As a longtime Queens resident and someone who knows the area I doubt it exists. First off there are no subway grates anywhere around 76th and Pitkin and second the area looks very suburban - more like Valley Stream or Elmont than a neighborhood on the Brooklyn Queens border. I think the IND had planned to build it as part of their "Second System" but instead connected the subway to the Queens portion of the Fulton elevated as it was a lot less expensive. The branch to the Rockaways was recaptured from the LIRR just as the Fulton st El was recaptured from the BMT. With the exception of the Culver Viaduct - the IND did not build any elevated stations. All of the elevated stations on current IND routes (other than Smith & 9th and 4th Ave, both on the Culver Viaduct) were recaptured from the BMT or the LIRR.
I propose an IND Ocean Parkway Line to bring the IND to Coney Island via a true IND viaduct. The IND Ocean Parkway Line should run elevated after the Church Avenue Station.
Your absolutely right I said this to myself while watching the video. I live off pitkin Ave and was amazed that the Fulton elevated extended past Euclid Ave. I did research and noticed to that they kept 80th St Hudson etc elevated stations up maybe to cut cost and used the old LIRR part for the Rockaway park A. So they didn't have to use or make an 76th st station.
I lived in Manhattan for 8 years. Took the subway to work everyday. However, one night after an office party in midtown, I dozed off on the 5 express heading home. Woke up at Union Square and between Union square the train slowed on the way to my stop on Wall St. I saw the abandoned 18th Street station. Kinda similar to this story. At Brooklyn Bridge / City Hall, I stayed on the 6 local as it turned around under Broadway and I saw the abandoned yet still beautiful old City Hall station.
@@70stvtool There is an (abandoned) 18th St. station on the line, and also an abandoned Worth St. (not 8th St.) station. Astor Place station is basically at 8th St.
@@bxdanny Worth st!! That’s IT!!!! Thanks for the clarification. I thought there was an 18th too. I’ve seen so many when we slow or stop in the tunnels for congestion “police activity”. I would love to safely walk those lines and see these. Also I don’t know for sure but isn’t there reminisce of the old pneumatic system between city hall and chambers east to west? I was able to walk the old “President’s” line from grand central to the Waldorf.
I’ve been down in the 18th street station. The pad lock on the street was busted for years. When the trains were stretched from 8 cars to ten , they shut a bunch of stations . In the case of the 18th expanding the platforms for union square and 23rd str and 18 would have made one continuous long platform.
Es gibt drei Punkte, die gegen die Existenz der 76. Straße-Station sprechen. 1. Bei 8'55 steht im Gleisplan unten rechts etwas von einer zukünftigen Steuerung der Signale. Gibt es jüngere Gleispläne, nach denen die Anlage je in Betrieb war? Falls nein, gab es den Ausbau nicht. 2. war es nicht unüblich, die ganzen Signale bereits einzubauen, daher zeigen sie auf die Endwand im Tunnel. 3. wäre es verkehrstechnisch nicht sehr sinnvoll. Praktisch nebenan gibt es ja bereits eine Hochbahnstrecke. Umsteigen wäre hier nur mit einem längeren Fußweg möglich.
It's most likely that the station was planned, possibly work started, but it was never put into services because the Transit Authority decided to link the line up with the Fulton Street el instead.
I’ve seen SubChat discussions that talk about 76th street and one of them shows photos of old newspaper clippings that seem to point to the construction of the 76th street station. One of these discussions said that only the southbound platform had tiles installed and other people on that same discussion have said that there are no rails in the tunnels leading up to this supposed station, based on what some old workers and police officers have claimed. But nothing close to a completed, operational station. I personally think there *might* be something beyond those walls. Maybe a shell of a station and/or more tunnel does exist past the walls, but there just isn’t enough evidence to prove it. Someone needs to get a ground penetrating radar so that they can see if it detects an open space that fits the profile of a subway station below the 76th Street station area. But if the station is real and gets discovered, I would have it turned into either a branch of the Transit Museum, or an MTA-themed restaurant.
@@bennythepenny5831 I agree, although I’m not sure it would be possible with the size of most cars nowadays. Even though many cars can fit through the loop they’re unable to align with the platform well, or at least safely. Maybe an extension could be added to the current Brooklyn Bridge/City Hall station which lets commuters visit the original station and watch the 6 train as it loops uptown?
Euclid Avenue tower as well as Pitkin Yard tower have the station at 76th street on their board. The 3rd rail power board also has the station. Two trackways would also lead from Pitkin Yard to a wall that would suggest 76th street existed.
