You can easily tell who got left here. It was never 50/50 as alleged. Man is salty AF... Find a way to get over that. "Dont introduce men I dont know, to my kids" a man who got introduced to another man's child giving rules. Life is khaaard out here.
I see you're subscribed to Kibe but haven't learned a thing. 👉🏾When Rammzy was introduced to the kids, it was their father's responsibility to set that boundary. He didn't. 👉🏾Rammzy is the captain now. He has set his boundary. Your feelings on what a next man does to protect his family are irrelevant. 👉🏾Educate yourself. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_effect#:~:text=In%20evolutionary%20psychology%2C%20the%20Cinderella,by%20her%20stepsisters%20and%20stepmother. 👉🏾you're outchea white knighting and simping. Tuck your shit in.
But the father of the kid was present and they met. Also it's the same rule for him. He is not bringing women near his kids. Some level of responsibility
An example of a mature breakup & he’s out here sub tweeting on twitter, doing interviews while the other party has remained quiet? The only person handling this maturely is Shiko tbh you don’t owe the world a single explanation unless you’re being paid for these interviews.. he may not have said foul things about her but there’s strong insinuation of disrespect..
I totally agree on the subtle undertones of disrespect....'he left all his hoes for a woman with a child....' he says she should have learnt from her first divorce as she is a divorcee...the subtle digs at her are lethal and goes to show how he really feels about her and women in general...
Butbwhy should we expect people to keep quiet because the other party is quiet? They are their own person's buana not subject to each other's choices.the only thing I agree on are the subtle hints of disrespect. Mkuachana huna right ya kuexpect that mhandle things the same
@@muriukiwanja1181 "..and women in general..". We don't do that here, we're way beyond sensationalism😉 Also, its his side of the story, its his POV, he is holding a candid conversation about how he feels. Allow the man to be selfish and honestly express himself. If the other party is given a platform, we also allow them to be selfish and express themselves honestly.
@@alerncheruiyot344 wasn't looking for sensationalism. There are ways he could have said he did not get along with her without making it look like he diluted his masculinity or did her favour by being with a single mum and more so a divorcee. Delivery is everything...and if the lady in question had responded as he had my feedback would have been the same.
@@muriukiwanja1181 I get it, but I'll ask you again, he is telling his side of the story as it is. Why do you feel like he needs to adjust his views and deliver them in a way YOU feel it's correct, yet it's how he feels? Sijui kama unanielewa😅😊
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It's a little cringe how y'all talk about women - hoes, logic etc. Would love this conversation with a bit more maturity and objectivity from the host. Healing to everyone going through this. It's crucial we understand the way the men or women we commit to view relationships and the other sex.
But you are sanctioning the same things the men are trying to highlight about how they are different with particular reference to the logic part. That is basic science and it's a part that most women need to harness so they communicate better same way men need to learn to master their emotions but everytime men say it they are castigated for it. Yes the language should be watched but the facts should remain
So many parts of this conversation made me very uncomfortable. It felt like I was listening in on a conversation between boys at a bar. A lot of ego, emotional immaturity but oh well!
I gave her everything 😢😮bro she has 2of your kids,you gave them to your kids weeh mungu wangu not these kind of men nowonder they separated, the lady is something else too 😮
Hats off for you guys, Stumbled upon this after a huge fight with my ex-partner which ended being a police case. Co-parenting is for very mature people
This was wholesome in every way. Important conversation especially hearing from the men themselves. There were instances i felt though that the host shut down the men especially when they were trying to explain how they felt in certain instances. She also completed thoughts for them which is not always the nicest thing to do. Kindly check on that, let the guest tell their stories , share their opinions without rushing them a]or completing their thoughts for them. waiting for part 2
This podcast has aloooot of potential to bloom in regards to helping navigate coparenting, but it would be great if conversations are had with maturity, respect and more advice and what to do and what not to do than rather asking personal questions that help nothing .
That single mum part, we need to understand that it never means that she is less or requires less or will demand less as compared to one without kids. Realistically speaking, her demands and expectations be more because you already found her a parent. She is already with responsibilities so she is definitely thinking different and I think that is the part men find hard adjusting to, like getting in a relationship and you have to like immediately pay schoolfees or start parenting immediately etc.
