I had the same results out of my Winchester 69 while testing different ammo to se which one it liked the best. It dropped so much compared to standard 22lr that I stopped shooting it. If you are going to shoot it regularly you need a dedicated rifle for it.
Buffalo's channel is one of a couple that feels like a friend telling it to me straight and I don't leave feeling like I've been conned. I appreciate your videos.
Buffalo quickly became one of my favorites on RU-vid. He’s the guy I reference for people who are new to guns but eager to learn more. He describes things very clearly and is a great place for anyone to learn more about ballistics and see fun shooting. And of course I’m not the only one who loves “Hello guys and gals, Buffalo here!
I use the standard Quiet in my back yard and at 25-30 yards they move along but can't cycle my Ruger 10/22 so it becomes a single shot. Same for my Beretta 92 22lr. Great option for shooting when you want to stay off the neighbor's radar.
@@anon8429 I've shot hundreds through my Ruger and not a single one ever cycled. Maybe the semi auto variety will work but I've never been able to find them. Like Buffalo demonstrated, accuracy at 25 yards is excellent.
I've tried them in my 10/22 and while there was no surprise at being single-shot, the rounds kept having feed failures and the bullet would get all bent in the case.
@@randystevens6302 Yeah, I cycle the bolt handle while using a BX-25 mag and then it would only come halfway forward with the round lodged at an angle. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
I am a big fan of the cci quiet loads. One of my favorite plink rounds. For yrs i had used CB shorts then longs eventually the quiets came along. I think they are a little bit louder with the slightly bigger charge to push the 40 gr instead the 29gr. at the same 710fps. The cb's are also just enough to not really need much or any hearing protection depending on surroundings. A bunch of cb long ammo and my 6 inch model 17 s&w was a fine use of a warm afternoon plinking around the yard. No empty shotshell or milk cap was safe.
We like these rounds for practice with our NAA...the softer recoil much easier on our old hands...we are out of them right now, but sooner/later they will show up again...worth the couple extra dollars for how we use them...
One of the great finds this weekend is your channel thank god for it and your family safe shooting videos for the whole family. God bless and stay safe
I've played around with this series for a couple of years. The higher velocity quiets and 970 fps cci suppressor round are the way to go on a semiautomatic. I run them in a dpms panther I've made a designated 22 using a cmmg conversion bolt and mag. For a little extra on the noise reduction check out the Ar-stoner linear compensator. I run one on my setup. Its threaded 1/2x 28 and it projects all gases forward. It tones down the perceived noise even more and you can snag one for $30-40 at the most. A great little compliment for a legal "can" for this round.
Nice video. I agree with your logic on supressors, and feel the same way.Eley used to make a .22 LR round with a 40 grain bullet at around 650 fps that was quite accurate at 50 yards. I think I still have a box here somewhere.
I've never seen a video on these, thanks for doing something different. I'm gonna give the originals a try if I can find some. Really appreciate your videos 👍👍
Always a pleasure Buffalo, I’ve never used those myself. If I want something a little quieter I use .22 shorts. They shoot very well through my Henry 002. Thanks for all your good work.
First, I love your range. Seems like such a nice peaceful place to relax. So surprising that you could get such a variety of .22 ammo. CCI is the best. Great video. Thanks.
Gave my dad a Mossberg 502 plinkster a few years ago. With the rifle, I gave him a box of the CCI quiets. They work great with dispatching ground hogs on his property. Great video man.
Brother you are awesome, with that 22 rifle. I have a Henry 22 lever action. Also a 10/22 rifle. Your very right. Open sights. That's how I was trained. Keep it going.
Thanks Buffalo. I'm with you re: suppressors. Nothing against them, but I just don't have a need for one and YES, the NFA should be repealed. In my High Standard target pistol I use only CCI Standard Velocity, my wife uses Wolf Match Target in her CZ 457 when she is shooting for groups. They are very quiet. I am sure the "Quiet" rounds are even more so. The down side is that range estimation becomes very important. As your test shows. If you misjudge the distance to a squirrel, for example, by 10 yds. you could easily miss. 👍
Great video, and very informative.I really appreciate your channel. Not only for the great content, but also for what it DOESN'T have. I don't need lead ins with explosions, lightning bolts, smoke and all the other crap some other channels have. I'm a happy camper with the great banjo pickin'!!
