Exploring the unfinished version hidden in the game files of Chapter 2 - Poppy Playtime 

LOL

And final game still had her “old” animation but same time the final mommy long legs appeared as normal animation. That’s known as double mommy long legs bug.

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@@lishantong9742 I want video

and then gets absorbed by the machine then turned into a monkey soup

I thought it sounded familiar.

Yes! I thought the same thing, that distorted brass really sounded similar to parts of Everywhere At The End Of Time. Of course they knew what they were doing lmao.

Man… sure reminds me of some old album i listened too. If i remember at best I can, it was by a fellow named The Caretaker. YEAH! They wrote some old timey music… i think…

That's what I was thinking about it's playing anywhere at the end of time

for those who are wondering which song of the album it is 'And heart breaks' at 1:27:33

I agree it good

Gives me a much bigger understanding on whats next to come, and gives more clues that poppy might just be the daughter, though its still a theory

On one hand, I like how it gives us a better idea of Poppy as a character, she's definitely coming across as more of an antihero than a villain in this version. She knows she's being selfish, but clearly just wants to end the suffering that Playtime Co has caused. I especially find it interesting that they edited the line "I can't let you leave, yet" to just "I can't let you leave." I can't see Poppy keeping the protagonist hostage after she completes her goal. I would think she'd want to pass on as well. And I can't see her causing the protagonist any harm, espeically since if she did, they'd be another victim, more blood on her hands, and based on her tone, it's very clear she's regretful of all the sacrifices that were made to bring her to life. I also find it interesting and sad to hear that the co-workers of the protagonist are dead and have been for a while. That does beg the question, however. Were the coworkers killed before or after it was sent? And if it was before, then who sent the letter? Certainly not Poppy, maybe there's another person working on our side that we haven't even seen yet. Of course this could be scrapped because Poppy's going to be a more antagonistic character, but I like to think it's actually because it just gives away a lot of exposition and is pretty damn long. If I were In the ending cutscene, with nothing to do but sit and listen to Poppy talk, It would feel like a major exposition dump, rather than a natural speech. But the og version, while vauge, really worked in shifting the tone from one of calm victory, to concern, and finally panic as the train starts to go off the rails, as well as tease a bit of what's to come. For people interested in the plot (like me), it's quite a good info dump!

Something a Karen would do

Its like people who will pretend someone hit them and fall over and start screaming on camera

Ooh! This looks interesting. What does this do? *Sticks her hand in the grinder* AAAAAH!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?! *shoves inside the grinder* HE'LL MAKE ME A PART OF HIM!!!!! YOU... CAN'T... DO THIS TO ME!!!!!!!!

Idk why but its kinda satisfying to watch mommy get crushed- Sorry lol

Introducing "Mommy Long Legs: Insurance Fraud"

i love those types of scenes lol

It looks like a room in danganronpa

Nice reference.

from where is that qoute?

yeah where is it from

its from the movie "The Amazing Bulk" which is an obvious rip-off of the hulk, the scene in question is at the end of the film where bulk has to run to some place far away and they just mash all the stock footage leftover into it, the quote comes from the title of a popular video of the scene called "We are almost at the end of the movie, and we haven't even used all of our stock-footage yet." and the description says "Just mash it all in the final sequence. I'm sure you can make sense of it somehow."

@@redboy6314 i didn't even know the description said that i just saw the video in my recommended once lol

oversize*

@@0oh_no "yo mama SO fat..."

@@0oh_no No, oversight idiot. They’re talking about how their sight went over the fact that the wheelchair might be too big.

oversight** also oversight=an unintentional failure to notice or do something. "he had simply missed Parsons out by an oversight"

@@tropii_4352 meant it as a joke 👍

@ThatCattieroGuy There even used to be a "silly" bug where UE4 games would refuse to launch if you had a VR headset plugged in because the game would always try to go in VR mode. I can't believe that a game engine could have such a dumb issue built in

Golly gee I wonder why it’s rushed

@@kodicraft Or some very much non vr games would force boot my mixed reality headset causing my computer to slow down for a easy to run game and break visually.

