I'm a certified retrogrouch but I don't mind the more traditional styled frames when they have discs etc (though disc isn't my cup of tea), but I think having a threadless stem and pressfit bb really spoils the whole look.
Thanks for the review and the site in general. Both my wife and I bought gravel/touring bikes during the pandemic. Not wanting to spend a ton of time in bike shops, this channel was a life saver for our research. She got a Space Horse (2020 model, not this one). I got a 2021 Kona Rove DL (formerly ST). You clued us in on things to look for, tire sizes/clearances, all of it. We are both coming from strict road cycling history.
I built up a Space Horse frame and fork a few months ago with an Industry Nine 650b wheelset and Microshift Advent X. It's a great bike for my style of riding, pavement, gravel, mild singletrack, it does it all and looks good doing it.
Although, not super flashy or lightweight this is probably one of the best looking production bikes you've featured IMO. Love it! The GRX build is safe and could shed some weight by ditching tubes and fitting lighter wheels (possibly -2 lbs). For bikes in their lineup I'm more interested in their Super Professional personally, sliders and more "fun"/"playful" geo are more important :)
I have a green 2019 frame build from Analog and love it. It was my first build and really my first serious bike. I love it but unfortunately discovered its to much bike for what i can ride. I have taken it on long road trips with G-Ones as well as gravel and single track on 2.25 Thunderburts. I put a White Industries 32t paired with a eThirteen 9-46 so plenty of gearing. I love the steel and find the bike to be very solid on the road and on the singletrack. Quick enough to toss around quickly on gravel as well. Unfortunately as I said I found myself riding it to much one the road so I’m selling it. I think its an amazing gravel / singletrack bike!
Just built my 2020 Space Horse with the blue colorway and a 1x set up a month ago and yes, I think this is the bike I'll only need for mostly everything (not for racing, of course) :) Can't wait to try it for any next rando event
@@kellrockets101 Hey, great to hear you're building the space horse! I love it so far and I've concluded that I'll never sell this bike (if not for financial reason). Been riding it almost 10000 KM now after almost 2 years. My setup is 40t chainring front and 11t-42t sprocket with GRX groupset and 700x35 wheelset. I use it for daily commute, endurance training, occasional long rides, and some Audax (200 - 300km) events. Truly an all-rounder :) I have to say that it's definitely not the fastest bike on earth, so it's pretty hard to keep up on a peloton but it's so reliable on long rides and gravel rides. On my last ride I can still do 25kph - 30kph without much exertion for 300km, but above that it's a pain haha hope this helps tho! Lemme know how your build goes or post your build on All-City Facebook Group!
i ride an all city mk ltd for 2 years now ... Sometimes i thought about buy a carbon frame but steel is so smooth, reliable and solid i don't want anything else. Instead a new frame i have upgrade to a very nice dt swiss 1400 24 db carbon wheelset and now its perfect, i love it...
Thanks to you videos ive just started ordering parts for my new gravel bike and its totaled to be $5346 AUD in just the main parts. The frame hasn't even been made yet but thats a further $2,200. I ordered parts because I got sucked in everything was '1' remaining :) But... I understand this channel is for budget but functional builds and yes, my bike was going to start off being a budget build other than the frame but the budget was to be $3000 aud for a custom carbon gravel bike, but trouble hit. My idea of putting my spare GX sram eagle on the bike and reusing all spare parts was completely ruined, I though new mechanical sram force was 12 speed... even if it was it wont shift a eagle derailleur. I looked into GRX but the gear ratios are not right for me. So final build, full sram force 1x with dropper post with power meter crankset with 36T ring. I needed a 50T cassette that wasn't microspline but 11 speed. So im putting a Garbaruk 50t 11spd cassette on pair of zipp carbon wheels with XD driver body. Sram rival derailleur with eagle cage. Yep thats it... not much to the build but it cost me HARD buying everything individually and lots from USA with $30 shipping and huge import taxes. So hard to find SRAM here in Australia but shimano ultegra would have been half the price.
It's a "light touring bike" not a full blown touring bike like the LHT. So yes, it could come in a little lighter. A Bombora can be built under 25lbs. Also the Kona Libre which is similarish comes in under 25lbs.
