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I love your analogies, "its like bacon in black & white", or "Its kind of like bacon that's really far away". It's shocking how well this gets the idea across lol
That last one made me laugh and think of that one guy who tried explain laCroix water "it's like drinking lightly carbonated water when someone drives buy on a bike and screams the name of a fruit really loud." I kept using that one to describe bland stuff lol
You should have used as the title "Plant Based Bacon Rashers not as apertising as poo" LOL. I do get it from an evironment POV, Living with a veggie i eat veggie/vegan regularly.
Roughly 3 year vegan here: Always appreciate the honesty on these, it gets harder and harder to grasp the accuracy of these products the longer you go without the real thing and the craving for meat-esque products is something I no longer experience to be honest. Never been compelled to try this one, always just looks like it's made of plastic for a movie set or something.
Defo. I was a vegetarian for 4ish years (not sure exactly because I don't keep count, but I think it was about 2016) and went vegan about a year ago (should have been sooner). When I try these vegan alternatives, I could swear blindly they taste just like the real thing, but when I ask my meat eating family to try them, they say they can tell. Not sure how much that is subconscious and how much is fact though.
Its almost impossible to get close to a real meat texture. But there are a few mushroom and fungus types that do a very convincing impression of chicken and provide the right texture. Adding a smoked flavour would help with the illusion of bacon as well. Iv always wanted to try liquid smoke which is a smoke flavour additive more common in the us than it is here in the uk. But there are tutorials on youtube that show people how to make their own liquid smoke. It literally is what it says on the bottle as well as its made by spraying the wood coals (different woods = different flavours) with water and then allowing the heat to evaportate and condense that water which traps the smoke wood flavour...... Or just use smoked paprika lol. Thats a staple spice in my cupboard
Why do vegans/vegetarians want meat type products? That's like me wanting a steak made out of carrots.🤣 no but seriously why would you want anything resembling a meat product?
@@edmundblackaddercoc8522 I'm not vegan, but I heard that just because someone is vegan or vegetarian, it doesn't mean that they didn't like the flavor of meat.
*Afterthoughts & Addenda* That last rasher* from this pack, I cooked the next day, after rubbing it with a little smoked paprika and extra salt. This was an improvement. *('rasher' is just the word for a slice of bacon.) *The bread contains yeast* - this does not make it non-vegan. Yeast is still not an animal.
I wonder how much of muted flavours are a result of it not being acceptable and/or manufacturers not being allowed to add as much salts and saturated fats as you you find in a rasher of regular bacon?
@swanningabout The LOL, as I interpret it, is in reference to the comment, not the response to AS's poo joke (i.e. making the comment is also laughable, not just Mike's comment.) Thanks for letting us all know you are slow AND lack a generous spirit.
You should try the Richmond vegan bacon next - also the obvious answer to 'Why?' is, a lot of vegans aren't against the taste of meat, just the process in which it got there. Many vegans spent many years of their life's eating meat so having products like this help them to transition
Yep, and also a lot of traditional British food is based around meat so it's good to be able to just swap the meat for an alternative. It's not about reinventing the wheel and rejecting society....it's just about not eating meat!
I was also going to recommend Richmond vegan bacon. It actually crisps up quite nicely when you fry it. Once in a roll with brown sauce it’s quite nice. I do eat meat, just nice to cut down sometimes.
As someone who also doesn't eat meat I agree. I quite liked eating *some* meats. I just didn't like the process it took to get on my plate for several reasons. Even if fake meat is clearly not meat, I don't mind because it serves the same purpose for me, to eat something different. So not only do fake meat products provide an outlet for vegans/vegetarians to eat something quite similar, it also provides a bridge for those who just want to try it, who normally eat meat
@@bearmugs1408 Also there are people who are not able to eat meat. I have known a couple of people who had a genetic disorders that made them unable to digest animal fats. There's also alpha-gal syndrome from tick bites that causes allergy to most mammal meat.
Vegan here. Meat taste fucking good, no denying that. So if I can get something that taste like meat, atleast enough, without the animal element, yeah I'll eat it.
As a fellow non-vegan I really enjoy your reviews of vegan substitutes. While I prefer meat and don’t plan to stop eating it anytime soon, if some substitutes are decent enough I’d be more than happy to replace them from time to time, that can’t hurt.
I'm not vegan nor even vegetarian, but I love some vegetarian products-- black bean burgers are my favorite. In general, I prefer meat-sub products that don't try to taste like meat... but then, I don't have a craving to satisfy, so I guess that's a wash. Also I've started looking into vegan meat/etc because I've got high cholesterol, and have found that some-- though by no means all-- meat subs are lower in fat & cholesterol. Not cheap enough to be a staple in my healthier diet, but a good bit of variety.