@@kodicraft i still cant play the joy of creation for this reason its odd but i guess not enough people had vr headsets to report it as a serious issue

Yeah I am pretty sure they didn't know this was in here because the youtuber BijuuMike accidentally opened this version instead of the main game and they had no clue on how he did what he did, and you can see it on his first video of the playthrough

is that ingame or did spiff add it? also i really like eateot

Bro I've been hearing Heartache every where since I've listened to that album. Legit can't escape it

I knew it was caretaker I started.. idk I got very uneasy

I was just about to comment somthing simmilar to this, as it was a shock to hear it I was like "wait is that?" then it hit me, and it was

It actually isn’t the original song, it’s a reproduction by the devs which knowing them was for shady reasons

*heartbreaks starts playing *

They forgor

*a*

Glad I wasn’t the only one that noticed it lol- I had this playing in the background and I’m like “waitwaitwaitwait I recognize that trauma”

Speaking of forgot, its cool that in the early version, the statues song was its just a burning memory

I feel like they changed it because game theory called it, but I dunno.

maybe she still is good but they wanted it to be more like secret and think shes bad idk

@@renownerd.276 The old speech doesn′t necessarily contradict anything the established lore already shows, so I don′t think they changed it because of Game Theory.

@@renownerd.276 My guess is that they changed it to play more with the mystery but left that in the files for people to discover and theorize about. That way they are free to continue with that line (or not) later if they want, but without having to fully commit yet.

@Rosie game theory really got me into the lore of fnaf, I’m sad that you think that 😞

Hitbox moment. Whenever I am making a first person game with no player body I always make a bean boi for the hitbox

Interesting...

That's probably why the music in the game freaks me out so much- I have some traumas associated with the music from EATEOT (and The Caretaker's work in general) so learning that was their inspiration for their music makes a lot of sense. Also goes to show they did a damn good job of replicating the style of that album.

I was thinking that! It totally has those vibes.

@@rtay_ how tf did a music album traumatize you? like, actual question.

@@rapidmagic0705 "associated with", probably songs that are associated with traumatic events and not the songs traumatizing OP themselves. Like losing a loved one from dementia, for example.

yeah as soon as i heard the title music for chapter one i thought "what is this discount heartaches?" and then they just straight up used stage 2's version, it doesn't even make sense (to me, I'm probably missing something) but isn't this supposed to bendy and the ink machine, but instead of the 1920s its the 1970s/1980s

I agree Poppy is nice but then is like “I *need* you”

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I think they want to make the players think that Poppy is evil, so they changed it in the final version

@@dangamertop9253 that would be why, yeah, i saw a theory recently that all toys have 2 personalities, a playful and an evil which is mostly indicated by their eyes(mommy’s eyes getting black at the end when she’s on the hunt) and they noticed that poppy’s eyes were bigger after you saved her, as if it wasn’t the poppy from earlier

@@thedarknut2997 personally I don't think the toys have evil split personalities, because Mommy Long Legs happily threatened/endangered the player of her own free will before the chase scene, but something could definitely be manipulating them or making them more aggressive.

they said they removed it because it "spoils" important story info, so she's probably good but trying to keep you so you can help them

@@saehtnyS well now it is spoiled for everyone that watched the video so

For real tho like in game the pugapillar jumpscare is very simple. I didn’t expect all the theatrics

It reminds me of the pogchamp face personally

grrrrrrrr his name is spiff not astral 🤬😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

@@turtleboi456 NO ONE CARES because they didn't know that

@@naomisanimated_toons1804 they were joking, notice the extensive emojis?

Yeah, I'm kinda hoping the devs see this video and change it back, that one is way better than the final version.

@@danielm.595 it’s better but it definitely breaks the “show don’t tell” rule. it’s too much exposition. i do like how much nicer she is in the early build though

@@missdarling7806 yeah, they made her sound too evil in the final version

@@danielm.595 From what I saw, she was nice/polite when you first meet her, but I guess after seeing Mommy again she got PTSD from when Mommy mistreated her so she went sicko mode at the end.

