Fade Review: Stretch Selvedge - Unbelievable Fade Results from Stretch Raw Selvedge Denim 

That or his keys, that’s where I usually carry mine.

I totally agree!

Especially since the warp has zero stretch in it so it's gonna fade like any other jeans. What I want to know is how Kato does 4 way stretch selvedge...

I think it's an appeal to authenticity-if it's not 100% cotton, it's not considered "real raw denim," and if it's not real raw denim, it's not going to fade well. Obviously, none of that is true. However, some people are so passionate about something that they treat anything contrary as wrong.

Oh yes, this fabric is a dream to wear, extremely comfortable.

Most stretch jeans are designed to stretch only on the weft side, which means they stretch horizontally, moving left and right. If you add stretch to the warp, the fabric also stretches vertically, moving up and down. Some people call it 2-way, while others refer to it as 4-way stretch, but essentially, they mean the same thing.

@NakedandFamousDenim right. I was just curious about what loom would handle selvedge stretch yarns for the warp and weft. Since is seems hard enough to just make 2% stretch selvedge jeans and that's just the warp. Seems like a lot that is over 2% isn't selvedge. I do have the ash black stretch denim that isn't selvedge, but I still like it. Im debating whether or not to hem them, or go all stacks. I do like Luke's ⅜" hem but, for $25, I don't think its worth it for jeans i paid $70 for. And of course, the kikko, but that's a jacquard loom. The deep indigo stretch selvedge in stacked guy, yeah. The the waist is 2" bigger, but I didn't want them looking like leggings... plus, they were pretty cheap for new without tag.

I didn't think of it that way, but I'll take it :)