Thank TS for clearing the Hoover Crip/Groover discrepancy up OG. Didnt expect that to be the answer. Thats a cold twist that Hoover didnt branch off or have any direct ties with Hoover Groovers whatsoever. This the typa history that can only come from 1st hand accounts. Founding members of Hoover. Any info past founding members that were there is a pass down and those pass downs get further from the truth as the generations go down the line. Kinda like that game "Telephone". Im sure the majority of Non-Hoovers thought that Hoover Crips came from Groovers as well. Thank you for clarifying it here on yall own platform. Respects to all the OOOGs on here speaking yall truth. Have a blessed new year.
@@OldSoulwithAColdStroll If one go back to previous interviews in the comment section one will see how both me and Bubbles exchanged words with a Original Hoover Hroovers where we try to convince him to come on the podcast., however he decline due to their old school codes of ethics and honor Never to dis use their bizzness. As he put it for one to be a original Hoover Groover and still living you hVe to be in your 70s and 80s...
To keep it 💯 I’m over 50 and the other side of the 110 and Broadway,but ever since I was a kid the Hoovers always been about they Cripping love ‘em or hate them they 100 with they Cripping ✌🏾
@@TonyStacy-ky4hc everyone has and will know you since kev mac and UTG is shedding more light on the history of Hoovers… no one else can tell this story besides “Hoovers” 🤫
Very informative and insightful!!! The enlightenment of Hoover’s story in a chronological order is essential to give the CRIP story context!!!! Not only does it give context to CRIPS and its trajectory but simultaneously provide FACTS relating to the culture of GANG BANGING (Trendsetters)!!!
I said it before and I'll say it again Tony Stacy Legend know him from the streets and the penitentiary I'm 57 years old his name been ringing since I was nine and if you peep his name always comes up indifferent interviews
Lil' Hooves' brother, Art (both H.I.P.) was not a Hoover Groover. Yeah, they lived on 75th, but Art was never a Hoover Groover. Like his brother's, his family, he was strictly a Hoover Crip.
@@UnderThaGroove Bubble I know that go back and listen to that segment Hola•Ray said Art was a Hoover•Groover out the 43rd St section of LA he said he was apart of the Hoover•Groover Car club different Art fam.
I'm presently going. Thru a Ugly Divorce which I have two other Books ready to drop but can't until this Wicked Divorce is over with...What a life, What a Beast!!
@@TonyStacy-ky4hc why y'all don't speak on the Fresno Hoover's? Im confused G hoover groovers was before hoover Crip so how y'all not the same? Not question your history just questioning my ppl from ur set I was told the term groove come from 92?
@@GBall-pq1jz Greetings! First of all this is not my show/ platform. This is the love one "Bubbles " platform, I follow his Script. I'm sure he will get to the Fresno tribe. Remember u have zgroove sets all around the States so he can only cover so much. Right now he is cover All Groove sets out of L.A. WHERE IT ALL started from. Everyone heard a lot of False information even me , However this history is one big Paradox ! It's up to the individual what they belive or not belive...One!
Yes they did. The older dudes in the hood were Hoover Groovers, basically hustlers and some of them continued hustling while a few started gang banging. I was very young, but I remember them: Baby Johnny, Boguard, Lalease and others around 52nd street.
@@blackice7483 Dead Eye Clint is an East Side Crip , he lived in what today is Swan Hood, when the Area was Solid Crip.....His younger brother is a Swan.
Who brought the 107 set to Texas in the 70's ? I was told it was a Family member of the legendary singer WILLIE HUCH , and then it went to Oklahoma City from there. In the 80's the 90's Hoovers went to Tennessee along with the Kitchens? Cause my family from there them basically the only two CRIP sets they are Familiar with 9Duece HOOVERS and KITCHEN
Nina Rosses " Rick a Shay " is on his way soon. Please be Patient that include all " H " tribes this stuff take time....Stay watching cause U won't be Disappointed !! One!
ASD(Anti Self Destruction) Long Table. My Uncle RIP Fred Horn with Rosey Grier and Councilman Robert Bob Farrell founded the Long Table. Uncle Fred told me that Bulldog Benny Ray Simpson was his main man at the Long Table. Tookie worked with Bob Simmons at the boys home and was not a part of the Long Table.Each hood had 2 representatives present. The objective was to bring issues to the table and squash beefs. One day following a meeting at the Long Table a member of the Brims Jimmy Celestine was killed leaving the Long Table and that was the end.
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What TS said or what it sounds like is Hoover Groovers were a separate entity..almost how I can compare how South Park businessman were and then it was Avalon crips and then “gangster”crips Avalon and South Park businessmen werent the same but they were the older homies but separate entity?
Slausons, businessmen, gladiators, Groovers, avenues - were all separate entities. These were older groups ---- generations over crips. Out of the same neighborhoods -crip sets formed.
