This is a resource we definitely needed. In a real shortage, these odd-ball rounds are often the last offerings left on the shelf. It is worth seeing what they can do.
We have several boxes of shorts, a few more of the quiets...we have specific applications for the ammo in certain guns...the cost is a couple more dollars, but the performance is noticeably different in those applications...works for us...
Well, I was surprised by the penetration. I wonder what a 40 gr Nosler at 4200 fps from a 22-250 would do in the same block? It might not penetrate but go frangible. I can't even guess as I've seen blocks catch pretty powerful rounds.
@@darkoflight4938 I figured it would tumble right out of the barrel like a 95 Berger VLD through a 10 twist .243. I was amazed that Buffalo hit where he aimed.
I’m 58 and all my life, 22 shorts were higher than 22lrs because of the volume of production aspect, but in the early decades of the 20th century, the nation went through gobs of shorts. I’ve read the biography of more than one accomplished hunter who walked to the country store as a boy and bought however many individual rounds his pocket change, earned by hard labor would buy! There were a lot of people in the same boat and it wasn’t just anyone who could spring for a whole box back then! We are so lucky in the modern era!
I bought some CCI Quiet at Wal-Mart back 10 years ago when 22 started to be hard to find. For the longest time the 3 boxes stayed on my dresser until there was a porcupine eating up my garden one evening. It was dark and the neighbors lights were out for the night,. Those CCI Quiets took care of business and the neighbors were still sleeping like a baby in the cradle.
The 20 gr Colibri is no joke. I once set up a small propane tank at 200 yards and hit it about 6 times in a row from a 4" revolver, aiming 15 feet high lol. One of those funny never repeatable things.
Buffalo, you don't ever need to apologize for any of your videos. I may have said this before, but you're doing US the favor, spending your time and money to educate and entertain us. So, thank you, and I enjoyed it.
I don’t know if it’s still true or if it ever was true that RU-vid discounted likes that are hit to soon in a video because people were hitting the lithe thumbs up without watching the video.
Thanks, Buffalo! An excellent demonstration of the seriousness of .22 rimfires. People paying attention will see that .22 is NOT a toy or overgrown BB gun. Nice hat, too!
Definitely a dangerous “toy” in the hands of a fool or someone ignorant of terminal velocity. I work occasionally with a man who when he was a 6 year old child some of the local boys put a lit fire cracker in his hand and laughed when it blew up. They stopped laughing when he screamed and started picking up his fingers so his mommy could put them back on. Turns out mommy couldn’t do that. 😢
Eh... I wouldn't have melted that block either for the one little blemish in the back. You do a good job distributing the shots in the block for sure. Thanks for some honest, reliable, educational info and footage. I know a lot of folks don't realize you might have 15 plus hours in all that it requires to make this video. Much appreciated.
Worth mentioning... The colibris are so underpowered that they can cause bullets to become lodged in the barrel without the shooters knowledge. Make sure you always check your barrel for obstruction before firing other ammo. I once had 6 lodged in the barrel at once. I thought we had been missing the target until I looked down the barrel! Great video Buffalo!
I honestly wondered about that when he said 400 fps. Was thinking maybe the friction in a longer barrel would lodge one. Lucky you realized what was going on.
@@CorePathway it's really not necessary. I shoot lead so I don't have to worry about copper fouling. If the barrel shoots good, I let it be. I've cleaned barrels and had group size increase. Once the barrel was leaded up well they come back down. Just not necessary to clean them unless the accuracy falls off.
@@CorePathway oh. I thought this was a reply to a different comment. Yeah those rounds creep me out. I can see the potential for a squib. You're right though, if shooting those I would be keeping the barrel clean beforehand.
I appreciate how you get right to the point without a lot of set up, talking or rambling on about subscribing etc . Most videos i have to fast forward several minutes just to get to what is relevant. Within two minutes you were into the action. Nice to see for a change from most youtube videos.
Wow, what a video and the performance from the Sniper Subsonic and the CCI .22 Long!?! I am so grateful that you took the time to showcase some of these more obscure and lesser known rimfire cartridges. Thank-you. Luke.
I was amazed at how well the Colibri round using just the primer was considering it was pushing a lead bullet. Many years ago I met someone who loaded center fire bullets with wax projectiles by melting candle wax in a pan then using the casing like a cookie cutter. No powder just the primer to propel the wax. Used it at home to practise.
Got a .22 Henry Golden boy myself, i love it. Also have a .44 Big Boy. .22 is a deadly round, and very under estimated. The home guard in the UK and the special auxiliary units were issued with .22 lee Enfield sniper rifles during WW2.