The "truly" quiet round is the Aquila "Colibri" and "Super Colibri". Of course, they recommend them for pistol only, but I have used them in bolt action rifles with no issue. They are primer only and actually will take game with a head shot.
I don't know why you guys don't just go to PCP airguns with suppressors on them at that point. I get that they are a little pricey to start off with, but ammo is cheap, and they are actually more accurate than this .22 ammo which has pretty poor extreme spreads and standard deviations compared to a good airgun. You can suppress them without permission from government because they aren't firearms too.
I love all of these. It’s a terrible addiction now. Its unbelievable how quiet they actually are. I also have some that are like 1050, but I haven’t seen the one at 835, but I will look for some. I had a little better luck accuracy wise with the segmented out of my BMR Bergara. I like it for shooting pest without bothering anyone or spooking the horses. I like that it is less likely to ricochet too. I used to use a 17 HMR for that purpose, but at close ranges, this does the job much more quietly. I can also tell you that 7 year olds enjoy shooting the original quiet as well. They are just great products. Thanks for the video.
Just watched this one, and Part II, today, but no sooner than I watched them back to back, I had some tree trimming to do. Now I'm back, and want to comment. Thanks for this two-part series, Buffalo. It was *very* helpful. I'm wanting to upgrade from an air rifle to deal with squirrels in my pecan tree, but I live within city limits. So I was thinking quiet ammo in a 10/22 carbine. Some time back I bought some boxes of the Aguila Colibrí rounds ( the "regulars" at 420 fps, not the Super ones) and have used them on rats and possums. (We may live in the city, but we keep chickens and quail and rabbits and garden.) The Colibrí rounds are no louder than a cap gun, and worked okay on rats, but took a couple of rounds to dispatch a possum (those varmints have a tough hide). BTW, I fired those rounds through a Ruger Wrangler from around 6' away.. So I started searching for info/videos on quiet ammo with some actual gunpowder in the casing. I knew about CCI Quiets, so I started my search with that. And, Lo! And Behold! Buffalo came through for me. I was thinking of using the Quiet-22 stuff in a 10/22 carbine, so I'll probably go with some of the Semi-Auto version. Thanks for this.
Brilliant as always Buffalo thanks. Moderators are used widely in the UK for most calibres. Not required by law, but it is entered on your Firearms Certificate. I find with 22lr rounds such as the CCI supersonics that the moderator makes no difference to noise level. Silence being paramount in pest control, I use Norma Subs at about 980fps. The only "noise" is the action, and the target being hit. Minimum disturbance is essential. Good to 100 yards with holdover out of a CZ457. Very tight groups on paper at all ranges up to 125 yards. I am dreading the lead ban, already tried Norma "Eco". Accurate but the crack makes pest control a joke, shoot one rabbit and the rest disappear. Always enjoy your honest and down to earth videos.
I alternate between the quiet 22LR and 22 short CB with my Henry for rodent control or plinking. They both have similar sound levels and velocities; aside from 40gr vs 29 gr., they pretty much perform the same way for what I use them for. Excellent video!
I used the 735fps version and it only cycled in my HK416-22 half the time .. I figured that's why they called it "semi-auto". Your thoroughness in your videos is exemplary. Great info.
Well, as they say, " you learn something new every day",..by this I mean, that I did not know that CCI had other types of the 'Quiet' .22 ammunition available. Main reason for this is because dealers around were I live in Canada, don't carry it. I do use the .22LR RN ammo. and enjoy it a lot for shooting at the Indoor Range I go oto. I'm looking forward now, to seeing your testing of this with your gel. blocks, this should be interesting to see too.
