CNN revisits the vicious, horrific killings by Charles Manson's followers, 45 years later. CNN Special Report - Face of Evil: The Charles Manson Murders. Tuesday, August 18, 2015.
I grew up in Los Angeles and was 11 years old when this happened. We lived about 15 miles from the crime scene. I was terrified. I remember Susan Atkins yelling to a television reporter, "We're coming for your children next". I could go on and on. So tragic. On a side note, Thank you Sara Sidner for covering this terrible story. I just love you.
I have two problems with this video: There was no mention of Steven Parent, the young man who had spent the evening visiting the Tate's groundskeeper and was the first of the murder victims. He was in his car and pleaded with Tex Watson and said he wouldn't say anything. Then they shot him anyway. This program never said a word about this poor young man.. Then there was the part where Sharon Tate's father having to clean up his slaughtered daughter's blood. How could anyone expect him to do that?
Yes that was awful & that owner ( of cielo Dr,) was prob one of the reason the place was chosen as he had been rude too Manson.How he made Sharon's parents pay for cleaning is just terrible. How inhumane.☮️♥️
Rudy altobelli was the owner and he thought the victims brought it on themselves! Demanding it be cleaned up otherwise he would sue for damages! What a p.o.s@@sharonletchford9375
+Cisco Budge you are not only racist but an idiot as well. I could have a more intelligent conversation with Manson than you. And that is not saying much. Stop trolling and get a life.
to think of sharon begging to stay alive long enough to give birth to her baby is horrorfying, stomach churning. that fact alone is enough to keep these people in prison until they join susan atkins in hell!
Kelli Reynolds thank you. it just disgusts me that manson and his fellow killers continue to live on and on decades after their crimes. like jason and freddy krueger, they just won't die!
+lisa bradford yes its terrible that they were not put to death many years ago like they should have been! instead us tax payers get to pay for their food , housing , dental , exc.. they are all getting old now and hopefully will soon join Susan Adkins in the depths of hell :) that bitch is burning as we speak
Kelli Reynolds yes i really don.t appreciate footing the bill for the likes of them.too bad they weren't gassed before the supreme court struck down capital punishment. because of that, as vincent bugliosi said, they beat the rap especially manson.
Bruce Lee choreographed a fight scene for a movie with Sharon Tate and Nancy Quan. It is a pity Bruce hadn't been at the party. The outcome may well have been very different.
bunch of hippies that claim "mindcontrol" by Manson caused them to kill like bloodthirsty robots can only be psychopath...but one of the woman he send to kill was a human being with a conscience,,,namely Linda Kasabian.....your argument about military and FBI is a totally different scenario, and has nothing to do with these cult killings
Manson did, however, drive the crew to the LaBianca home, he went inside and tied them up and returned to the car and told them that they (the victims) were ready. He said this himself in many interviews.
I agree with you, he became evil, and why is he saying it Manson fault and not his mother's. He sounds like he was there when Manson was growing up. Manson's mother did play a part she went to jail, was a prostitute and then rejected him. Maybe that's why he turned into the rotten kid.
It was of its time. To truly understand it you would have to be there in that locality under that political climate, at that time. Who woulda believed 15 yrs ago that people would support Donald Trumps vile regressive, degenerate bullshit ? Manson himself, his followers & the political climate in the locality are all books in their own right. If you wanna keep it simple, life can be a bitch n sometimes its stranger than fiction. If yer Christian then thank God you can see where they went wrong n its not a path for you coz in the right set of circumstances at the right time almost any human being is capable of being a complete monster.
Could someone please explain to me why there are those who will sympathise, justify, and make excuses for Leslie Van Houten, saying shit like "She should be paroled...." and "She only stabbed a dead woman....." (like THAT makes it OK ????)- But at the same time, bash people like Barbra Hoyt and Catherine Share, WHO KNEW MANSON BETTER THAN ANYONE, and call them liars and accuse them of trying to profit or get attention? Van houten, Atkins and Krenwinkle kill = Sympathy and excuses. Hoyt, Share (and I'm sure others) turn their lives around, and when asked tell the truth = Condemnation. Go figure...
