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Eye of the Beholder on Commodore 64. Really. 

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After 16 years, the legendary PC game arrives on the C64 and 128! Let’s take a look at this highly anticipated port and the work that went into bringing it to life!
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00:00 Introduction
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02:24 The Game
07:56 Dual Monitor
09:16 Development
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@retrobitstv
@retrobitstv Год назад
The game is now available here! eotb64.com/
@JBOpie13
@JBOpie13 Год назад
Works with the MouSTer, by the way.
@SashkAleX
@SashkAleX Год назад
@@JBOpie13 thank you, sir. I was just wondering about it!
@Isoquant
@Isoquant Год назад
This is unbelievable! They went all out and created a modern retro masterpiece with full mouse support, 2 Mhz support, dual monitor support, lovingly crafted graphics and audio that max out the system's capabilities, and retains the full complexity of the original title... I'm speechless!
@ace942
@ace942 11 месяцев назад
Never had a C64 (Had an Atari 800XL) but it is impressive that on such a small system they were able to create a very faithful recreation of Eye of the Beholder. Thanks for showing the game.
@Murrlin27
@Murrlin27 Год назад
6:40 Fine! You attack the darkness!
@BadManiac
@BadManiac Год назад
This is... I'm speechless. This is incredibly impressive. A single Megahertz and 0.064MB RAM and it does this! Hang on, let me pick my jaw up off the floor...
@rabarebra
@rabarebra Год назад
You do not realise that you can load another 64kb from a disk image, and another one, and another one, and another? What is so impressive?
@X1L3
@X1L3 Год назад
@@rabarebra Where's yours?
@rabarebra
@rabarebra Год назад
@@X1L3 There.
@zacmussatt9267
@zacmussatt9267 Год назад
An important thing to keep in mind is that 6502 architecture is vastly different than x86. That 1ish MHz clock cycle is used a lot differently. In a way it’s more efficient than say an 8088. Arguably the c64 is a more powerful machine that an 8088 running at I believe around 4mhz.
@demoman1596sh
@demoman1596sh Год назад
@@rabarebra Bitter for some reason?
@st3ddyman
@st3ddyman Год назад
That's an incredible achievement. It looks even more beautiful running on the C64.
@Charles_Bro-son
@Charles_Bro-son Год назад
The more muted colour palette fits the dark sewers fantasy dungeon setting well.
@Riva1000
@Riva1000 Год назад
I started making games long time ago on 8bits, then Amiga, then 90s IBM PCs. I know all the tricks. But this, this is next level !
@tubejay1
@tubejay1 Год назад
I never had a C64 or any Commodore, but I have to admit, the SID chip is freaking great. What a cool sounding chip. The raunchy distortion it produces is just so awesome and good sounding.
@retrobitstv
@retrobitstv Год назад
Completely unrelated to the game but there are some great SID tunes still being made. LukHash recently released a full album for the C64 (it's also on Spotify, etc.) that's amazing! ru-vid.comQgIVV-Zjnbg
@shaolin95
@shaolin95 Год назад
The c64...such a legend. Insane what some can do with it
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere Год назад
It warms my heart, truly, to see so much love and attention being given to retro systems nowadays, from our beloved C64 to the Atari 2600 and everything in between. This includes both hardware and software! It shows how much of an impact these old systems had on us when we were kids. Now that we have money to spend and time to burn, many of us have decided to make - or buy - these games for our own gratification. Awesome!
@darkridearts
@darkridearts Год назад
I love it. Modern games are just not as interesting overall.
@datriaxsondor590
@datriaxsondor590 Год назад
Wow. If this game had been made back in era, it would've blown people's minds, including my own. XD It looks incredible for the C64. Props to everyone involved with this. Very, very nicely done.
@archieil
@archieil Год назад
It'd cost $10k ;-)
@YourXavier
@YourXavier Год назад
3:35 That 3d turn is brilliant, considering the time.
@cheater00
@cheater00 Год назад
What an amazing port. Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention.
@ArttuTheCat
@ArttuTheCat Год назад
I played EYE OF THE BEHOLDER a lot on my Amiga 500, and the Commodore 64 version of this game looks amazing 😺👍.
