Exploring The CUT Prologue Chapter in Red Dead Redemption 2! DELETED Map & blackwater Escape Route! 

There is also a horse buried and only showing its leg at the avalanche if you notice carefully

I actually like that we don’t see the Blackwater massacre. I think the story stays a lot more interesting if there’s a mystery to it. Honestly, the only thing I really wanna know is whether or not Landon Ricketts was actually there.

Ahh, now that makes sense why Jenny was buried so far north of Colter .

The lack of a prologue is a part of Rockstar's storytelling style. All Rockstar games start with the characters already in the thick of it, with the story surrounding that being fed to us as the game plays out. GTA 3, GTA 4, RDR1, you name it, are all like this. That's why I believe RDR2 was always supposed to begin in the mountains. GTA 5 is different in that it actually has an explicit prologue, but even then, the story surrounding what happened and why, is given to us later on.

RDR2 sadly has a lot of cut content because Rockstar rushed to meet the October 2018 release date

I think not showing Blackwater actually benefits RDR2’s storytelling because it allows us to give Dutch the benefit of the doubt for the first half of the game.

The prologue being cut makes perfect sense with the evidence shown. It is always a shame when content is cut from games we love, but I trust Rockstar's judgment when it comes to this.

Given the insane popularity of this game I'm genuinely surprised Rockstar didn't just throw together some half-assed 5 hour DLC and sell it for 30 bucks. They could have even done a DLC where you play as Sadie and Charles during the Guarma weeks. So sad how abandon this game was by Rockstar because of GTA Online. I subbed, great video. I have about the same view to sub rate as you even though I only have about 1/10th your Sub count.

I want red dead redemption 2 directors cut✊

I think Rockstar maybe wanted the game to start at Colter because the ramp of difficulty that the game had was near perfect, and it would be hard to have a bank heist at Black Water and being easy, like every other bank heist in the game. It’s difficult, so it that would make total sense in how it was cut from the game.

Never knew those parts of the map existed mate, excellent analysis!

I'm more than satisfied with the finished product.

Thank you for taking the time to go into so much detail 🙏

You bring up valid points and I think your theory is correct. I do not care how the game started, but it would have been cool to have these areas available for exploration later. The player could have tied the story to the locations themselves.

It would of been so dope to See the Black Water Massacre in The Game W Video Keep it up.

It’s possible that Dutch sent some of the gunmen to use dynamite to cause rockslides to block off pursuit. I’ve been hoping for a Prologue: Blackwater with Mac Callander as the protagonist and restricted to West Elizabeth for a long time. Doesn’t look like it’ll be happening though

I LOVE the fact ur channel name is dedicated to a rdr2 mystery

It would’ve been so cool to have those paths being open for you to go over there. Besides using the drunk glitch at the edge of the left side of New Austin

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It would have been nice to have some dialogue From Davey Callander before he died at the start of chapter 1

always fascinating to see cut content like this but in my opinion i think this getting cut was for the better, it wouldve dragged on too long chapter 1 was already long enough

I don't see how it could possibly have been worse than the saint denis bank job, yet you can go back to saint denis afterwards.

To be honest I would have really liked this to be in game, but I know how today gamers are, they would cry the hell out because "the game is too slow" at the beginning, thing that already happens with the standard prologue

I wonder if we were supposed to be John at first and then Arthur but the devs didn’t want to do that switcheroo?

just west of emerald station and north of the train tracks is a farm that I get my ox & cow skins from. & Just north of that farm I think is what looks like the aftermath of a landslide. I'm not 💯 on that, I could be wrong.✌️

this is amazing

I never understand the idea of people wanting the next game to end at the Blackwater massacre. It makes no sense since RDR2 takes place probably a day or right after it. How tf would the epilogue work? People suggest you play as Arthur Morgan at the end but then it will just be RDR2, what? What about a game that takes place during the early days of the gang OR a new story that takes place during the peak of the Wild West.

There is a whole section of the map you cant access called tempest rim near ambarino too. Im fairly certain there was supposed to be somethings that were to happen there but it was cut

chapter 1 was supposed to be in tempest rim

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in either the first trailer or 2nd, there is a scene where they are in black water

rockstar is definitely saving the gangs true orgins when they met each other for rdr3 and it will end with the blackwater heist and them running into the grizzlies

Someone told me on a video that it was probably to leave Players in the dark , like Arthur In one of my playthroughs I walked around blackwater as John and you could kinda guess how it played out and were the ferry was

We wouldn't have seen the blackwater massacre, but the game would've likely opened near lake Isabella.

Actually your theory isn't matching city area north in Grizzlies (town itself wasn't developed). And lots of middle developed areas in the Grizzlies, and interiors in Strawberry. So the more obvious 1st chapter scenario is: 1) the The game starts at the same place. 2) gang found some abandoned unpoliced town like Van Horn but in the mountains 3) meet O'Driscolls, fight with them 4) Arthur goes to rescue Micah, who got caught during the reconnaissance 5) train robbery. And some side missions. Also, train robbery in the 1st chapter should absorb the oil robbery, because it is pretty unmatched to chapter 2 vibes

The fact that they let a lot of the pre-lore outside the gaming experience makes me really wanna buy a book of some sort capable of explain how Van Der Linde was born until the Blackwater outbreak

Never heard of a cut Prologue before, I like to think of myself as someone who keeps up with this. Alot of rumors I heard were people were asking where Dutch kept the Blackwater Riverfairy money was at the grave of his mother which you can find in Bkackwater cemetery... maybe that was apart of the Prologue to. If I remember correctly the money they got from the robbery was 140,000? The idea was that money would set the gang up for good. The funny thing is I donated to the camp funds over a million times with millions of dollars and we still never made it to Tahiti 😂😂😒.

