Exercise and cancer: lessons from NASA research | Dr. Jessica Scott

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What do astronauts and cancer patients have in common?
Jonathan explores this fascinating connection with Dr. Jessica Scott, learning how six decades of NASA research is being used to help the recovery of cancer survivors. New research challenges the traditional notion that you should rest during cancer treatment. Instead, Jessica’s studies into exercise could hold the key to a long and healthy life post-diagnosis.
Dr Jessica Scott started her career at NASA where she spent 7 years designing exercise programs for astronauts in outer space. Now, as the principal investigator at the world-leading Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, she is using her unique skillset in the fight against cancer.
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Timecodes:
00:00 Introduction
01:25 Quickfire questions
02:32 Health challenges for astronauts
08:03 Impact of exercise on astronauts
11:43 NASA’s exercise program
15:37 Transition to cancer research
16:48 Exercise and cancer treatment
18:21 Side effects of cancer treatments
26:20 Studies on the benefit of exercising alongside cancer treatment
29:33 Tailoring exercise to the individual
31:14 Global perspectives on exercising alongside cancer treatment
33:00 Understanding different types of exercise
36:40 Implementing NASA's non-linear exercise training techniques
44:18 The next steps for Jessica’s research
45:59 Episode summary
Studies related to today’s episode:
Cancer Survivorship Statistics from The National Cancer Institute cancercontrol.cancer.gov/ocs/...
Multisystem Toxicity in Cancer: Lessons from NASA’s Countermeasures Program from The National Library of Medicine www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
A randomised trial comparing the effects of moderate versus moderate to high-intensity aerobic training in women with operable breast cancer from The National Library of Medicine www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Effects of exercise countermeasures on multisystem function in long duration spaceflight astronauts from The National Library of Medicine www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Cardiovascular Disease Risk Among Cancer Survivors: The Atherosclerosis Risk In Communities (ARIC) Study from The National Library of Medicine pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35772...
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@ricknicholson5894 Месяц назад

Confession, I haven't watched all of the video however I want to make one comment. I had chemo for high grade lymphoma at age 73 (currently 76) and the side effects were so profound I wouldn't have really been able to do much if any physical exercise. Sometimes walking to the bathroom was an adventure as I was so weak and dizzy that near the end of chemo I had to hold on to things to make my way anywhere in the house. A 150 step day was a big day. Post chemo I have been doing a great deal of walking, including one wretched hill I use to increase cardio. I do this daily and average around 12,000 steps. I do get a cardio workout from walking up the wretched hill, I am overweight. And it took me two years to work up to 12,000 steps. My first foray outside was a drunken staggering walk that was in total 3 short blocks. I had to stop 5 times I was in so much pain, mostly from unused back muscles while I experienced chemo and initial early recovery. Walking a straight line was not possible.

@LivelovelaughEveryday Месяц назад

Thanks for sharing.

@faith5401 Месяц назад

Keep it up Sir !! You will see good results n its worth it. 👍 THE LORD BLESS YOU N KEEP YOU WELL ✝️🙏♥️♥️♥️

@jasoncyrus2025 Месяц назад

Appreciate the insight I have a family member who is experiencing a second round of chemo I shall pass this info as I can relate to the lack of energy and multiple side effects of this treatment from a observers standpoint...thanks

@zaneszful Месяц назад

Thank you for sharing your experience. I will think of you when needing motivation.

@AtheistEve Месяц назад

Chemo can also come with painful peripheral neuropathy, making walking impossible.

@zakkyang6476 Месяц назад

Stage 4 colon cancer here, actively workout for both cardio and strength training every day, vo2max increased from below 30 to 48 at the age of 38. Latest tumor marker is within normal range and all tumor sizes shrink more than half. Chemo has less side effects on me.

@user-zu1ix3yq2w 15 дней назад

Good luck

@asbjorgvanderveer5050 Месяц назад

I can vouch for walking . It helped me leave thoughts of cancer at home. Afternoon walks with my Collie/Shepherd Buddy, distracted me from thinking about the pain in my feet, and tingling hands. Herding and keeping me on our gradually expanding course, along tree-lined urban streets, down winding paths, until gradually, I was strong enough to take the ravine steps all in one go, before resting, taking in the river view. Following my instincts, and my dear Buddy, meant never walking alone, twenty-six years ago.

@AtheistEve 27 дней назад

Happy trails for Buddy 🐾

@NormandHowison Месяц назад

I can definitely agree with this video . When I was treated for leukaemia in 1996/1997 I had a portable rowing machine next to my hospital bed and was rowing every day even when I was on a drip. The only time I could not physically exercise was during my bone marrow transplants. After treatment I restarted exercising as soon as I could exercise again. It hasn’t been easy and it took me a lot of determination to do it. In October 2020 I was diagnosed with incurable bladder cancer. I was given about 2 years to live. I had chemotherapy, radiotherapy, immunotherapy and currently on a trial drug. I never stops exercising and still feel well enough to lead a normal life. For me exercising has always been part of my life since my teenager years. Another benefit of exercising is it help mentally to cope with having cancer.

