my favorite part is that the lindworm actually agrees to taking off his own skin nine times instead of just... tearing off her dresses himself and then eating her. He may be a bloodthirsty dragon, but he's still a gentleman.
Gotta give props to the witch. She gives clear instructions, and then when she learns those instructions haven't been followed, she helps out the person most in danger from it. No evil laughter or karmic punishment, just honest help and advice.
@@jenneacubero1036 I mean, yes, but also, if a witch gives you super explicit instructions about what NOT to do as part of whatever thing you kind of have to assume that Terrible Consequences are implied.
Witch: So you'll wear 10 dresses, whip him, dump the milk on him and then give him a hug. Peasant Girl: A hug? Witch: I said all that and you question the hug? Its not necessary but the lad probably needs it.
@Frostgiant According to a youtube video i watched showing how terrible of a dom is Christian from fifty shades, after care is necessary especially for the sub who might feel shitty about the whole s and m thing.
Head Canon: The ghosts of the two other princesses now haunt the castle. They’re pretty nice to everyone, but they won’t stop giving the prince shit for eating them
Continuation Head Canon: On the other hand, the Ghost Princess are super nice to the Lindworm's giving them remarks like: *Oh you're so beautifull and charming, we wish we wre your mommies, but at last not all of us can be lucky enought to find a magical witch to save us and be married. Isn't that right, peasent girl?* *At least I'm alive and not a childless ghost hag* *At least we still look young!* *At least I didnt die virgin!* *Why are mommies figthing, dad?* *...I will tell you latter*
This is weird, because there’s *another* Norwegian fairy tale about a childless queen who eats two flowers and gets a beautiful child and an ugly child, only in that story the two kids really love each other and the ugly child winds up rescuing the beautiful child from trolls. I guess eating flowers is just A Thing in Norwegian fairy tales
Hellboy adapted that story and I always found that version to be oddly sad and beautiful. I won't say why exactly for the sake of spoilers, but it definitely doesn't include much of a happy ending.
Parties with a dragon are the best parties. Also, that dragon is their future ruler. You would not want to upset you future ruler (who is also happens to be a *dragon* ) by any rudeness, would you?
The King: "Now, listen, my son is a bit sensitive about his appearance. So I want you all to treat him as if he is normal. And if you don't, well, let's just say you'll find out what happens to his first bride."
i mean tecnicly it was four times, that boy still has white glowy hair, so i bet my but he has this whole arc about learing to controll his dragon powers
Yeah, that....may be Red's version. She tends to sanitize myths to keep her ratings safe. IRL, a queen being childless would be grounds for her to be divorced.
You should hear the version with the onions instead of roses. The queen forgot to peel the first onion before eating it. Fits in with the layers theme.
Honestly not surprised that this is Norway's response to marrying a dragon. "Remember child, when you marry your dragon husband, you have to whip the fear of Thor into him to turn him into a real man." "Sounds...strange, but okay strange lady in the woods." How much you want to bet that the old lady in the woods was Odin? Also, never apologize for that song choice, it gave me the best of amusement.
@@festethephule7553 yeah, in the way that you would think eating both flowers would result in a son and a daughter, even if the daughter starts out a lindworm
Big difference between a Witch and a Hag, lot of people don't get that. If Tia Dalma is a witch, (albiet with a swamp voodoo schtick) then if they are more evil and less attractive, that is generally the tell tale sign of a hag
For those folks saying she could have warned people about the downsides. It could be a little tricksy not disclosing major effects. but a kind and wise old woman might have had the grimoir or teacher she learned the information about the stuff prior didn't disclose the information about the Lindworm but did have information about dealing with lindworms.
A prince, trying to explain why he hires a peasant women to whip him and douse him with milk to his concerned servents: "Have you ever heard of the Lindworm?"
@@danjudex2475 There’s a large group of fairy tales like _Peau d’âne_ (Doneyskin), The She-Bear, _Allerleirauh_ etc (Aarne-Thompson folktale classification type 510B) which would be rather more fitting.
