@@uhhno841I used to think the dead internet theory is stupid but it's actually becoming real now Every single thread on Reddit is a mixture of AstroTurf accounts for companies, repost bots and governmental psyops
“Is that a bunch of children with weirdly formed bodies that seem physically impossible but also when you squint you see Jesus’s face? Now that there is content”
yeah poeple are still looking for AI doing hands wrong, in reality it can allready make perfect hands, which would just get overlooked( im talking about the good AIs)
@@Nuke-MarsX Now you have to look at the way textures/colors and shapes are made, facial features being unnaturally blank and the work literally being technically perfect execution. After that you have to look for context clues like the artist who made it to confirm or disconfirm your suspicions if its not immediately obvious
Well these AI tools will make less mistakes but trimming and supervision will still require humans but the problem is that companies will exploit this. Hollywood doesn’t care about quality especially if consumers are forced to watch it due to no alternatives. Just how many films and videos games have quality? Not much. Marvel movies aren’t what it used to. Games are sold with micro transactions, incomplete, unpolished and etc. All AIs gonna do is gonna increase the mid tier quality product and companies blaming the usage rather themselves. Workers are gonna get less pay and crunch more.
U've already seen people pretending real videos are AI. Some guy filmed himself and said it had the prompt somewhere along the lines of "Handsome, wealthy and intelligent man walking down a rainy street."
@@metalprofile2499having humble as a prompt wouldn’t make sense here, but I agree that would be a vain thing to do if he wasn’t joking (I bet he was joking though)
Code is easily scalable and testable Robots aren't Robots are also super expensive to build and can't really be made cheaper than a global south child sewing clothes for 1€ a week
Lmao, they dont need that, you and people like you did this to us by believing in rollercoasters of death. It's your fault for eating up 100 years of propaganda.
Yeah I know what I’m looking at is real and actually happened not be edited or change something that nothing and nobody should care about like that one ad of having ai removed some friend who make goofy face and make them smile like everyone else or remove people just so they have themselves there doing a Stalin
@@DeepStone-6 It's funny that we can look back and find some kind of value in the Patriot's plan nowadays, in spite of how explicitly villainous it is. World were living in, amiright!
Y"all remember how good we are at finding the real download button on sketchy websites, (hopefully) future internet users will be able to distinguish fake and real news/other media the same.
@@HiddenExp Generative AIs are trained using discriminator networks. The stuff we get to see is what fools them. Making them better only improves image quality.
The thing that has frustrated me the most with AI the past few years is the people who dismiss concerns, parroting how easy it is to identify generated imagery and mocking people for falling for it. This (maybe deliberately?) misses the point that this technology is only getting better, at a rapid rate, and has already begun facilitating the major issues mentioned in this video.
It already does. The main indicators these days are time vs rendering quality of work and other stuff that you just have to intuitively notice as weird composition caused by a system that lacks intention beyond the text its provided. Pictures are worth a thousand words, and most people use around 10-100 max to make this images
It's kinda scary how increasingly difficult it is to spot AI media. Especially when people are using it to spread such nefarious misinformation. It's like Ian Malcolm once said: “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn’t stop to think about whether or not they should.”
Well we know who pushed for Creation of something like this. In how many years do you think movie industry is going to mass fire employees and replace them with this?
@@huangGQ what positive purpose can Sora be used list them. I don't see many like Chat can be used for while typing to check for mistakes or help inspire ideas. Ai image generator most of time steals from Actual artists and what can ai image provide other than stealing jobs and making soulless content. Ai should be created to help with medial tasks and give people more freedom to be creative.
@@yes_and_so_what just wait until the way-back-machine and other similar sites are gone - or worse yet - outlawed. from that point on potentially everything (internet or not) is to be put in question. can you imagine living in a world where everything thats on a screen or printed or contains images and/or words is most likely a fabrication? Where it is likely that almost all images and videos you see that contain people that do not exist at all? With the intent to spark some kind of emotion you get from seeing people in order to steer you in a certain direction or make you buy something. not too long from now a combined AI toolset will be able to call you with video on your phone pretending to be your father.
Yeah it’s a shame, there’s a girl showing what life is like in her village in Africa and because it’s so beautiful and natural with trees and mountains, people living in grey bland concrete cities who never go anywhere are all calling it fake coz they can’t understand people live differently to them
@@TayWoode I think I know which one you're talking about, and I really hate how people like you make these kind of made up reasoning. For context, I live in the mountains. Always surrounded by nature. I even have my own flower and vegetable garden. So back to the point, that vid I also thought was green screen because of how the edges of her shirt and hair looked like when you use cheap green screen. It's probably the way the light bounced off her, but it definitely looks green screen. And that's what people were saying, that it looks like green screen. Not that the trees and plants aren't real. Even people living in cities have seen and touched trees and plants. Tell me a city without a single grass in it? 🙄
Maybe they've got it the wrong way round. Instead of trying to watermark AI, watermark real footage. You could include information on the date, time and even location. Would make it a lot harder to fake as you'd need precise information.