I went ahead and got two suppressors this time last year. 30 cal and .22. I got the .22 to pair with a factory threaded PPK/s I got. It’s the funnest gun I own. I have a Henry carbine in .22 and there’s no need to suppress it. Lever action means it will feed literally anything, so you really don’t need to suppress it. The tube magazine would also interfere with a suppressor, and it’s not factory threaded. However, even the 710 fps quiets and CB longs that won’t cycle my PPK/s are uncomfortably loud from that 3.3 inch barrel. The suppressor knocks that right down. I also took a chance and on a hunch bought a extra large bianchi shoulder holster designed for a long barrel revolver, and it fits like a glove. I don’t carry it, and specifically got the holster to have a place to put it while I change targets. But having something so quiet and easy shooting has taken my shooting to the next level. Recoil mitigation and flinching with my 1911 have both improved massively because I’m getting so much practice in. Even the tiniest bit of recoil combined with the fact I’m actually putting lead on a target makes it so superior to dry fire.
I can attest to the effectiveness on squirrels. Those segmented hollow points will exploded in soft targets. I put one into a squirrels chest right under it's arm. There were three exit wounds on the other side. Very handy and reasonable accuracy for close range small game hunting.
Having purchased some of the CCI quiet 22 semi-auto version and some the original version, I was interested to see someone actually comparing results. Thanks for that!
Another great review. I always learn alot watching your videos. It amazes me how each gun can be so different. For instance, my CZ 455 Tacticool shot the segmented the best, 5 shot 1.58" groups @ 60yds. And 2.28"groups with the original lead round nose @ 60 yds. Go figure!!! Just for fun I've shot the CCI Quiets out to 200 yds. At that distance I have to dial 15.6 mils on my scope. That translates to about 10 feet of bullet drop. But to my surprise was able to hit a 5" steel plate about 1 out of every 7 shots. I know that 20" groups at 200 yds is considered pretty poor. But I didn't think it was too bad for an ammo designed for 30 yds and under. On an interesting side note, the 20" group @ 200 yds was only 6" wide. I'm guessing the velocity deviation is causing that type of stringing??? But I had fun experimenting with the limits of this ammo. Keep the great videos coming. We really appreciate your content and the manner in which you present it.
Excellent video, I have shot a bunch of the CCI Quiets and have always thought that ammo was nothing more than niche at best and would have ever expected that level of accuracy!
I knew the Henry was coming out for this video. I use these on raccoons up close. I don’t know anyone in my area that is hunting raccoons in my area. So I have many, great video Buffalo!
Loved the video, and thank you for making it! I picked up 20 boxes or so of the segmented HP last month for $3 per at my pawn shop, they just couldn't move the stuff. I was awfully curious and impressed with the results. I also had to cycle every shot out of my 10/22, and pistol. The noise reduction was impressive. I'm going to have to try them out of a revolver, but I doubt there'd be much, if any noise reduction on account of the cylinder gap. Well now I have another reason to have a lever action .22
Good job, thank you. I would recommend you try the CCI suppressor .22.. I think they may be more accurate then what you shot today. They feature a 45gr HP at 970 FPS. Still subsonic and very quiet.
If you get a suspected squib while shooting a lever action or semi-auto, you can also put your finger into the chamber and look down the muzzle. Your finger reflects enough light to allow you to see down the entire barrel. If you can't, see your finger tip, you have an obstruction.
This was a nice fun to watch & very informative video that is very enjoyable to see. I haven’t got the segmented version yet, I had a chance to but decided the other two are plenty for us(my sons & I). The semi auto run well in everything we have & are very accurate for $5 a box of 50. The 710fps quiet we have found runs well in my CZ 457 28” Jaguar 1/2x28, 1976 Remington 572 pump, 1968 Wards Westerfield 87a, 1949 Remington 550-1 and of course my revolvers. Your chrono data is very informative & helpful. Thanks for your work here. Nice to know passing on the segment variety wasn’t a poor decision. The semi auto is really good(my go to) especially for our older match pistols, it runs flawlessly! It’s fun out of our 1982 Marlin model 60, 1943 Winchester 74, & Ruger 10/22. We agree, freedom is the greater good!
