F1 Classic Onboard: 1986 Australian Grand Prix 

+Doug W Exactly.

No music? I hear nothing but the most wonderful symphony :-)

I wish there was music playing over this

That engine is the music

There's no reason to put music when it's not a V6.

+Ferariiman Yeah, still a long way to go though. Why don't they post some full races from the V10 era for instance? It would be nice having some of those with a good video quality.

+Sebastian Simion Giving shit you want away for free is like theft to them. They're too greedy.

+Sebastian Simion probably because they can still cash them out and get some decent euros/dollars for re-broadcasting rights (see the ORF and SkySports UK rebroadcasts). There are rumours now that they're willing to invest into an official online streaming method, which is the best news ever if it becomes reality

+Ferariiman That would be awesome - online streaming with great commentators. Many people would be willing to pay for it.

+BollocksUtwat MotoGP does it, seriously, they have a couple of legendary races on their official channel.

And the worst part: the nowadays guys are called as "champions". 🤣🤣🤣🤣

New F1, cars do the job

@@GF-mf7ml Rubbish 😂

I thought he was just scratching his leg a lot. It's a pattern shifter, not a sequential.

@@jaydaily6751 Yes. Of course, H-patterns are WAY older than the modern sequential transmissions. When was the first one in Formula One used? Like, in 1989?

H gearbox

Not the 1300 HP engine wheelspining and taking Senna to two wins

I like watching the boost guage on the right and how it doesn't even start boosting until he's near full throttle. Its either all the boost, or none of the boost!

Yes, that's racing! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

and they don't still?

Fue Campeón Británico de F3 , corrió en F-3000 y ganó 24 Horas de Le Mando a fines de los 80. Saludos desde Uruguay.

YOU AND ME BOTH!!! :))

Me also :-)!

I could watch an entire season.

@@celtiberian A entire decade.1986 to 1997.

I could watch a entire season of this for sure

+Dez Rosswess yes and no. Yes, it was more physically demanding in terms of raw muscle power, but nowadays it is much much more physically demanding in terms of stamina and body fitness. In other words, Mansell was overweight and Senna had really bad stamina, yet both were great. Today, they would have no chance like that. Nowadays F1 drivers experiences G forces over 5G, which is the amount where normal person would blackout. And they are experiencing it few times per lap, and for 2 hours straight. Also temperature in cockpit which is up to 60 degree celsius is pretty demanding (drivers can lost around 4kg per one GP). All in all, today it is not as power demanding as in the past, but it is very demanding due to fitness and mental challenge.

+TheOklep you sir, know your stuff

+TheOklep "Mansell was overweight and Senna had really bad stamina, yet both were great. Today, they would have no chance like that." -a very bold statement....and I LOVE it!!

+TheOklep No they don't experience 5G anymore, the car's don't have the downforce they had 5 years ago... And no, 5 G doesn't make a normal person black out, unless it is negative G, which they rarely feel, only on the top of Eau Rouge for example. The cockpit temperatures haven't changed much over the years. But in neither case it reached 60 degrees, that was in closed cockpit racing like a le mans prototype.

+Obi-Wan Kannabis they still experiencing 5G even with this worse aero restrictions. Mainly under breaking, for example at Monza

and more ENGINES like this in the future, please!

@@rfratelli AND assuming they dont get banned by the next decade or so.

lol so true

I wonder if someone like Hamilton could even handle one of these I mean he is Hamilton so I'd imagine he probably could but It still makes me wonder

@I'mSmarterThanYouAndThereIsNothingYouCanDoAboutIt formula one just needs turbo

@I'mSmarterThanYouAndThereIsNothingYouCanDoAboutIt there is no abs, no traction or launch control, no kers. You have drs. Most of the controls they have on the wheel are adjustments to suspension and angles as well as fuel deployment and battery

@I'mSmarterThanYouAndThereIsNothingYouCanDoAboutIt no, modern cars don't have any assists

I dream I'm in one of these driving my 1.7 honda civic 5 speed around town. downshifts and all. just the engine the transmission a manual and me the driver. It'd be a dream driving one of these beast around the track with a lot of practice ofcourse.