Benny Bennerson I thought the same way as you for decades. That there was some perfect correlation between how ethically concerning I thought a food was, and how bad it was for you. Like it had all been planned that way; like nature was "testing" us somehow. But the real world isn't like that in other ways, and I no longer think it is in this way either.
lol go ask an Orthodox Christian. We swing back and forth between vegetarian, vegan, pescetarian, and occasionally omnivore depending on time of year and day of the week. :)
I like foraging stuff, and there's this one mushroom that has a flavor reminiscent of bacon. I've had it a few times, and it's very tasty, even though it smells kinda sketchy when you pick them lol... That mushroom is the milk-cap! Maybe you can try and make your own fake bacon from it!? It's not a common mushroom here where I live, but Wikipedia claims they're also found in the UK.
Would that be the safron milk cap? Iv always found them to have a slightly gritty texture. Also its the only mushroom iv foraged where i gave myself the only panic attack iv ever had the misfortune to experience by thinking i poisioned myself. Never again will i google for toxic lookalikes after iv consumed something lol. I have it on good authoritity that they pickle very well though and are more commonly eaten that way in eastern european countries
You probberly could, the problem tho is that to get anywhere near a meat texture you would need a extruder (same way the pee protiens are pushed into form) Whether or not extruded-made products are healthy is still in debate, as its not longer a raw food product but prosseded food product.
3 year vegan followed by 3 year vegetarian here: These "meat-replacement" products aren't really tailored towards longterm vegetarians or vegans but rather: The rest of the population. People that just started eating no or less meat often have a hard time adapting to full-vegan/vegetarian dishes, so they would buy these meat-replacement products and cook their usual "meat" dishes, simply replacing the meat with these "meatless" products.
@@JamieTwells mainly for an increase in convinience towards myself and my family. Aside from the additional time you need to invest in buying and preparing your personal food, if you are in a hurry or just living spontainious you can't exactly walk into any random bakery or restaurant and expect them to always offer something vegan. (At least in germany)
@@JamieTwells I was young and still living with my parents. Changing my diet to veganism gave me full control over my mealtimes and their content. The restrictions aren't that bad if you can do your own shopping and regulary cook for yourself. I imagine the mindset of always preparing your own food for the day before you leave for school/job isn't that different from someone with serious food allergies, just a matter of getting used to it and accepting it as normality.
"These "meat-replacement" products aren't really tailored towards longterm vegetarians or vegans but rather: The rest of the population." I like that. Back when I was a vegetarian, I don't remember feeling compelled to eat fake-meat-that-wasn't meat. I just didn't eat meat, and never imagined that someone might produce a fake meat substitute for me. On rare occasions, I might feel like having a burger, or some sausage, so I did. It was not an, "either - or ELSE" proposition for me. It still isn't. Sometimes I don't eat meat, sometimes I do. The notion that you must be ONLY one or the other escapes me.
Did you also slap ya knee? Did your eyes also bulge out your eyes? Did you hover off the floor for a few seconds in disbelief? Why do people need to lie about spitting their drink everywhere? Are you constantly guzzling down liquids?
I actually really appreciate your vegan videos! I'm a vegan for almost 3 years myself and I really appreciate the honestly and the thought process. It's awesome that you include these types of videos!
these taste almost exactly like frazzles crisps with the softness of corned beef (unless you get them fully crispy), a good substitute for sure but not quite as close as, for e.g., vg chicken
I like how honest they are about not being quite there, as someone trying to cut down on eating meat I hate it when companies claim that it's exactly like the real thing when it's just not when you actually eat it.
I like these but I haven't eaten meat in years so I'm not really making a direct comparison. They taste nice with cheese in a toasted sandwich. The one complaint I have is that the 'rind' seems to just be decoration and doesn't taste any different from the rest of the 'meat'.
I’m a lifelong vegetarian of 44 years. I’ve tried this bacon before & it’s rare for me to take a strong dislike to a veggie product. This one ended up in the bin quicker than you could say “rubbish.”
Phahahaha this made me laugh too much. I'm a 4 years vegan, thought they were a bit rank. Tasted like salty carpet to me, but it still doesn't make me miss bacon! 🙃
@@meagnelhug9976 - You’ve got it spot on by calling it rank. It should be rebranded as naked with extra rank lol. I’ve no idea how they managed to make a product taste so bad.
My fiance is vegetarian, and I'm a meat eater, but we get Morning Star "bacon" all the time (We call it Fakin' Bacon haha) and while it's not a complete replacement for me, I honestly love them. I make BLTs for us both all the time. I like the texture when they're golden brown, it's a nice little crisp.