@hooankee
@hooankee Год назад
It looks like a 16 bits version. Amazing.😲
@Damaniel3
@Damaniel3 Год назад
This whole thing is pretty impressive, but that dual monitor C128 mode is super slick.
@darkridearts
@darkridearts Год назад
I was legitimately shocked when he got to that part 😅
@t0xcn253
@t0xcn253 Год назад
I'm SAYING
@fourthhorseman4531
@fourthhorseman4531 Год назад
That is hands down one of the most amazing things I've ever seen! I would not have thought a port of this quality possible. Amazing!
@luomotigre2803
@luomotigre2803 Год назад
Holy moly...Getting my C64 fixed, now! Was superfan of this on Amiga back in the days...and I actually think it looks better in this color palette + there is automap!
@space302
@space302 Год назад
I remember having a terrible outdated PC that could barely play anything anymore at that time, yet Eye Of the Beholder was running flawlessly on it, and had way more depth than I expected, I didn't even manage to finish it back then.
@lauraiss1027
@lauraiss1027 Год назад
The condition in which your monitors and console are and whole clean setup, is a sight to behold on it's own. Love when retro hardware is being looked after like that. Thank you!
@Virtualblueart
@Virtualblueart Год назад
I love how people keep doing amazing things with my favourite old beige breadbin. I would think things like this would be impossible if I didn't see it here.
@LeftoverBeefcake
@LeftoverBeefcake Год назад
Since we have such awesome hardware add-ons available for the C64 now, it's wonderful that people are taking advantage of them like this. I hope this trend continues!
@TheLastLineLive
@TheLastLineLive Год назад
Wow, this is super impressive, visually and audibly it's amazing and that dual monitor feature is mind blowing for such an old system.
@robintst
@robintst Год назад
I am utterly blown away by the quality of this port. Gotta be honest, I think I like the overall visual presentation of this more than any of the originals.
@kh2387
@kh2387 Год назад
I remember spending weeks on EOTB 1 and 2. Such awesome games. That intro brings back memories :) Having the map on a second screen would have made it so much easier :P
@charlesjmouse
@charlesjmouse Год назад
Speaking as a person of a certain age I have no nostalgia for the C=64 having not owned one BITD ...but I own one now because I am in to retro electronics and it has to be said development for this machine is more vibrant than any other platform - hence regular minor miracles like this. Very well done developers! (I'm finally going to have to build myself a cartridge solution it seems)
@t0xcn253
@t0xcn253 Год назад
Truly outstanding! With the addition of the second monitor map, I think this may really be the ideal way to play the game. Mind-blowing.
@m0nde
@m0nde Год назад
Very thorough review, thanks for all of your work telling us about this amazing achievement. Super Mario Bros, Sonic and now this, I hope more ports like this come our way on the C64!
@Darius12235
@Darius12235 Год назад
hot damn I want more retro fantasy gaming content. This scratched my soul deeply and left me with an unquenchable thirst for more
@bennewnham4497
@bennewnham4497 Год назад
I was there when it came out all those years ago. This game was amazing only bettered by the sequel. People have no idea how stunning this was in 1991 well before the era of VR and CoD. It was totally immersive.
@matthewweng8483
@matthewweng8483 Год назад
Such a cool game. Westwood made some really cool stuff... I still play my PC version when I'm itching for a nostalgia fix.
@mbrochh82
@mbrochh82 Год назад
this is one of my earliest childhood memories. I was watching my dad play and my job was to draw a mini map on paper while he traversed the dungeon.
@bwgti
@bwgti Год назад
Everyone in the comments saying how amazing this is seems like an overreaction. It is not. They have taken advantage of every c64/c128 trick and technique imaginable to produce a very, very nice version of this game. It’s the UI that gets me. This was always a huge shortcoming on the more involved c64 games. This version of the music is fantastic on the SID as well. Incredible work.
@rawberg_se
@rawberg_se Год назад
Achievement unlocked - C64 Ninja Master Coder It's mindblowing!
@earthlydescent
@earthlydescent Год назад
When developers are given time and resources, the possibilities are endless.
@ian_b
@ian_b Год назад
To be fair, it's a double edged sword. It can also mean games that never come out whether commercially (Duke Nukem Forever) or particularly in the Kickstarter type scenario. Constraints do tend to mean products get delivered.
