Explaining Sephiroth's Spectacular Hitboxes (Smash Ultimate) 

Just letting people know I made a little mistake when talking about the Down-b hitbox at 10:25. The "Normal version" version is actually notably smaller, and both those hitboxes I showed are for the successful counter. For some reason there are two almost identical versions of them. If you want to see the real visual you can view it here: ultimateframedata.com/sephiroth.php. Sorry about the info in the video not being correct.

Incredibly amused by the fact that Sephiroth has the same weight as Kirby, and there is absolutely no explanation for this other than ‘because he would have been unstoppable otherwise’.

This character was definitely something I never knew I needed

Fun fact: The amount of orbs that side b spawns is actually derivative of the amount of damage it deals. I reflected a fully charged side b once and Sephiroth got all 5 orbs around him

“it wouldn’t be a final fantasy character without !”

7:07 What a usual and non-edited shape for an arrow on Sephiroth's up-special

One thing I was hoping you would mention is that the up smash has an unfortunate tendency of missing characters who low profile.

The sliding down tilt should be dubbed the "DLC down tilt" since Joker, Hero, Min Min, Sephiroth, and kind of Banjo have it, which is at least half of the DLC characters as of now.

5:55 why does Sephiroth look like he just had to ask "Why is it sticky?"

I still can't get over the fact that Sephiroth (a literal angel), weighs the same as a small pink puff ball, and an electric mouse.

The good ol’ “dlc d-tilt”

i REALLY love the animation for him at 7:21. Its such a small detail but the way he grips his blade and re-grips its looks so clean.

When you talk about down air, don't you mean down aerith?

PKBeats tested out His winged form in both normal battle and in training mode. It actually does work the same in both modes. The reason it doesn't seem to work correctly is because apparently Training mode counts the CPU stocks and doesn't reset the stock count until you go back to the character select screen, resetting position does not cause the stock count to reset.

This is cool and all but I *NEED* King K. Rool's Klunky hitboxes, you cannot run from me forever, getting visuals to figure out why BAir and Up Tilt just whiffs at times will make me happy

His counter acts like a projectile, I was able to block it with young link’s shield

This video is false. You say it covers the whole sword but if you look closely, a few inches of the tip aren't covered which greatly hurts sephy's range. Cant believe this inaccuracy. Please Sakurai fix this character.

I'm really happy we finally got another kingdom hearts rep.

Can we mention that Octoslash has a swing speed of 1 swing per two frames (without hit--pause for effect ingame), so this implies that Sephiroth's octoslash can swing 30 times PER SECOND?! That's faster than General Grievous's swing speed of 20 times per second, and he has 4 fucking swords that have little to no weight!

A surprising thing to add about Sephiroth's counter is that it can be reflected. This is most notable in the matchup against Pit/Dark Pit due to their side specials being attacks you would want to counter, but can't since they're also reflectors for some reason.

7:08 unexpected spontaneous shanna fire emblem

Wow, a dlc character that doesn’t have any useless hitboxes. That’s pretty crazy

11:47 I kinda like how they gave the move these extra hitboxes just so he can hit opponents above him while striking an awesome pose.

Something you didn’t mention: his counter is also a projectile, meaning it can be reflected. So...don’t counter MinMin up-smash or something similar.

I'm gonna be honest, I expected up smash to have some really egregious hitbox interpolation due to it being such a huge sword being swung so fast. I'm pleasantly surprised it doesn't have the same problem as Ganondorf's forward smash. Poor prince of darkness.

I want to think that the opponent in the move demonstration being red Zelda was an intentional choice and not a coincidence. EDIT: 8:00 oh no

Another drawback of his counter is it’s nature as a projectile, meaning any reflects can reverse it onto Sephiroth, such as min min’s up smash

at 7:07 why does Shanna from fe6 appear

I need someone to make a meme out of that Cat in the Hat scene where he has a baseball bat and is about to whack a child with it. Except the Cat in the Hat is Sephiroth, the baseball bat is the sword, and the child is Galeem.

3:37 Ah yes Joker and Min Min are my favorite Final Fantasy VII characters

I was excited to see these, thanks!!

Dude, sometimes I'm baffled by how some of my attacks miss tbh. Obviously I just need to get better, but the visuals definitely make it seem like an attack will hit.

Imagine if they add a monster hunter with all 14 weapons, with each weapon changing your tilts, smashes, and aerials, and being toggled on the Character select screen like Pokémon trainer

Nintendo: ok sakurai, what is the next character for super smash brothers Sakurai: Sepheroth! Nintendo: nooo you can’t do that! There are already two long range dlcs Sakurai: haha long range go brrrrrr

are we going to talk about how up tilt just straight up teleports the opponent to the tip of your sword.