+Ferrox DSC!! :D

The best age of F1 :)

***** A lot of the drivers who drove on the old Adelaide track said it was their favourite track of the season. Can't say the same for Melbourne.

***** Adelaide was a very technical track. Melbourne is more a high speed track, which is still cool, but Adelaide was better for seeing the drivers' skills.

***** You should watch "Ayrton Senna 1986 Qualifying" on the old Adelaide track on RU-vid, it's quite amazing. I haven't played F1 97, but I play rFactor still. haha

***** Oh I get it now! haha

Shumi Jr mightve been terminated

+JakeTV Berger Jerez youtube.

thank you. I thought I was insane. I started looking up "did old f1 cars down shift to low gear from high gear and feather clutch to maximize keeping both hands on wheel?" nope

+Paulo Oliveira No,. not really,.. any on-board lap of Ayrton Senna would have been better,. IMHO. That said, this IS a brilliant clip, no two ways about it - especially since it has no [annoying] music or indeed any [distracting] narration; just pure racing, on-board. :)

Kris A I disagree for a reason: in the 1986 season, the last with the monstruous turbo cars of 1000 bhp, this was the only car with onboard cameras in that season. See this point of view, in HD, of this agressive cars is absolutely unique. The first Senna's true onboards (full speed recordings) date from 1989, with aspirated cars, that are very far of this level of power and low downforce. And Senna didn't drive on the middle of the grid...

+Paulo Oliveira If what you're saying is true, (I see no reason to disbelieve it, quite honestly), then that's a compelling argument that's very hard to disagree with. Fair comment. ;)

+Paulo Oliveira 1988 was the last season where turbos were allowed.

Tom _F1_ I know, but in the 87-88 seasons the turbo pressure was limited. See how insane the turbo pressure indicator moves in the right of the car panel... And in 1988 there was no cameras, and in 1987 the camera was with nakajima....

+der_boss and no halo or whatever you call it :)

+der_boss "Real engines".

+PilotJohnSilver There's no halo right now, what are you talking about?

+der_boss *no overtakes

+Coffee Man You clearly didn't watch f1 in the season of this video. There was a lot of racing for the lead, this race alone had 5 different race leaders. There was more overtaking done in 1986 than in 2015. And that is without DRS. You have no idea what you're talking about, so why do you even bother?

that is how they used to clean the camera lens

@@MacPac78 omg

@@MacPac78 Either that or some cameras had what appeared to be thin transparent film on the lense that wiped left or right.

Water I hope ;)

First ever ice bucket challenge

+googleboughtmee Yes, you are right.

Huh, that's cool. I was gonna ask if that was the famous "water cooled brakes" where the tank was emptied soon after the start to run the race underweight and then topped up with water and lead shot at the end to make weight. However, that was the Tyrrell car of two years prior to this.

McGuinty2 The cars that did that were the naturally aspirated V8s which couldn't compete with the savage turbos for power, so the teams ran the cars underweight in the race, and would top them up again with water before the officials scrutinised them.

That was oil that was flung out of the exhaust of the car in front of it.

The cars have sequential gearboxes now..

+Rottensteam yeah I meant the hand shifted sequentials though, not the paddle operated. I understand the paddles are faster but I love seeing them reach down to grab a gear. And hearing them rev matching. Right now they only use the clutch from a standstill.

CJSchecter96 that means they won't have two hands on the wheel

Then it was maybe 50% car, 50 % driver. Now it's 95% car, 5% driver Or more realistically 99% car, 1% driver!

Especially considering that these were modified SD analogue cameras that we transmitted to a helicopter and then back down to a hand tracked receiver. This was the start of F1 onboards with a team of 5 guys. Still so much better than GoPros wobbly footage 33 years later.

+Boteco F1 even smaller engines? :D

Manual transmission, "heel and toe".

Ora ora

+Muddassir Habib Like most people on the planet.

+flyhighpizzapie Well, Gavin doesn't shift at all!

+flyhighpizzapie and yet F1 seems to ignore that.

flyhighpizzapie not america

That's why the Aussie V8 Supercars get a higher attendance than the F1 GP every single year

@@neilr4867 or its the only thing people in Adelaide can go see all year.