@@PathLessPedaledTV What sort of weight limit would you estimate for touring with the bombora? Considering building one up- but would like to use it for some longish touring- but in places like the US, UK and France, not Africa. I feel like the Bombora can do it. Have any thoughts on that?
Was looking at these a while back and found an old vid of someone apparently suing All City due to frame failure causing injury - anyone know if that was real, what happened after etc? It looked old so one would assume if there were fault, which there might not have been, the it'd be resolved by now. Just curious as so many of the All City bikes look fantastic and so tempting.
Real. Frame failures are not uncommon for any brand though. I think the reason that All City was sued was because they didn't own up to covering the victims bills. FWIW I just toured my 2020 Space Horse 210 miles the length of New Jersey with no problems.
@@djlesinski7978 thanks for the reply. Like you say I'd imagine quite a few frame, and component for that matter, manufacturers have had issues at one point or another. One cas in thousands, especially on an older model, is not too concerning I guess.
@@thebrowns5337 it was a brand new bike that it happened on. How they handled the case stopped me from buying one - there's no excuse for fork failure.
Hi Russ, long-time viewer, first-time commenter. I'm thinking about picking up a Space Horse to break into rando brevets. Currently have an '84 Schwinn Voyageur which is an excellent bike but leaves something to be desired re: modern spec (narrow tires, cantis, a bit too big for me). Do you think the Space Horse would be well-suited to true rando riding? Thanks!
Outside of not being low trail, which I don't think is a deal breaker I don't see why not. It is plenty comfortable and can take a front rack. There is also a fair amount of weight that can be shed in the wheels and components if you wanted to make it a little lighter.
I miss my old horse, bummed about the small cassette, which was my biggest complaint about the old bike and one of the reasons I sold it, in addition to loving disc brakes. Do you know how big of a cassette you can go on the stock derailler/shifter setup?
Path Less Pedaled Thanks, Thats good news at least. Cassette swap and it’s ready to go for steep grades! Digging the crank though, makes a lot of sense to with that range. Not too weird / sketchy shifting from 46 down to 30? That seems like a big jump.
Gotta quibble a bit with one of your suggested uses: it's precisely because the bike has such nice looks that make it a horrible choice for commuting. Personally, I want my commuter bike to look like the cheapest piece of beat up trash locked at the bike rack.
I have a Diamant 135 which is the German version. It's an incredible bike and can handle 29er tires too. It handles load very well. The racks are super stiff and have handled an insane amount of abuse from my riding. The bike is also a lot of fun to ride unloaded. It handles single track well, if you're into the rigid life.
@@TheRickurb it will be worth the wait! You might have an easier time finding a frame and building it up, but the color on the Grando just looks awesome.
This looks like a great bike, especially for the money. But that atrocious color is a deal breaker for me. Normally the color isn't really a factor for me, but I just can't do this one.
@@thisishowiedewitt76 True. I'm typically just looking at frames so will swap stuff over or get the best deal and sell off the parts I don't want. But that makes sense for what most are looking for. Didn't think about it that way
Love your channel and posts but this one is not one of your better offerings. You reviewed it like it was up against every bike category instead of reviewing it for what the bike was made for and what ,in fact, it does.
Ever since that All City fork fell apart nearly killing a guy, I just can't do all city anymore. They denied all responsibility and wouldn't even cover his medical expenses.
Well then I hope you also swore off Salsa and Surly because all three are QBP bikes--they fabricate the frames and forks. To be honest, though, it was a freak break. It happens with many manufacturers.
@@ianlaughlin9281 Ian, their product failed freak accident or not. If they stood behind their product they would have done something to help - replacing the bike would have been a good start.
@@driventomadness117 If they were truly at fault, then yes. The issue is that there's no way to corroborate the rider's claims that there was no previous accident or damage that contributed to the breakage. I've seen pictures of the top tube and it seems consistent with damage--not weld failure.
Who is this bike for? Easy question. It's for the person that owns a tow truck. That would make a bike touring trip doable/perfect! This bike maker should be sent to the shaming circle where they chant MORE GEARS until they pass out.