This game is really pushing the boundaries when it comes to making movesets (in a good way)

There’s a really stupid combo with Sephiroth I’ve found where you can d-tilt and if you hit it on the tail end of the move you, from what I’ve done, combo into up-tilt. It’s - not very practical, and not even very consistent, but I love how even the most evil and terrifying characters can have some dumb stuff to do with him.

I love how to beat the counter you can time an attack to hit between counter detection and the attack

My man! Was waiting to see something like this, I always enjoy these kinda videos from you

From what I have gathered/read, Sephi's Winged Form goes off the same equation as Aura, and only triggers once his "Aura" would mette out 125% increase (Lucario's absolute cap being ~200% means this is a little over halfway Aura), once activated it only turns off once Sephi dies, or he KO's an opponent and the new presenting Aura equation puts him below the threshold to activate/maintain the wing.

Damage dealt multipliers include Ink and 1v1 - short hop does indeed affect base damage (false info at 2:40)

PKbeats does a really comprehensive breakdown of his wing mechanic in his useless smash facts video! I highly recommend you give the video a watch!

Sephiroth has the same weight as fricking Kirby and I love that!

4:40 “clean and simple” I see what you did there *insert nightcore version of Simple and Clean from Kingdom Hearts used for the Big Gay Dance*

11:41 Same color as the Kirbies Sakurai showed the range with in the reveal trailer. Very clever, Zeckemyro.

something i always found strange about seph's down B is that IF scintilla gets broken, he's for some unknown reason.. completely invincible during the stagger. to the point ike's eruption, which is one of the few moves that actually reach seph during that time, doesn't hit

I love the icon. I play a lot of MtG, so game respects game. I loved the video; keep up the good work!

Should have been Sephiroth's Sexy Hitboxes smh

Nintendo: Sakurai you need to stop adding hitboxes, you are reaching the limit!! Sakurai: BUT WE NEED MORE!!!

Regarding One Wing Mode/OWM disappearing, it typically disappears (in singles) when Sephiroth takes a stock and has dealt 65% or more, or he dies. Info courtesy of Sethlon This is why sometimes you get a kill with the wing, and it persists through your next stock before disappearing at seemingly random

5:40 what is he grabbing with?! His knees?! - Angry Sephiroth Main

I can't believe you put Zelda ~Aerith~ on the chopping block here. Very cruel. *Iconic* But cruel.

I love the FFVI Terra music in the background.

(1:10) Remember that training mode is a team battle on time, set to infinite, and with team attack off. You sure the wing doesn't behave the same as in a versus match of this kind? Also remember to never change the percentage in training mode, since that might affect the variables.

was waiting for it merry christmas

I'd have loved to see how these big sweeping hitboxes were interpolated between frames. Regardless lovely work as usual

i love the ff6 music in the background. it really takes me back to when i first played that

with characters that have this dynamic hitboxes I think it would be neat to see all of them "added" up to see just exactly how much ground the move covers

The only question I have left is how does shadow flare determine the knockback angle? It seems to always send the opponent towards the blast zone. Does it choose to send the opponent away from Sephiroth? Or just towards the nearest blast zone?

The down tilt is the Standardized SOLDIER Slide Maneuver (SSSM) from now on in my mind.

Sweet spots for sephiroth work like stabbing attacks tipper, slashing attacks middle of the sword I realized that as soon as he came out

fun fact: the amount of shadow orb you get is actualy depending on how much damage the original hit does, as seen when it gets reflected you'll get more orbs on yourself

The way wing works to leave after getting a ko is when someone dies, the threshold of wing changes, and if your percent isn't in the threshold change damage percent, it goes away

7:08 I caught that lol

Hey I’m a big fan of this series and I think it’d be really cool if you could cover Kirby’s transformation’s hitboxes in your videos. Keep up the good work!

You should do Sephiroth next!

Something important you missed is that his down-B is a projectile, and can be reflected - I love inhaling it as Dedede, always very funny

Sephiroth is actually pretty honest for a DLC character. The comeback mechanic really isn't going to push your advantage much when you're winning. Most sword characters have such generous hitboxes they don't even have to face the right way to get a hit while Sephiroth's stay within reason. And his counter needs you to face the right way AND it can break? You can't get away with being a dumb masher on this character, and it's great. I wish other sword characters were balanced like this.

I'm sad you didn't talk about whatever shenanigans are happening with his up tilt's scoop launch angles.

