Exploring Freemasonry, Joseph Smith, and Temple Connections 

so you don/t mind that JOSEPH SMITH murdered people the day he was killed in a jail cell? wow - you people are really blind. you don't bother to seek truth you just believe any old lie they tell you

Freemason not Christians

@@faithreturns333 self defense

I’m a M.M. For 60 years a member at Friendship Lodge 247 F&AM in PA , it is always a pleasure to learn more about other Masonic bodies, and their associations. John M. Barden

Because he worshipped the devil.

🌹🌿 The Egyptian Statues, at the front of the Freemason Lodge are interesting. Considering that there are Freemason Symbols in the Egyptian Hieroglyphs. The King James Bible was Translated from Aramaic Egyptian ♀️ Hebrew and Greek. And The Book of Mormon is Translated from Reformed Egyptian ♀️

Nice to see a fellow Latter-day Saint Mason on here. My experiences mirror yours that you've described here. Greetings from Saint George Lodge No. 33, F&AM of Utah. 🙂

@@BrandonCole_edohi Hopefully I’ll find myself your direction but if you’re in west Texas, come visit Midland Centennial Lodge No. 1448, Grand Lodge of Texas AF&AM

As an active member of the Church and as a Mason who has served as the Master of my lodge and as a district deputy of the Grand Master in the state of Idaho I can say truthful this is the best post I have seen on the explanation of the craft in relationship to the Church

@@IBNED Agreed. 😃

Come back

One thing that might be helpful to remember is that just because we don't have all the answers, doesn't mean we should throw away the things we have received answers to. If you have a bowl of various fruits that you like and don't like, are you going to throw away the whole bowl? No, you're probably going to keep the fruit that you do like and enjoy those. Same concept. God wants you back. We want you back. You are part of us and I don't have to know you to say that to you and to know it is true. Please think it over. :)

Their is an enormous need for people to seek discernment. The Latter Day Saint church is the restored Church of Jesus Christ but all members should seek a spirit of discernment through the Holy Ghost.

One thing to think about, also, is that the Book of Mormon is filled with symbolism that is also represented in the Endowment. He could have learned much about the Endowment's contents before he was even involved in Masonry to begin with.

Great insight!

They don't stand for anything good. They just have a front they show the public- now that their name is in the public eye.

You should

Did the Illuminati infiltrate the European lodge in the early 1800's ans start changing it? Albert Pike, leader of the Knights of the Golden Circle, supposedly the highest ranking mason in the world in the mid 1800's, had a "dark" history.

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

@@zon3665 Context matters. The Book of Mormon denounced those secret combinations which were calculated to allow evil men to murder and rob. Masonry does not resemble such combinations in any sense whatsoever. Indeed, if one denounces any organization based solely on the fact that it has secrets which are only divulged to the initiated, one must also denounce both the modern LDS Church AND the ancient Christian Church established by Jesus and the Apostles (and which are well-documented to have included secret initiatory Mystery rites).

What a cool story.

So coincidental that the ceremonies are so similar? Interesting that God would restore his special, sacred ceremonies first to non religious organizations... Hmm

Yes, and the "lord" of both is Lucifer.

Then you might be especially interested in study of Egyptology and how many of these rites might be connected there too. It’s not a copy and paste but there are correlations to consider.

I am so sorry to hear that you feel second class. I don't feel you are. There have been misunderstandings over time but you have NEVER been second class. There is a time and place for everything and if you trust God, things happen in His time.

@@EYELIDWAVE I am sorry you have been struggling. I believe the church to be true but unfortunately it is a construct under the laws of man but the principles of God. The establishment of the church was during slavery and Indian genocide. As members joined the church they had to deal with their own genocide and it really was not until after the Civil rights movement that the administrative body of the church could enforce any new revelation and do the PR necessary to get people to make changes. It take years to change people. The word of wisdom took more than a generation to become second nature to members. Blacks and priesthood is no issue to the younger members and soon we will be more inclusive to those dealing with gender fluidity. The church needed to have a formula to function as a body of people who did not relate from all nations and walks of life. The Masonic formula to make a unified fraternal brothers group from unlike people has been found to work in founding other groups. Elks lodge, Moose, Eagles, OddFellows all follow the formula. The LDS church benefits from its founders using the structure of the Masons to keep brothers and sisters giving service to each other and resources to the organization. God is using imperfect people and governments to keep the church alive. It is slow and beaurocratic and will become a larger world power slowly. The Masons are not growing like they had been so their influence is less than it has been. Just keep following the teachings of the church. The Masons say that you will get out what you put in. The more you follow the lessons the greater change for good you will experience. Keep the faith.