More evidence: 1) Pre-release screenshots & trailer footage that shows the gang in Great Plains & Blackwater 2) Story logic. There's Chapters 1-6 and an Epilogue, but oddly no Prologue? 3) Dialogue from Hosea in Chapter 2 states that "we had locations scouted out in New Austin (for a new camp)". This would likely have been a mission which introduces Arthur to NA, after which he could free roam in that area. Thus why he has specific drawings for POIs, Legendary Animals & Fish, and can complete A Test of Faith, all of which are inaccessible for him in the main game. 4) Narrative progression. The game revolves around the gang setting up, then having to flee due to being chased by Milton & the Pinkertons. This is for two reasons: the Blackwater Massacre, and Cornwall funding them after they rob his train in Chapter 1. Arthur wasn't involved in the Blackwater Ferry Heist and ensuing massacre but did come to help the gang when they were pinned down. Therefore, we can conclude that a Prologue chapter of the gang in Blackwater existed and would've let Arthur free roam in New Austin, then the massacre happens and the gang flee into the mountains, where the game starts as we know it.

It’s incredible that RDR2 was even more ambitious than what was delivered. Imagine how it would’ve been if they had the time to complete it, no cut content

neat video

I dont care what other people say about the game being fine as is, having this additional backstory would have been amazing as the characters were interesting and well written. At the very least if it wasnt included in the base game as the prologue, it should have been introduced as a DLC in the form of a flashback or recounting, like with Arthur having a drink with Kieran and telling him how the gang got to where they were now.

Starting stories in the middle of things, rather then the beginning, goes back to Homer. It makes it more interesting.

I feel like the game could’ve started with the escape from black water, not the shooting though, straight into action you know what I mean

I have no complaints with this cut content however wish they never cut the content that was supposed to be in Guarma and added more content in New Austin

That part could be saved for the rdr3

It's similar to Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear phantom pain, it could be because both games like RDR2 and Phantom pain are meeting the Quotas so the result was it was a rushed game

Red dead redemption 3 is gonna be wild

I would have loved to see a Prologue. Imsgine seeing Arthur crying over his dead son 😊

Its going to be rdr3!!!!! We keep going back in time in each game

i swear if one day time travel one day is real I'll make this be implemented, and yes i believe in multiverse theory

just adding a few stuff of what I know or theories. btw good video. I like the fact that you mentioned the part of the map that happens in the opening scene is actually a hidden part. basically the map of RDR2 went through many many changes. the dev said it themselves that before the release the actually moved a lot of the mountains and whatnot for some reason. it can be seen from the trailer as well if im not mistaken. also from the data diggers lots of the beta maps have been found and this video does a fantastic job at showing them. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3OEaK2tRpiM.html&ab_channel=BasementGamerBros im also guessing you either have or will make a video about Guarma as well since that places went through a bloody amount of cut content. if you look at the old maps of the game the snowy regions of the map is much larger than it is in the current game and it definitely also included the glacier cracks and the 3 lakes further down from it. even some of the loading screen images are either from the beta game or from the outer regions of the map and one in particular caught my attention which is a photo of those 6-7 trees at 5:53 above the frozen waterfall. on the image itself it has the word "thaw" written on it which could indicate something and I am somewhat convinced that this was probably the place where you could find the frozen Neanderthal. it does hurt that the area got cut so much considering how bloody detailed it is. a lot of people don't like the snow but for me thats the most fascinating part of the map. going through this website and looking at the concept arts shows how different the map was planned to be like Cumberland Forest being called Cumberland Falls and having snow BUT concept art is nothing too important because they are concepts. what is important is what is found within the game files rockstarintel.com/several-of-new-red-dead-redemption-2-concept-art-emerged-by-a-former-concept-artist/ yeah kind of a long read but I love these stuff for some reason. sad to see so much cut content. I've explored soooo many parts of the outter maps even gotten inside the glacier cracks using glitches.

Does nobody know that if you go to the start of Arthur’s journal they explain the black water heist.

If we ever get RDR3 I hope it’s another prequel so we can see the early days of the Van Der Linde gang and have the ending as the Blackwater Massacre. Maybe after GTA 6 🤔.

" Rockstar did this intentionally." Rockstar: " Yeah!.... We sure did...."

Now this was just on the Internet don’t trust it fully. I don’t even trust it, but apparently you were supposed to be able to go into Canada and if you think about it where the game starts it’s outside of the border and if I’m correct, that’s where Canada is, so maybe the camp that was talked about a lot in concept, art was where you was supposed to stay and then admission were you’d have to go scout out and then you leave coulter and then a cussing place and then that’s when chapter 1 officially starts off that’s just a little theory on my own or how it would work if the Canada theory or if the content with Canada and the old camp in snowy mountains happened

it reminds me of zoopopia where we would have had a more hardcore story but it was scraped. stuff like this makes the originals lame when you realize they had a vision of a wider lens .

The missing prologue will probably be the ending scenes of RDR3

They really need a current gen update. This game runs like shit compared to damn near every other game.

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I wish we could of done the blackwater heist and see it all play out with our own eyes

Makes me sad how much cut content rdr2 especially in the snow. There is so much done in the outside of the map that we dont see sadly , im sure they intended to use a lot of the map considering how well modeled it is.