@@crustader3755 That's the point though - AI removes watermarks. The video is now unwatermarked and can be dismissed as fake. What is considerably harder is putting realistic watermarks in. In fact that's the way we've always done watermarks.
@crustader3755 does that mean AI also traces imagery? Also, I would rather refer to it as neural imagery for 1.) It's neural networks, not true AI, and 2.) Imagery is not as subjective as art is. (All art is imagery, but not all imagery is art, that kind of stuff)
it's incredible how people who can spot AI pics are a terminally online people that insulted people who have a life just because those people aren't expert on detecting AI pics. 🙄
Kojima had no idea how accurate his prediction was. Except it wasn't 1 AI controlling the world but a thousand AI and algorithms fighting over our attention and ad revenue. At least until the bubble bursts and they start consolidating under a couple of brands.
ngl on all of these facebook posts it's likely that all of the users who posted 1-2 word responses are all bots, same responses repeated hundreds of times across many different posts
Facebook is still inhibited by tons of boomers, from what I see it's still very likely that the majority of those seemingly botted comments going "good work!", "you are very talented" are real people. That's just how boomers talk. someone could post a pic of themselves with a 10 meter tall Mona Lisa drawing and their grandpa would reply with "stunning"
Gotta love Dead internet theory. Somehow a shadow government conspiracy theory posted on 4Chan is now one of the most widely believed conspiracy theories on the planet.
Just the capitalist version of it. It became first and foremost a tool for replacing workers with automation, even in creative fields, and erode the middle class to a point where a future where 99,99% of consumers live in poverty isn't difficult to imagine.
As an avid facebook user I guarantee that it's become completely unmanned and basically unfiltered. Between the porn and constant ai posts from pages I don't even follow its absolute gotten out of hand.
I don’t have a Facebook account but it makes me laugh SO hard at the fact that Facebook users just believe every thing they see. 😭😭 It’s not even just boomers. Gen Xs & even some millennials are falling for them. Bakemydaymimo posted a hilarious video of Facebook users just believing clearly AI cake photos.
I will admit there's good stuff on twitter sometimes. It's a terrible site I never want to use but I can't say there's absolutely nothing of value on there. Same with Instagram and every site in the world except Facebook. Facebook is nothing but a toilet. Nobody can convince me there's a single image, video, or text sequence on Facebook that shouldn't go straight into a black hole and never be spoken of again.
@@saturnthemirrorball I honestly feel like 90% of the people on FB are literal NPC's. The sheer ammount of fake sht i see on this platform is astonishing. Almost every video feels like it is written and voiced by AI. Clearly obvious fake news and propaganda is spread everywhere. Bot account farms are also a big issue. Especially those who spread propaganda. One way i noticed is they use them by posting something ridiculous (political in almost all cases), throwing a bunch of bs comments giving impression of positive reaction under the post, then disabling anyone else from commenting so you can't call them out. Everything feels fake now that AI is advanced enough. Despite all of this, it seems nobody gives a bollocks. I still see people fall for the most absurd stuff you can think of. I'm honestly scared of the future.
@@saturnthemirrorball It's mostly older folks who discovered the internet yesterday, though. They've got a deeply ingrained trust in pictures and written text which they probably won't ever unlearn.
This is what they need to teach in schools. How to tell real from fake. How to fact check. Syllabuses need to change as fast as generative AI is changing.
All this AI content makes me want to be on the internet less. Text generation I could handle, realistic image generation I could potentially come to terms with. But realistic videos? I can't even. OpenAI is damning what gives us humanity. Them being "open" about it doesn't change much.
"OpenAI is damning what gives us humanity" Lines like this make it obvious why people are so up in arms over AI stuff. Sure, the loss of jobs and potential devaluation of art is a main part of the worry, but I think a fear of not being special is a major part of it. Idk how to put it, but basically the same reaction people have to evolution (or at least had). They were like "bruh tf we are definitely not just animals"
@@olivercharles2930 I don't like how your analogy implies OpenAI is liberating us from primitive beliefs and we're wrong in being afraid. I don't even feel that was your intention but it's unsettling.
@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd Nope, my take is a lot more neutral. In fact, I wouldn't even say these are "primitive beliefs". Just naive and a bit egoistical. Understandable though.
indeed, even though I believe that mind/brain rot is not about content one consooms, but one's ability to grasp if it's real or fake, worthy of attention or must be ignored, and so on
Really, the beloved internet that is the access to all scientific info is turning to shit, and the solution is getting off it and reading books that cannot be copied freely like PDFs.
@@ashutoshsethi6150 Don't you think he means things like the ammount of time we spend on social media and letting algorythma feed their version of reality to us? Instead of giving up the web's capacity for viewing files and sharing documents?