+Joseph Rivett Honestly, I've noticed for a long time Leslie, more than anyone gets sympathy. John Waters even befriended her in prison. You know why I think that is honestly? Because she was a very pretty female. Bugliosi talked about male jurors staring at her in the courtroom. I honestly think that's the core of it. Look at whats her face, Amanda Knox, she had a fan club. Same w/ Jodi Arias. It's sickening as hell, but it happens a lot.
I wish they wouldn't gloss over the other victims besides Sharon--they didn't even mention Steven Parent's name. Those other people's lives were precious to their families; they had hopes and dreams too.
@@thereseember2800 well you have multiple factors one tex was into selling drugs and doing his own thing before manson.he burned bernard crow.who manson shot and wounded in self defence getting capi back(whom he thought was a black panther.and charlie was worried they would retaliate so he got the straight satans to gaurd the ranch.hinmann burn them for mecaline which chalie came in to help collect after things went south chopped off his ear.now they still need the straight satans cash.now again tex was a drug dealer.also seabring was aswell sold out of his hair salon.personally i think there was a deal that went south between them and thats why he went yo collect.things go south yet again and well we know what happened.they again still needed the bikers vash in comes the labiancas whom live very close to the clubhouse manson tied up robbed and went to pay them and the other killed them.now adding the bloody graffity was a way to add a copy vat geel to get bobby out whom went down for the hinmann murder driving his car whom he was gonna sell or trade to give to the bikers.umm best thing i can say is ex con charlie is in the middle of a bunch of dumbass kids trying to wheel and deal and when things go bad they come to the ex con.and manson did 22 years prior so ratting is out of the question.i mean if anyone is dumb enough to beli e helter skelter then blame paul macartney.umm without having to read through multiple books id say check out the doc manson in his final words and it lays it out good enough.
Alisa Statman was not a family friend! She only knew Patti. She didn't even know Sharon or Doris! Debra Tate should be speaking about this, not Statman!
If I was a father of a murdered child, and I would have to clean my own child's blood off the floor, like Sharon Tate's father had 2 do, I think I would rather burn the damn house down to the ground first.
None of them should EVERYWHERE be released. The families have had to go through hell with the paroles for decades, they should never have had access to the outside world.
i dont't understand why Alisa Statman is giving interviews about this case! She wasn't there, she was a child back then, she wasn't a family friend in the right words! , she is just obsessed with the case....it doesn't feel right... how is it possible that she owns all those pictures of Sharon?
Andrew B i read that she was the life partner of patti tate, sharon's sister. plus she and patti's daughter, brie, co wrote a book together a few years back called "restless souls"
+lisa bradford "she" and Pattys daughter? You mean Patti and her ex husband, Don Fords daughter. Alisa was just a stalker who stalked her way into Pattis life by renting the death house on Cielo dr where she met Bill Nelson, whom was the ultimate stalker. Anyway Bill introduced Alisa to a detective whom had a bunch of Tate family pics that he lifted from the crime scene and then Alisa stole those pics from detective and then used them to get her foot in the door with Patti who was divorced with kids and not in the best financial condition hence Patti offering to take care of her. Poor Patti had no choice but to get chummy with Statman. Patti was straight and most likely had to....... with Statman for financial security. That is my hypothesis .
