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WCW/WWE Cruiserweight Division (90s/2000s): Where Are They Now?

There’s a correction needed here……. Jake “The Snake” Roberts isn’t from Texas, he’s from Georgia.

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And Ole

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Fuck em.

I heard one problem was that Bischoff promised him a match with Hogan, but Hollywood Hogan nixed it.

There was not much use in the worst drawing WWF Champion of the 90's, who wrecked Canadian Cities and american venues (best example: drawing 2,000 at the Meadowlands, the worst attendance any WWF Champion ever drew there) for the WWF in 1994 (most specifically, the Calgary Saddledome, Bret drew so badly there as Champion, the WWF just removed the city from their touring schedule for 2 years), who still holds the distinction of main eventing the worst drawing WWF PPV of all time. He just wasn't a draw, not even with the momentum of the Montreal Screwjob (it seemingly all went to Vince, who ran with it and never looked back) It's best examplified by his Nitro debut. It drew a 4.1. The previous week got a 4.3

@@dhenderson1810 "that doesn't work for me, brother"

Yes winning all the three titles in such a small amount of time doesn't mean failure

​@@ShadowAngel606nope.

Don’t be saying rip when nobody took him seriously and never got his autograph

FACTS He’s probably in heaven right now selling 25 dollar 8X10 pictures.

Ya know, when I think of wrestling legends, the only Virgil that comes to mind is Virgil Runnels aka Dusty Rhodes. Michael Jones, aka Virgil aka Vincent among others, only comes to mind when I'm thinking of comedy gimmick characters who sometimes play a utility role. I feel like applying the term Legend to someone like that, for better or worse, is watering down the term that should be reserved for people who actually made an impact on the business.

@@dwaynejpeterkin, STFU! Virgil was very cool with me. I got a picture taken with him and an 8x10 photo signed by him as well.

@@crewdawg2008 aw man, shoot. I'll do better next time when I decide to remember someone I have a fond memory of. I'm sowwyyy

WCW definitely mishandled Bret when he joined, but Stone Cold was already a runaway train at that point. Nothing was going to stop him from taking over the industry.

@@jcwareham81 WCW at this point was still winning the rating war and was at their peak at Starcade 97 if they just didn’t both the finish and used Brett well who knows what could of happened Stone Cold probably still would of made WWF take the lead and work out the same but it would of been a close call if they used Brett correct and didn’t both the Sting vs Hogan match

Good grief dude, you spelled both his names incorrectly. Bret “The Hitman” Hart. Not Brett Heart👎

@@BonesJJ haha sorry only just realised I just edited it

could have. could of doesn't exist.

Bulldog in 1993: Still relatively young, agile, could work and would've been World Champion had it not been for the Nightclub altercation Bulldog in 1999: A way past his prime drug addict who couldn't even move anymore. In both instances, his spot on the card was a good fit for what he brought to the table.

That's right about that Hogan/Warrior match

Actually, while Warrior was brought in to have a Hogan rematch, they DID try and get something out of him money-wise. His One Warrior Nation (OWN) was meant to take on the NWO. They had an entire program planned with Warrior, filled with tie-in merchandise. Unfortunately it was another WWE 1996 debacle and they quickly learned that he wouldn't help their brand in ratings or ticket revenue. Still, the pairing of WCW and Warrior seemed appealing from the outset and looked like a dream match on paper.

Totally agree with you brother!!

Bret is probably the only wrestler whos won multiple world titles, us titles, tag titles and be considered a failure in the company

@ericdemby4644 Also, the other wrestlers made sure Bret wasn't going to succeed, and when Goldberg injured him, he wrestled few more weeks without knowing how hurt he was

FACTS dude.

Bret never drew a dime anywhere. Look over the attendances he drew, the cities he destroyed, the negative records from the WWF he still holds to this very day (So many "lowest attendance drawn as WWF Champion" records) He had no momentum. He never did. The fact that his Nitro debut completely bombed and the show overall drew a worse rating (by 0.2) than the previous week says everything you need to know.

FACTS bret was the hottest wrestler after the montreal screw job and wcw did nothing with him and made him another wrestler on the roster.

@@cliffordjackson3 Falcons !!

Bret screwed bret. He was an idiot thinking he could leave the company as the champion

@@Whocaresabouthandlesonyoutube Well yes, but he didn’t screw himself in WCW.

@@LRM5195 he wasn't interested in wcw and it showed watching back then was painfull

It lasted only a couple matches in late 1995 before he got fired for being too reckless. Altough Sabu claims he lost out on a 400,000 dollar contract because his mother had a heart attack and he flew to the hospital, signing the contract "too late". Of course that's nonsense considering only Flair, Nash, Luger and Hogan made more than 400,000 in 1996 (Yes, not even Sting, not DDP, not Piper, not Scott Hall, not even the Giant or Arn Anderson)

Sandman and warrior were not great performers by any stretch

They had personally to make up for their lack of ring skills

Yeah, it’s kind of unfair not to even mention Big Ray’s first WCW run, when he was Big Bubba Rogers, the enforcer for the Midnight Express.

@@zlinedavid he took that chair shot; I said run Dusty 🤣🤣🤣🤣

What's a Guardian Angle?