WHAT THE FUCK 153 LIKES???????

I've had several people try to convince me to get into programming since I am very interested in the details of how games (especially old ones) work, and all I can think of is how often this sort of thing happens.

Oh how wrong he was. How very, very, *VERY* wrong

Especially with the "wake up" line from Poppy at the start of the chapter

@@lamplight404 true

Just right after that, you can hear the same sound effect played at the end of the Elliot Ludwig VHS tape

BEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@kezottle Dang, I never noticed that.

Lol RU-vid says that this comment was posted 2 hrs ago but the video was posted 1 hr ago

@@BimSkimbles magic

Spiff’s videos are my go to nap time videos

Fr I’ll just do homework or nap with videos on bc I like background noise and then I’ll just watch it again later

I wish I could fall asleep in 33 minutes

Yeah I agree with you on that

Yeah my favorite part in the whole video

Makes sense to me

Some pointed out the red liquid next to the toys are the Poppy flower's "juice" and not actual blood.

@@theotv5522 what is that?

@@user-he8nj6fy7p I don't know if I'm taking it the wrong way, but poppy flowers are where opium comes from and opium is used to produce other opiates, medically used to relieve pain. Seeing as experimentation is very common in the lore, the use of poppy derived narcotics is obvious.

Don't give the devs ideas, they might be watching-

@@LevenLappi Nah devs too busy resolving their pety RU-vid drama.

@@LevenLappi Yeah, but was kind of lazy they didn't make Mommy chace you or that they just locked ways with spider webs instead of making actual places for hidding from her or left dead ends when she was chasing you, so disapointing.

@@adr1x_x948 not really but ok lmao

@@adr1x_x948 it’s a chase lmao not hiding

I think they changed it to be more vauge. This one is more explicit about the lore and gives a better understanding of Poppy's motivations and what's going on.

@@jarrethoglesbee4596 Yeah, unfortunately they kind of killed the writing quality for the sake of vagueness. The final version lacks any trait of coherence, being composed of harsh sentences barely connected to each other. I just can't take it seriously when it tries so hard to be mysterious. This version of the speech feels much more satisfying and actually hooks the player to the story, leaving them interested to see what's next.

@@namity1305 too much info tho

@@namity1305 yeah, if something is _too_ vague it just becomes boring/annoying since there's no reason to care. "Fear of the unknown, so spooky, wooo" only takes you so far. Hopefully the next chapters expand on the actual current story a bit, the lore is fine but they're leaning on it a bit too much.

@@star-rock6466 Yeah, it revealed a bit too much honestly, it's probably for the best, sure they maybe went a bit too vague. It's a VERY difficult balance to give players enough information to keep them interested, but not so much that it kills all of the mystery. They needed to get a better balance of vagueness and information.

Mommy waifu uwu

@@mysterymastermind175 OwO what's this? An army of mommies?

Mommy issues would be resolved if that was the case

The orphans will be so happy...oh wait...

@@mysterymastermind175 seek immediate help

Agreed. That info really works for being ludwigs daughter and then when he passed the other scientists kept wanting to see how far they could take it and make the perfect human like dolls, so they kept experimenting after having success with poppy.

that makes a lot of sense considering she is a circus baby ripoff according to the creator himself

so like william afton and his daughter?

Game theory

@@kate-os5ww Not surprising, with what they did to Baby in that Don't Come Crying Animation and all.

"Orphan 1006"

who is Gregory

@@bob-frfr from fnaf security breach I think

@@bob-frfr I was talking about the protag of Security Breach, Gregory, who managed to literally set the whole mall the game took place in fire

gregory is a serial arsonist

the song is question is "and heart breaks"

the actual song title is Heartaches

the actual song title is Heartaches

Most likely the song was there as a sorta "hey composers here's the song we want to emulate"

The song used is from Stage 3 of Everywhere at the End of Time, "And Heart Breaks". "Just a Burning Memory" and "And Heart Breaks" both sample Al Bowly's "Heartaches", but are different songs. They likely couldn't use it in the full build, since they didn't have any contact with Leyland Kirby (the Caretaker) so it'd be a violation of copyright, I'm pretty sure. I know EATEOT & some of Kirby's other music has been used in those analog horror series, which Poppy takes "inspiration" from, which explains why they used it as a placeholder.