This is why I say AI shouldn't be tolerated or even allowed to be monetized. Make it to where it requires people to make their stuff public domain if they use AI.
@@juancho650 eventually the money runs out when everyone turns against tech because they rendered the point of the internet as a tool for information absolutely useless.
They only care about profits. They don't care about creativity, morality, ethics, and mentality. For them, if profit goes up, then it's good. If profit goes down, then it's bad. With that logic, they just push out whatever shit they can, even if it harms humans. And of course when they're caught with their abuse, they can either say sorry (because their company reputation will be harmed), or pay to get out of it. Both options are heartless and disgusting
Glad someone finally is talking about the reverse of this trend, where people can blame AI for any evidence against them now. Criminals are going to walk free a lot more in the future, since photo/video evidence is now very questionable. The thing that most concerns me is politics, and how this will help usher in Orwell's 1984, as if it needed any more help.... “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” I always thought that one would be difficult for them, but now I see it's very close. It's going to get very wild in this decade.
I know at least one person who falls for everything that confirms his worldviews and calls everything fake that goes against it. But generative AI isn't the reason it's getting worse.
There's also the chance most of those comments are also bots to push the post and make people believe this is real. I feel Ai technology is nice, but requires several regulations, restrictions, and ethic groups to prevent this exact thing... And no, deleting AI is not, and was never an option. Like may people said, the Pandora's Box has opened and the only thing we can do is adapt and prevent further damage while learning how it can ACTUALLY benefit one without hurting others.
for some reason I keep getting recommended random trump channels on my mobile community section even though I have never clicked on anything related to them, so its possible to get AI stuff through the community tab the same way
Like all technologies, AI is neutral in it's morals and potential uses. We could use it to create potentially awesome things... but also to create horrors that we can't even imagine. It could lead us into Utopia, or a Dystopia that's so horrible not even Sci-Fi writers could've imagined it... But it all ultimately hinges on how HUMANS USE AI. Most of these AI generating things usually come with warnings or stuff saying "Hey, don't use this to replace actual Human work, be responsible using this, etc." ...And yet it seems like everybody is doing the exact OPPOSITE of that. I'm sure having some legal regulations would be a major help, but it's not like laws can stop EVERYONE. Illegal usages of AI are bound to happen no matter what...
I almost wonder if making the creation of ai images with the faces of real people without their consent should be illegal. That would make ai face generation almost fully impossible as most faces do look like someone. Which ai face generation is useless, and generally only used for devious purposes anyways, so idrc.
@@fungustheclown666I think Legally speaking, you'd have to PROVE that the person in an AI generated video/ image is specifically YOU. So practically speaking, it wouldn't really be useless since you'd be hard pressed to prove that since as you said, "It could be literally anyone". So really, all that'd do is make it impossible to make fake videos of Ryan Reynolds or Taylor Swift. Basically anyone with a clearly recognizable face or look.
@@AndyTheBoizwe are making them do drive through, that would be useful if it actually worked, the audio quality is usually so bad tho that it just will not work
Another huge problem with AI is not just the images, but the information it provides on its own. We could be brewing a nuclear bomb's worth of misinformation. Imagine if that amount of misinfo got integrated with our systems we use daily?
“AI has won, the internet is dead, artists are obsolete” Obsol-eat deez nutz do people really think the indomitable human spirit will not overcome this
Pretty simple answer would seem like digitally signing everything, Estonia has an amazing system set up where it is basically possible to do just that right of the bat, with integration to youtube and other platforms this could be a relatively simple solution.
All aAI based companies that allow you to exoprt pictures and videos should be forced to export with an invisible watermarks, even it can be broken, otherwise we are more or less screwed, its' only going to get better. Digital signing might be hard since modifying pixels can change the signature, digital inivible watermarks might be better.
It's weird. As gen z I've grown up to rely on the internet to do stuff. If I don't know something I look it up but with all the ai litter all over the place and the inability to spot fake content we will no longer be able to rely on the internet
Solution? just don't. Like seriusly we need to march for our rights, AI could lead the internet to be no more than automated garbage, more than it is today, i like people, i like real people, i like interacting with real people on the internet, ai and bots will be the doom of interactions and privacy, imagine if you will, you prepared for a job interview, but the person interviewing you, knows everything about your more than yourself, 5 seconds into the interview and they already blacklisted you because they put your name on an ai and boom there it goes.
"knows everything about about you more than yourself" how? They would only have access to the information you willingly put out there, don't put your information on the internet and / or use anonymous accounts. Just because AI software can be good at sorting through data doesn't mean it has the data.
If you just treat everything you see as probably fake, you'll fall for this stuff less often. I highly recommend everyone at least become firmly with the concepts in light transportation research.