@Soft Squishy Ducky little red riding hood was a warning for young girls not to stray and be vary often strange men. The wolf eating her was an allegory for sexual assault. The “stay on the path” is both literal about the woods and following the right path in life. So it could have the shadow of furry on it, but a very dark one
I like how the story mentions that: "Yay they have a beautiful son! Who goes out and finds a wife until some dragon 'says me first'" and then the second son is never mentioned again. Whether irrelevant or boring,I think the singular thing that started all this becoming overshadowed is hilarious.
Technically, Red implies the second prince is the bait. King: I have a son that needs marrying. Princess: (sees handsome human prince) I'll take him! (shows up, sees Lindworm) King: Ah, I see you've met my son. Princess: wait, where's Prince Handsome? King: Oh, I didn't say he was the one you were going to marry.
@@seemo5789 there's a hypothesis in neuroscience called the "Cognitive Zombie Hypothesis" or something similar, that states that most people or a large percentage of humanity aren't actually sentient, and have just learned behaviour that makes them seem like people and who actively live out their lives not making a direct decision once, as mental zombies holding society aloft with effectively slave labor without knowing it. Do you know someone helplessly stuck in a stressful job with no hobbies except for t.v. watching and barely any personality? They might be one, and because they and their ancestors were able to live out their lives without evolving true sentience, only learning behaviour from others, they never needed to evolve sentience, and never did.
This was interesting to hear. The version of the story I've known was that the queen was told to eat two onions to conceive twins, but she had to ba sure to peel them first. The queen was so eager to have a child, that she forgot to peel the first onion, but took the time to peel the second. This in turn correlated to when the maiden requested the lindworm to strip layers of his skin, cause it was like peeling off those onion layers the queen neglected to take off herself
Yeah I was under the impression it was supposed to be two onions as well. Not sure where the roses came from. The story kind of loses its "poetic symmetry" or whatever without the onions. Still a very entertaining video nonetheless.
It would have been a real twist if all he needed was just a hug, and the wipping was just the Old Lady's kink and thought it would be funny to tell the girl.
The lye was to dry out and crack the skin. Whip was to rip the skin. The milk was to exfoliate the final layer gently so that the removal prosses didn't kill him.
@@MogofWar i more laugh when the lindworm is asked to remove its skin as she removes the layers and he just says yes. Like not even questioning how to remove its skin or anythin
@@ilopominecrafter Well, some folk misconceptions were that Snakes could shed and redon skin layers like clothing... And even thought it was actually known that molting was actually a one-way process, shedding skins like suits was a well established mythological motif by that point.
I love how this king looked at the dragon after he ate his first bride and was like "well surely if we do the exact same thing something different will happen".
"Happily ever after except those two previous princesses who are now dead." Oh, you forgot the newlyweds once they have to deal with two kingdoms who want the princes head. No biggy.
I mean depending on how close the other kingdoms are you could just say they died on the road or something, maybe even say you already caught and executed the bandits responsible for brownie points.
The lyndworm prince may very well still retain his powers, apart from flight and breathing fire, if he's leading the army, all they have to do is just follow through the gap that is the carnage the prince leaves behind.
@@kaischreurs2488 there's a book where that happens sort of, Princess of the Midnight Ball, retelling 12 Dancing Princesses, where a LOT of kingdoms are like "our sons went to your kingdom to answer the shoe question and died, time for war."
Red: “Under no circumstances is she to eat both roses.” Me: “she ate both roses didn’t she.” Red: “both roses were so delicious she ate both.” Me: “sounds about right.”
@@thehistoryandbooknerd8979 Roses actually grow a type of fruit called a rose hip. Rose hips are used in all kinds of desserts and can be made into jam or marmalade. There is also such a thing as rose hip soup, which I am really curious about what that tastes like.
There is another version of the story where she has to eat magic onions, but she's so excited about having children that she eats the first one without even bothering to peel it! It tastes awful, so she carefully peels the second onion. Prince Lindorm has to shed his skin in the same way that you have to peel an onion before you eat it.
