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Yeah, but this Panamera hybrid is approx 140,000 K and the other Panamera hybrid is approx 80,000 K. Admittedly its specs are not at the same level, but the price premium for the top of the line model is in no way justifiable.

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@@lucasjbeily7730 official name is Mercedes-AMG GT 63 S 4MATIC+

@@franciscoribeiro9103 You HAVE to add the “4-door" part or it would be ambiguous - different cars!

Less metal in the badge

That’s SUPER FUNNY:D

Lol

Order it debadged

@@Philliyum it’s not a internal combustion engine car

Yea what's the trend with all these gopping grills nowadays? I don't like it at all

@@KevinKickChannel I don't mind them

Porsches do not normally have a large grille, this is a throwback to when they just had rear and mid engine cars. Now the SUVs and the Panamera are obviously front engine vehicles, but the Porsche design language carries on.

@Valkyrie 007 That is the savagest of Tesla burns.

You could be a speaker on the room of a electric can playing " vroom vroom " noises or just shout out the window " ahhhhhh" as you drive along?

sad thing is that it's a very inefficient process that will most likely produce very expensive fuel.

Not if you give it to something like the US military and have them innovate like they did during the manhattan project

@@Ramuis166 Yes but for long distance air travel or remote operation of engines, it might be the only option that is close to carbon neutral. There are also other ways to do Power-to-Fuel and also Solar-to-Fuel as well as bio-fuels. Also, like Henry correctly pointed out, they are typically drop-in capable, as they are very close to regular fuel, which is a huge advantage for flight (planes are renewed maybe every 30 years or so).

@@evandentes4716 i'm sorry but you do not seem to understand physics... The problem with e fuels is the efficiency of the processes involved. It's only viable at all if you use renewable energy, and you will need a lot more energy to get an ice car with e fuels over a distance of 100km than you need to get an electric car over the same distance. Only if we have an enormous overproduction of renewables this will be an actual option

Until you realize you'll start siphoning off the ocean. I'm sure the effect won't be as massive as you'd think, but given enough time.. well who knows.

5,379 pounds in American units. Impressive chonk.

A full metric ton heavier than a sports car. Impressive, how they’re able to make it move as it does.

Still fast and drives well.

Insane considering how well it handles. Best handling car i've ever been in.

@@TheBowerbird a fast chonk😂

AMEN to this. Super heavy, luxury, green cars, full of rare materials... its all very weird.

Enabling the combustion engine industry and its emissions kind of defeats the whole purpose of going EV. It only makes sense that driving gasoline vehicles will become more expensive, an enthusiast activity.

Facts

@@SoCalFreelance ya owning a gas car in the future if they are still rolling ice cars it will be more expensive to own than electric car but hey its trade back for gas car enthusiast like me

Agreed.

Pretty sure they all worked together at EVO?

Good call mate, they wouldn’t have the same dynamic but they would make awesome reviews.

Can't we just let Top Gear RIP? Top Gear was Clarkson, May and Hammond

@@herkiee1 absolutely agree and they went on to do great things with the Grand Tour! The latest re incarnation of TG is abysmal except for Harris. It was just a throw away comment about Henry, Harry and Chris, although wouldn’t a YT collaboration be fantastic?

yes but Panameras are meant to be luxurious - you would have to sacrifice a lot of luxurious features of Panamera to shave off a ton and what would you get? Something Porsche already does, e.g. Turbo S.

and if my Aunt had bollocks she'd be my Uncle! It's heavy for a whole number of reasons, all of which are part of Porsche's design. May as well say 'if the GT2 RS weighed 2 tons it wouldn't be any fun' 🙄

Or eastearn Europe where most of the countries have no light on the roads at night. Don't believe me? Go Google Earth night view.

There’s many many roads where it can be helpful, more roads have no night lights and large critters crossing than roads that are lit up and you’ll never see an animal on the road.

It's incredible!

We can use E-fuels for everything we can't or don't want to power with electricity or with hydrogen. As with hydrogen production, e-fuels are a lot less energy efficient than just using the electricity in an electric car or a train. And we'd need to built enough factories to produce that stuff and enough generation capacity and power grid infrastructure to support those factories. I don't see what would be to gain by going that way.

what made it so good ?

@@wc8561 At first it was my disbelief that something that weighs the thick end of 5,000 pounds could feel so agile. The Panamera does that thing great cars do where it wraps itself around you like a warm blanket on a cold day. You're almost at one with it. The steering is sharp and accurate (maybe lacking in feedback from the road surface, but it's so direct it almost makes up for that). Plus the rear-wheel steering really helps. You really can feel the thing pivot in tighter bends. Porsche's ceramic brakes are the best in the business, too. They're immediate, as in the braking starts right at the top of the pedal. There's no squeezing to do. You want to stop? It stops, and in a hurry, too. It's also ridiculously fast, sounds great, and is comfortable on longer commutes (took a road trip in it just to be sure). It feels just like the 992 I drove in 2019, but bigger and much faster (in a straight line).

