only do 20-22 FPS even with very fast CPU emulation (even order of magnitude multiple of any real Amiga CPU can do). TL;DR: The actual problem with Amiga full screen texture mapped 3D was mostly the Chip RAM bandwidth (more specifically the CPU -> Chip RAM data copy) and the base computer's configuration (like a plain A1200) where there is no other RAM, just chip RAM (where the CPU actually only get half of the RAM's cycles = roughly can do half of the possible CPU performance). And the smaller part of the problem is the special planar display mode (what's perfect for bitplane manipulation - eg. what do in 2D platformers - but horrible for raw bit data display - like copy calculated 3D images to the display RAM (on those times, where no physical 3D accelerators)). (Chip RAM that's where the graphics display is done - more or less like VRAM in PC's graphics cards, but in Amiga other functions too using this RAM, eg. sound.) The first problem (CPU -> Chip RAM data copy) sadly can't evadable, that's why can't see games what can higher than 20-22 FPS (in 320x200/240/256 resolution) even with very fast CPU (68060, or later PowerPC), on AGA chipset (the chunky to planar conversion is actually can do with clever code, with minimal impact to the performance). Unless the CPU can actually calculate all 3D with reasonable speed (like Descent on Amiga with external graphics card and a 040 or 060 CPU - running perfectly fine, like on PCs - but these Amiga configuration's price is horrible in those times), the data can't copy to the Chip RAM fast enough to display.

I think there actually was port of Descent on Amiga, but years after it was only kept alive but the remaining few fans, and Commodore and Escom have been long no more.

I agree.

It's not that bad, at least compared to Amiga's Strider.