I love the little word bubble of the now freed prince saying it was "true Love's kiss" because admitting as to how it went down really might raise some questions
The version of this story that I read was slightly different: instead of two flowers, there would be two onions. The onions were exactly the same and did not decide the gender of the child, but the witch warned the queen to peel the onions before eating them. The first child was born a lindworm because the queen only remembered the advice after she'd already eaten one of the onions unpeeled. Another difference was that all of the brides were random peasant girls. The last one was actually volunteered for the marriage by her evil stepmom, who hoped she'd get eaten. A third little difference was that he wasn't whipped after shedding skins, but scrubbed with lye & brushes. It's fun to compare how fairytales evolved and how versions can vary!
That is the version I read too. Also instead of whipping the lindworm after the shedding of the skins the shepherdess had to tackle the lump of flesh that was left of the lindworm and scrub it harshly with water and a bar of soap until the lump of flesh was completely gone and the prince's human body was revealed. This apparently took all night, and by morning the girl had scrubbed away all the lindworm flesh. The two brides before the shepherdess were not princesses but peasant girls from the kingdom.
I was listening to this while walking my dog and it took everything I had not to burst into scream-laughter the second she started singing. Holy shit she sent me
As weird as this story is, I can't help but feel how iconic it is. "A bride for me before a bride for you" being spoken by an evil monster to a prince encapsulates that fairy tale feel. I guess this really proves what red was saying about those roles in fairy tales.
3:40 i misheard "lye and milk" for "lion milk" and i spent an agonizing 5 minutes trying to figure out how the hell are they gonna milk a lion, let alone survive trying to.
It's a shame dragon brothers are never chill until they loose 7 layers of skin and get a bunch of milk splashed on their face. The things men will do to avoid therapy.
There's a lindworm in Hilda who lives on an island and attacks people who disturb her because she has social anxiety and just wants to be left alone to garden in peace and honestly that's just goals
The fact that the male rose was eaten second caused both babies to be male, makes me wonder if the red rose was eaten first and then the white one if the human child and lindworm would have been daughters, so "A groom for me before a groom for you"
In my opinion her hugging the Lindworm is more a kindness thing then anything. Like seeing a creature that malevolent being that low and, even though the Lindworm is dangerous, she still has the kindness to show him empathy. And thus red putting “true love’s kiss” as his dialogue in the video, at least to me makes a lot of sense.
Just saying but I think she put in the "true loves kiss" part because it would sound like she either tortured Him or there was some bdsm involved so he made up an excuse
I think both are true. She literally whipped him into ship but she's not heartless and is all, "I did this cuz I love you. I just want you to know that "
Hopefully he gets his own fairytale somewhere else? After all, now that the dragon-prince is married, his brother can leave and find his own bride, right? That's what I'm going to tell myself anyway!
@@garvinanders2355 on the contrary, I'm loving the hell out of it 😆 Besides, how can I hate it when he clearly looks like he got the hugz and affection he never knew he badly needed? As far as I've know about it, she's a true responsible dom.
Two dead princesses aside, this actually went better than I thought. I was expecting the siblings to be conjoined or have multiple personalities or be conjoined with multiple personalities.
So she literally whips the Lindworm into shape, then hugs him, and then turns into a super cute boy who (and I'm blaming your art for this) looks like he's never been hugged before (and probably hasn't) and is currently trying to come to terms with the feelings of loneliness he didn't know he had repressed all his life. Huh. I never knew "emotionally vulnerable dragon boy" was something I needed in my life. Thank you, Red!
I wonder if it's a metaphor for the civilising effect of the woman in the marriage, the lindworm is defeated through her asserting her dominance and disciplining him. Was this secretly marriage advice?
@@georgethompson1460 Possibly. Though now that I think about it, "beat your husband and then show him affection afterwards to control him" might not be the best advice.
It’s kinda his fault though, it’s not like the queen exiled him or anything. He was born and promptly ran off while his mom was still processing “I birthed a dragon and then a normal kid, wat”
@@thesquishedelf1301 I suppose there might have been more to that. Obviously she wasn't giving birth alone (being the queen and all) and we don't know what the midwife thought about a serpent. Or the queen herself, for that matter. I could imagine at least someone's first reaction to be "OMG a lindworm, getitoffgetitoff!!!" and then the lindworm just flees all the hazzle (and possible beating)
I assume the first rose prepped the queen's oven for boy shaped buns. The second rose just failed and turned into a vague magical mass. I also assume that when a witch tells you not to do something, it because of highly complicated magical reasons that are similar to the install instructions on a skyrim mod. THIS IS HOW YOU GET FACES WITHOUT SKIN TEXTURES PEOPLE.