@@leilanpad9638 its just a burning memory is a remake of Heartaches to make it sound more disturbing it also has no vocals

I was about to say

Ikr lol

oh yeah they did

wow. im kinda glad they changed it

@@willzsocial same, the song is good on its own but using it in PP is kinda weird XD

Since it didn't make it to the final release, does that mean it's not part of the lore anymore?

@@BimDaTitanicNerd it’s honestly a toss up because it wasn’t in the actual game.

@@yoitsdeath Not exactly, they know for certain that people that love lore in games would datamine them or search for anything in other sources aside just playing the game normaly, so hiding stuff in an easily available prototype version of the game would be nice for the 'lore hunters'.

It's so similar that I, not knowing the original song, and only having watched a single playthrough when it first came out, didn't even notice a difference until it was mentioned

Lorge brain

The wall that lost it's collision though LMAO

@@nervehammer1 Hey maybe they accidentally forgot to unselect it when deleting an object and deleted the collision mesh by accident.

@@cookiecreeperplayz I have low experience in Unreal Engine. But you can change Object Assets. But I have no idea why that wall only have no collision while other using the same asset with collision.

It's weird cause they obviously know how to do it. The settings on chapter 1 worked perfectly from day one.

She trained wisely in the arts of initial D

I guess that's the reason why they don't use it

it basically confirms the SuperHorrorBro's theory

@@peeka_ I really hope they didn't change stuff just because of theorists. That almost never goes well.

@@errortryagainlater4240 i suspect they realized they were revealing too much of the plot at once (and also breaking the show don't tell "rule")

*The TF2 Coconut.jpg*

@@The-Branch The coconut is used for a taunt and does not break the game when deleted. In fact, you can delete virtually every texture and the game will still run, albeit with a lot of black-purple checkerboards.

@@Ze_eT I assume you’ve also seen that shounic video?

@@sirapple589 most likely

Tf2 cow

I hate to nitpick but the name of the album is “Everywhere at the End of Time” and the artist is The Caretaker

@@Lainferno and the song is and heart breaks

I always thought it was a coincidence that the music in this part of the finished game sounded similar to something you would hear in stage 1 of everywhere at the end of time but I guess not. It’s cool to know the demo song was just heartaches.

@@Lainferno If we're really being nitpicky, the song is called Heartaches and the artist is Al Bowlly

Or you can just be like me and call it "the dementia music"

Seriously, freaky asf.

How old are you

@@TheSonOfRyan Who wants to know, skeleboi?

@@wobblewokgaming655 because if you're old enough to be on RU-vid, being disturbed by anything in playtime is embarrassing

@@TheSonOfRyan it's called an opinion. And this is a video game involving child experimentation, so yeah, it's disturbing.

I love don’t starve. Glad you enjoy !

@@AstralSpiff Yeah it’s lots of fun, we had a good time, no problem man 👍

It’s true, I was the friend. Horrible being awake rn but I must watch anyways

Source Engine Console Menu Intensifies

Fun fact: that music is from half life alyx, which also has a train crash caused by pulling a lever.

Me too

@@radial8955 oh YEAH

I like some aspects of it like the “they’ve been gone for a long time, terrible things have happened “ and “so much is unknown to you” cause they obviously hint at the story and kinda call back to the letter but i kinda prefer the villain tone from the released game Edit: nvm I think thise lines might be in the released version but both versions are cool

we gotta get josh on this game. Hell give us the answers we desire

*framerate proceeds to break*

“Time to play my favorite game: is there a limit?”