Seriously Rama??? Style up!!! Saying Ciku should have learnt from the first time ??? Shame on you and all you women praising him , remember Ciku has never chased clout with this thing , SHAME ON YOU RAMA, respect Ciku
The way he views women and talks about them, no no no,...Men always speak the truth, but women fail to listen, just listen to that guy speak, issa no...
Just found myself responding to your comment with "A big no", out loud.😂 He is a mix of amerix na nai boys babied by their parents. Pure toxicity together with the guy in torn trousers. And the lady, oh the lady. She's the typical understanding girlfriend that clearly has suffered 😭
Dropped all my ho*s for a single mom. Wild! Can't believe he is talking about Shiko and Ella like this. I wish him healing and I hope Shiko maintains her silence and doesn't reply back to this mes. Eh dunia!!
I hear him calling Ella his daughter then goes behind her backhand says he can't provide and pay school fees for another man's child? How is Ella his daughter then?
Ramzzy, you guy 👏👍... accepting and being accountable is on another level of maturity. Many will say negative things but for sure you're doing what's best for you same to mama Ella... we as woman like to play the blame game not knowing what will happen next
“It takes a lot for me mentally and emotionally to be here “ men😂 don’t have kids if that’s your mentality. Expecting to be praised for being available to your own kids is insane😂🥴 heh
Straight from KOX. I'm not sure if Rama demeaned Shiko or he's immature or the interviewers ndio wamechapa but they all seem like they have a lot of issues to heal and work on. Redflag is trying to brag about the young babes, hitting and logical women 😂 Weuh. Heal guys. Sio mchezo this journey. Speak to older men and women
First of all...Shiko needs therapy! May God be there for her and her adorable kids always. May God prosper the works of her hands and expand her territories,to give her kids the best life. In the mean time,Holy Ghost fire burn the tongues of these two immature men.Amen.
“Most women are not logical,you are” and the woman is just there giggling because of validation from an ex or whatever you guys are. So many negative things being said about women in this podcast . Also Rama is crying oh negative comments ,these comments are nothing compared to how your fellow men are cooking you on Twitter lol
Still it changes nothing, he pained man, man has the capacity to push people to be nasty, the only difference is Rama is being painfully raw on a public social platform. Pretty sure by the time he said yes to this, he knew what would unfold. Also Chim telling the mother of his kids that she is logical and it has taken her time to get there and that most women are not logical is not disrespectful it's the Truth, a natural truth, it's not supposed to shame anyone, it was supposed to shed light. He also touched on how men miss the emotional aspect creating a source of conflict and how he has learned that part from his co parent. Raw conversations are not always disrespectful sometimes our perspectives and thought process is what leads us to concluding something was said in disrespect
Indeed. The fallacy that men are automatically logical is laughable. Most men are not logical either hence why the Kibes and Amerixes thrive. There are individuals that are more logically and emotionally intelligent and there are those that are not.
Very candid conversation.. Very important in this time and day.. The fact the host is there with her ex at peace with their journey shows alot maturity.. really good content
It couldn't work. None of them came from a healthy family background. He hasn't grown up with a father and her mother passed on kitambo. They should have dated more and got therapy before having kids. It was clear from the beginning this wouldn't last.
M(27) I gotta respect the honesty of this conversation: Rammzy seems very comfortable and open; and man the articulation of ideas by the whole panel is outstanding.
My two cents for Rammzy.....this is not the best platform for exercising freedom of speech esp on personal matters....ur adding a nail to the coffin...details achia therapist or maboys....for ur sake, the kids n ex...less is more...esp if ur trying to get to a place where you can be cordial.
Oh noo and the way Ella had bonded with you, all that will be undone by what you have said. Ati I ain't taking care of a child that's not mine and the only reason you gave Shiko a chance was coz u didn't have to pay for her 😢
Talk about red flags 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 how he speaks about the mother of his children says it all. I am one of those that admired him. But listening to his point of view, he should have never had kids with a single mum. She doesn't deserve him.
I'm not here to say who of the two was wrong. My guess is 50% to each of them. BUT. Ladies, DO NOT PLAY HOUSE WITH ANY MAN. It always ends in tears. If he's not ready to put a ring on it, leave him where you found him. And save yourself heartache.