My thoughts exactly!! Alisa Statman is, and always has been - a stalking, scandalous snake!! And I'm not trying to be disrespectful; that's just the truth! If people don't understand what I'm talking about, research and do a little digging on Alisa Statman. Debra Tate is a GREAT place to start for 1st hand knowledge & info regarding Alisa Statman because Alisa manipulated Paul & Patti Tate & stole all these photos, recordings, belongings, etc from the Tate family to benefit herself. She's a piece of work. When I just saw her in the beginning of this documentary, I thought - oh, heck no!! I stopped this video like 2min. in to comment about Alisa "Scandalous" Statman. She's not their "friend" - she's a foe .. and she's certainly NOT family to the Tate's. Just had to add my 2cents .. now I'll continue to watch this. ✌
Well unfortunately I believe when Patti died her kids got real close to Patti and then Patti was there for them, so that is why she is considered "family". Patti was in need of money so her "GF" Alisa got her in to do extra work. Like for instance Patti Tate was a bailiff on "Night Court" (I think thats the name of the show- I saw it on youtube ) anyway, since she got her those gigs it meant that Patti was eligible for health insurance from The Motion Picture Guild. You have to work so many hours to get it. Even though I do NOT like her I am thankful that she cared for the kids and took care of them after her death. She had no biz writing a book IMO thats for sure...
I find it odd that Sharon's father had to clean her blood. This was where a famous director and his wife lived; someone couldn't have been hired to clean that up? Very sad.
One of the journalists just said that times were different back then. The police didn't have a clean up crew. So the owner dealt with it-by having Sharon's father clean the mess up. Then sued the Tate family.
What's wrong with this presentation are the references not matching up with the descriptions. A photo of Barker Ranch is shown as Spahn's Ranch, then a photo of Spahn's Ranch is followed with the description of "Death Valley," but that is where Barker Ranch is. What else can be expected from CNN?
Never in life must we forget the evil that showed it's face during the horrific crimes. Each person involved is culpable. Manson and his minions each deserve to die behind bars. Had it not been for a fluke in the California judicial system all of these animals would already be long gone, via the gas chamber. Death sentences appropriately given. It's a shame we have had to feed, clothe, and house these sorry excuses of twisted DNA for this long. They ALL should be just a memory of evil instead of a living breathing reminder. Never will true justice be served for the poor family and friends of the victims.
P.s Shockingly the marriage between whatever her name is, Star (?) didn't happen. Apparently Charles found out that Star just wanted to marry him so that when he dies she can put his brain on display for $$$. Cause all great marriages are based on organ value.
Rae MacKay any idea that Manson's body/brain would be put on display for money is completely preposterous. this story is pure tabloid nonsense. in reality, Star stands to make millions by owning the rights to Charles Manson's image. The money would come copyright royalties.
Why are these horrific bottom feeders still even permitted news time? And after four DECADES? Don't we have really urgent world issues on our plate? 45 years later Manson still disgusts...what else is new?
and 45 years later the youth are learning that this was an early false flag.they needed to get rid of the antiwar frèe thinking loving hippy movement.find a crazy looking dead eyed drugged up toss his pic onlife mag and bam!they got em...well you at least thats for sure.ATWA!!!
fact of the matter is those Kids then didn't decide to go out one day and kill innocent people. Manson knew what he was doing and knew from all those years of getting into trouble how to do it. He said throughout numerous interviews that he admits to nothing and sees nothing going on around him. So if someone is being beaten and he's asked. He wont' say a word. So you know damn well he orchestrated the whole mess. The man just lives in his own head where its safe for him.
Fast forward 7 years from your post....Leslie Van Houten was given the death penalty, then commuted to life in prison to eventual parole in 2023, gotta love that American Judicial System
@@shanebriggs1039 well, 1st, get the death penalty out of the way. Then, there is no real evidence that she killed anyone. Based on the autopsy, most of her stabs appear to be post mortem. So, did Leslie stab a dead body. Maybe she is guilty of violation of a corpse and accessory to murder. Leslie has done 50 years, and shown remorse and rehabilitation
Eerily enough, on the other side of the Atlantic The Beatles photo for their iconic "Abbey Road" record cover was taken the day before the Tate murders on August 8th 1969.