​@@EYELIDWAVE You are needed. I know it can feel so disheartening to learn of that. There were also black members in the 1840s when the faith was still freshly restored. I feel if Joseph Smith wasn't murdered, there would probably be even more in the faith by now. Some of us still feel like we don't fit in for other reasons too. A wise person told me once to "not judge history by today's standards". It's helped me a lot. If you haven't started working on your family history, start doing it. It is a great way to feel connected to your ancestors and honor their sacrifices and if you haven't gone to the temple yet, make it a goal. They need you as much as you need them. And finally, as a convert think back to your conversion and the feelings of the spirit and your testimony. I hope this helps ☺️ 💗

@@h.r.1523 that’s awesome - thank you for those pertinent reminders and thoughts - you are right. I’m glad we both shared what we felt 😃❤️

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Basically yes, but some lodges have started allowing women. There’s two types of these lodges “feminine” lodges that are women only, and “mixed” lodges which is exactly what it says it is. Where it gets interesting is some grand lodges don’t allow masons from “masculine” lodges to attend the feminine or mixed closed meetings.

It is just that but those who follow after the 33 rd rank the teachings of Albert Pike , then move you over to a secret group within

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

​@zon3665 - amen. This video is misleading and this secret society has nothing to do with our temple covenants and the revealed truth of the gospel. Disgusting that scripture central Would even consider this - unless one of them is a free maayson. Which would explain the love fest happening in the video.

@@Jeanie-nv7lo I'm afraid you're incorrect.

Sensitive so truth does not matter you?

@Jeanie-nv7lo secret handshakes temple? Lions paw is sure sign nail. Bill Schnoblien has great video as he Lds and Mason Temple of undoomed

Egypt was also destroyed for enslaving Gods chosen. And to this day Egypt is cursed and in ruins. Thank you Jesus Christ for blessing us with Truth.

It’s NOT a good organization. I have a family member who was a 33rd degree. I tell everyone I meet to avoid masons like the plague.

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

@zon3665 every instance of secret combinations includes that the purpose of such are to get gain or power, to carry out wickedness, and to protect the wicked from being discovered or from suffering justice. It starts in the "more wicked" part of a society and spreads. It's the purpose of the secret combinations that matter, not that something is held secret. Joseph and Hyrum don't seem to have made a connection between Masonry and secret combinations.

@@zon3665 I wish people said this about Chad Daybell. He was literally a prophet to many Utah members of the church

@@zon3665 Context matters. The Book of Mormon denounced those secret combinations which were calculated to allow evil men to murder and rob. Masonry does not resemble such combinations in any sense whatsoever. Indeed, if one denounces any organization based solely on the fact that it has secrets which are only divulged to the initiated, one must also denounce both the modern LDS Church AND the ancient Christian Church established by Jesus and the Apostles (and which are well-documented to have included secret initiatory Mystery rites).

So you never pledge allegiance to the U.S. flag and the U.S. republic

Jesus bit me!

You should not swear oaths at alter at 4.42 I see pentagram inverted on left of course

This is like a North Korean window display facade , nothing to see here folks move alone , everything is just fine.

He pointed out that everything he is restrained from speaking about is available online. I. e. Just because you can find information about nuclear submarines doesn't give a sailor/ submariner the right to talk about this things

It is said, that those who are slow to embrace the truth by faith, can easily behold its testimony in the stones of the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt.

So what you are saying is - being a part of this group Supplements the truth you find in the gospel and helps you to waste your time on less than eternal truth... thus helping in your wasting your most precious resource - your time? Time you could be spending living your covenants, serving others and using your real priesthood? Well done beta male.

@@Jeanie-nv7lo Heber C Kimball said it the best "I wish that all men were masons and would live up to their profession, then the world would be in a much better state than it is now.” Whitney, Orson F. (1888). Life of Heber C. Kimball: Apostle, Father and Founder of the British Mission. Salt Lake City, Utah: Kimball Family. p. 27.

Whats with Albert Pike, is that a secret too?

@@MichaelBurk-sj1tw Albert Pike was a man; not a secret. He was a great thinker and highly educated, and was highly influential on the form and substance of the Scottish Rite. He is thus generally held in high esteem by Freemasons (especially Scottish Rite Masons), and why a bust of him can be seen in the grand hall in the Utah temple. Some people accuse Pike of weird things like Luciferianism, but those claims are entirely baseless, and come from a misreading out of context of half of a particular paragraph in his book Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, which I have next to me on my shelf right now.

@Aldrnari - well there goes yours and your supposed maysonic good name. Albert Pike was an evil man according to his own words.