@espressomatic
@espressomatic Год назад
Resources being the most important here. This game would not have been possible to make as a commercial product in the C64's production period for a few reasons. The most significant I believe is simply storage requirements for all the assets. Next is the intensive set of development requirements, that at the time of EoB's PC release, would have pushed a C64 port to an unsustainable budget - it would have been commercial suicide for a system past its prime even if the storage didn't make it an impossibility. This is a beautiful port done at a time where all the above (and more) concerns are simply non-issues. Non-commercial in nature, decades of experience doing things with the C64 that no one had time nor budget to explore when developing commercially in the 80's and products like EasyFlash (and compatible devices) offering cheap (and reusable) storage that weren't even a dream in 1991.
@thecappeningchannel515
@thecappeningchannel515 Год назад
@@espressomatic agreed. This could only work as a labor of love. Not a commercial product.
@carlchapman4053
@carlchapman4053 Год назад
This was one on my all time favourites and my absolute best RPG until I got a PC and found Daggerfall but I still think of it even now, 30+ years later.
@steveleadbeater8662
@steveleadbeater8662 Год назад
I'm always amazed at how well the old hardware is used. I'd have bought this back in the day. Astonishingly good, Andreas may be an alien.
@YoreHistory
@YoreHistory Год назад
Just so absolutely stunning and nostalgic for this old Gen Xer to see his beloved C64 able to run a modern version of classic EOTB...what amazing work went into this.
@Ephmral
@Ephmral Год назад
I loved Eye of the beholder game. This, and years later, Morrowind, were huge moments in my gaming life.
@walterwalker2978
@walterwalker2978 Год назад
your wizard looks like he's ready to attack the darkness if needed
@Szederp
@Szederp Год назад
This is the first video I watch on your channel. (sry for my English I am Central Europe and I still live in Europe). Watching this video was a humbling experience. From one hand, as you mentioned, the amount of work done here is crazy, and on the other hand your video and humility also elevated my heart-rate. I am now 36 years old, I was around 7 when I got a C64. You know what? Well, you already know this but this system was fun not for so called "Gamers" ,as they are mentioned today, but it was enjoyed by the whole family. Back then I did not even know that a mouse existed for the C64, we used Datasette (magnetic tapes copied from tapes to tapes to tapes etc.). Thank you for this video. Keep this spirit alive. Greetings from Europe!
@scality4309
@scality4309 Год назад
What country are you from if i may ask?
@marccram6584
@marccram6584 Год назад
The artwork of the great Rick Parks who unfortunately passed away several years ago.
@mrr8702
@mrr8702 Год назад
my mouth dropped on the automap on the 2nd monitor, woooow! super cool :)
@Virtualblueart
@Virtualblueart Год назад
I never would have expected this to be possible let alone look and play this well. Amazing!
@MrMarianoamigo
@MrMarianoamigo Год назад
love c128 features
@gearsofgames
@gearsofgames Год назад
This looks amazing! Supremely impressive work from the devs! Also didn't know the C128 had dual monitor output, this game certainly makes perfect use of that! 😁
@stewiedarkinvisibleid
@stewiedarkinvisibleid Год назад
Unbelievable! Incredible! Back in the day, I played Dungeon Master and Eye of the Beholder 1-3 on Amiga. Those were the days!
@andrewloranger
@andrewloranger Год назад
Wow - such an amazing feat getting this ported while making it look and feel true to the original. BRAVO!
@terrylyn
@terrylyn Год назад
This game looks incredible.
@DLeif-bk3ye
@DLeif-bk3ye Год назад
Absolutely incredible.
@nomorecontinues6564
@nomorecontinues6564 Год назад
Excellent overview video, well done!
@alexandredevert4935
@alexandredevert4935 8 месяцев назад
This is mindbogglingly beautiful
@mattcole6230
@mattcole6230 Год назад
Just awesome! The developers must be overwhelmingly proud if this achievement!
@scality4309
@scality4309 Год назад
Wow. What a project it is.
@ridiculous_gaming
@ridiculous_gaming Год назад
When I first ran Dungeon Master on my ST in 1987, it was simply jaw dropping. Running Eye of the Beholder, which was an Amiga favorite, is inconceivable to imagine running well on an earlier 8 bit.
