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EXTREME (In)Efficiency | Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid | Test Drive 

Misha Charoudin
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It speaks for itself that the faster you drive, the higher your fuel consumption is. This effect is already immediately noticeable on relatively small speed differences, say 130 kmh instead of 120. But what if we could compare 130 km/h against 315 km/h ?
Enter Porsche Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid in the sexy SportTurismo pre-facelift shape. 680 horsepower and 315 km/h vmax. Back in 2019 I had the car for a week and decided to do something else than a regular test drive. I had an appointment for a video shoot with Audi in Ingolstadt, almost 500 kms from the Nürburgring. My goal? Drive as fast as I possibly can there, and sticking to 130 kmh advised speed limit on the way back and in the end compare the two runs.
Topics and Time Stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:28 Car and Setup
01:03 Disclaimers
01:56 FAST/ V-MAX Trip
09:42 Normal (130 km/h limit) Trip
14:08 Conclusions
16:07 Bonus: 100 km/h limit Test
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@KrustyCream
@KrustyCream 3 года назад
I can't imagine having that much HP, an empty autobahn, and not making the pedal touch the floor mat. Props Misha!! 👏👏👏
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад
Really interesting video mate!
@rajjy1976
@rajjy1976 3 года назад
Cheers mate
@olfranca
@olfranca 3 года назад
Amazed by how in 130km/h feels like you're stoped intl the midle of the road, as here in Brazil ir you drive this speed feels like you're speed of light comparing ta other cars
@piciu256
@piciu256 3 года назад
Camera makes the speed look lower too. I cannot imagine zooming past a truck @90kph in the next lane when going 300+, it feels ridiculously fast when going 170 already :P
@ksochacki
@ksochacki 3 года назад
4:22 fuel tank is kept under negative pressure so the fuel shelf life is higher in case you drive a lot in electric only mode. Thats why sometimes you have to wait until pressure equalizes and the fuel cap opens.
@lswrpsahp8985
@lswrpsahp8985 Год назад
so cool
@kikyoass
@kikyoass Год назад
Thanks for the tip
@JamalPennant
@JamalPennant 3 года назад
really like the editing and presentation your doing here misha 👍
@wvth7850
@wvth7850 3 года назад
"Looking at you, Netherlands" :🤣🤣
@mauritsphilipse5884
@mauritsphilipse5884 3 года назад
Stelletje gekken hier..... ‘co2 uitstoot reduceren’
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
@@mauritsphilipse5884 ff de hele wereld redden met 17 mil man. Man man man.
@McRubiego
@McRubiego 3 года назад
@@mgcharoudin Waar en hoe heb je Nederlands geleerd?! Taalwonder Misha, Nederlands, Duits, Engels, Russisch. Legend!
@MacXpert74
@MacXpert74 3 года назад
@@mgcharoudin Precies, milieugekkies in Nederland denken dat ze de wereld kunnen redden. LOL!
@jankees4037
@jankees4037 3 года назад
Maybe it isn't allowed but I regularly drive 200+ in the Netherlands. When you know where the police is, it's quite easy. Some simple highway basics and rules and you can speed whatever you like. Just don't do it on the ringroad of Rotterdam or Amsterdam. But the long stretches towards away from the Randstad area, some are even better to speed that the German autobahns. Because of better asphalt quality, better views in long corners (Germany has many times bad views in long curves on autobahns) and also in Netherlands are less long lasting roadworks. That is indeed the disatvantage of Germany. Roadworks take so long.
@RDSAlphard
@RDSAlphard 3 года назад
Daddy's Porsche again? 🤣
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
HAHAHA Great memory! Remember when car meets was a thing? Actually, Daddy's Porsche was the non-Turbo I had before this one.
@TheMilenkata
@TheMilenkata 3 года назад
@@mgcharoudin it was non Turbo yep :)
@jasin677
@jasin677 2 года назад
What a dumb jelaous coment
@VisualCarReviews
@VisualCarReviews 3 года назад
Such an interesting review, thanks! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 года назад
Thank you!