@@Nick-qx1vf Were you comfortable with the very substantial (exterior) dimensions of the car? I would love to pick up a used Panamera... if only it were Taycan sized.

@@RoyalFizzbin It took me about a day to get used to it. They are not inconsiderable dimensions, but it isn't hard to park. If you live where parking is tight you might find yourself see-sawing at the wheel a lot to get it right, though.

I would like to know more about the advantages you saw over an RS6 and E63? Though i am currently looking into the GTS variant of the Panamera as it’s more within budget. I would like to hear your thoughts

And weighs 2.7Tonnes!

None of this car makes any sense.

Yeah but you get £50 off of vegan sausages at Waitrose

Same here

Taycan sport turismo?

That still has all the same styling characteristics as the regular Taycan. Except with a longer roof line.

just some buzzwords to keep the general public happy ;p

How about semi trucks,planes they travel everyday evs these would be non existent they dont have that much range evs maybe better on car but on trucks and planes e fuels would be better

@@christopherayala4619 My comment is really in relation to e-fuels for car where EV is a viable solution, but clearly for aviation electric power is not possible given power density limit of batteries vs hydrocarbons. Still, if one wants a “closed-loop” fuel system (i.e. where carbon is taken out of the environment in order to produce fuel) then arguably bio-fuels (i.e. fuel made from plants) are a preferable alternative as they too take carbon dioxyde out of the environment (albeit not necessarily as much CO2 out of the air) and produce fuel at a much lower energetic cost than e-fuels. Porsche needs to let go e-fuels; there will be plenty of oil in the ground for decades to come, the governments will tax ICE cars and fuels to the point where it doesn’t make sense to buy new ones anymore. Older ICE will always run, and as oil price (pre-tax) increases over time as the existing supply dwindles, other oil wells that are currently not economical to exploit at less than $50 per barrel will become viable alternatives. Based one what I have read, fossil oil could still be cheaper than e-fuels even at $200 per barrel. Porsche should instead invest some money in carbon capture programs if they want to feel better about their ICE legacy

@@lastlondon I think governments banning new ice cars is just all propaganda there will be alot of demand of making ice cars companies will be happy to

@@lastlondon imagine in the future where everyday cars are full evs but diesel semi trucks planes still be using combustion engine is weird

Thank you - it's a Bremont U-2/51-Jet on a NATO strap.

This why porsche is my favor it company they know that ice cars have a place in the future not just ev cars. Ill thank porsche for saving new ice cars in the future

In that case, it is not a car that you can afford. Simple as that.

@@prometheus9443 😴

But the RS Q8 is faster than the Urus. But I think their price difference is larger

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Panamera 4 e-hybrid isn’t nearly as nice to drive in comparison to the GTS and above. Porsche gave the ‘lesser’ models more of a comfort and day to day executive feeling rather than the punchy straight to the bends higher end models, especially seen by the GTS. As for the Taycan 4S? Well that’s interesting because you’re comparing a base electric Porsche to the top hybrid, i’d still take the Turbo S-E, but if electric stations are more dependable, then my choice could change.

With fly-by-wire throttle and boost control I doubt the system will give you fully loud when cold even if you ask for it.

I Hope for it to succeed so the governments could lift the ban on new ice cars

I think the gearbox can't handle the immense combined torque, so the 630PS engine can't be put into the plug in hybrid Panamera turbo s

@@fabi3276I imagine it’s actually because they’re going to come out with a car in the future with that engine and the hybrid system

Leave it in Hybrid auto is probably the best strategy. As for the hybrid system being dead weight there is one trick it can (and does) use even at constant speed. That is to use the motor/generator to load the engine to put it into a more efficient load condition and then use the electricity generated to "sail" later on. It's a bit like an automated burn and coast but using the battery rather than inertia as the energy store. Given that burn and coast can easily give 20% improvement in efficiency we might expect perhaps 15% from this system.

@@ColinMill1 thank you

The standard Turbo S for me. Estate, for sure.

There's something about the GT63 S 4dr Coupe which doesn't sit well with me. I do like the roofline but I feel, personally, that the CLS serves as a more refined rendition of roughly the same design concept. I understand the GT63 S is significantly quicker, but as someone who appreciates the kinetic art dynamic of vehicles just as much as the performance, I'd rather go with the CLS53 and spend the remaining cash on some art for the house.

The Taycan SP is coming later in the year - or early 2022 - depending on the market.