Great little rounds! I've used these for quiet shooting at a small indoor range when they were cheap. My favorite quieter ammo has been CCI's 40 grain Subsonic hollow points. They're definitely not as quiet as any of these at a rated 1050 fps, but I trust them more for clean shots on small game, and they're still quiet enough that taking a few shots outdoor doesn't bother my ears. As far as for quiet .22 pistols, I love Aguila's Super Colibrís, but I don't think I'd use them for anything more than quiet plinking.
I too like the CCI Quiet for the same reason. Less obvious evening or night time dispatch of pest. I find they are quieter than my my FX Dreamline PCP air rifle (we are not allowed suppressors even on air rifles in Canada). Great video and look forward to the ballistic gel tests.
Pretty comprehensive test to be honest. Also great shooting as usual. Hitting 110 yards with such a major holdover is no joke. Hope you stay warm. I've heard you southern guys are sensitive to the cold. 🤣 I am kidding of course. At my age I'm sensitive to the cold and I've lived my whole life up north. Take it easy man, and be safe out there. 😎
Just watched this video. And a great job! I’ve followed for a little bit and have numerous vids to catch up on (which I am). But this is one of the best videos I’ve seen information wise! Not just of your videos, but flat out on YT! Great job! And killer data, as I am seeking something along these lines for some squirrel hunting out of my old Savage BA.
It's great that you're making this content. Well done. It can't be stressed enough how quiet CCI Quiet is compared to any .22lr subsonic I've ever tried (never tried it in the newer semiauto version). It's not even close. In a bolt action rile in an outdoor environment it was shockingly quiet. I found accuracy to be poor, even out of some high end rifles. At 25 yards you could hit just about any reasonably sized target, if shooting pests, head shots wouldn't be a problem - BUT - at 750ish fps with a 40gr bullet the trajectory, which is a crack up, along with the loss of accuracy versus your favorite ammo makes 50yd shots a little iffy. I would say a tennis ball would be in trouble but a ping pong ball might be a real challenge. You could body shoot a large pest at that distance I guess, but that's a questionable thing to do (unless you're being attacked by zombie rabbits or something similar). Remember, this is .22 air gun territory, 550 to 850fps with about a 13gr bullet, but you're lobbing a projectile that's triple the weight at 750fps. I prefer my old RWS air rifle if I need to be super quiet (it's maybe even quieter!) but being able to shoot all of my old bolt action, lever, slide action and single shots with a safe backstop without people knowing or being bothered is a great thing. Absolutely no need to wear any type of ear protection either
i love these , also Buffalo. took a chance , when they were $ 2.49 at wal---t love them . shoot pest out kitchen window with my CZ 452 . bought the hole case Twice By the box . no testing just sighted in at 35yards , Fun Fun , Fun.
Great job. You did what most of us would not have done, so the education was worth our time to watch. Now most of us don't have to do the work. If a quiet shot is required we can make a reasonably intelligent choice in what to by without having to buy all three. Good education, Bro.
The reasons you listed about not having a suppressor are exactly my own thoughts about it. Their stinking fees on a muffler are extortion and by my choosing not to buy one and pay the fee, the government is NOT prohibiting me from owning one. I just refuse to have my personal ID harvested to that degree, pay extortion, and wait around. Yeah I know they are implementing a digital system to cut the time in half, or third, but it's still extortion and still stupid.
It is stupid, we all agree on that, but it is what it is. Its not a headache to do, the process is pretty easy for what it is once you do it. And you can actually do a Form 1 to build one yourself and only have to wait about 2-4 weeks to get approved.