@joinZOE Месяц назад

This is truly an incredible story Normand, wishing you all the best in your treatment and journey. Thank you for sharing it with us.

@laulaja-7186 Месяц назад

Awesome hospital, letting you have a rowing machine! What country are you in?

@NormandHowison Месяц назад

@@laulaja-7186 I am in the UK in Southampton . The rowing machine was a folding one.

@latinainwpb Месяц назад

Incurable mesns a cure is not known, but many have been cured of sll kinds of illnesses against all odds. I just prayed for you. I hope you don’t mind. 🙏💛

@youonlyliveonce6000 22 дня назад

❤‍🩹

@chs3538 Месяц назад

Honestly I am currently right now that 60 yr old woman with breast cancer. I absolutely agree. I’ve already purchased a step and doing some resistance training coupled with yoga and Pilates. Thanks for this podcast. You have reinforced what I’ve been advised 🙏

@joinZOE Месяц назад

Wishing you all the best in your treatment and journey 💛

@chs3538 Месяц назад

@@joinZOE thank you x 🙏

@Liyaxs Месяц назад

this is soo important. they keep patients in beds all day smdh these hospitals make you sicker with “standard of care” until they catch on im staying away

@AtheistEve Месяц назад

Depends on what you’re in for. From what I’ve seen, hospitals try to get people mobile and back home before they’re ready.

@moij5962 25 дней назад

Blame culture?...instead Q should be, how can I help keeping my family away from the hospital...and if they end up there, might need to assist.💪 Mobile people when they get to the hospital, they continued to move around as much as they can.

@beretaspaas8161 Месяц назад

Thank you for a very interesting dialogue. Am happy to hear the importance of excercise. Having a bowel cancer op this morning, and will get walking later today.

@belwynne1386 Месяц назад

Good luck! You certainly have the right attitude.

@ButterflyJak Месяц назад

I’m currently coming to the end of 6 months of chemo and I’ve continued to run or walk when possible, I’m sure this has made a huge difference to how I’ve gotten through it.

@theresemoore5517 28 дней назад

I had stage 3 breast cancer 11 years ago then stage 4 metastatic breast cancer 6 years ago. I live well I manage my side effects as well as I can I do know without the exercise i do I would be a LOT WORSE. It helps me daily Its not about how long I live Its about how I feel everyday I am here. I walk most days from 30-60 mins. I go to the gym for a varied workout 2-3 times a week I swim in summer

@dianebuckle5093 21 день назад

Long may you continue. Look up sulphoraphane . Broccoli sprouts to kill cancer cells ❤

@nasseernaji3750 Месяц назад

Thank you Zoe’s team, I wish you do more coverage for blood cancer survivors , best diet, exercise…..again, good job.

@joinZOE Месяц назад

Noted, thank you for the feedback!

@MegaGoddessofLove Месяц назад

There's definitely some people you should try and get on your program. Dr Michael Greger and Dr Brooke Goldner. These people have studied nutrition to a "T" and have very valuable information to share.

@naftalibendavid Месяц назад

Wow! Great show.

@lynneward8845 Месяц назад

This is such an important topic, I love that you are reporting this as part of Zoe's concern for overall health, and not just those issues directly related to a Zoe product. As a cancer survivor who unerwent radiation treatment, I am always interested in what I can do to manage possible long term effects. I have exercised regularly for years and the studies you all discussed related to astronauts is fascinating, the link to all of us regular humans is fascinating as well. My biggest take away was the importance of exercise variation and I look forward to hearing the results of the ongoing research.

@eman40y 19 дней назад

I agree with the benefits of Exercise. I was very active before I got diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma and I think that helps me recover better and faster. I did my stem cells transplant after 6 months and that was very hard on my body but I tried to go back to walking even during my 1 month stay at the hospital. I started with a 5 m walk in the hospital and I end up in less than a year to more than 5 km a day. All my doctors were surprised of my good health during these years. Now, I walk at least 3 km a day and in some good days 10 km. I go to the gym almost daily now and that helps a lot in keeping my health at a good level for my age and treatment. Patient with MM need a daily strong meds that have many side effects so with exercise I was able to ease them and have an almost normal life. I hope this helps some of you out there. Keep trying and don’t give up.

@glynwelshkarelian3489 Месяц назад

Thank you for this. there is so much to applaud. First off: the massive benefits, to all humans, of NASA getting to the Moon is beyond measure, and if you deny the achievement then you have a massive health problem. Second: past generations were used to fighting for their lives (quite literally for my parents, who both survived extreme violence during WWII). In the bad old days, when going to the doctor cost a week's wage, being a stubbon b*gger was what kept many people alive. It has long been known that recovery from a stroke depends on determination; and it hearing Jessica Scott give proof that being a right stubborn b*gger is still the key to living longer. On top of that more people will do a difficult thing, like exercise when feeling bad, if there's a goal reward. There is no greater reward than living.