Best video on slower 22 rounds that I've seen. Very surprised with Snipers wound channel even with tumbling. Knew the 22 long would go out the back. It usually is more accurate than 22lr but harder to find. Learned a lot. Thank you Sir. 👍 👍
It genuinely started me. I made an audible comment that my wife questioned me about. Savage, and very quiet. Almost movie bad guy with a “silencer” scary.
The long case and long rifle case are identical. The difference is the long round takes a 29 grain bullet. The long rifle round usually carries a longer bullet.
I am proud of myself because I bet that that Aguila Sniper Subsonic 60 gr on the .22 short charge wouldn't stabilize, and would tumble like crazy, and it did, creating a beautiful wound channel. But I did not expect how deeply it would penetrate. That took me by surprise. I would love to see it out of a revolver (not sure it would cycle well in a semi-auto, but I am prepared to be surprised again).
The SSS is my preferred hunting round for grouse when combined with my Ruger Classic Rimfire. I've since picked up a Ruger H/BAR 10/22 and it shoots them no problem. I find it odd because in almost every other semiautomatic rifle I try it in, it fails to stabilize.
That penetration surprised me...and now I'm wondering about if that can be duplicated out of a short barrel revolver...using the Henry would maximize performance of any those rounds, but out of an NAA or wrangler, hmm...
@@PlayingWithFireOutdoors Thanks! That Sniper Subsonic basically printed one rugged hole. Impressive. Then again, you are a good shot, and there were a few more rounds that performed very well. As you said though in that video, Aguila Sniper Subsonic 60 gr is your preferred hunting round.
@@mountainhobo Yes, I like it because it's pretty quiet vs a 12g or a full speed .22lr. When it hits the big heavy bullet will decelerate quickly, it's supposedly a copy of the ammo used in the Isreali suppressed and none suppressed .22LR firearms. Not much noise made, I have to do an outdoors video vs the range hut
Just picked up my henry 22lr with the 20" octagonal barrel today! Worth every penny as far as I can tell. I'm sure she will be a straight shooter. Thanks as always for the video 🇺🇲
I'm a fan of CCI quiet 22's. I've also used 22 shorts when shooting in the back yard (country house) with the grand kids. Love that you can shoot without needing ear pro.
That 60 grain sub-sonic sniper round looks like it stopped with the bullet base pointed forward. Very informative video. When it comes to completely using every bit of the gel blocks, It reminds me of something I heard numerous times when I was growing up: Waste not, want not.
Absolutely love the clear gel tests. Really impressive penetration on those shorts. Especially those little CBs. I was not expecting that. Take it easy man, 😎😎
I purchased my Henry after watching your earlier video, watching it feed a huge variety of .22 ammo sold me on it and my kids absolutly love shooting it 👍👍🇦🇺
Great video Buffalo! Thank you so much for doing that. Didn't feel rushed at all. And what surprising results! I love my Henry H001, and .22 is about my favorite caliber to shoot with the fam. One argument I had with a guy who knows next to nothing about firearms is he insists a .22 cal handgun won't kill a person. I told him he wrong and do not try that! Haha. But he said if you are not up close, it won't kill. If you read this, that might be a nice gel test. Thanks for all the great vids B!
Great video, Buffalo. It shows the versatility of the Henry and of 22 ammo. It also supports the old theme that, assuming a properly constructed projectile, speed kills. Perry P. , So Cal.
Great video. I pick my Henry up tomorrow, after my state’s required 10 day waiting period. I am going to go and pick up some of these rounds. Thank you!
Great video and an amazing gun. I did not know that there was a gun that could take any .22 amo mixed or otherwise. Very practical in a shtf situation.
that Gave me some great ideas I gotta buy some of of the pest ammo. I'm also gonna try those 60 graners for target shooting. Thanks brother great video.
This video reminded me about an interesting rifle. The Remington 522 Speedmaster auto; it is one of the few auto 22 rifles able to use shorts, longs and long rifle ammo. The pump action Fieldmaster could do the same trick as well. That is something some tubular magazines rifles can do that others can’t. Shorts shoot quite accurately to 25-yards and not too bad at 50. There was a time you could even buy rimfire smooth bore guns made for using rimfire shot shells. I have an old box of Remington high velocity shorts with hollow point bullets. You open a real wide subject on Rimfire ammo that has endless brands and types of 22 ammo. ✴🐂✴
I have one also! Truly an under rated and accurate old rifle, but it has an elegant and tempting design with an easy bypass for the secondary sear which tempts a person to experiment with making it full-auto. DON'T DO IT! Not only is that very illegal, but it just will not work as the bolt is too light and the extractor is too slow! You will hear one BANG and find three smashed brass hulls in the firing chamber! And that was with SHORTS! It probably would have blown up with Long Rifles.......................elsullo
Ha!!! Be careful of the muzzle blast! The Eagle lower velocity went in further than I thought it would. Interesting rounds I’ve never heard of any of the unusual eagle rounds.
