Exercise Scientist Critiques Dorian Yates' HIGH INTENSITY Training 

You had a video glamorising Brad Shoenfeld, a "scientist" who studies volume and HIT failure training while not even knowing what true failure is... Look up his failure videos. It's pathetic. Now you're criticizing Dorian Yates/ HIT lol. Why should this video have any credibility?

Next video look at Nicholas Meregali's training as he recently posted his lifting.

If you lift 2x per week... you left too much in the tank the first time.

oi oi bruv fish an chips moit innit!!!

@@yipperdeyip His criticisms were very mild, though. It was more of a fanboy vid, really lol.

That's why they called him "The Shadow"

Train, showed up, win, repeat.

It worked. Lol. How many Olympias did he win?

That just had a lot to do with him being from England. Until very recently bodybuilders not based on North America just didn't get much exposure.

Dorian breaks Chris Cormier in this video, its epic: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iJt_AJ80N_I.html

8 day weeks are goated for training

lmaooooooooooo I just read that post

I've always just done rolling weeks depending on what my split needed. Usually it ended up a "8 day week" with something like gym, gym, gym, rest, gym, gym, gym, rest. 7 is just such an odd number to work with.

"3.5 days a week? What do you do, a half workout or something? lol"

Not as good as the argument that 45 lb plates aren't 45 lbs because of the hole in the middle.

Dorian's ability to transition to a health life post-bodybuilding may be one of his most impressive qualities. He's managed to stay in shape, age well and maintain mobility, meanwhile most of his contemporaries either died tragically young or developed terrible joint issues.

That's crazy, I can't imagine the feeling and the next training session you must've had!

@@JordaanM there’s a youtube video where he’s interviewed about steroid use and he details how he cycled properly rather than just smashing it and how guys today are taking multiples of what he used. It’s interesting viewing.

LOL duh... Dorian was at his peak 260lbs ripped to the bone, Mr o winners level quality of muscle... of course hes going to make you look small... these guys are freaks of nature and this is there full time job at the highest level

If 99.9999% of the population stood next to Dorian, Ronnie, Phil etc.. there going to make them look like children

At first i thought he used a Smith machine. Then he racked the bar :D

@@fabianhubner5007 hahaha even his breathing sounded like a chain moving up and down a frame

Chuck Norris once incline benched even smoother than that and a man named Mr. Smith paid Chuck to let him call his machine the "Smith Machine" and not the "Norris Machine".....

​@@Simon-talks Nice try.

that was exactly what went through my mind when i saw that , perfect pressing.

Leroy

Never skipped vocal day!

Leroy is the best workout partner of all time

Dude was a LEGEND

NASTY CHRISTMAS TREES! IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME, C'MON!!!

Yes!

Yes! And if he’s doing Tom Platz, then let’s go with Lee Priest (before the tattoos 😁)

I think there is a video regarding platz and the low volume training. If i remember correctly it goes something like this: if muscle gain and hyperthrophy is the goal: train more frequently, and more than one or two working sets..

Agreed

Mostly he’s full of shit and gear

That doesn't sound like anyone from Birmingham who I've ever met! 😆

Sounds more like a scouser

It's not a brummie accent. It's not even the piss poor imitation of a brummie accent that we hear in Peaky Blinders. BTW, every, but every, hard man in Britain sewed a razor blade in the peak of his cap. Scottish soldiers used to sew them in their glengarries.

That is basically doing scientific experiment on one self. I have found the same things to be true.

So you say that reducing volume helps ​@@joojotin

Welcome to HIT working out once a week and rest for 7 days.

@@Vrory77 That doesnt define HIT tho. I consider my program HIT but train fullbody every other day.

He upped the dosage to past plateaus. The training had very little to do with it.

Rightly so. He knew he wasn't as genetically gifted as some of the other pros at the time. Needed every advantage he could get.

@@AScaryOrange123 bullshit all of them were genetically gifted competing with each other their genetic potential was super close barely any difference between em.

"Come On Diesel, Let's Get Busy!!"

@@QuartzTech He doesn't mean in size, He mean insertions and bone structure.

@@asdfgasdfgasdfgq i didnt say size

I saw them all at muscle beach & Marina athletic club in 1994-6 and it was wild. I was working out hard and given respect and then these huge monsters would walk up and I’d be in awe. (Update: Like, mouth hung open, Lee Haney or Yates or somebody mind-blowing like that just getting a workout in or doing a top photo shoot. I’m flashing back now!)

Meet many of them in Cleveland at a NPC shows. Got to talk to him and others and got a signed photo. He was the guest poser, was just huge beyond your imagination. I believe his weigh was 280. But just huge.

You guys are damn lucky. I’m 30 and was just a baby when these legends were competing. I wish I could have seen them in person. It must have been breathtaking.

