Explaining How Optimus Prime Survived The Fall of Cybertron 

Its simple, he escaped because he is Optimus Prime

Despite how much I loved the Bumblebee movie, I was always bothered by the fact that they never explained it. Thank you Theorymus!

Taking on 46 Decepticons, winning, and escaping. Prime is literally that one teammate who hard carries you every match

My personal theory: Metroplex saved him and took him to another nearby autobot base

I still can't get over how perfect Prime's design is in Bee's movie, like daaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

Never noticed at 2:55 until now that you can hear how afraid drop kick and shatter are in their voice especially when their voice quivers when they realize Optimus prime is coming to earth.

Considering before the flashback is over we can see Prime strike that iconic Bayverse pose, it's safe to assume most seekers were put offline by Prime's murderous survival instinct

A moment in the film I wished we had a deleted scene for the MOST. Always wondered what strategy he used to get away. I’d like to think he fought some off, got overpowered, then some remaining Autobots ran in to reinforce, allowing him to drive off. Those couldn’t be 100% of the Autobot force that evacuated. And if some stayed behind, their first instinct would be to protect their leader. Allowing him to proceed with the bigger mission to help establish the new base on Earth. 💙❤️👀🤔🎥

Optimus is just built different, That’s why he is a Prime!

I like to think he flew out of there, because shatter and dropkick would be dead if they tried to fight optimus

I see this as a great opportunity to kill two birds with one stone here. Cullen has mentioned he wants to do a standalone Optimus Prime film. Fans want to know how Optimus escaped Cybertron. Give us a film set almost entirely on Cybertron showing us what all he had to do to survive. This could also tie in and show fans a little more info on why Prime seemed so broody and melancholy in Rise of the Beasts (yes they gave us an explanation, but this could show more to us other than just homesickness). Peter Cullen in sadly not getting any younger, and even though it's been nearly five years between movies, we're still only two in so far. Give fans that perspective movie while also letting the Legend himself get his wish.

46 Decepticons vs One True Prime. I couldn’t have respected Prime more for this

This was an Absolutely Amazing Theory for how Optimus Prime escaped from Cybertron.

I only just realized that Shatter + Dropkick were also in the scene (0:05)

Prime killed every enemy while screaming "I'll take you all on!" like he did in revenge of the fallen chills literal chills just thinking about it (dual energon blades all the way)

I don’t think you noticed but at 4:39 you see other escape pods which are too far to be from the same platform.

I was expecting a how it should have ended reference when optimus distract the deceptions and then disguise himself as one

Simply put.... He fought his way out. What a legend.

I was always curious how prime survived

Maybe one day, we'll *_FINALLY_* get an official answer... Probably not though. 🤣

He escaped because he’s Optimus Prime, simple as that.

It would be awesome if we see Omega Supreme in live action.

Wonderful explaining. You did amazing counting the Decepticons in that flashback scene of Bumblebee.

Something interesting I discovered in Bumblebee. There are 13 Autobots in the movie. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Ironhide, Brawn, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack and 5 others that you glance but are nearly impossible to tell who they are.

If I’m ever having a bad day and Theorymus uploads, then everything will be just a bit better :)

Thank you for explaining this, I’ve always wondered this for so long, now my thoughts are put to rest

Thank you for making this video because this has been on my mind for a very long time

It would've been cool if Megatron was present during the fall of Cybertron.

I really do hope we get to see the rest of the transformers in the sequel

Another great video bro good to see the channel doing well as I haven’t watched it in a while

Prime: "Wait!" Decepticons: "What?" Prime: "Look there!" Decepticons: "Where?!" Prime: "Bye-bye!"

What I wanna know, is what the heck happened to Sam Witickey after Dark Of The Moon! But still, thank you for breaking this down for me to understand how he escaped, your my favorite Transformers YT channel

I personally think Optimus prime fought as much as he could, but lost the fight and got captured. But eventually he escaped sometime after and fled to earth

Ngl, that intro is epic, no joke

Today is my first day of school so I couldn't watch this when it popped up, but now it's lunch time and I can watch this

In my headcanon Optimus didn't have any extra weapons on him at the time and boxed his way through all 46 Deceptions

I was wondering that since I watched it. Bit of a shame he couldn't retrieve his ion blaster

I always wondered this, thanks for the explaination!

Despite this ROTB Optimus and Bayverse Optimus are different, the two have one thing in common... that being "Prime Rage", the one thing we saw in Dark of the Moon...

Decepticons: We have you surrounded! Optimus Prime: All I’m surrounded by is fear, and dead men.

I like to believe that right as the scene ends the Matrix does some super saiyan type shit and paralyses all the decepticons around him

Your theory sounds right. It sounds right because when Bumblebee was in space, we can see more pods but in different locations, not in the same area where Bumblebee is

Prime be like: “46 of you, 1 of me…I like those odds.”