What a wonderful demonstration of this family of smallbore cartridges. You always make interesting content and deliver it in such a peaceful way somehow! A pleasure to watch.
I've shot the Aguilar Sniper rounds from my AR-15 with a Tactical Industries .22 LR conversion and a 1:8 barrel, the 60 gr bullet out of that barrel usually gives me a 3/4 to 1 inch group at 50 yards if I do my job behind the rifle.
I have got to say, I have well over $100K in firearms in my own personal collection of 35 years of buying and collecting.... This may sound like I am full of sh*t, but I am excpetionally serious, when I tell you, one of my top favorite units in my Henry Arms, lever action .22LR smooth bore, mini garden rifle with walnut finish the H001GG. I adore that dinky rifle, and is one that I always have fun with. Every time at the range, people see me playing with a dinky miniature rifle and are like "what is that, and can I see it, can I shoot it?"..LOL.. it never fails to draw a crowd. That grey walnut so smoothly transitioned to the metal works is just beautiful. I wish I had a lager one to match it like in a 30-06 or something, oh wait, I do, never mind that beating the day lights out of my shoulder, LOL... But the mini's, as so dang much fun. I do not wear hearing pro's when playing with it in open field ranges, (I would recommend hearing pro for closed in areas) with any firearm. My and my buddy's each have a mini, and (well, I have 2 of them, will explain later) and we bring those along, when we bring out all the other toys, and it never fails, re all end up playing and competing in our own little match 25, 40, 50, 75, and 100 yards, we set up soda cans, as permission of the range officers, as this is something we have been doing for 7 to 8 years, and we all will be seeing who has the steadier off had shoots. Let us not forget, this series is smooth bore, no riflings in the barrel. the little guy starts to flop projectiles around at about 40 yardsand the grouping progressively opens up after that. 150 yards, you will be lucky at a 3 foot grouping, LOL, 200 yards, I don't know how bad it is, I have yet to find a barn side large enough to lay out a grouping pattern, LOL. It is known up front, what these are just trainer rifle for young boys and girls, like what were given in cub scouts, and boy scouts of America, some would graduate to a semi 10/22 REM's or the McCormics, ultimately, to be graded upon at the end of the training year, of all the newly skill sets learned, who well did a kid take care of the unit, etc... wonderful units for that.. now, to have a group of 40 to 50 year old idiots out there playing with kids toys, I realize it might look like we all lost our minds, But, I am just telling you, those dinky units, just like the unit you showcased in this video the H001 which is just like the H001GG, other then the wood is different and finished different. both are wonderful units. and they are so affordable. NEW from Henry Arms, pending the model you desire out of the mini garden rifle series, can range from $250 to $580. That is amazing, for the amount of fun me and my buddy's have had with them. Which was ALLOT over the years. I mentioned I have two of these units. Well, my second unit, with a .22 Lapua CenterX or other higher performing cartridges in that format, Out side of my weaker skill set of a steady hand, I can reach out to 400 to 600 yards with the other one, I changed the barrel out to what ended up being a 19.250" long rifled barrel, I wanted a 22 inch barrel, but my machine would only let me get the 19.250 inch long. Although i am biased towards this units, my buddy's laugh at it and call it the girraffe due to its strangely long barrel to stock proportions, LOL.. I did the best I could to match the blu-ing and the clear coat as the receiver color and shine, but it is off a few shades. that is okay though, I adore that unit. The barrel is out of a incorrectly ordered, wrong barrel received type deal of my buddy and the company would not accept it back as it was suppose to be a large diameter unit, and them sent a tapered barrel to him, or that is what his order form shows, meaning, he screwed up and not the company. but it has a Bergara barrel on it, machined to fit my dinky Henry Arm. One thing I wished I had thought of before doing this barrel was to machine it to be a hex O.D. barrel. that would have looked so cool. I don't know how the transition would have worked out to he receiver frame, but the idea of a hex barrel would have been so cool looking. it is modified politely for a more straighter weaver top rail and more sharply defined rail, for more bite on the scope rings frictional grip. I haven't had time to finish the miniature bi-pod system for it, with is QD for ones needs. just scaled down to match the dinky rifles look. the legs have walnut pec's or laminate outer layer to match the stock's color and look and finish. I am telling you, these stupid little mini garden rifle are so much fun and all the other toys, sure, they are fun, but there is always something that each one has that is a detractor from the fun aspect, but not the mini lever actions. grab a box of ammo (better grab a box of 500) and the garden rifle, throw it in the back pack, and head out to the back yard or range. so much relaxing fun, worry free. and the Henry ALWAYS WORKS, never once has it had issues. Ammo on the other hand, of course, that is the nature of the beast with rim fire, but, never the rifle itself.. LOVE THESE UNITS. pardon the novel, Just wanted to share that stuff, and how much fun these lil guys are.