I would like to see a movie or book about the early lives of the victims and perps leading up to this collision course of crime. What kind of people were these criminals before getting involved with the "Family"? What events in their lives led them to join the counterculture in the first place? Not everyone in the 1960's left conventional life.
Very interesting. Didn't realise how good Sharon Tate's father was. Unfortunately the L.A police force would never have solved this enormous tragedy ~ another fact that doesn't seem to be well known either.
I think that too much significance is given to Manson's "charisma" and manipulative power. He was just a pompous twit with drugs and a lot of years on his followers. Those followers had tremendous character flaws or they would never have been influenced by the likes of that degenerate. It is one thing to give someone your money or work for him for free and an entirely different thing to obey an order to kill, those people should never be let out of prison, there is something wrong with them.
I wish what happened in once upon a time in Hollywood was reality. Poor people, always gets me wondering how there could be such sickening human beings
cubomania3 Manson was no Beachboy and sure the Jews want the money. They will walk on anyone to get it. Melcher was no different. Manson must have had something or he wouldn't been at his home. It is just too bad Melcher had leased the home out and was gone.
it's ridiculous that Guinn is considered somekind of the most current authority on the Manson case. his info is all biased and pointed with an obvious conclusion
In all seriousness though Manson was a sick bastard... He was one of the most creepiest individuals ever to walk in shoe leather, the eyes are the giveaway, total evil...
Calling Charles Manson total evil is like calling jesus the devil....oh wait he is. You people should kill yourselves if you think that Charles Manson is guilty of anything, you live in the prosecutor's back pocket.
I think it would be different and a lot less bad stuff would happen, why did we decide to destroy the Earth? I think if Charlie wants to be free that California should let him out now and pay him whatever he's owed. A $1000.00 dollars a day, for every day he's served. California is falling off the fault-bankrupt-might as well join Mexico, Washington and Oregon want to join Canada.
tex and buddha, you are both shit talking Manson wannabees. He talks nonsense disguised as wisdom and now just from reading his crap, he has you doing it. Geraldo had it right, many years ago, "You're a mass murderin' dog, Charlie" The good part is old Chuck will be leaving the planet soon, and you guys can go find another phony hero to worship. Dang, too bad they already offed Ted Bundy, he was innocent as hell too you know.
Hello, does anyone know the name of the News Anchor at 7:40 announcing the news of the Tate Murders? There was a news clip on here that showed just that clip & I don't remember/can't remember how to find it, the search words. I can't remember the Channel, CBS, NBC, etc. I wanted to watch the clip again, may anyone PLEASE help me? I'm Canadian & born way after 1969. I hope you may PLEASE Help me, anyone. With Sincere Thanks, Michael Labine :-)
I believe manson went with his evil crew and tied the couple up and walked out and told the others to finished it by killing them then sits in the car with linda then takes off on his evil crew and they have to hitch hike. Manson was the full orcastration in all the murders linda did not kill but was at the Scene of them all and saw everything that went down and new manson well he told her to go kill some actor at a motel slit his through but she could not kill. Manson is a munipulater and has to get innocent people high on drugs to kill for him and do his dirty work as well they all got there punishment and manson is not innocent he deserves life in prison he is a nutcase needs mental help stating he is Jesus Christ really.
Actually it isn't..many have to clean their murdered loved ones crime scene after the fact...I have a friend whose husband committed suicide with a shotgun and her family had to cleanup afterwards.,also keep in mind this was 1969 so there weren't that many companies or whoever you hire to do this...As horrible as it is I also think a lot of people don't want strangers to do that...
Why does California allow those convicted of 1st degree murder the opportunity for parole? Mandatory minimum should be life w/o parole. Completely asinine to put the victims' families through these hearings.