Between 86th St and 96th St on the 1, 2, and 3 lines is the 91st St station. The 1 is local and makes 91st St easy to see, as it was built to be a local station; the platforms are at the sides instead of between the tracks. It can be seen from the 2 or 3 as well but, it will blur by as the 2 or 3 goes (well, supposed to go) express from 96th to 72nd Sts. 91st St still has some lights, as it is sometimes used as an improvised staging area for tools and equipment to repair tracks. The 1 train between 137th St and 145th has a similar area, not a station but, extra track bits to store extra trains and equipment.
The existence of a marker for 76th St. on a board is not evidence of the station's existence, but might indicate that they started to plan for it and the tracks seen up until that wall are the only tracks there.
As someone who has grown up and still lives in brooklyn for 54 years. It sure looks like their was a 76th Street station. A few train lines had their last stops closed for some reason. The L train had another one or two stops after Rockaway Parkway many years ago I saw on an old Subway map. Those signal lights definitely look like a train ran through there, and if it didn't, that wall would be solid cement, not cinderblocks. The MTA used cinderblock most of the time back in the days to cover up or seal something up. I can bet money if a few of those cinderblocks were knocked down, you would see the rest of that tunnel leading to 76th Street Station. I love finding out about things like this. I think the NYC Subway system is fascinating especially because it was built so many years ago. Many of the stations in Manhattan are incredibly huge underground. Their like mazes underground with shops. Lol. I love it.😊
Others mentioned the neccessary infrastructure like grates aren't there. If there is something beyond there it's probably a short empty tunnel and if there's tracks it doesn't go very far.
Your best bet is make a appointment with the New York City Transit Museum archive department and inquire about the 76th street station. The staff would probably be more than happy answer your request ! As a retired motorman B-division A and F line this is even new to me ? The lay up tracks are used as part of pitkin yard and I’ve walked these tracks to prepare trains for service but never has conversations stated a station is beyond the concrete wall. Interesting…
As a former NY resident and rapid transit aficionado, dating back to the late 50's,,I had no idea about this "station" until really just recently..past 2 yrs!!.. Went by this very location taking IND "A train" R10 subway cars a number of times, back in the 60's!! Always loved the way the Grant Ave station "climbs out" of its subway surroundings, shortly after the station platform gives way to daylight, as that "portal" lets trains climb their way onto the curving elevated structure, gently turning on over Liberty Ave, City Line/Ozone Park! Hoping researchers will find the answers they're seeking out!!
I rode through Grant Ave. in the late 1950s with my father on a Far Rockaway shuttle train from Euclid Ave. and always wondered why that station was finished differently from the others. The connection was made to the elevated structure on Liberty Ave. in April 1956 at the Brooklyn-Queens border as before the Dual Contracts the BRT had an agreement with the LIRR not to serve Queens with elevated trains. The Jamaica line terminated at Cypress Hills before it was extended to Jamaica around the same time.
exactly ... nice to hear from you and i agree ... but i have more or lets say other theories about ol '76 .. i know we can enjoy a coffee or 2 over discussion - - RR
Just generally speaking, what incentive does the MTA have to lie about its existence? The presence of it on some boards means little at best, since there is no dispute they planned on having it.
As a kid in the 70s and 80s I used to explore under grant Ave and I can tell you there is what looks like the making of a subway station with a empty space between the tracks for a platform with the entrance in the train yards
i know that Grant on the A train has a Lower Level known as the Layup Yard for Graffiti Artist/Writers yet i dont think it leads to the 76 Lower Level...the 76 Abandoned spot is completely sealed & no way to go in
There’s nothing behind the wall. People keep trying to dig out the dirt which puts the street above at risk of collapsing. The dirt should stay behind the wall.
Also note this is shown on the model board at Pitkin Yard and Euclid Avenue Station. I've discovered a lot of of provisions and abandoned areas working down here but 76 St is the most interesting.