I've tried to keep a small supply of 22 shorts in our safe just for introducing others to shooting sports. We also have some CCI quiet. It shoots very precise out of our henry lever carbine. That's a pretty block. Don't melt it was a good decision. And some of us would watch you shoot cans with a 22 for 15 minutes. Like the hat and shirt.
I have a 22 ammo can full of year's worth of loose ammo, they are separated in bags of short, long, and long rifle. These are from a time before all these exotic ammos came out, they are all high velocity I remember aa a kid using the old single shot you could drop a lot more of them short rounds in your pocket if you wanted to have more fun. I still have couple of older winchester model 190 I believe, they will cycle all the 22 ammo from short to long rifle I believe if you wanted to compare it to another rifle closest model would be the marlin or Glenfield model 60, but they only cycle on long rifle. I liked the winchester model because you can get a lot of 22 short in that tube, guess that was the first high capacity magazine. These videos bring back a lot of child hood memories, I am glad that growing up my parents would send me to spend my summer on a farm with my grandmother were we did not have TV and you actually had to work from sun up to sunset I think it would do kid's a lot of good to go back to the basics, get them away from the electronics and into the outdoors
Great information! Please keep testing oddball stuff like this! Heres a video idea that I think you would be interested in: after reading about it in an old book, for years now ive been filling all my hollow points with canning/baking isle gulf wax. They claimed it makes the hollow points open up faster and wider, and keeps them from failing by plugging up with hair, and ive found this to be true. I think itd be awesome to have a side by side comparison of waxed vs un-waxed projectiles.
Veteran - that makes sense - fiber plug transmits the impact pressure straight down, wax acts like a fluid at impact and transmits pressure to the side hydraulically. Maybe I'm not expressing as clear as I'm thinking but I can see how that wax works. It ptevents fiber plugging and acts like the blood and flesh the bullet hits.
Thumbs way up from me! I love these types of videos! And colibris, shorts, and longs out of a Henry make my day :) That sniper subsonic surprised me! Big wound cavity! I need to find some of that stuff!
It makes a good wound channel, but, shooting it out of a standard 1:16 twist, at 25 yards it will be going sideways thru the paper 2 out of 3 times. I would like to find a replacement barrel with a 1:8 or 1:10 twist to try the snipers in. Brownells does not carry anything like that unless you want to start with a barrel blank...
Imagine, sitting in an old cloth folding chair- right there as the sun sets- a few folks watching and talking about these shots. Getting tired while paying attention, thinking back to the 50s when my Dad took me to a pawn shop and got me a 22 rifle. Aahhh, I sure enjoyed this video.
Very very interesting. The Golden short surprised me. But those Colibre loads are too cool. I need another lever gun, versatility is amazing. Take care brother
Been waiting for someone to gel test the colibri rounds. I fired one at a old tire backstop filled with sand and it not only didn't penetrate it bounced back and zipped past my head * always wear eye protection kids* Great video as always.
This is my second post,, i really like that Henry rifle,, it makes me want to go buy one,, I'm using a Ruger 10-22 model now,, but i have others as well,, but lever guns are fun....
Good stuff! The ending with the different rounds sounds was interesting. I love the shorts in my Henry too - always gets a look at the range when you shoot 21 rounds lol
Just came upon this video.Excellent review of the unusual 22 cal rounds. Exactly what I needed.The CCI 40 grain Quiet 22 LR is my favorite and go to round. Thanks.
...that Colibri is exellent for an indoor ranges...virtually silent from rifles...I use office storage boxes packed with old magazines as a backstop...
I got a head shot on a pesky skunk with the Super Colibri and it was one and done. Don't count that ammo out. Also, for such low velocity, the Sniper Subsonic went through a 2×4 and 2 layers of drywall when I tested it. Aguila makes great and interesting products.
I know a guy that shoots a lot of those 60gn Agulias...Like you said, they don't stabilize, So they are no-bueno for over 100yds. He is trying to get a faster twist barrel to test the heavier bullets with. Again, thanks for sharing.