Very dramatic. Humanity has come back from far worse stuff than some goofy computer generated images and vids. I doubt a third of europe dying of the bubonic plague will be topped by ai any time soon.
Right now, it's important to note most AI content is quite literally "filler content." The only time people ever see it is when they're scrolling IG while taking a dump. The moment AI content breaks out of that cesspool is the moment we are in deep shit.
6:10 so true! I'm not even scared by AI, but by gen alpha's inability to spot fakes. I have a little brother who just used in his homework the first article Google gave him, which happened to be ai-generated and clearly made no sense...
If they believe clearly fake images are real, i say make fun of them more. This is not new, it happened with Photoshop and doctored actual photographs.
Funny thing is, Photoshop takes a lot of work to make really fake stuff back in the day. Now anyone can just type some prompt and the fake thing is made for you
@@thelast749 not really, compared to physically fixturing the negatives of physical pictures and re-revealing them, using silver age a camara obscura, Photoshop is as easy as it can be. Technology is supposed to become easier. That's how it works. Basic history.
@@BlackoutGootraxian It's not just "one problem", it's many. Imagine AI getting to advanced that your relationships are robots, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Reality will be destroyed. Imagine AI leading to a massive war that sees nuclear attacks. Imagine most "people" you see online are bots. Imagine all music and film is AI generated. This is the future you're advocating for.
lol ok. like people dont' have hallucinations or fabrications of memory, We aren't necessarily reliable either, in fact there are ways to introduce new memories of things that didn't happen to your old memories. You mind isn't safe, ti just feels safe.
I wish at least there would be a watermark or like a fine print on the videos or photos saying that these are AI generated or at least when downloading the video or image would attack a link and no matter where you upload it, it will say that this has come from "saidai" or smth
I saw the "Using dead victims faces and identities to let follow clout flourish" early on and of course, if anyone points out the say, maybe lack of respect for the victim? If this was a program similar to the (OFFICIAL) movement that obtained permission from a mass-violence victim's family, to use their lost one's face, voice, likeness, to simply speak essentially "See me? Well, my family can't, and it's because x event happened". The microwave situation is similar to what I saw earlier on using victims faces from other crimes and ages. Let those faces rest in peace so that their family members can *not* see their lost love one being used for "True Crime" or some very low tier form of internet existence .
Not just doubt we’ll be living in nier automata and cyberpunk, 2077 future and trust me, there will be good stuff like real life 2B Android everything, but there will be dark times.
@@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946 Might i add Deux Ex to the list? Especially with such themes like AI, corporative dude trying to achieve godhood and engineered virus
I think kids and people general these days have to do a Internet licence to be allowed on the internet. Like a driver licence that allows you to be on the road with a car.
Hell no internet anonymity is 100 percent necessary. I can’t imagine how bad shit will get if you can’t even access the internet without giving out personal information
I think we are entering an era where the concepts of truth and privacy are completely gone, and we’re just going to have to accept that and adapt to it.
It has come full circle. Those of us who went to the internet to escape the mainstream and escape people will be forced to now escape the internet, it's become what we yearned to get away from.
I don't think it's exciting at all, just angering and scary. Imagine your kid is posting videos without your knowledge, then absolutely horrifically, AI generated CP is made of them using their face and sold online, then the images are found by the federal government and you are arrested for extreme child abuse. Or you, your fake nvde videos are leaked and your wife or husband divorces you because they're so realistic that they think you've been cheating on them. Or maybe your face is superimposed at a crime scene video, and given to the police as evidence and you are charged with the crime. There's genuinely no practical purpose to AI generated images and video, the only possible benefit is "art" but AI "art" isn't actually art unless people have actually worked on it. The only practical and ethical uses of ai are those in coding, health, and math.
I was eating dinner with my mom and she showing me some posts on Facebook. She sees an AI bird photo and immediately likes it. I'm looking at this picture and there is about 5 clearly AI details across the photo. I tell her it's AI generated and she looks dumbstruck! She immediately stops trying to her eat dinner and spends 10 minutes trying to out what part looks fake. I had to explain the parts that looked fake and she still couldn't see it. 😅
sheesh,we really need to start working on reforming the entire internet if we wanna protect people who dont know better, AI is defintly cool and has a lot of potential,unfortunately people who only want to make quick money uses AI for the worse,but we also shouldnt be blaming the AI itself,its just a tool that is being used irreponsibly and needs to be under certain control,but it will be dificult counting that big companies also are supporting the irresponsible handling of it
Ian Malcolm said it best: “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should” I cannot for the life of me think of a use for AI videos outside of deliberately spreading misinformation, and the better it gets the more problematic it will be for humanity as a whole.
It's crazy that such rampant and blatant data theft by these huge corporations is happening and nothing is being done about it. You can make your arguments about how it'd be hard to tell where data came from, but we all know that they don't care and would never seek permission before training AI from various sources