@@nicobknyc abandoned spaces are of the 149 St-Grand Concourse station are becoming visible again due to construction of the elevators. Contractors use these spaces as rooms to put stuff together
It's there... something about the station being too short. It's always good to talk to the people that was here before you there's so much history to find. Plus MTA is the cover up king it'll be newly discovered again soon
This gave me flashbacks when I use to go bombing throughout the lay-ups on liberty, van sicken, shepherd, grant and the Pitkin yard back in the 80’s. I use to live at the projects above van sicken ave. I use to get in the lay-ups through the vent shafts a Pitkin and ashford or just sneak in my station and go in through the platform. Those were good times. 👍
Great story. In addition to that, there are quite a few stations all over the 4 big boroughs. During my youth, there was a line connecting between the F line at Ditmas Ave in Brooklyn to the D line at 9th Avenue. It has been disassembled. There is another unused line in Manhattan, (underground), around Canal St., Between the N/Q lines and the famous 6 line. Finally, the most amazing line that was bricked up by the (those days) workers as a protest of wage reduction. In fact, they bricked up a few cars. The location is: Court St. & Livingston St. vicinity in Brooklyn. Ssshhh, don't tell anyone, but there are quite a few more!
sweeeet ... and a time capsule yet to be opened will reveal all the secrets ,, i would like to share in a discussion about these topics,, anytime .. please respond
1) Great video! 2) As someone that grew up in Queens and went to high school in Brooklyn just over the BK/Qns border not too far from the alleged station, I found it fascinating when I first heard about this station supposedly being there. 3) After initially believing that it existed as I had known there were many plans scrapped or halted while in process, I am now of the belief it never existed. Why? A) There is absolutely no way a subway station could have been built without public records, press coverage, community opposition, etc. The IND Fulton St. Line was not extended to connect with the Liberty Ave. line until the 1950s. No way tracks would have been built underground without the public knowing as the area was developed. The noise alone under that neighborhood would have prompted residents to report to authorities and the media. B) The station would have existed in the middle of nowhere! Stations, especially a terminal station, built that late (1950s) would have been placed in an area with stores, buildings, etc. and not just houses. * My overall opinion is that the tracks, signals, etc. were constructed simply for provisions for an extension and nothing was ever completed.The wall that exists is more than likely just to prevent things like flooding and ambitious folks from getting lost in "the abyss".
There is also a rumor that there is a branch from the Atlantic Avenue station going 500 feet under the Narrows for a future line to Staten Island. Supposedly the line was killed by Robert Moses who hated the subway.
I'm a transit enthusiast from Chile, so I may not know much about New York and it's surroundings and how everything works, but a myth like this feels like something perfect for an ARG or a horror story. If it's true or not, there is a lot of mistery here and it just feels like a perfect setting for a conspiracy or something related to the SCP Foundation (for example). Great video.
.. exactly ! now check this ,, those wall doorway size cutouts opposite the platform ... yeah, what do you think they are for? i am referring to Grant Station
These should be the new stations via the IND Fulton Street Line extension to Cambria Heights-229th Street under Pitkin Avenue & Linden Boulevard: Ⓜ️ 76th Street Ⓜ️ 84th Street Ⓜ️Cross Bay Boulevard Ⓜ️ Hawtree Street Ⓜ️ Aqueduct Road Ⓜ️ Rockaway Boulevard Ⓜ️ Lefferts Boulevard Ⓜ️ 126th Street Ⓜ️ Van Wyck Boulevard Ⓜ️ 144th Street Ⓜ️ Sutphin Boulevard Ⓜ️ Brewer Boulevard Ⓜ️ Merrick Boulevard Ⓜ️ 178th Street Ⓜ️ Farmers Boulevard Ⓜ️ 200th Street Ⓜ️ Nashville Boulevard Ⓜ️ 221st Street Ⓜ️ Cambria Heights-229th Street
It’s nice to see a new Gen doing this I still live in Manhattan but we would check these old stations out in the 80s as kids and we found ones with old ads still on the walls like smoker ads and stuff from the 1970s really cool stuff
I grew up on Nostrand Avenue near Quentin Road during the 1960s and 1970s. There really was a serious plan to extend the IRT line, as it was then called, from Nostrand and Flatbush Avenues, as far as Avenue U or even down to Sheepshead Bay. I even remember surveyors with their surveyors transits right in front of my building, laying the groundwork prior to start of construction. It would have been a great convenience to those neighborhoods, however the fiscal crisis of the '70s meant cancelation of the project... nothing was actually built.
It was supposed to be the 2/3 instead of the 2/5 going to Emmons ave with the 2 being local. The 4 was supposed to extend either down Utica to kings plaza OR turn down avenue S to marine park. There was also a plan to have the 2 turn down marine parkway ( it's the only 4 lane street in the area) and meet the 4 at a proposed yard above the park
Great video. I like finding out about abandoned or never built stations. I've always been curious about the abandoned station on the 1,2,3 line between 86 and 96.
The 91st street station (the abandoned station you’re referring to), was in use when the train cars were shorter. It was abandoned because they determined that they didn’t need a station only five blocks apart, and kept 96th and 86th. You can see 91st from the 123 trains if you know what to look for
@@emmahughes2718 Emma, I was waiting for NicoBK's video on the topic. I know I could have researched it myself but I really like these kinds of videos especially when accompanied with maps and visuals. Thanks for the info though.