"Magic is like Skyrim modding" is a pretty apt metaphor for how these stories usually go, actually. Do it right, and it vastly improves everything. Do it wrong, and _freaky shit_ happens.
First rose set the "child" flag to 'daughter'. Second rose caused a value duplication error where the new variable got set to "son" but the existing "daughter" one got incremented past its allocated memory and wound up pointing to "lindwurm".
"Don't eat both roses." What's the worst that could happen? *Queen gives birth to twins* That went different than I thought it would. *One of them is a dragon* Yeah, I forgot this was a fairy tale.
@@dylantennant6594 there's a lot of flowers you can eat. Rose petals and violets are often used as edible decoration, but you can also eat dandelions (the whole plant even, IIRC) and many others. You can even get rose water and I've seen syrup for lemonade for it in an international market store once. Do your homework beforehand though, because some flowers are poisonous. Most won't kill you but you'll have a bad time.
Interesting, I will have to try it some time. That sounds quit pleasant in an natural way. And trust me I know. I live in a part of the world where fox glove grows naturally. I have scene people accidentally ingest some and it’s not a good sight.
We just not gonna mention how the second prince just suddenly fade out of the story? Poor dude got to be main protagonist for like 30 seconds before the Lindworm slide in to the focus. Also, damn that was one kinky way to break the curse; strip tease + milk play + whipping.
King: "Son, you are grounded, stop eating your brides!" Lindworm: "You dare speak to me in this tone mortal?" King: *Picks up the belt* Lindworm: "ᴳᵒᶦⁿᵍ ᵗᵒ ᵐʸ ʳᵒᵒᵐ, ˢᵉᵉ ʸᵃ ᵈᵃᵈ"
I love how all of us are like "BUT WHITE ROSE??" like fairy tales actually makes sense. None of us are questioning how shedding, whipping, milk, and human affection turned the lindworm human.
Can we just appreciate how much fun Red seems to have had singing in the end there? I LOVED the story and yet, the amount of amusement vibes I got from the song was the best part of the video for me!
@Ivan Vozjakov the issue is that Disney makes those stories very difficult for anyone else to adapt into something new, even though they're public domain. Copyright law is a bitch.
@Ivan Vozjakov I'm not saying what they make is necessarily bad, I mean for example, I like their movie Hercules despite the laundry list of historical and cultural inaccuracies in the movie including the freaking title. I'm just saying that if Disney sees a way to profit off a story, they will take action.
I love how the king is smiling in all four weddings while everyone else's expressions change at least once depending on how many princesses the lindworm has eaten.
Putting it in that context, the hug makes so much more sense. First a strip tease to tantalize and presumably tucker out the partner, followed by some whipping and mild humiliation (I'm not sure how else to explain dumping milk on someone's face), followed by some gentle hugs. One Heck of a wedding night.
*Lyndworm* : Hey baby take off some layers 😏 *Peasant girl* : You first 😉 *Lyndworm* : I-I’m naked *Peasant girl, taking out the whip* : Did I stutter? 🙂
For some reason, I'm now picturing this peasant girl dressed in what looks to be a massive dress that puts Marie Antoinette to shame, holding a whip, posing like a dominatrix, and gazing at us, the viewer, with the most Yandere face imaginable.
Fun fact: as the lindworm was firstborn, he's now first in line to the succession, meaning the poor peasant girl the King wanted to sacrifice to a monster? The future Queen of the entire kingdom. P.S.: Paradox, go make this an event chain for Crusader Kings!