Idk if someone already commented this before. But if there’s gonna be a what if scenario. What if in 2007 Transformers if Arcee did get to be part of the movie without being cut and remade in the second movie as Arcee twins? How would her role be like if a way of saving Jazz’s life from Megatron or what? I wondered if the writers did made a script about it but cut it and rewrite it?

ngl, wish they couldve provided more info on how he managed to escape. My theory is that 1) Optimus was indeed captured and sent to Kaon as per Megatron's request, my idea of how he escaped is by taking reference of the Kaon Prison chapter in the War for Cybertron game. He possibly escaped Cybertron by either sabotaging/destroying a Decepticon outpost within Kaon and took an escape pod to cover his getaway. A possible reason that Shatter and Dropkick seem afraid of Optimus coming to Earth is due to their belief that he escaped Kaon and took down an outpost all by himself. 2) He escaped Kaon then proceeded to link up to Iacon or one of the Autobot bases

Great vid. Something that bothered me after watching Rise of the beasts is why in the name of primus did they change wheeljack sooooo bad. I honestly forgot he had a brief appearance in bumblebee until seeing him in this vid and i remembered he had his G-1 form so like the heck?!

Weren’t Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Thrust, and Blitzwing charging at Optimus while having to the Decepticons?

Thank you for explaining this, I’ve always wondered this originally, I just thought “he’s Optimus the freaking prime”

Now do a theory about why wheel jack change his name and appearance

HISHE talked about this topic in their Bumblebee video pretty funny too🤣😭

I made a short fan film explaining my own opinion on how it happened. I had it stated he didn’t win that battle and was captured. He later escaped and took a personal-secret escape pod

Looks like Skywarp and Thundercracker are in the frame with Soundwave, Shockwave, and Ravage but they could just be generic seekers that look like them. I just really want a movie with G1 styles where we get all of the Decepticons and Autobots we grew up with in the first season of G1

This Was An Amazing Video! This was a Question I've Always Wondered and Just Imagining Optimus using his Sword and Hand Cannon Fighting Against 64 Decepticons

at 0:18 you can see Shatter and Dropkick at Optimus back

I think what happened is that Optimus was properly beating everyone who rushed him, so soundwave calls for a retreat and shatter and drop kick escape. Optimus doesn’t pursue fearing that they will reach earth so he too tries to find a way to get to earth before them.

This would be a great prequel movie to bumble bee and actually show Megatron and people will finally know it’s a reboot since he wouldn’t be frozen

My theory is there is another autobot who still in Cybertron when Optimus is surrounded by decepticons (i personally think Metroplex/Omega Supreme help him) and i think there are some autobots who sacrifice themself to made Optimus escape Cybertron

You can also see in the bumblebee movie in that one shot of bumblebee escaping, multiple other pods are exiting the planet so that further straightens the old theory

Nice video as always Theorymus!

It would be interesting to ponder about. In my head, Optimus most likely didn't manhandle 40+ Decepticons then and there. He must've gone to Decepticon jail first. He would get a cell for himself, and when he gets put on death row, he outmaneuvers his executioners and coordinates a long and sneaky escape with what Autobots he could find. Realizing his goons are not good enough to fight Optimus, Megatron stepped in and dueled the Prime. Optimus was losing, and he quickly secured a Decepticon transport together with what Autobots he was able to rescue. The prisoners fled Cybertron but scattered, and many of them died along the journey. Then Optimus crashlanded onto the Earth and tried to find as many fellow Autobots as he could to prepare for Megatron's probably-inevitable arrival. Dunno, I'm a big WFC/FOC fan (you can see that my route blends together the Kaon Prison mission and the Great Exodus), but I think it fits.

2:24 the scourge scene was personal af

Good video man

Considering we can see presumably pods fly from multiple points of origin, it’s reasonable to assume there were more pod bays with leftover pods or unused as that front got wiped out

I cannot belive you have come this far Keep up the good work Theorymus

Nice Theory man

I always thought about how Optimus prime survived, yet I would have never guessed that

"Prime is coming here" oh he is so shocked and and how his voice quivers 😂😂

Is this your first dedicated video for a theory on this new trilogy? Or am I missing something? This will be another banger video!

I hope a new movie can breifly go back to this scene, it would be neat if Elita One and the other autobots saved one last escape pod for him or something to explain how he's on Earth with the others but she seemingly isnt.

I bet Optimus beat up many Decepticons, killed some (the nameless Seekers, ofc), & failed against some, like Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, etc, made an opening, then transformed, drove off to another Autobot base, then escaped in a pod to Earth. Fast forward a tiny bit to the ending of BBM, 7 yrs later in RotB, & now we're waiting for whats next for the 3rd movie! & GREAT vid Theorymus!! Loved it! Keep up the great work!! Thx for this VERY in-depth & amazing vid! 'Til all are One!! & Theorymus, could you do a theory on if Optimus has the Matrix of Leadership in this new rebooted continuity (BBM & RotB, ofc), I think he does cuz it'd makes sense & I could easily imagine him getting it at some point before BBM's Cybertron scene. & Considering that the Great War is implied to have started not too long ago cuz of the fact the Decepticons call the Autobots a resistance & the Autobots call themselves a resistance, too, so it would just make sense for the War to start abt 1 millon yrs, more or less, before BBM's Cybertron scene, instead of abt 4 or more million yrs. & Optimus could've easily gotten the Matrix at some point between the beginning of the War & BBM's Cybertron scene. & I think it'd be really cool for Optimus to already have had the Matrix for a little while & uses it to defeat Unicron in TF4/last movie in RotB's Unicron Trilogy. Mainly considering the fact that the Matrix is the only thing that can stop Unicron in G1 & probably other continuities as well! It'd be cool for you too make a vid abt it! Like if you agree!