My thought is, if it was never built, it was probably under active consideration, given the interlocking machine panel and the signal diagrams. Those General Railway Signal panels were custom-made with engraver's board, so after-the-fact additions were unheard of (except with white paint which didn't match the engraved names, numbers, and track diagram) and deletions were handled with black electrical tape as shown.
It was built and it was non-union workers build it and 76th station is there. However my dad who retired from MTA NYC subway told me it's double walled in the tunnel the first wall you see where the track end and the second wall like a few meters another wall was built and in between it was filled with some kind of sand and dirt
@@watershed44 yes it's possible or at the Hole not far From there and the last Time anyone was inside that tunnel past the block brick 🧱 was July or August of 1984 when the door on the block 🧱 was removed and sealed
@@DARTHBLUNT713 Just the fact that the city went to so much trouble obfuscating and being quiet about the existence makes me wonder. Perhaps there are more dead bodies back there?
@@watershed44 from a few old timers who used to work at the Pitkin yards told me yes it was used by the Italian Mobsters who used to dumped bodies at the Hole and the tunnels at 76th station shell and by May to August of 1984 was the door on the block 🧱 was removed and completely sealed including the 2 emergency exit from the tunnel and and I forgot the street name not far from Grant Ave station that has a manhole cover seal and paved over. The only way to get inside of it by the bricks block 🧱 if anyone can go past 30 feet or 10 yards of Sands by it
Guy Faux's comment made about the Roosevelt Ave. station on the E,F,M and R lines is the unbuilt connection to the proposed Winfield / Seabury line - due to the combined effects of the Great Depression and WW 2 , and there after the manipulations of one Robert Moses, the line was never built. The same can be said about the Utica Ave. line in Brooklyn, which can be seen at the same named station on the A and C lines. The abandoned station shell is in place above the in use station and is quite visible. There are many other unbuilt lines - check out the IND Second System for more information on this topic.
You should look into 59st station,there another part of it,that was never completed,I was told this by a dispatcher,when I worked as tower operator at ther 59th st master tower. I forgot what it was suppose to connect with,most likely with the Irt. But he told me others workers it was complete. You be surprised how many stations that has been started never complete or just forgotten about. Just like The Tunnel night club,which were abandoned subway tunnel that was never completed. I know it closed up years ago,have no idea what they did with it after it closed down.
Whether this story is true or not, can you imagine if they were an extension from Euclid all the way to Cambria Heights?!?!? it would be an immense relief to rush hour, congestion for any one traveling home to South East Queens
This would be a long ride from Southeast Queens through Brooklyn to midtown Manhattan. The current bus/subway combination through Jamaica would be faster except during inclement weather.
A teal question after Euclid avenue there are so many tracks only two end up at Grant Avenue also after Grant Avenue a track leads out not the middle but the side
Really interesting video! I remember researching this a lot a couple of years ago. I personally find it hard to believe that there is a whole station there, but there's definitely something behind though walls even if it's just tunnel. Hopefully, they find a reason to take a look one day!
Me too. It’s a fun little mystery and there’s probably something behind that wall but a whole station seems unlikely. It would be great if they did take a like one day!
@@eliasthienpont6330 Good point. I doubt there’s a station but maybe there’s a small tunnel? Either way, maybe there is an access point we don’t know about.
Even the known abandoned stations are accessible and visited by MTA staff for maintenance and inspection. Seems likely that there would be a locked door or some access means to reach whatever is beyond the block wall.
Yeah, even today if the transit authority announced plans to build a 76th street station from scratch, they’re really gonna be in for a logistical headache. If they did plan to build a 76th street station years ago, it’s too late now. We’ve still got the elevated tracks, and it functions really well.
Great video! On r/nycrail there was someone said the builder of public school 214 has built something underground prior to the line’s construction, which is not uncommon in that period. That user used the example of IND 8th Avenue line’s segment around 170st (also built in school’s project separately) as an example.
The only way to find out the truth and settle this theory is for someone to bring a sledge hammer 🔨 and put a hole in the bricked up wall. Just a small hole will do. Just enough to get a camera 🎥 inside for a peek.
I used 76th as an April's Fool joke. I started a thread titled FBI mafia graveyard excavation stumbles upon 76th Street Station. I thought it was funny. There really were some FBI digs around that area. Cool video. Gonna watch some more from your channel.