@Jack Newmark You could also have some fun with the "Hurrah! Princes have all the fun!" way that Corin in The Horse and His Boy takes this kind of news. "No ruling responsibilities AND a dragon sibling? Best twist ever." :)
I might learn how CK3 modding works just to make it. Not that I'm sure how the lindworm part would work, since CK3 uses 3D models now...he'd need to not be a character before he turned human I guess? Maybe?
@@naj9824 And it's less popular/in the spotlight these days. Plus, I remember reading stuff in dev diaries about CK3 being easier to mod. Of course, I'd only need a 2D lindworm portrait if I went into CK2...
Yeah, I was reading the original Brothers Grimm, and there's a LOT of "person does a lot of murders but then other stuff happens and the murderer lives happily ever after."
Ironically, the true love's kiss is mostly a Disney thing, it is surprisingly uncommon in the traditional fairy tales (although love having something to do with breaking a curse is a common trope, but it is hardly ever a kiss that will do the trick). In the Grimm's Fairy Tales version of the frog king, the frog is not changed back into a human by a true love's kiss, but actually by her picking him up and throwing him against a wall when the princess finally can't take it anymore after reluctantly putting up with the deal having him as a companion in return for him getting her golden ball back from the bottom of the well. In Snowwhite and the seven dwarfs, the prince doesn't kiss the poisoned Snowwhite, but begs the dwarfs to let him take the glass coffin with Snowwhite with him so that he can at least look at her. When he transports her to his home castle, the coffin slips and falls of the horse, which knocks the bite of cursed poison apple out of her mouth and brings her back to life. Really the only traditional fairy tale that actually has the kiss trope is Dornröschen (Sleeping Beauty), and I'm not sure whether we can call this one a true loves kiss, since the curse has been lasting for 100 years and the prince who kisses her has just seen her for the first time.
I like this story. The lindworm (aside from being a dragon; I love dragons!) is relatable having been abandoned and ultimately screwed over from birth. I like the relationship between the peasant girl, ultimately ending happily. Warms my heart.
I mean, a pair of brothers who are knight and dragon mount, fighting evil? The high fantasy novel practically writes itself. (Heck, knights being bonded to dragons from a young age as battle brothers is basically a Thing in a certain region of my DnD setting.)
@@camblycreeper7999 They could have pulled an Oedipus and had the Lindworm try to kidnap and marry the prince without either of them realizing they are siblings. It's actually a bit strange that the dragon knows about his royal lineage anyway considering he was just a baby when he ran away and the queen didn't tell anyone.
So the way to defeat a Lindworm involves: a long drawn out strip tease, use of a bedroom whip, some milk play, and finally some wholesome cuddling at the end of all that! XD
I don't appreciate the combination of whipping with soap and flaying, I may share the colors of Slaanesh, but I ain't that type of kinky. The milk is questionable...
@@nullpoint3346 Oh it’s way worse than that. Lye isn’t soap. It’s USED in soap, but until it’s combined with fats it’s a SUPER caustic chemical. Like burn skin off and leave massive scars kind of caustic. The milk is actually super important, because it would neutralize the acid of the lye to a certain extent.
unrelated note that your comment popped in my brain: The upside down jug with two hands kind of looks like all those womb diagrams. Obviously not exactly but..
That's exactly what happens in a comic drawn by an artist! Unfortunately I don't remember the artist's name, so I'll have to search it up later. Edit: I found it! The comic is called Bride of the Rose Beast by mishacakes on Tumblr.
1:53 This is one of the reason why I love _Dealing With Dragons_ where early in the book the main character gets some very specific instructions to follow to make it to her destination safe. And when a clearly magical temptation occurs that would make our heroine stray from said very specific instructions, she basically goes "Nope! This is clearly the plot hook to some cursed fairy tale BS that I have no interest in being part of! Good day!" and continues on her merry way.
I think I found the appropriateness to the fairy tale funnier than her rendition of it, but whatever. It's still great. Think Red will ever make an album of these?
Not asking questions you don't actually want answered is a very important life lesson (and that goes tripple for asking google for image search results)
And so children, the moral of the story is that sometimes... *Dons reading glasses, licks finger, turns the page, squints* You need to, 'strip that cutie bare and really break him in with that rough stuff, but don't forget the aftercare'?? Huh...