🌹🌿 The Egyptian Statues at the front of the Freemason Lodge are interesting. Considering that there are Freemason Symbols in the Egyptian Hieroglyphs. The King James Bible was Translated from Aramaic Egyptian ♀️ Hebrew and Greek. And The Book of Mormon is Translated from Reformed Egyptian ♀️

To bad your so called "lord" is Lucifer

Yes. They need to be honest with how the 'revelations' have changed. It's heartbreaking for anyone who has put their faith in these ceremonies and the need to do them just right to reach God/the highest level... Yet now, aspects have been changed. Similar to BOM that witnesses say the stone revealed each word specifically to JS and wouldn't show the next world into they got it just right.... Yet... The modern BOM is not what was originally dictated. How can that be right?

Joseph Smith did not adapt anything from this group. This secret society's true motives are opposite to the truth as revealed through the prophet Joseph.

Think he k .....1800 s Joseph Smith correct ??

Oh look - Zander is on the war path - deleting my comments because he doesn't like light or a differing opinion about his false information.

There is NO TRUTH in either. The so called "lord" of Both is Lucifer.

It cannot be overlooked that millenia before there were Masons, and millenia before there were Aztecs, there were Temples. On consulting the scholars, one will find that it was the Masons who borrowed from the Temples, not the other way around. One of the oldest books in the world is the Temple Scroll, which bears out the antiquity of the Temples, and multiple dispensations of the Gospel. It was a practice, over time, to claim to have knowledge that one did not necessarily have, in order to gain influence and power. As a result, we see the ruins of true Temples alongside the ruins of copycat temples The Masons were/are among the latter. Joseph Smith had access to the Oracles of God. Through him the Temple was restored in it's purity, as it was in the beginning.

Just remember that no individual member with a youtube channel short of the President of the Church, First Presidency and/or quorum of the 12 can speak on it's behalf when it comes to offical standings. With that said, it is well known, as explained in this video that Joseph Smith Jr. was indeed a mason and used truth(anywhere he could get it) and was inspired from the Holy Spirit to use masonic symbolism in some aspects. I can't speak from a masonic side of things. Growing up and finding out about these things I was also curious and asked about them. Who's to say that good men aren't inspired whether or not they are part of a specifc church. The Holy Ghost testifies of the truth of all things, whether that be spiritual or secular. Maybe knowledge and truth had been passed down from the early saints, to the templar, to the masons...that's my personal theory.

Joseph didn't need to "borrow" anything from the Masons. That's the lazy conclusion. Joseph restored what the Masons are but a limited, piecemeal, apostate version of.

I edited this video and toured the masonic temple several times now. Each time I thought of how different we are. As the video says, 10% of the LDS endowment is similar to Masonry. The rest is from the Bible. Both organizations use the bible. Considering LDS temples also have baptisms, initiatories, sealings, that probably brings the percentage down to like 1% of LDS temple ceremonies are similar to Masonic rituals. So you can see how every time I went to the SLC temple, I was reminded how different it is. What is similar between Masons and Latter-day Saints seems even less, when you add in other similar rituals from churchs like Catholics or even secular University graduations (with their caps and gowns). So Joseph Smith was translating the Book of Abraham, and he saw temple practices in it. Then he became a Mason and he saw temple practices in it. He was probably familiar with Catholics. And he probably knew the Book of Mormon enough to see it's temple practices. Certainly he knew the Bible enough to know about Solomons temple. All that came together to Joseph Smith, at the right time, to allow him to be open to the Lord in restoring the temple. In a way, I guess you could say the Lord inspired Masonry to come along Joseph's path. Joseph saw good in Masonry and adapted a small portion of it into our inspired version of the temple. Sure, some things are very similar, but in a way, Joseph saw the value of the teaching method, and used it. It's kind of the same how when LDS leaders came accross film and video, they adapted film into our temple ordinances because they help teach the principles. Rituals are very powerful, and it makes sense that Masonry, a practice founded on biblical rituals, would ring true to Joseph Smith.

Our church and symbols on the outside of our temples from that period has nothing to do with this organisation. Members of the Maysons un-alived the prophet Joseph. Our rituals, practices and Covenants have nothing to do with this group. Our practices come from God and antiquity older than this group. This group admits to stealing information from Solomon's temple. This video is not correct in any way and we have no connection or familiarity with this group or their purposes.

Part of the answer to that was that it was his job to arrest polygamists, so he was following the law. But while Masonry asks it's members to overlook religion and politics, it doesn't mean it the members don't do it. Many of our founding fathers were Masons, and they probably snuck in some politics in masonic temples. So while Masonry's ideal is to look past religion, it still happens. And if the leaders of the lodge are very opinionated, it'll come through.