25:11 is just perfect 😂

WHAT

PLEASE OMG TELL ME

Already? Damn modders are quick

Sorry I'm late to clarify (5 hours jezus) but go check out ToastedShoes for the mod, he mixed a bunch of others in too

@@Sandra-faith B O N K

As a novice programmer Yes

And we are impatient

It could also be because the devs wanted to make sure it made it to the end of the maze without problems so they made it faster for the dev build and simply reverted it back for the final build once they had it working.

@@cookiecreeperplayz that too

No, game engines like Unreal typically use something called "delta time" to make movement truly independent of fps* Put simply, it asks the OS or whatever how much "real time" has passed between this and the last frame (the delta), and multiplies the speed by that delta to advance. So if it moves 1 unit per second, at 30 fps it'd advance 1/30th of a unit every frame (since the distance between frames is 1/30th of a second), at 60 it'd be 1/60th every frame, etc. If the processing rate ever dips, the speed is adjusted automatically by the very nature of the algorithm. * ok, it's still not 100% independent, but that's irrelevant.

DEMENTIA MUSIC- 😭😭

@@beebissUNUSED Pyrocynical called the song that a while ago, it has stayed with me since

@Lonely Skiddadle Ik ik, I left a goofly long comment on Pyro's video saying where it's from, such an amazing... album? Painful experience?

considering the game is about a toy company shutting down, and it's corruption, it makes sense why burning memory was used, as it's from an album depicting the corruption of memories. interesting stuff!

turns out it's an even more distorted version from the stage 3 album, e2 "and heart breaks" i recognized it immediately because it used to be my favourite song in there

its actually “and heart breaks”

in the old debug build, yes but they changed it in the full release

i caught it immediately as 'everywhere at the end of time stage 1' which is just a slight remix of heartaches

@@MiLk-ie8yh kinda, this is "and heart breaks" from part 3 iirc but yeah based on heart aches

The version they used was from an album called "Everywhere at the End of Time." But yeah, I agree. I feel like they already used it.

I noticed that too

that’s smart asf

That should have been in the game, but maybe it wouldn't have worked for that particular scene so it got cut. Hopefully it comes back in a later chapter

Lol

It wasn't "It's Just A Burning Memory", it was "And Heart Breaks" Wait you associate it with the backrooms...... Bruh.....

@@reddodeado301 Chads associate it with… wait what was it again?

@@subnau0424 I forgor 💀

What is that?

@@deusgamer7154 Everywhere at the End of Time. It's an album created by The Caretaker that symbolizes the stages of dementia. It's interesting to listen to and to read about, it got very popular last year despite it being released a few years back.

It’s an excerpt from the album. It’s the first song on a different level (I think it’s level 2, I love eateot)

Im pretty sure it is the actual song and they probably had to remove it due to rights, and if they had the rights to it then it was probably remove because the song can trigger some emotional stuff

That’s because it’s exactly what that is

Yeah I think they used it as a placeholder before they actually had their own music

Actually, its "And heartbreaks", A Version of burning memory played later on into the Album/stages of Everywhere at the end of time! (But overall, you're not wrong, friend!) But I was really shocked to hear it play, though. I love EATOFT and i like to think the music in the game was based off of his albums just a tad.

While you're not wrong that the song was used by the caretakers in their Recording 'Everywhere at the end of time'. I do have to say that the song isn't called that, the correct title is 'Heartaches', a 1931 song composed by Al Hofman with lyrics written by John Klenner. Specifically, the version used is one sung by British Jazz vocalist Al Bowlly. He was known for this sort of style of music, with songs such as 'If anything happened to you', 'It's all forgotten Now', and 'Midnight and the Stars and you'. The latter two of which were used in the horror movie, 'The Shining'. I'm sorry for this, it's just I've seen all these people refer to it as such like the Caretakers created it, but I know that while the song became known as 'it's just a burning memory', as a fan of songs of that time period I just felt the need to shed light onto the truth of the song's title and origin.

@@Nic2121 You're alright, lad! But thank ya for explaining it with a lot more information than what I usually see about where Burning Memory's sample came! :D

I think it’s from like stage 2-3 using the same sample