@jubsy
@jubsy Год назад
Absolutely brilliant. This is so impressive!
@zosxavius
@zosxavius Год назад
This is a masterpiece. Seriously impressive work here.
@TheRememdium
@TheRememdium Год назад
Oh man! Me and my older brother played this, II and III to bits when we were young and it was a game that stuck with me so many years later, easily a favorite among many. What better game to bring back to life. Imagine having that dual screen with the map back in the day, would have been considered cheating back then. Great work on the re-texturing and everything else to everyone who was involved in this. And great video.
@stolz_ar
@stolz_ar Год назад
Simply amazing. Great video!
@keithbeard7133
@keithbeard7133 Год назад
Truly, a labour of love and it certainly shows! Thanks for rasing awareness of this project RB!
@shanilmisra
@shanilmisra Год назад
I cannot believe that I played this game on PC thirty years ago (yes thirty!!!) and even made a walkthrough for it back then. I see the walkthrough still survived (RIP to my hand-drawn maps though), and just reading it again after so many years made me smile. Back then a 'mouse' and the 'internet' were novelties, and it showed. Also I see the walkthrough has garbled characters, and even back then I must have used extended ASCII to draw lines and blocks and so on. Anyway, having owned a VIC-20 I am ASTOUNDED that this game has been released for C-64. Brings back so many fond memories both of the era of the home computer as well as the early days of PC games. Fast forwarding about 8 years through to Baldur's Gate, it shows how much the genre as well as PCs grew in such a short time. Long live this game and the fascination it brought me back then.
@jovmilos
@jovmilos Год назад
This might be the best C128 game ever!
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube Год назад
Fantastic work. Shows you how much is possible with enough time and enough memory.
@retro3188
@retro3188 Год назад
Awesome! I love this port!
@CorrodedCoder
@CorrodedCoder Год назад
I can't believe he utilised a second display on the C128 - I had never heard that was even possible!
@L0wcash
@L0wcash Год назад
This level of quality, 2Mhz support, dual monitor support AND it's free to download?! I must be dreaming.. Amazing work from these coding gods!
@fffUUUUUU
@fffUUUUUU Год назад
You can always donate to show your support. But will ya?
@L0wcash
@L0wcash Год назад
@@fffUUUUUU Sure will! But maybe there will be a dedicated cartridge version i'd like to buy..
@Pergasus
@Pergasus Год назад
I'll say this: the intro melody for the C64 version beats out the DOS and Amiga versions by a wide margine, at least to me.
@exodous02
@exodous02 Год назад
Wow, this is amazing. Imagine going back in time with this game. I guess it wouldn't be possible with the cart, that kind of space just wasn't possible.
@420glass
@420glass Год назад
I loved Tunnels of Doom on Ti 99
@BrettLevin4096
@BrettLevin4096 Год назад
That’s amazing. It looks beautiful and the dual monitor support is super rad.
@ohioterran7374
@ohioterran7374 Год назад
Wow! This is extremely impressive!
@shaunhall960
@shaunhall960 Год назад
This was my game back in the day! Incredible skill went into making this game. Thank you so much for doing this video!
@RetroGameStream
@RetroGameStream Год назад
Dang such a cool project and I really enjoyed how the video was presented. New fan right here!
@MirageDU
@MirageDU Год назад
That is just awesome. Imagine showing someone back than what can be achived on this mashine.
@agahnimous
@agahnimous Год назад
Wow, that is jawdroppingly impressive. Who would have thought this possible? Amazing work.
@ScavengerFX
@ScavengerFX Год назад
This was a great video, thank you!
@Mysticsword
@Mysticsword Год назад
Amazing! I love those old Commodore computers (Vic-20, C64 and Amiga, which I owned them all back in the day) and also much enjoyed such classic RPGs / Dungeon-Crawler types games as presented in this video. For this game to be on a C64, it's very impressive.
@ShamblerDK
@ShamblerDK Год назад
I remember playing on my dads C64 back in the 80s. It's got so many great games.
@TheGunnarRoxen
@TheGunnarRoxen Год назад
That is gorgeous. What an achievement!
@gonzo3915
@gonzo3915 Год назад
This is truly remarkable, thanks for the video good Sir.