Something I have tested during my little Elite Match games in Smash Ulti when Sephorith was new. His Heavy version Up B also can be hit be certain Counters. Roy, Chrome, Marth, and Lucina can and Ike swings too slowly to hit below the ledge. If he is in his second swing you might get hit instead before I Frames run out or you have to play a little dangerous and space yourself just enough offstage to trigger it/miss it and drift to ledge. Little Mac also can Haymaker and hit Sephorith even if he counters the right way cause he can't push him out fast enough to hit counter and not him, Little Mac can also armor through Sephorith's counter and get K.O punch and hit him with K.O punch before his actions at most points. Depends when you armored it. Also can't Counter projectiles like other counters. Side B on hit also hits other people while rotating like a Leaf Shield from Mega Man would, Counter also can also be free during 2 orbs, 3 and it's a lil risky, may hit you but only takes it as if 1 hit you and you're nice still goes off, and 4 or more then you can't counter it, you'll swing only for a small bit before getting knocked out of it. Idk how this works for Lucario and Greninja though

7:08 What is pitfalls IV doing here?

I just realized the video titles joke... Every adjective used to describe the hitboxes start with the same letter as the character's name. I'm so zetta slow ^^'

There is also one other thing with his forward air. If you use it off the stage but close to the side of the stage, his sword gets stuck in the stage and he just chills for a while.

9:25 Now, the endlag on that move if you land with it is even worse that Up-Air's. Like, if you shield Octoslash, you can punish Sephiroth with THUNDER. RAW THUNDER. And given how light Sephiroth is... Yeah.

First day back on smash and played 3 Sephiroths with lucaro and shulk I’m proud they were 2 dubs in high level with these hitboxs

Something that I’d like to note is that up air and up smash deal more damage towards the end of the move!

I'd love to hear you talk about Zero Suit Samus's hitboxes. They have a weird design to them where they are large compared to the character model but last for a frame or two.

Hero’s d-tilt is almost like a good ol DLC dtilt but it isnt

Amazing choice for Terra’s theme from ff6 as the bgm

Amazing alliterations!

Anyone else notice that gigaflare has sweet spots with sour spots on the edges? So many people don't realize that and are amazed when gigaflare doesn't kill at 100.

i discovered yesterday that seph's fsmash clashes with his own down tilt which is reminding me of how hero's own fsmash can clash with his dtilt for no good reason considering how much.. weaker that dtilt is compared to his fsmash- the clash boxes in ult are so.. weird compared to when smashes could just.. break through a weaker attack like a tilt in some of the older games

It is so fun to reflect the projectile

"*Trademark FF7 down tilt*" Oh yeah Min Min and Joker are my favorite FF7 characters

Wait until they add a character with even more range than Sephiroth!

7:07 I'm not complaining but why?

Surprisingly the hit box for the activation of Sephiroth’s final smash is bigger then his forward smash

I'm surprised you didn't mention how a fully charged Neutral B can just delete stocks on the ledge as the explosion covers every option besides leaving the ledge and re-grabbing.

Sephiroth is my new main, and this was really helpful! And now, I shall give quickplay despair...

My jaw dropped so much when you said he's as light as Kirby. Bruhhhh

Sephiroths Down B Breaks if it take 30% or more damage so basically the second charge of ganon up smash will break it and what I mean by charge is that smash attacks has sound ques and the second one that happens and when you let go will break sephiroths counter

5:44 so thats why it hits me even when im ducking as kirby like that hitbox is stupidly low

Surely Lucas' Lucrative Hitboxes next, because some of them are or seem very odd

Still no Ike hit box analysis oh well Sephiroth is awesome

Fun fact Sephiroths down special, is actually a projectile, wich means it can be reflected If Sephiroth counters Kazuyas reflector attack, Sephiroth takes about 70% and instantly dies

One thing I think would have been neat to cover is shadow flare. While the shadows are circling the opponent, I would assume they function like Megaman's leaf shield, but do they generate a hitbox when they trigger?

An explanation of Sephiroth being such a lightweight is *(SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED FFVII DON'T LOOK DOWN BELOW)* By FFVII he's actually dead, during the Nibelheim incident (also covered in Crisis Core) he dies while fighting Cloud, he falls into the Lifestream, losses the lower half of his body and dies but his consciousness is able to fuse with the lifestream because of his pure hatred and he also has Jenova cells which allows him to manifest as fake Sephiroths made up of parts of Jenova.

That's a thick down air hitbox. I guess that explains why I get spiked off stage with it despite being 10 feet to the side of it.

Yo anarcho-sephirothism thumbnail let’s go.

When I learned of it, I finished the Aerith Spirit with Sephoroths Down Air.