The signals are homeballs, or tower controlled and protect an interlocking/switches. One is a double headed mast. And it's marked X 66 which is for the tower operator to use. Pretty elaborate and indicates serious plans for extension.
This is an excellent video that tells a very pertinent story. There is great evidence that there was a possibility of a 76 Street station. The question is what is behind that gigantic wall? Why is it walled off? The answer might be that there may have been a partially constructed station that was abandoned or whereas the construction was discontinued. It is surprising that no reporter or journalist has contacted the MTA to get this clarified or confirmed? This would be a good investigative story for the TV or newspapers in New York.
It would be MOST APPROPRIATE to extend the (C) on this line while the (A) goes to Lefferts Blvd and The Rockaways. While having the Lefferts (A) extended to Rosedale via Lefferts Blvd, Rockaway Blvd and the Belt Parkway, a new (K) line would take the Lefferts Branch to Jamaica Center (from The Bronx at Bedford Park Blvd). This would leave the (C) servicing the 76th Street - Pitkin Avenue Station and extended East towards Cambria Heights. The QBL would gain an extension towards Cambria Heights from the (F) at 179th Street via Farmers Blvd and Linden Blvd (the (F) extends towards Queens Village and Bellerose, the QBL Local would extend to Cambria Heights and the (C) would also extend to Cambria Heights.
Wait, aren’t those tracks to nowhere at Grant Avenue going in the wrong direction? The station would be in between Grant and 80th, not Grant and Euclid.
I live In the Bronx. Videos on the 5 Dyre Stations would be interesting. As you probably know, the stations between 180 and Dyre were formerly a Westchester railroad. The Dyre station seems to go north beyond the station into Mount Vernon.
That should be able to build a expansion the Fulton Street Line of the IND in the near future after Second Avenue Subway completion. That's make sense.
The answer is 76 Street station does not exist and was never built; the land East of Elderts Lane past Euclid Avenue is below the water table which means it would have been much more costly to build in order to prevent water intrusion. The tunnels were backfilled to prevent flooding. The same tunnel condition exists between Rockaway and Ralph Avenue stations. Provisions sure were made though.
How hard would it be for someone to simply walk down the tracks and take note of and photograph the various stations they came across? Especially in places where they are suspected to have previously been or are reported to be partially completed? Yes I realize being on the tracks is dangerous but I also believe there's sufficient with in the tunnels to do it safely so that you don't get run over by incoming Subway trains. Seems like it would be a pretty simple modern archaeological expedition to simply pack a backpack and head off down the rails with your eyes and ears open. Maybe even with a small powered bike, skateboard or scooter of some kind to pass the longer distances. I am 100% sure that there are many thousands of people that have done exactly this and are living in these Grand spaces, with largely free utilities right underneath the feet of people struggling to afford a one-bedroom apartment on the streets above.
I like how you had 60 Subs when I watched this video and now you got over 200 Subs. Good Job and Good luck on the future, also nice video, I have heard about the 76 St Station but I didn't understand it much
@@nicobknyc I think there is a tunnel separation after 63 Dr-Rego Park in the Northbound local track which was supposed to connect the QBL to the Rockaway Beach Branch which was an abandoned LIRR line for subway service
Could you do videos on how every NYC Subway route could be extended? Please start with the (1) & go up every number until you go through every letter. I would love to see your amazing ideas!
I prefer the Fulton Street Subway Line, as the 76th Street Station should be either built or restored to serve my proposed extension. The {ACE} should serve that extension.
I'm not saying there's nothing there. But I'm an underground utility engineer in NYC and have access to all the gas maps from the late 1800's to now. On my maps, I see absolutely nothing there. I can however see things that indicate the active tunnel under Eldert & Pitkin. I have a project at Pitkin yard that has been frozen for a few years. If it starts up again, I'll ask the yard superintendent what he thinks.
Interesting! I think it's likely there's nothing or at least isn't much there, I made this video mostly to help explain what's probably just an urban legend. who knows though! if you ever ask him about it tell me what he thinks!
Number one it's against the law, number two you can get electrocuted, number three there are rats down there, number four there are vagrance down there, you never know what you're going to find in the New York City Tunnel. the last time I walked a tunnel with a friend of mine we both had guns.
I know on the 90s I used to be heavy on doing graffiti and doing the tunnels somewhere in chinatown we ended up in an abandone station down there I dont remember too well we were high and drunk but there were homeless people living down there and everything, also on 96st on the 1 line we went to a station graffiti artists call "ghost city" and you can still see it from the train windows if the train goes slow and even going fast but slow you can see it better🤷🏽