@@giovanir69 sorry yeah you missed a hell of an era. I started training back in 1969. I started buying and collecting magazines from the 70-80& 90s I had, Mr America. Muscle Builder, Strength & Health. Muscle Mag. MD-Muscle Development, Flex, Iron Man, so many. I still have a collection from 1989 about 2015 then most if not all stopped being printed. Some of the greatest photos and training routines ever printed. Unfortunately now the past. It’s all You-Tube stuff just not the same anymore!

"SHOW DEM WHY YOU"RE NUMBER ONE!"

What a training partner to have.

Squiiize!!

Exactly just finished the 6 weeks protocol

Let's get nasty!

"size of an industrial refrigerator" and "dildo curls" were great 💀

Thanks for telling us the story he has already told us

I’m nitpicking now, but I believe he’s said he had girlfriends back then? So not quite like a monk.

@@davidiglesias9549 why didnt you just say you Hate White people.

What is meaning of success? How do you know when you have achieved success??

What's that got to do with this?...

This

It would also be awesome if he reviewed Kevin Levrone.

Ronnie Coleman review... as Ronnie Coleman.

MORE!!!! KILL ME!!!!

Branch Warren review

I am not Dorian Yates and this is purely anecdotal I have also blown up from going from 5 to 4 days a week. It's the biggest single difference maker I've ever tried. I've also put about 12kg on my working sets for bench press in three months. Would recommend it for absolutely anyone who is 2+ years in the gym.

Nope. He blew up because he took more drugs at that point.

​@@rowananderson8318Sure...sure...😂

@@Rob-qn6odnope

@@sirjerryson4349 Yep. Facts don't care about your feelings.

I've met Dorian and this is what he was saying all the time. The more advanced you are the more you need to recover. Your cns doesn't increase but it gets used just a bit

Exactly. But you have gymbros going "Dorian trained like this and he's the GOAT so fuck your evidence-based training" and they're rowing like less than half of what Dorian is. Powerlifters for decades have known that bigger, stronger lifters do way less volume than smaller ones, not because they want to do less, but because they can't or they'll die. Somehow this is still a mystery for hypertrophy guys.

​@@MicheldiedWeightlifters too. Chinese protocol is ..... women train more frequently than men, and small men more frequently than large ones.

Women train less than men for a whole different reason, get a man and a woman with identical genetics (in theory) and experience/weights, she recovers faster, estrogen does that ​@@dp70939

Also...the pro bodybuilder's definition of muscular failure (maybe powerlifters and strongmen too) may be a lot different compared to a person who pursues lifting weights as a past time. I never even thought that it'd be possible to have your gym shirt drenched in sweat from merely lifting weights (unless training for endurance) but it somehow is a thing. Twist that T-shirt which is drenched and somehow sweat just pours out of them

aura what the fuck

Hell Yeah

@@RePaperBag New type of brainrot, you get used to it

@@RePaperBag +10000 aura skibbidy ong no cap

We’re not doing that here. Gtfoh

All he does is name drop other successful people to get clicks to sell ad space while his own physique is mid. He puts out a critiquing Sam Sulek video every week.

I had the exact same experience and I’m not at all a bodybuilder, just a 37 year old dude who took a long break from working out. I’m getting back into shape and I’ve started owning hypertrophy training and am getting the best, quickest results for me that I’ve ever gotten. Thanks dr Mike! I recommend this channel to everyone.

​@@michaelshine6060you'd get it without watching him lol. He's changed nothing in body-building. It's just marketing.

@@libertarianpunk8558 grow up

​​​@@James-vv9dp ah yes, the infallible unquestionable big-brained Dr Mike, aka the White Yakub of fitness! Even 6x Olympian Dorian Yates should know his role in the presence of Dr Mike!

That's what Bruce Lee recommended to only use what works for you and leave out what doesn't work

He is a trailblazer but Ronnie is the goat. Of course we talking about something very subjective

Your opinion < modern science. Nice try though idiot.

@@keithlilly6242ronnie is not goat because he trained super heavy like an idiot and became disabled at old age. I would say the goat is Either lee haney or Dorian.

@@Historian4real the Real Goat is still Schwarzenegger

​@@Historian4real tbf, the HIT training Dorian did literally ended his career to the point he had to stop weight training entirely.

😂😂😂😂

Mike's so arrogant. He criticized Colemans workouts and also said if he had trained properly, he'd be bigger and have won more. Like ronnie is the goat dude. There's so many flaws with science backed training and the studies they conduct. Certainly they have their place but for this dude whose 5'5 on tons of peds apparently the most knowledgeable guy in the world to insinuate that guys like Yates, Coleman, and LeBron James don't know how to train is so egomanical

😂😂😂😂😂 was waiting for that - you nailed it straight !!