@xxquackixx178
@xxquackixx178 3 года назад
9:42 "And Mexico" made my day XD
@nadavelkabets
@nadavelkabets 3 года назад
Why Mexico?
@trdartz
@trdartz 3 года назад
Really dig the glasses lol.. very suitable when explaining vehicle specs...Russian scientist look😁
@larsheuchemer671
@larsheuchemer671 3 года назад
"Looking at you, Netherlands", ouch that one hurts ;-(
@g9icy
@g9icy 3 года назад
I'd love a comparison with a big BMW or Audi diesel, something like a 335d or equally big Audi.
@Jimmythefish577
@Jimmythefish577 3 года назад
It’s slightly weird how you’re morphing into a Robert clone......😂
@edimitris
@edimitris 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@MaliarMedia
@MaliarMedia 3 года назад
Undoubtful proof it was recorded pre-corona: As you can see i'm fresh and fruity :D
@zloychechen5150
@zloychechen5150 3 года назад
i wonder what's the freshness to fruitiness ratio
@dennislee9776
@dennislee9776 3 года назад
7:33 Misha: as you can see I’m fresh and fruity 😂😂😂😂
@DavyR33
@DavyR33 3 года назад
My new favourite - Slavic Engineering Explained ♥️
@nirfz
@nirfz 3 года назад
Very interesting! A few years back (2014) i did 634km through Austria and Germany with a 2010 E63 (the non turbo engine). 1/3rd of the distance was in germany and due to traffic 240kph was the max possible speed we reached there, while 130kph is the max allowed limit in Austria. And as a law abiding driver i kept to that. I did the whole distance on one fuel tank. (filled up before the start and at the end) and reached 11,12 L/100km. It was summer, the AC was running, we were 4 adults + luggage in the car and we stopped every 2 hours for a short break. (one of the adults was my 80+ year old Grandma) When looking at the numbers you reached with the Porsche, i am quite pleased with what the, at the time you recorded it, at least 9 years older 6.2 V8 without electric help, and without downsizing and coasting features is able to do. (i still have the car)
@romka_ind
@romka_ind 3 года назад
"There is high price attached to speed", don't do drugs kids! Listen what Misha told ya :)
@ianjames5505
@ianjames5505 3 года назад
Doing 300kmh an hour and still notice take time to love the scenery especially the sky!!! Many after my own heart Great video
@MrSkyl1ne
@MrSkyl1ne 3 года назад
This is quality content, don't shy away from it during prime season, it's a nice change-up now and then.
@RatiIamsopha
@RatiIamsopha 3 года назад
Huge respect for doing this. Thank you!
@realelaverick
@realelaverick 3 года назад
Fantastic video, love how easily you can switch between fun track videos and more in-depth analysis like this.
@andras.89
@andras.89 3 года назад
"You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" - and fast, with that Porsche :D Underrated Offspring album, loved to see it on Your playlist :)
@CarlMCL
@CarlMCL 3 года назад
Quite interesting, glad you finally released it!
@danI43541
@danI43541 3 года назад
Great video! Loved all the detailed insights and POV footage. Enjoyed watching it - the long wait/edit payed off
@armincekric7621
@armincekric7621 3 года назад
Really enjoyed watching this test, thank you Misha! 😊
@maereanm
@maereanm 3 года назад
4:20 . it takes a few seconds for the gas cap to open because the gas tanks in PHEVs are pressurised and hermetically sealed. a PHEV can drive for months in electric only so the gas tank must trap the vapors that may form.
@GeeMilner
@GeeMilner 2 года назад
Just watching this, found it super interesting!
@simracing7624
@simracing7624 3 года назад
This was better than most TV production car shows! Great work! Really smooth to watch
@4ArminTheGreat4
@4ArminTheGreat4 3 года назад
I forgot that i was waiting for this video, Thank you very much Misha !