In “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood” Brad Pitts Stuntman character took care of them incl “Tex” met his match, plus his dog helped too. The Beach Boys were very lucky esp Dennis Wilson who punched out Manson for threatening his family. Manson was a crazy psychopath criminal, he told prison psychologist, how easy it was to manipulate his followers, young people lost soles.
didnt Ronald defeo Jr say something about hearing Echoes of Charles Manson in the house in the Amityville Horror documentry in Charles Manson has the same wild eyed looked as Ronald defeo Jr
at 5:34 it looks like the same guy on another you tube video talking about the amityville horror case talking about that ronnie defaoe . i swear it looks just like him and if it is does this guy happen to know both the victims on both murder sites? that is freaking weird.
+Amonthered Not really, That's Jeff Guinn. He has written several books including "Go Down Together" which is a great read on Bonnie and Clyde and the Barrow Gang. Does he say he knows the victims or just knows about the victims because of his research?
northern light honestly i cant remember since it has been a while but im going to assume he knows them from the research but he does look like a guy from another documentary. but i guess some people have doubles of them selves .
family had to clean up crime scene coz rudi altobeli owned the cielo drive residence and he wanted the place cleaned up fast so he could rent it out as fast as he could
While I appreciated some of the footage that I hadn't seen before, I was so annoyed by Jeff Gunn, I could barely stand it. His smug face makes me want to punch it. Manson is one of the most evil people who ever lived? There are banal people walking the earth right now who are more evil, who have killed more people, destroyed more lives than Manson ever could. Manson is a sad, pathetic psychopath who conned a group of wounded people into thinking he was god. The whole thing is unspeakable tragic, but he's not the face of evil.
I'm with you. I just watched the Dateline special that claimed it was going to have new information about Manson's childhood. Gunn disputes Manson's mother was a prostitute, but gives no evidence to support this. Gunn also claims Manson was raised in a "loving " home. While his aunt was supposedly very sweet, it couldn't counteract his grandfather's mental verbal abuse, or the abuse he received in various reform schools/boys homes. I can't stand people like Gunn who think being contrary is the same as being interesting and insightful.
That "LSD overdose" is such a stupid thing, omg. But nevertheless, more than a thousand micrograms or whatever they put in her food is inhuman, I can understand why she freaked out and asked to be delivered to a hospital.
If Charles Manson did not order the killings, he did absolutely nothing to help himself but give interview after interview saying things and acting out to shock and frightened people all over the world. Like he loved being that crazy evil guru so many people believed he was. He was not as crazy as he pretended to be. The bizarre behavior and the way they laughed about the victims and at their families is something that innocent people would not do.
Is it just me or does anyone else notice when Manson speaks his voice sounds just like George W Bush. I swear the voice itself sounds just like Bush jr.
I agree to this extent, it is a rather superficial and almost trivial production over a topic that's been beat into the ground ad nauseam. The Fat Man adds nothing other than "attempting" to pump up the salacious and graphically violent elements of the crime by simply repeating (and vacuously so) all the well worn stereotypes of Manson's personality defects, and frankly doesn't even do that very will. This appears to be little more than a rather sad attempt to sell a book. With regard to Manson. I would strongly disagree on a few points. Manson's involvement in these crimes makes him at least as culpable if not more so than his evil minions (and they are all of that, and each deserves to die in prison). However, with regard to the Tate and LaBianca murders, Manson simply got others to do what he didn't want to dirty his own hands doing. Without his demented leadership, its highly doubtful any of the others would have ever engaged in these despicable activities. For the most part, they would have likely become nothing more than petty criminals and societal driftwood. Plus, I think there is more than ample compelling and credible evidence that Manson himself participated in various lower profile murders where he himself was the (or among the) perpetrator/s. Another point is Manson's supposedly abysmal childhood. Admittedly his mother was a total loser and a decidedly unsuitable role model, but this aspect of his childhood often times becomes the entire focus of his early life to the exclusion of everything else. In reality, Manson spent a substantial number of his early years living with loving and caring relatives (his mother's), who by all accounts attempted to provide him with a good home, perhaps even better than most. He apparently rejected all of their efforts intractably hell bent to go down the road of delinquency and rebellion. Because of this he found himself in various homes and reform schools where he continued a pattern of adamantly resisting all efforts to lead a lawful and productive life. Of course in time, this self chosen path in life resulted in stays at progressively more violent institutions where some bad things did indeed happened to him. But whose fault is that? Everyone ultimately decides for himself what life he is going to lead, and must accept the consequences of that decision, rather than perpetually foisting fault for every undesirable outcome on a mother, society, or whoever else happens to be the convenient whipping boy Du Jour. Manson ultimately got the life he deserved, unfortunately far too many totally innocent people had to pay a grave price along the winding and twisted path of his sorry existence.