I was honestly suspecting him to become corrupted to becoming Nemesis Prime to be a sleeper agent or something until they actually showed how he survived when I first saw how surrounded he was. But then obviously if Megatron is still on the planet he might wanna keep him alive as a prisoner or kill him personally. So that made my old suspicions crumble.

My personal headcanon: He had "Elton John - I'm Still Standing" playing full-blast on his systems.

I just assumed he got captured, but then escaped, cuz as beast as movie optimus always is, I don't believe he can take on 50 decepticons at the same time

Ty for telling me I got so confused during that part

I watch your video like 5 times don’t know why

Megatron: how did you fight off nearly 50 deceptions while cybertron had fallen!? Optimus: it's simply really *coughs* I'm just better than you

Rebot prime : I am friendly and like the og Bay prime : give me your face

Have you seen the How It Should Have Ended for Bumblebee? In that hilarious video Bumblebee askes Prime about it after he meats up with him and Optimus tells the story. He was surrounded when he used a "look over there" distraction and took cover. Than while hiding he sees the corpse of a Decepticon and wears the pieces. He than directs the Decepticons away while in disguise and escapes. It's hilarious, you should totally watch it 😂

Great explanation and thanks for this awesome theory Theorymus

i dont know if this was already a theory but when bumbleebee gets the ability to bring himself back together. It would make sense if that was jazz's magnetic ability , just added to bumbleebee

Cool video! I really enjoyed!😃

I was also about to say something about Shatter and Dropkick. I was wondering how did they know about Primes Escapee. I didn’t see them in the shot. But was Blitzwing had to have been there to because B was escaping as prime was surrounded by the cons.

All he had to do was summon his trailer and hide in it.Guarantee no one would figure out where he went.

Weridly aburpt, but makes sense, good video man

4:24 "how are you going to get there in time!?" "Ill be there! Ill be there!" 54 seconds later. "Im going! Im going!" Or its just the 1st 3.

Thank you for these videos Theorymus, I love you!!!❤❤❤❤

It's really Simple, Theorymus. Optimus has the Touch.

2:30 actually his ion blaster was supposed to appear in transformers rise of the beast sadly and appeared in the deleted scenes It appeared on his truck mode plus I have three more things to back it up the toys the first one the transformers ROTB mainline voyager class Optimus prime also the transformers ROTB Robeson RC Optimus prime He had all of his weapons that appeared in the movie plus his classic ion blaster and there is a new coming role play model TF ROTB Optimus prime T7 ion blaster coming out so it still counts It’s still with him .

You know, I like to imagine right before Optimus gets surrounded by the Decepticons he does something crazy, finds an escape pod and escapes.

Dude I was so excited when you uploaded

Looking like a true surviver.

In my headcanon, the Wreckers (Kup, Impactor, Springer, Broadside, Rack'Ruin, Whirl, Sandstorm) pulled up, and got him and some leftover bots from the capitol (Iacon, and where Megs probably was). That way, it could open up to a Bad Batch styled Wreckers tv show, with maybe a rewritten last stand of the wreckers as an ending.

I honestly don't think that an explanation is needed. As much as it would be cool to see and know how Optimus Prime managed to escape, it's Optimus Prime, the one transformer on the side of autobots that can go toe to toe with the Decepticon leader Megatron. There's no doubt that Optimus Prime would escape alive, even against the likes of Soundwave and Shockwave.

A problem I've had with a lot of transformers iterations is they don't seem to get scale or logistics right. They don't seem to understand how big planets are, how large the population of Cybertron must be, how vast space is, how long tens or hundreds of millions of years is, etc etc. Point is there should have been hundreds or thousands of ships on or leaving Cybertron, at the time and to this day, not just one big one like in Bumblebee or Fall of Cybertron.

Ok before the video starts I already know the answer He played I'm still standing

I've been watching your vids for 5 months

Optimus was probably badly damaged after taking on all of them, but c'mon, it's Optimus. The fact that they had to gang up against him says a lot about his reputation as a "Legendary warrior of Cybertron" (according to Primal). Plus, admit it, a bloodlusted and angry Optimus is more scarier than Megatron and Shockwave combined.

Theorymus: Whatever prime had to in that fight had to be crazy Me: *Remembers Bayformers prime*

Very interesting. One thing that I’ve been wondering tho is…Why is Optimus against trusting humans in rise of the beasts? It can’t be because of what happened in the bayverse (because this is a new contentednety) so, what happened? Kid humans attack him like they did with bumblebee?

i didnt knew Dropkick and Shatter were behind prime i just realized when he pointed it out