@Max-Emig
@Max-Emig 3 года назад
The review came up so good Misha! Really enjoyed this test, something you don’t have every day when seeing a (consumption) test in a car like that. :)
@grant7336
@grant7336 3 года назад
I remember when you had this car and I knew you had more content from it. Love it!
@markuswagner370
@markuswagner370 Год назад
Thank you Misha, that was really helpful. You clearly know what you are talking about.
@Clarkyclarke1
@Clarkyclarke1 3 года назад
Proper cool vid Misha as always! 👌🏻🤟🏻
@Siskovski
@Siskovski 3 года назад
Great video and nice analysis, cheers
@byTozR
@byTozR 3 года назад
such a cool video, glad you decided to upload it even a year later :D
@reventonlp640
@reventonlp640 3 года назад
I prefer this kind of presentation. Great video misha!
@mikers73
@mikers73 3 года назад
Found your channel today. These are exactly the kinds of videos I'm looking for, especially for a Dream Estate. Thank you!
@DanijelTurina973
@DanijelTurina973 3 года назад
A Volvo V60 D3 owner: Sees fuel bill. Is in shock.
@jankees4037
@jankees4037 3 года назад
But then again your diesel doesn't do 300+ or 250+ or even 225+.
@DanijelTurina973
@DanijelTurina973 3 года назад
@@jankees4037 It does 220, which hardly matters since the speed limit is 130 where I live.
@chris7605
@chris7605 3 года назад
Well...when you can afford a 150k euro car, i'm pretty sure you don't care the gas bills. There are much more efficient cars with diesel engine that can have an average speed very similar to that Porsche. In 2010, i got a Cayenne S for 2 weeks. I kept it most of the time in the garage (20 l/100km). I prefer to have a 911 and a medium diesel car at my disposal.
@DZGAMING05
@DZGAMING05 3 года назад
i would like to see more of these kind of videos really enjoyed it , Thx misha !
@ffrreeddyy95
@ffrreeddyy95 3 года назад
Great video! Nice to see that the 680hp Porsche needs as much fuel at 130 as my Cupra 🥲
@talalesmail
@talalesmail 3 года назад
This video was great. Thank you
@KayJblue
@KayJblue 3 года назад
The Sport Turismo is a true enthusiast dream car! And the Hybrid drivetrain adds some extra practicality, truly a good car and wonderful insight, thanks as usual for the Tier One content!
2 года назад
this is the best content from a automotive youtuber I have seen for a long long time! real car guy doing real car guy stuff. you should drive more on the road, thank you
@berniehf
@berniehf 3 года назад
Great great video Misha!
@mateuszdorocki5236
@mateuszdorocki5236 3 года назад
i've always wanted to know that, seriously! thx :D
@bobstarr
@bobstarr 3 года назад
Yes! Random facts! :) I just got a speeding ticket two weeks ago and if I get another excessive speeding ticket in the next two years they can take my car away for two months. This time it was only a week. I am now learning how good fuel consumption is at the speed limit.
@looped7979
@looped7979 2 года назад
Thanks a lot for your resarch
@erne-7035
@erne-7035 2 года назад
such an informative video. Loved it..thanks man!
@gafrers
@gafrers 3 года назад
Great, this was so interesting to watch. I hope to see similar stuff in the future
@sickjohnson
@sickjohnson 3 года назад
Super Jelly Misha, that looked like a friggin blast and a half! #KickTheTiresAndLightTheFires
@telomnisi3048
@telomnisi3048 3 года назад
Man you deserve a million subs. One day I'm coming to visiting you in Germany for a Nordschleife experience :)
@edwardfrench945
@edwardfrench945 3 года назад
Perfect family car. ❤️👍
@edwardfrench945
@edwardfrench945 3 года назад
Really enjoyed that upload Misha and great detail. Thank you Tier 1.
@soifranc
@soifranc 6 месяцев назад
Excellent video - well done!