Good question And ask his children about his double life and how he behaves at home vs in public. Every child of Mawson's I know are victims of child abuse through this organisation.

Good question And ask his children about his double life and how he behaves at home vs in public. Every child of Mawson's I know are victims of child abuse through this organisation.

@@Jeanie-nv7lo Utter nonsense.

@@Aldrnari- that's pretty sad siding with a systematic abusive system and gaslighting victims.

@@Jeanie-nv7lo You have no insight into this organization, clearly.

It's been said that at Carthage, Joseph's last words were the Masonic distress call, but obviously the Masons in the mob weren't even good men, let along better ones.

Yeah, one cannot be a Freemason and a Catholic.

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

@@azstate94 Yes, every pro-lds comment section has deleted comments. I never use hate or name calling. I will just state a fact if someone leaves out info. Censorship is strong in lds communities

@@advocate7643 how the brainwashing is perpetrated.

@@Susan-hk7uj if Joseph Smith was a prophet of truth Church, he had personal conversations with Lord, so why would he become a Mason's member?😉 If the place helps you to become better, why not?

@@MrDentistspb Secret combinations ?

​@@MrDentistspbJoseph Smith needed to learn how to present symbolic teachings. Saints volume 1 explains it.

It's very similar to Boy Scouts, but for grownups. Actually, Boy Scouts was started by a Mason (hence the clothing and handshakes and stuff). It's an organization that helps people be better, using the power of ritual.

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

​@@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2qlno it isnt.

@@hunterspencer7182 If you like boy scouts and earning merit badges and like world history and reenactment ceremonial stuff then it is a good group but it is loads of work so focus on mission first.

Don't go near it. It's Sat an ic

@@hunterspencer7182 please do your due diligence and find out the truth about Masons.

Don't listen to Jeanie. I am a Latter-day Saint and a Mason and it has been a huge blessing to me. It's not Satanic in the least. You should look into it if you're still interested. And I don't know if you're in Utah or not, but if so, feel free to reach out for tips about getting started.

Yes you can join. They welcome all.

Can You pay dues?

I wouldn't admit that to anyone about your father.

@@Jeanie-nv7lo Admit to what & Why? My father passed away over 2 decades ago.

@@madogg152 - grand masters are high up there in degrees... where they take a good man and corrupt then... inverting truth.

@@madogg152 - grand masters are high up there in degrees... where they take a good man and corrupt them... inverting truth.

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

@@zon3665 Context matters. The Book of Mormon denounced those secret combinations which were calculated to allow evil men to murder and rob. Masonry does not resemble such combinations in any sense whatsoever. Indeed, if one denounces any organization based solely on the fact that it has secrets which are only divulged to the initiated, one must also denounce both the modern LDS Church AND the ancient Christian Church established by Jesus and the Apostles (and which are well-documented to have included secret initiatory Mystery rites).

Very odd huh?

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

Free Mayson ry is not an honourable organisation. It is opposite to good.

I highly doubt that a secret combination would uphold such values as friendship, integrity, respect and service. By their fruits you shall know them. It is also written that in the Last Days good shall be called evil, and evil shall be called good.

@joshuagentry3118 - I just can't believe that Scripture Central would advertise such an organisation and tell people that somehow we come from them. Ughhh!! I think there are probably multiple maysons in scripture central.

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

It's rituals are private. But they are a public society. Their building is open to others to use. Our founding fathers were a part of it.

Yep it is literally part of the world wide secret combination. No good comes from being part of it. JOSEPH Smith was told to be involved so that the Lord could set up the Judases of Joseph's day. Our church has NO roots in this organisation. It's like saying the same person invented the bike and the car because they both have wheels.

Only insofar as "secret society" is defined by Merriam-Webster: "any of various oath-bound societies often devoted to brotherhood, moral discipline, and mutual assistance"

Yes, it's a secret society with levels of secrecy. It does not make good men better, it takes good men and wastes their time at least and corrupts them at worst the further one moves up the levels. Just like the flaxen cords of Satan. Once they realise what they have gotten themselves into, the organisation have them oath bound and have blackmail info on them that binds them to secrecy. I can't for the life of me fathom why church members would admit to being part of this sat-an-ic colt.

@zandersturgill - sorry you don't like the truth on your videos being exposed. Have fun with your sat-an-ic secret society.

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No, this has nothing to do with our temple and everything to do with setting up merderers to have no excuse for the crime of un-aliving a prophet.

The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.

@@zon3665this was a very relevant comment for you to comment this under. Good job.