MANSON CHOSE THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE MET TERRY MELCHER, DORIS DAY'S SON AND A RECORD COMPANY EXEC. HE PROMISED MANSON A RECORDING CONTRACT BUT WAS NOT SERIOUS AND MANSON WENT INTO A RAGE AND SENT HIS THUGS THERE TO KILL EVERYONE IN THE HOUSE. HE HAD TRIED TO FIND MELCHER BUT MELCHER HAD GONE UP TO THIS MOTHER'S HOUSE IN CARMEL.
Schuyler Johnson: I though he was in Malibu. He’d left the Cielo house right after New Years 1969 - 7 months before the murders. Both Melcher and Manson died on November 19th - 13 years apart.
U know the most pathetic yet funniest thing about all this ordeal and I'm sure Manson still laughs his ass off about it is that he got what he wanted done. He didn't care that he was gonna be locked up for life. Yes it's a horrible thing that his Mom dumped him at her sisters house I guess back in the mid 30's and i guess he never knew his Dad either. But that's no excuse to pull all the crap he did throughout his life. I don't even know why he 'ordered' those people to be slaughtered. Manson once said to Dianne Sawyer I'm a rebel woman. Hey Newsflash, were all rebels buthead. Almost all his pics from about his midteen yrs he always had a crazy smile or smerk on his face. He wouldn't play it straight in life. He refused to be a productive person in life. He was bent on wreaking havoc to the rest of society. He managed to find vulnerable people to drug them up, brainwash them to be his murdering human robots. To me Manson only proved to be a pathetic loser. I lost my Dad at 13 and my Mom dumped me at age 16 for no good reason. I didn't take it out on society. Race wars, Helter Skelter, all that BS is just another excuse to cause havoc in society. Just like serial killers It's all about them getting there kicks off of bullying/powering women while raping them cuz being a real man is too damned hard for them. They get there kicks off the womans fears, screams. Psychos, maniacs? Psychologically maybe. To me just right out losers. They all deserved to be executed and set on fire and dumped into the ocean.
What you say has nothing to do with Charles Manson. You're just a lonely pathetic troll who thrives on negative attention. You'v been back and forth here for several months arguing with people you don't even know. What's your problem? Get a fucking job, a girlfriend; do something constructive instead of pretending to support this asshole Manson.
Don't feed the fucking troll. He tries to pull everything out of his hat to inflame you. He brags about his "women" . He's just some keyboard kook who needs attention. Let him dry up like the piece of shit he is and may Manson do the same ASAP.
+Melinda - im not sure why Alisa is speaking like she personally knew Sharon, as we know she certainly didnt ! however I cant finish watching interviews with Debra either - her lies too are sickening............
I was living in Huntington Beach and was pregnant with my second child. I was so scared that i had my mom and dad come and take me to their home 300 miles away!!
Well, I guess we can finally agree that CNN is, well creative, with their reporting. But this all again raises in my mind the discussion about nature vs. nurture. And I still wonder about the decisions against granting parole to Krenwinkle and Van Houton. Is it strictly political?
what if Susan wasn't confessed. that would be remain mystery cause there was no direct lead to menson. And what if victim's husband some how failed the lie detector test(in reality this happens) omg... omg. i can't even think anout it.