@TaPaKaH1
@TaPaKaH1 3 года назад
I'd reckon that fuel consumption while driving at the Ring is even higher than at Vmax.
@Larsyboy1997
@Larsyboy1997 3 года назад
Yeah close to 1L per km
@steffenkawa8374
@steffenkawa8374 3 года назад
much higher. My tiny 1.8 supercharged Toyota engine gets 6mpg at the Hockenheimring.
@Larsyboy1997
@Larsyboy1997 3 года назад
@@steffenkawa8374 I did 1L per km with the 488 GTB on track
@charlesmartin6967
@charlesmartin6967 3 года назад
I tell you man, when you have more patience than me. If I see empty straight, I go BRAP BRAP ZOOOM! As always, amazing videos Comrad!!
@m1keY_YOUTUBE
@m1keY_YOUTUBE 3 года назад
excellent, nice review - interesting to see and hear !
@shukriaidil7505
@shukriaidil7505 3 года назад
Great video. I think we need more video like this for guide us what car to buy for long drive.
@shaunwhitfield112
@shaunwhitfield112 3 года назад
Class video misha 🙌🙌what a car 😎great vid as ever nice mixing it up content wise 🙌🙌🙌😉
@patrickbrady5153
@patrickbrady5153 3 года назад
Awesome vid glad you endured the trip home. Pretty cool to watch u drop mpg at end
@carsfriendsandfood8150
@carsfriendsandfood8150 3 года назад
That was pretty interesting ! I’m subscribed now! Thank you for that video.
@BiglumpADV
@BiglumpADV 3 года назад
Great video, really interesting to see the real world difference.
@mohammadal-abbasi7247
@mohammadal-abbasi7247 Год назад
That was so interesting. Thanks!
@padraigg9508
@padraigg9508 3 года назад
great video Misha. Shows there is a car that does most things pretty well.
@JJaguar001
@JJaguar001 3 года назад
Good guy! Good test! Thanks ;)
@n.danishsamuel2497
@n.danishsamuel2497 3 года назад
A Test we never needed but now we do...👍
@fernandovillarreal4982
@fernandovillarreal4982 3 года назад
One of my favourite cars...
@tohany4free
@tohany4free 3 года назад
Just casually cruising at 310km/hour Unreal machine 👏 Great video 👍
@deavall1
@deavall1 3 года назад
I started watching Micha to switch off from the current situation. Great no brainer but sensible coverage of the Ring and others. Keep up the great videos, really good work. The measures/conversion in the video are very informative:-) Night driving at 315kph on the Motorway/Interstate/Autobahn/Autoroute etc. is certainly an eye opener!
@louistotaal4105
@louistotaal4105 3 года назад
Great Video Micha
@rjnation5042
@rjnation5042 3 года назад
Awesome video mate, also love that car especially in the shaggin wagon, they look excellent, Rj watching from Oz
@wessengel9182
@wessengel9182 3 года назад
Thank you for this video
@micheltebraake7915
@micheltebraake7915 3 года назад
Mooi wetenschappelijk onderbouwd Misha.
@v12hybridrally70
@v12hybridrally70 3 года назад
Love this car!!!
@edmurth
@edmurth 3 года назад
That was really interesting, Misha. It was funny seeing you pop up on Super GT’s stream over the weekend.
@MrE30
@MrE30 3 года назад
Evening Misha that was a well calculated fuel consumption review
@Banana-Joe007
@Banana-Joe007 3 года назад
Sehr interessantes Video. Thank's! Have a nice evening ✌☺
@Scalachi123
@Scalachi123 3 года назад
That nite view wicked..sweet ride
@zakaria4988
@zakaria4988 3 года назад
GENIUS!!!
@MT-vh6hd
@MT-vh6hd 11 месяцев назад
Great video man! Lets get your channel to 1million subs!!!