@@wyattflp6163 Also as we've been finding out, the NICS system has become digital and has been made into a national gun registry. How's that complying with one's unconstitutional government, paying unconstitutional taxes and fees, complying with registration to own a MECHANICAL OBJECT. That's just affecting one's Second Amendment. What about if the same things were done with the First Amendment? Who would submit to a background check, a waiting period, and pay a big extortion tax to be able to buy a cell phone? Do you think anyone would submit to this?
@@exothermal.sprocket So what do you propose people should do? But arent going to do, they're just going to keep on paying the tax stamp and abiding by the NFA law. I dont really forsee anyone doing anything about it anytime in the near future. So it is what it is, and the way its been for a long time. You pay the $200 to legally own a suppressor, or you dont, be a rebel and say fuck the laws and rules and build one anyways.
@@exothermal.sprocket I agree it definitely isnt the road to liberty. It would take a war to take back our rights. Not protesting, not taking it to the courts, but like I said I just dont see people doing anything like that anytime now. I dont see men and women banding together though, not for those reasons. For NFA items, and everything else you mentioned. These generations I think in a lot peoples minds its just not worth dying over. So, as much as we dont like the BS that we have to deal with with the gov't. In the meantime we just put up with it. Until something radical/ really extreme happens in the (near?) future.
Been watching a number of your videos and honestly it is the video of this nature that is a little off the beaten path but gives straight up no BS information and an honest personal opinion that had me just hit the subscribe button. Making videos that covers relevant products and topics relating to rimfires that others are not covering in depth is exactly what we need, not just another rehash that is saying the same thing as 20 other channels. This ammo seems excellent for close in quiet varmint/pest control and we all know how something shoots or groups out of one rifle may mean little when shot out of a different platform. The Henry or really any .22lr lever action and these ammo's at 25yards and less for smaller critter control seems like a match made for each other if noise has a bearing on your shooting location. Also should be able to pretty easily with the lighter tension bolt return springs available be able to tune a 10/22 to cycle the pretty reliably also. For non match everyday .22lr plinking and field hunting ammo CCI is hard to beat overall for performance/cost.
I agree 100% with you buf on suppressors. Also the saying at the end of your videos is just exactly what america is about and we all need to know it and preach it..
"Lord knows I don't need to be on any more gubmint lists..." I feel ya, brother. I feel ya. I'm a former Marine infantry sergeant with a gun fetish and an outspoken hatred of politicians. I suspect I'm on the top end of a very short hit list somewhere in the bureaucratic disaster we call a government these days.
Enjoyed today's range test, Buff, and look forward to the gel test. Had to smile when I saw you wearing an OG's Danger Show branded garment. I'm one of his branded garment-wearing fans, too. You're right about freedom being the greater good, and OG is right, too, with his statement: "Nobody is coming. It's up to you."
Nice!!! I use CB Longs in a 24" Mossberg bolt gun. (29 grains) NO noise. Accurate at 50 feet. Just breaks through the back of a 3/4" plywood board at 50 feet. No wild shots or squibs. Very quiet and accurate in a 5" revolver. Your semi auto ammo was noticeably noisier. But the bbl was 16".
Remington 552 will cycle these in semi-auto. Pretty good out to 50 yards but they drop off after that, Have not tried the 45 grain yet. We really like the "quiet".
Very good video. Have used .40 gn for skunks and other varments since they came out. Does not disturb the neighbors at night. Welcome to the weather of northern MI.
In my Winchester 94 .22 which had a 21 or 22 inch barrel (I cant check because I no longer have it) I found even the CCI HP 1050 FPS was almost as quiet as my suppressed 12 inch Ruger 10/22 (I live in England and our minimum barrel length is 11.75 inches) so I never bothered to put a suppressor on it.
B...you can file a form 4 electronically for suppressor now which they claim 3 mos turn around with goal of one month...I have a ruger 10.22 50th anniversary which shoots subsonic ammo with suppressor just fine. You can only hear bullet strike target....suppressor cost me 250 plus tax stamp...I have 4 suppressors and despise NFA!! But no problems getting my nfa items including subgun....I use a cheapo extended small inspection mirror and bore light to check for clear bore .....cheers