@ankanasingha9101 28 дней назад

This is something amazing I came across. I got hope from this

@shoes123uk8 Месяц назад

Great episode, very informative! 🙏👍

@mariotorres9976 17 дней назад

Saludos cordiales desde Bucaramanga Colombia

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@deborahhoward8043 Месяц назад

Very interesting. I’m curious as to whether cancer patients are informed about the long term side effects?

@holistic-psychotherapist Месяц назад

No, you are not. In my experience they were totally ignored when I mentioned them.

@awangtaiepalat7308 22 дня назад

close your eyes and you can hear Mickey giving the interview.

@XxSatinaxX Месяц назад

Hi, thanks for the amazing podcast! I have just one issue with this episode: somehow I can hear a low frequency buzzing a lot of the times that the two are moving their arms. Maybe that is something that you can check in editing in the future. Keep up the good work! :D

@XxSatinaxX Месяц назад

I think it is every time Jonathan is touching the laptop, maybe laptop and microphone stand are rubbing against each other.

@endgamefond 29 дней назад

I exercise but rarely. maybe once in a week. I feel tired after working in front of my computer. My energy after eating, I use it for working. I wish I had more energy; I try to have snack on some fruits but I still dont have enough energy. So 99% I only exercise on weekends, that's when I dont work.

@krslavin 18 дней назад

I guess Marcel Proust had an inkling... Maybe using centripetal force to simulate gravity is a way to go? Is the accelerating aging reversible after returning to earth?

@peterclayton72 Месяц назад

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@maryellenmartelli6364 Месяц назад

Click the bell button

@wjheald Месяц назад

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@rawdah786 Месяц назад

I’ve subscribed 😅

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Its the bell button

@ervinjackson3261 18 дней назад

Wow

@RadarAustralia Месяц назад

Maybe patients could ask the question: What is the maximum amount of exercise can I do?

@K-Fetti 19 дней назад

Man now interstellar makes a lot of sense m…

@zoeydeu2261 Месяц назад

21:00 21:03

@youonlyliveonce6000 22 дня назад

I have a project for you; “microdosing GLP , not for weight loss , but for reduction in strokes, heart attacks , diabetes , kidney disease , and more “ This is not main stream! PLEASE 🙏

@irenag3994 Месяц назад

It’s ridiculous that the researcher doesn’t address the fact that people go into illness (cancer) with different athleticism. Does current research into exercise during/post cancer lump all patients together, hoping to come up with a recommendation for all???

@lisinbondi1240 Месяц назад

Sorry but that is irrelevant. The point is that any exercise which includes walking as she says is beneficial and accessible to the vast majority irrespective of athleticism.

@user-zu1ix3yq2w 15 дней назад

Exercise cures all problems because insurance doesn't have to pay for it. Sometimes a drug fixes a problem, and sometimes it doesn't but either way it's the treatment when the doctors are financially incentivized to prescribe it (kickbacks, etc.) Unfortunately, people don't exercise enough and are too obese.. which further complicates things.

@irenag3994 13 дней назад

@@lisinbondi1240 My wish for you is to never find out that walking is not accessible to everyone.

@vulcan4d 15 дней назад

Walk, fast and avoid processed and sugery foods. No brainer and not hard. Our food is a business, our medical system is a business, take matters in your own hands!

@woolfel Месяц назад

science provides data for the old saying "use it or loose it"

@Aminu-i3k 18 дней назад

Thank you, Dr. osagh, for your exceptional expertise and skill. Your knowledge and dedication are truly commendable. your herbal medication for cancer worked as prescribed I am grateful to have received treatment from a doctor of your caliber. Thank you for your unwavering commitment to your profession…

@JOHNWAYZ-s5j Месяц назад

@AtheistEve Месяц назад

One thing I’d say is that, when people are on cancer therapies their immune systems take a huge hit. So I’d stay away from public gyms and pools.

@mrlucasftw42 18 дней назад

How is 14 days in space 10 years older? That makes no sense and is ludicrous. They had that guy stay in a space a whole year. He would've been dead several times over.

@theresatomasello1843 14 дней назад

As to how and where the aging occurs does need clarification but to say “ludicrous” when scientific studies have been done according to strict scientific protocol by NASA, nonetheless, is, well, ludicrous.

@Villan794 24 дня назад

Who doesn't know that Exercise is good for you?

@everythingbearausphreak7370 Месяц назад

I feel like I’m watching diary of a ceo, but weirdly different …

@tonyvalente Месяц назад

She seriously needs to update her information. SpaceX can get people to Mars and a little over six months. She said 3 yrs .

@skylineuk1485 26 дней назад

She said the mission to Mars is 3 years long not 3 years to get there as such but she must be reckoning on a long stay or she messed up the maths like you say lol. The general consensus is 6 to 9 months to get there depending on orbital positioning- Hohmann, at least 3 months stay on the Red planet to wait for the best alignment for the return and 6 to 9 months back. Being realistic probably 1.5 years at least but if they wanted to do more on the surface and/or miss the optimal launch window it extends the mission to minimum 3 years which might be what she is talking about. Obviously the stay is not zero G so I’m sure running about in a space suit on the 0.38g planet will do some good as exercise lol.