Adelaide is cool but for modern f1 cars it's just to short and narrow (like monaco but with more sharp turns that require the drivers to slam their steering wheel left to right)

Adelaide deserves better than modern F1. Ask for the historic GP. That would be great. Together with some other historic series, like Group C, touring cars. But please, back to the original layout with the old kink, that was better.

You mean gear lever shifting? Because they do still have semi-automatic manual gearboxes.

yes, classic H gearing with a clutch.

I'm not that kind of guy saying like "Real men drives manual shif gearbox". But if there's one race of the whole season calendar where all drivers have to race with manual stick gear, that would be fun. I would definitely watch that like you.

It's 2017, it's not technological as much as flappy paddles, so they won't add it back for sure.

just because they don't have manual transmission but a sequential doesn't mean its easier driving style required for driving 80s vs modern cars is totally different modern f1 cars require perfect control over grip incredible precision and a healthy body to withstand the forces. the race is not changing their focus away from driving is just a stupid myth boomers like to spread to make themselves feel special :/

Imagine those 1300hp engines with modern hybrid system in a modern car.

@@KitKitChanIsaac And Red Bull would give them bigger wings. 🤣

@@JohnKickboxing And that, my friends, is how Max Verstappen broke his 19 win record from 2023 and became the only driver to win every single race in a season.💀💀💀

@@KitKitChanIsaac 👌 However best their racers are in F1, Red Bull is still engine-dependent, only excelling at making the best wings in the industry and their energy drink capable of boosting their athlete's performance to the wildest degree possible, like a bull getting wild at a matador. So they need to take over some car maker to overcome their huge obstacle.

@@JohnKickboxing Their team literally used to be called Jaguar💀

This car has a v6 turbo...

+Berend H - You're correct and I know that. I should correct my comment by saying the current quieter V6 Turbo engines.

+AriffTF2 Neither am I saying that the modern V6 turbo engines are bad in terms of their technical capability or that the sound of an F1 engine is everything nor that technology needs to remain the same forever, because that is not how I feel. :) I'm saying that the sound of an F1 engine is hugely important because it is my personal opinion. :). Plus I also think that Bernie and Co. need to listen to drivers a bit more and get rid of so much of aero grip and give the drivers more mechanical grip in their cars and get rid of DRS. Thanks for sharing your views and I agree with you mostly.

If you think the current engines aren’t loud, you need to go and see the cars in person. Trust me, when one of them flies by doing 200mph at Monza, you’d still have to cover your ears. I think the problem people have is that they aren’t high pitched enough, rather than them being quiet.

This is a 1.5L V6 turbo, while current F1 cars use 1.6L V6 turbo engines. There were also 1.5L turbocharged inline-4 engines, which are much louder, and sound WAY better than the current V6 turbo-hybrid motors.

Sem falar a queimada de embreagem que ele tinha que dar pra tirar o motor da zona de lag. O turbo só funcionava com eficiência em uma fração minúscula do conta giro. Preste atenção tem várias vezes que o giro grita mas ele nem mexe no câmbio. Já o Senna meu amigo, ganhava corrida com esse mesmo carro e ainda punha ele de lado nas entradas e saídas de curva. Como dizem os flamenguistas “outro patamar”.

@@henriquemariusso4372 Eu reparei, a tocada do Senna é muito mais agressiva. Más mesmo assim, é lindo ver e ouvir

That's a bargain for a race car,let alone a classic F1 car. EDIT:I didn't notice that you wrote "Late '87"

+Tuppoo94 are you talking about on his revmatch on the downshifts. I found that odd as well.

+JTthestreetking No, the rev counter needle, which I suppose is on the left, doesn't seem to follow engine RPM. Also, I hear him switching gears when his hand is nowhere near the gear lever.

+Tuppoo94 It's just the audio synchronization, it must be because of how old the video is and the fact that it was one of the very first cameras to go live in Formula 1 History.

Alain Marie Pascal Prost Interesting, because there's a video here on RU-vid called "F1 Turbo - The most scary race cars ever - Feel the Torque" where the sound is perfectly synced. The video is from the same race as this one.

+GhostsKuriboh That's probably not it, because you can hear at 0:05 that he revs his engine but the gauge on the dash reacts at 0:09, so there's a 4 second delay.