@Pedro5antos_
@Pedro5antos_ 3 года назад
5:40 AWESOME content, Misha
@EpicKillstreak
@EpicKillstreak 3 года назад
Awesome video Misha, I always wanted to see comparison like that. Was wondering how much quicker and more expensive it would be if I had access to the unlimited (even not all the time) road to drive. And now I know, thank you for that :)
@christophechanterault441
@christophechanterault441 3 года назад
Bravo for this (fast and not furious) test Misha. Both variations of a theme, really interesting. This could become a standard, like doug scores.
@exiownage
@exiownage 3 года назад
Good idea for the comparison 👍🏻
@DakeAit
@DakeAit 3 года назад
I like this bro science analysis)) Миша красавчик!
@Tom-iu7vv
@Tom-iu7vv 3 года назад
great video!!
@jtl789456123
@jtl789456123 3 года назад
Just love that car
@DanSallis
@DanSallis 3 года назад
This is a very interesting video Misha. It makes sense that the fuel efficiency does not decrease with the same proportion the speed increased which I will explain below if anyone is interested. The first part is that the relationship between fuel efficiency and speed is non-linear mainly due to the non-linearity of the resistive forces with increased speed. These resistive forces in modern day vehicles are typically dominated by air resistance. The formula for air resistance at a given speed is Fd = 0.5*p*(v^2)*Cd*A. In this case (assuming the air density is largely the same between runs) "p", "Cd" and "A" are constant values and can therefore be excluded for this comparison. This means that the drag force (Fd) is directly proportional to the square of the velocity (v). If we put some numbers into this theory, we can show that the linear relationship between 102 km/h and 164 km/h is ~1.61 whereas the relationship of the squares is ~2.59. This means the engine is having to do 2.59 times instead of 1.61 times more work just to overcome the increase in air resistance. Why is this relationship of the squares (2.59) not the same as the relationship of the fuel consumption figures (3.37)? Well, this leads to the second part, the ratios are not the same because combustion engines are designed to be more efficient at certain RPMs, usually cruising RPMs in the region of 2000 to 3500. I am not a chemical or powertrain engineer, so I cannot comment further on specifically how this works or why this range is chosen. However, what it means is that the RPM at 102 km/h is causing the engine to be relatively more efficient than at 164 km/h (made worse by the fact Misha was driving for some parts at 315 km/h with revs higher than 6000 RPM).
@petripaavola819
@petripaavola819 3 года назад
Very nice and informative video. Thank you Misha! I really like the fact that you did the return trip on sensible 130kmh speed which is very much applicable here in Finland at highways. This allows me to estimate how much such a car would consume and also gives idea how would be the panamera 4 e-hybrid sport turismo perform (I'm considering purchasing one).
@Istee104
@Istee104 3 года назад
I'd be curious about how the fuel consumption and travel time changes in a high powered diesel, maybe an S6 or an M550d. And hats off for being able to keep the advised speed limit :D
@jankees4037
@jankees4037 3 года назад
Best is to go in between, to still be quick but save a lot of money. Cruise speed of 180-200 is more douable.
@igi2000
@igi2000 3 года назад
Great work
@ramsey6253
@ramsey6253 3 года назад
Great video
@XTrojanClauseX
@XTrojanClauseX 3 года назад
Niceee , this is actually really fun , I do it all the time ( fast vs slow driving)
@shanescarlife
@shanescarlife 3 года назад
I appreciate your suffering on the way back, Misha. Lol!!!
@sleepless3y3s
@sleepless3y3s 10 месяцев назад
And I'm watching this 2 years later.
@kynf6721
@kynf6721 5 месяцев назад
amazing video i laughed a lot !! goodd content uwu
@revmatchtv
@revmatchtv 3 года назад
I miss the Autobahn! Cool comparison :)
@benkohnen9918
@benkohnen9918 3 года назад
Thank you for the conversion helps me from hitting the Google ha!!! Great video
@2beCuil
@2beCuil 3 года назад
Very cool!
@luckyluc8890
@luckyluc8890 3 года назад
Damm i didn't know it was that expensive!! Great video
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