​​@@sammyttheg412are you okay? They arent gods they're human, Mike always says that these guys are WAYYY better than him but could be better, thinking that theyre infallible is crazy. Edit, nvm youve been commenting on mikes videos for a while now saying the same shit because you have nothing better to do 🤣

​@@sammyttheg412 take a chill pill, there is no way to know that what Mike is saying is true or false, we cant re-run the Ronnie Coleman experiment in a different universe. So you're just as "arrogant" for saying he's full of shit. This is just bullshitting on youtube. Who cares.

I like his views on WW2. Truly Based historian.

HIT works... most don't do it correctly

What? It’s been my best program to follow

@@steveb6718 Though also keep in mind that there's so much variation between people. Like in some studies, people with similar backgrounds had diff reactions to diff amounts of volume. Some did just as well with low volume, while others needed higher volume. Plus, how strong is someone, how long have they trained, how physically large are their muscles, how well are other parts of their recovery like sleep, are they on gear, etc. Like Dr. Mike says here, for someone who is huge already their biggest muscles maybe can be trained 1 or 2 days a week, but smaller muscles may be a diff story, and also potentially diff for smaller/weaker people. And some people just plain recover better than others do. IMO, the best thing is just being open to trying diff techniques and adjusting as needed.

@@ShawnFumo but, since 99.9% of people are not professional athletes, and are not going to run multiple compounds/gear at the same time, train for fun and enjoy it and get results as fast as possible... so, if 1 set can do it, why bother with 3 or 6? if 1 set gets you 90+% of all the gains, why bother with more? you're not becoming Mr O and not running trent/dbol/deca/anavar/winstrol etc... Dr Mike runs loads of gear and with all his science, loaded up on the covid vaccine, so, as studies have shown us, you can prove anything with the right money backing you

Thanks to Mike the Goat Mentzer. Mentzer got dorian out of a 2 year plateau

Shut it, weeb

Help you look like roast beef for the competition.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-03p5JZ4ViIA.htmlsi=T_UpBK-jPcOigc07

If that link gets deleted, type in dusty hanshaw dc training

There are audios of D Mike in soundcloud?

@@kasperisaukkonen doriyan yates, idk why someone would put dr mike in a song or edit

@@seam13ss :(

​@@seam13sscry

Because hes being paid not to. The entire youtube algorithm is geared against Mike . Mike is the ultimate counter to an industry that wants all tour time and money. Mike is the only Goat IMO. He took arthurs work and applied to to Himself and other monsters like Dorian.

A bit cringe to say but, the intro give me goosebumps.

If only you had no picture and no posts lol

He hut fsilire, maybes it more weight then previous week, and the mans not in a will chair like ronnie, on resting in protein like rich Pianna

Haha been there. Safety bars have saved me from Dr Mikes jokes at least a couple of times.

I suspect that Mentzer was so tied up in his theory that it slowed his adaptation into what worked. Yates wasn’t defending a theory so much as training like a madman.

@@steelmongoose4956 From what I've seen on youtube, it seems Dorian incorporated some of Mentzer's training concepts.

@@MrLokky87 Yeah, there was a definite influence. Yates just took the intensity to another level of insanity.

​​@@steelmongoose4956No, Yates took it to a next level of SANITY. Meaning, he took the best of Mentzer and adapted it to his own optimal program. Mentzer recommended so many rest days after a workout that you'd only hit each part once every two weeks depending on your split. Usually 1-2 days per week, depending on which video you see because he changed his ideals over the years, which is understandable. But the older he got, the more rest days he added after a workout. Yates did it 4 days a week basically. So, he still got decent volume. Most of Yates videos I've seen actually look a bit LESS in intensity than the videos I've seen of Mentzer training someone. Not a lot less, but enough that you'd recognize it. Yates did not seem to do as many forced reps, static holds, negatives. He did them, just a bit less than Mentzer trained people on

I am 50 and only do a few exercises per muscle and do one set per exercise and I am growing in strength and size and I am a experienced lifter. Some People would say how can you get gains doing and I think answer is simple it's the intensity I use. I am growing more than when I did about 4 sets per exercise doing each body part twice a week yes I did look very toned but wasn't growing. I grew more when I was training less. Doing less sets for me works better maybe when I thought I was a hard gainer I was just over training.

I started lifting weights at 36 y/o. At that age most men would say your natural T is fairly low. I have gone from 73 kg to 97 kg in three years using high volume training.

Arnold trained 2-2,5 hours 6 days per week according to Jerry Branium

He did talk about that...

He literally talked about exactly that at the end of the video. You must've been in a rush to comment before watching the entire video.

You want the man to ruin his kidneys?

Some vegan protein powder and duck eggs would've done good too.

Lots of corruption in the "subjective" judging and operation of the Olympia. As with all things, follow the money. Dorian was awesome but should he have won all those years? Maybe or maybe not. We are just mere morals to be judging 😅😅

A lot ppl have said seeing him in the flesh is completely different from footage/pics

@@dan1elsutton Like more or less impressive?

@@dan1elsutton yes, seeing any of those guys in person is very different

@@SweepTheLeg2023 impressive