Yo OGs so my pops is from Eastside Washington hoover in fresno cali i dont know if you heard of that branch they been around since late 90's - early 2000s. Me being a blood but hearing yall stories remind me of how he would go krazy for the H😂😂 i don't know if heard of them or not ogs but these stories bring them days back where we would be on the eastside and he all oranged out head to the toe throwing up the H.😂
Much respects! Look, someone else outta Fresno " H "wanted to know in the comment section when will Fresno Hs will be On. The love one Bubbles who is running this them guya out there have to give Bubbles a line to contact them in the future...Where " Lonely Boy at ? Peace !
@@TonyStacy-ky4hc yup respect big bruh💯 I'm not asking if they gone kome on the pod that'll be hard if they do tho. but I'm asking if yall heard of the Eastside hoovers. I know in fresno yall know more about Westside hoovers but on the Eastside In fresno there a branch of hoovers to and not alot people know that im just asking if the ogs heard of it. I don't know about no lonely boy big bruh but my pops is j boi from Eastside Washington Hoovers
@@rick16916 Supreme.greetings! ! No, none of us ever heard of any East Hoovas, something new to us. Lonely boy is a factor out of the other Fresno Hoovas.
In the future were atleast Me will get yo all that. There is something about Big Tookie book that only a chosen few of us know about and yhose other few is from another C-Set.
I got a few questions that would be good for your channel when doing interviews of older Hoovers 1. What was it like when the all Hoovers was still Crippin in the county jail & prison, as far as unity with the now considered rival Crips? 2. Which Hoover Crip made the call to denounce the Crip oath & why didn't they stand ten toes down to the oath and remain solid to the core? 3. Why don't the younger Hoover generation know their history behind the flip, and if they did know the history would they stay true to the original cloth that was threaded by the original Hoovers Crips who died or went to prison for Hoover Crip? 4. Why didn't the older Hoover Crips denounce Crippin, why was it important for them to keep the oath, even when the Crip on Crip war was at a all time high?
So the Hoover Groovers has nothing to do with Hoover Crips right? And I mean no disrespect, but if so?? You're upholding a book that is supported by a false narrative correct.? And basically, your saying that Tookie was wrong about his story about how the Hoover Groovers turn Hoover Crips in 1972. And the reason being that the killing of Lil Chocolate possibly by the Westsde crips or the Figueroa boys which later and supposedly the reason of turning Hoover crip was false too? I'm confused.
His story is true now if listen carefully Hola Ray & TS said Hoovers Groovers was basic on 43 rd and Vermont? If not correct think they became 43 Hoovers. Hoovers Groovers definitely keep Hoover in there name.
@@groovegangaudio I just go back to Hoover Joe's interview when said Hoover Crips came from a collective of many people from many sides and he included East Side, West Side and Hoover Groovers. So maybe a few but not many Hoover Groovers turned Hoover Crips when it became a thing.
Only thing confusing about Hoover Crips not coming from Groovers is y'all still using the word Groove. Do you still say Groove or Grooving to pay homage or what? I need a O.G Hoover Crip to help me out!
No, by Hoovers still using the words Groover , Hoover Groover , etc. Is not paying Homage to the original Groovers. As said before we wrote and shouted out " Hoover Groover blood remover " in our younger days and the bottoming it just morphed into the Hoover Crips history that will remain 4'Ever!!!!
@@southcentralfinest1286 lnsofar as me talking about when some love ones stabbed me in the pen. Bottom line it was a Wro g judgement call some in-house scandalous politics. Ain't no need to go indept about it again plus in recent times " Cutes " from " Magnificent- 7 " brought it up in one of the Comment. They know what it is...No shame in my game cause it's all apart of the Struggle especially when one is in power of Leadership you gonna always have folkz attempting to overthrow the government and that is with any Apparatus...Peace ✌
And,I'm say Hoovers are way are off experience of crip multiple how crips came together against them thru true or false reasons. From my understanding.
The Selo'z are after the 43's, who are coiming up next. Hopefully, we can get the right Selo Hoover's to the table to discuss 107 Hoover Crip origins to avoid some of what we witnessed in the previous interview.
I'm not sure if there's anyone around that can 100% explain the thought process of Moo Moo and The Nine Deuces for when the seloz transition from 92 to 107. Maybe Red, Smiley, or Raybone.
You're still wrong. It was not named after the surgeon who was in napoleon army. Who later moved to California. The street was named after his son, who was a well-connected track developer.
@UnderThaGroove ok fasho....but my question STILL stands....why yall reppin a name of a white person who would have likely watched you hang in a tree with a smile on they face? All the decades of War against yo own people now LA is gentrified very few of you left to have a strong presence the Mexican latinos and immigrants have taken over.