I am listening to the Crib Sheet podcast episode ya @RamzZy_ and I'm drawing parallels from their break up. I'm getttinf to appreciate my own jus the way he did. Takes a lot kukubali whatever happened and how far back it pulls you. What matters ni kurise tena. My Tweet after listening. Wekeleeni part 2 soom
The guy in blue hat is trying so hard to be a bad boy and thuggish and show offs Am conflicted on shiku and rama issue,seems Rama is enjoying the new season of getting attention from the babes,side chicks,ho*s and sinhle mothers,its saf but hope he gets well
Look , love Rama and love Shiko and wish them all the best . It is unfortunate the relationship failed. There's absolutely a pattern with Shiko , I really hope she takes the time to herself before rushing into another situation, it is terrible for the kids especially the daughter who has gone through this twice now . Rama as calm as you come across , feels like there is still much healing to do , particularly how you view women , you are disparaging in some of your utterances , can't help but think Shiko must have experienced this attitude in some form or another. As for the host today , she is still got unresolved anger , she could barely look her ex in the eye and carried on the interview like he wasn't there . Phew ! dramaz!!!
I really wish we could view co parenting from a mature point of view. I have seen baby daddies who only want to be in the kid(s) picture if they still have sex with the baby mama and I have also seen baby mamas who only allow dads to be in the kid (s) children if they send money. Otherwise they use the children as a weapon against these men and it gets worse when the man moves on to marry and have a solid family. May God favour us..
The interview is biased and not handled in a mature way. Rama, if u had money to buy a car, u would have done it before. Buying gas cooker, beds after separation cannot stop you from purchasing a car😂😂😂
And it's been like 2 years since, kwani bado he hasn't bounced back financially to afford a car???!! Blame-game and excuses tu. Shiko underwent the same transition and she was able to sell her old manual car and upgrade hadi. He is being trashy by using disparaging utterances on Shiko
The podcast had a potential to be very impactful...But the guys threw in alot of shade on women...its like the othr guy wanted some one to validate his behaviours...Th woman here was jst giggling yet the guys were being disrespctful...thre is alot of healing that needs to happen to Rama...cz he is salty af...There is sth off with this panelist as a whole..but the conversation would have been great..I wish there was a 4th person to kind of moderate the conva...Idc I kinda loved some bit of it but..somehow...between lines..there is sth jst wrong
Wale mashangingi wa toxic ambao huwachwa na wana blame it on the ex 100% ndio wako hapa waki ongea mbaya juu ya Ramah and what he has said. He stood tall for his ex and himself and showed no ill will and disrespect to his baby mama! Listen to his words, see his body language and compare it to the co-hosts's (the dude) and see that these are men at two very different levels of maturity when it comes to responsibility and parenthood!
could we get a part 3? Seeing that Shiko is now engaged, and with Rama saying he wouldn't allow his kids to meet a man he doesn't know etc...i'd like to know what the dynamics are for him (Rama) now...this podcast exudes negative vibes through and through...this chic giggling is so annoying...also, the dude is living vicariously through Rama when he talks about vetting 'hoes', telling Rama he's a better man than him coz he didn't 'chipo' a chic after the break-up...there's a lot going on here!
"Men, there are no rules for being a "real man". Anyone who tells you that is trying to control you. There are as many healthy valid versions of masculinity as there are men to perform them. Millions of masulinities, in fact. Create/find/evolve the one that's right for you." Mark Green @remakingmanhood
It should be obvious to you as a father that provision is your responsibility. It has nothing to do with the mother of your children. You shouldn’t even be shocked that it’s required of you.
Correction shiku is still hot I wish kenyan men would adopt the loss of relationship not to meanthe discard of ur kids!! Provide and make time for these kids for real Ramzy may be a good dad but i kid u not shiku left with enough reasons😊
That "Hell no!..." @17:58 was kinda too loud though, you can see the dude got that stomach sinking kind of feeling when you realize she is actually gone🙂
@@gachanja she doesn''t think so at all😃, if you watch keenly she is really dismissing most of the things he tries to argue out and she goes out of her way to affirm Rama's POV. Its a polite, si unyamaze tu wasee wengine wabonge....not nice🙂
It's commendable that the guys are being real. However, being real shouldn't be mingled with bad language. Also to refer to the delusion they mentioned. . .they are themselves delusioned that a child is not insightful enough to know that the parents are actually separated, and no longer a couple; not that they just live where they do because of work. In all, though candid. . . maturity with honour still evades the two gentlemen.