​@tanyairwin3695 it's a guardian who can protect you from every angle! 💁‍♂️

@@tanyairwin3695 A person that guards the Percocet.

My favourite WCW Bret Hart match was against Chris Benoit at the Kemper Arena, on the one year anniversary Owen died. The emotion between the two men, and in the audience, was palpable.

Bret's accomplishes in the WWF and WCW: - Lowest drawing WWF Champion in the 90's (best shown with the House Show averages: (3,703, even Nash drew bigger with 4,464) - Demolished Calgary with 2 horrendous shows (4,300 and 6,000 in the 20k Saddledome) leading the WWF dropping the city from their tour calendar for 2 years - Lowest attendance any WWF Champion ever drew at the Maple Leaf Garden (3,500), Meadowlands (2,000) and MSG (4,300) - Main eventing the lowest drawing WWF PPV of all time (IYH 5, barely 80,000 buys, again, even Nash did better with 100k buys at IYH4) - The 1994 Hart Attack Tour was the first WWF Tour in Germany that wasn't a complete sell out. - World Champion for the second lowest drawing Wrestlemania (12) of all time - His debut on Nitro bombed so badly, the rating dropped by 0.2 compared to the previous week WCW would've been foolish to push him even more than they already did.

@@ShadowAngel606 it’s weird to see that he drew bad in Canada. I would have thought he would have always drew well there. I can understand other tours as champion not being as great for him. He had big shoes to fill with Hulk Hogan. And yes compared to Hogan Bret was just not at that level. Very hard act to follow. Anyway his WCW run isn’t really that much works than his WWF run honestly. Like I said he was always getting pushed and always kept a belt around his waist. I don’t think he was capable of any more. Clearly WCW knew he wasn’t a guy you can build your whole brand around. So why bother?

I recall hearing WCW being described as the result of “the inmates taking over the asylum.” Hogan, Nash, Bishoff and a few others accumulated so much backstage mojo that they booked everything to their own personal gain. Evidently, they cut a lot of promising “upper mid-card” wrestlers like Jericho and Benoit off at the knees (“No heavyweight title shot for you!”) or checked the possible rise of other big name stars from other promotions where they could….unless you were Sting or Ric Flair, two guys with long and storied careers in WCW or even NWA. I don’t know how much weight this story should have though. IMO, WCW for whatever reason signed some guys they legit DIDN’T know what to do with. Sabu, Sandman are cases in point. The “suits” knew damn well they’d never allow these guys to 100% “flash back” to the brutality of their ECW days but I hope they still paid well. Anybody else ever heard the “Hogan-Nash” angle?

​@@tonyjones1560In some cases, it is called "warehousing". You sign a talent and store them, more to hurt your competitor than benefiting yourself. Some of these signing were simply to stick it to WWE or ECW rather than any grand plan.

@@dhenderson1810 Thanks, that makes sense! It never occurred to me that “warehousing” could have been the case. Never even heard the term, honestly. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to me though.

Virgil gone to the big convention in the sky. Hopefully the line at lonely Virgil's table goes on for miles

Which started with painkillers he started taking after the trapdoor incident.

Because Vince Russo said all talented needed to have character and couldn’t just be someone that gets over with in ring work. He is also the guy to blame for the 3 minute matches and short attention span. He claims that ppl don’t want a match that needs to be two segments

I can’t help but think that Mike Awesome was *buried* in WCW. He went from doing running Awesome Bombing opponents into the back of ambulances in Japan, to ECW champion, to…That 70s Guy. The Fat Chick Thrilla. I’m legit not sure that he could have outrun this mess even had he returned to Japan or gone anywhere else?

At least WCW paid him, unlike ECW, where the talent were living on empty promises by Paul Heyman. I hope before Heyman goes into the HoF, he has paid out all the back pay he owed everyone in ECW.

He was one of the top NWO guys at first, and the Rednecks thing got organically over. He did get lost in the shuffle a time or two though.

I do remember them playing "Hoodie Hoo" at one show. Do miss Master P and his marble swimming pool. His ramen isn't bad though.

As I recall, the storyline with Master P just fizzled out?

@@tonyjones1560 It was barely anything. He did one live performance and nothing else. His No Limit Soldiers, I don't remember any of them except for a big black guy named 4 x 4. They weren't anything, just like Brian Adams as The Kiss Demon

@@MoonSpiritChannel Thanks. I really couldn’t remember much detail but I thought a “country vs rap” angle had some potential had it been done correctly…

​@@MoonSpiritChannelI think Rey Mysterio Jr was part of the No Limit Soldiers at one stage.

Benoit jumped to WWE soon after.

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You’re most likely right and with his bad vices they probably didn’t have any faith in giving him a title And being that Bret was there I’m sure he told them about the match at Summerslam and how he had to help bulldog with his spots since Davey was hammered

Because Roddy was shrewed business wise and didn't do jobs for anybody. Looking back at the stuff before my time Roddy was awesome as a heel in the 80's, however I never understood his appeal.in the mix, late 90's

Think it was his wife.

Her name was chasity, a wrestler who in wcw for a time played ravens Kayfabe sister before turning on him later on to align herself with Sandman