@retrobitstv
@retrobitstv Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@arcadesfreaktesco5423
@arcadesfreaktesco5423 Год назад
This port is incredible beyond belief. It's amazing how many things you can fit in 64kb of memory if you know what you are doing. Kudos to the developer.
@IndigoIndustrial
@IndigoIndustrial Год назад
This is an impressive achievement on many levels.
@ZZKJ396
@ZZKJ396 Год назад
This would have been a monster hit back in the day, when there were millions of C64s too... these guys would have been millionaires.
@EFreD-ed4ds
@EFreD-ed4ds Год назад
Yes, because all the pirates from back in the day are also millionares.
@DanLekin
@DanLekin Год назад
@@EFreD-ed4ds It would have been a cartridge game - not so easy to copy.
@EFreD-ed4ds
@EFreD-ed4ds Год назад
@@DanLekin What does that have to do with anything?
@DanLekin
@DanLekin Год назад
@@EFreD-ed4ds It would have been sold pretty good, even back then when everyone had pirated games. I also had (and still have) a C64 with only a few original games, but if this game would have been this good, I would have considered to buy it and I think many people would had back then.
@EFreD-ed4ds
@EFreD-ed4ds Год назад
​@@DanLekin It would not have made them millionaires though. Not by a long shot. A cartridge game may be harder to copy, but I don't see how they would manage to distribute it to a large enough market back in the eighties.
@bobfromsoireegames4309
@bobfromsoireegames4309 Год назад
An incredible port. I wish developers back in the day had had as much time to complete these conversions.
@Michael-im5mq
@Michael-im5mq Год назад
The graphics in a lot of ways actually look better than the original source. And a C128 with dual monitors is an absolute unit.
@thorham1346
@thorham1346 10 месяцев назад
Not really. They're good, but not that good.
@pw1169
@pw1169 Год назад
Thankyou for showing this in a CRT!!
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen Год назад
10:52 I am Galstaff, Sorcerer of Light!
@gardhul
@gardhul Год назад
I'm blown away. Absolutely speechless...
@ScottDCameron
@ScottDCameron Год назад
I love that people exist in the world who take on labours of love like this
@manganoid7426
@manganoid7426 Год назад
This is simply amazing. Not many things leave me in awe these days, yet this left me speechless. Itb would be cool if developers made some original games looking suck like this on c64\128 and make them exclusive for the system :D Thank you for this video :)
@codingwithculp
@codingwithculp Год назад
Absolutely stunning. Love that one of the characters was named Galstaff.
@glenndoiron9317
@glenndoiron9317 Год назад
I cast magic missile on the darkness.
@Ryan-ok2ks
@Ryan-ok2ks Год назад
I almost choked on my soup when I saw that
@Liquidcadmus
@Liquidcadmus Год назад
This is incredible, makes you really wonder what the C64 is really capable of
@xenogearsmegadrive8499
@xenogearsmegadrive8499 Год назад
NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE THIS WORK ! AWESOME !
@datassetteuser356
@datassetteuser356 Год назад
Simply stunning. Can't wait to give it a go on my C128! 🤩👍
@toomanymodz
@toomanymodz Год назад
Amazing work. I'll be buying the box set for sure!
@jokerzwild00
@jokerzwild00 Год назад
Holy crap. I tried to get into EotB so many times when I was a kid but I never had the patience to map for myself. With this setup I could finally finish the game. Amazing, thanks for showing this.
@thecappeningchannel515
@thecappeningchannel515 Год назад
You saved yourself much grief. EoB 1 is pretty much unmappable by hand. Especially with the resources of a kid. Illogical levels and lots of portals and pits. EoB 2 is more map friendly (and a lot easier).
@MansBestCat
@MansBestCat Год назад
Period-correct display, made noone feel old
@Mclaneinc
@Mclaneinc Год назад
It's not my sort of game, BUT you have to admire the level of work that has gone in to this, Amazing!!
@omnibrain3198
@omnibrain3198 Год назад
I wont switch to an Amiga with incredible games like that still coming out for the C64.
@CRAZYHORSE19682003
@CRAZYHORSE19682003 Год назад
I remember playing the Eye Of The Beholder Trilogy on the PC in the early 90's. Fun times.
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