That's the best fake bacon on the market. Their meatless crumbles are really good too-just add whatever spices or sauces as ya would meat and enjoy. Stay safe and be well. 👍✌
Morningstar fake bacon is like if you took bacon and dialed it *up.* I also enjoy the stuff; would be interesting seeing it in one of these Philosophical Omnivore Meat Substitute Reviews.
I am in Germany, and semi meat eater, but there is a vegan fish over here that is actually pretty good when it's friend, also chicken nuggets (vegan). I think it's mostly made from mycelium and soy. The fish actually fries easier than the real thing, and I found that by slipping some brown sugar and spices into the frying oil it actually adds a sweet crispy flavor. If you are interested, I'll let you know the companies, but I'm not sure if they would be found in your area.
Lovely review! Especially including day Two and making a straight up vegan dish for comparison. I‘m not vegan or vegetarian, but I‘m happy to find meatless alternatives from time to time. Love your content and keep up the great work! Btw - what kind of a breed is Eva? She‘s adorable and looks kind of like my former pup Grizzi.
I think its fun to eat something that is plant based, I feel lighter after eating plant based. I do not think I will stop eating animal products but cutting down is better than doing nothing on an environmental standpoint.
@@rucker69 A report published in The Lancet in 2019 concluded that a dietary shift toward plant foods and away from animal products is vital for promoting the health of our planet. ... A global shift to a plant-based diet could reduce mortality and greenhouse gases caused by food production by 10% and 70%, respectively, by 2050.
Genuinely loving these videos for all their qualities. Not just the item being reviewed, but also your attitude towards both the product and the review process and your choice of tablecloth.
It was indeed interesting, thanks Mike :) I've not tried any meat alternatives, but it's always cool to get honest reviews of such things, like the "impossible burger" that was all the rage when it was launched.
I've recently been dabbling with vegan/ vegetarian products as I've been having stomach issues and was curious to see if it made a difference (I don't think I'll ever go fully vegan/ veggie though), and some of them really aren't bad. There's a quorn vegan "ham" which is actually super impressive in a sandwich. Like they said, they're getting there.
Hi, your friendly neighborhood vegan here to answer any genuine questions commenters have. I've been doing it for 12 years so I'm quite well versed. If you just want to leave abusive comments please don't waste your time, I won't rise to them.
@AmericaDeservesBetter All I can find is that, according to WHO, genuine bacon is carcinogenic (cancer-causing) and that people are switching to vegan/vegetarian bacon as a replacement. I can find nothing about bacon replacements having cancer-causing chemicals. If you have a source, please do provide it.
I had a quick glance through the comments and couldn't find an answer to the 'Why do vegans want to eat meat replacements?' It's not a complicated answer; we never stopped liking the taste of these products but we just fell out of love with the idea of factory farming and the environmental destruction that it causes. However that being said; that's my view - I'm obviously not in a position to speak for all other vegans. I can't imagine vegans for health reasons would be big on this one. Thanks for another great video, Mike.
The question won't go away. No matter how many times this answer is given (which answer frankly, should be kind of obvious to anyone with the capability to type the question). It's like the waves on the shore - the next one will be here in a moment. It will not stop. Hypothesis: People ask the question not because they want the answer, but because they think it represents a clever 'gotcha'.
Well, a lot of people want to reduce meat consumption, not eliminate it. This is one way to do it. As a vegetarian not following some philosophy I will always try new products out of curiosity, like this one. The only meat I miss is fried chicken wings. If they can replicate that Im all in.
As a plant based eater of about six years, all I really want is a good sandwich where stuff isn't falling out of it. Nothing does that like meat. Or fake meat. If I'd never eaten meat, I wouldn't crave this experience. Beans in burritos and tacos? Check. But a good sandwich is a thing of beauty.
@@AtomicShrimp I disagree. I have an "engineering mind", very much like your own (given we're a similar age) and I simply like to know why something exists, without necessarily passing judgement on it. If anything, it's healthy to put oneself "in another person's shoes" just to understand the world a little better from their perspective. I asked that same question here in another discussion and a (presumably) vegan person gave me a really good answer - that ultimately someone who is turning vegan can lose the taste of meat gradually over a longer of period of time. To me, that's an entirely sensible reason for why this product exists and it's given me one good reason for it.
I once tried a bacon substitute based on seaweed from a company called 'Seamore food' and their way of going about emulating the taste of bacon was to basically salt something already dry. Maybe not the most nutritious, but it had some of that same pan burn taste, even if it was a completely different texture. I mostly stopped it eating it because after the novelty wore off, having 'bacon' on toast every morning got a bit samey. It did go near enough for my taste for the short while I used it and unlike bacon it didn't feel so heavy in stomach for the next hour. Fun thing about that one is that the weed starts as purple, but frying it in oil made it turn green.
I don't know why I like your videos - you review such simple things, but it's very relatable I guess. Like, a lot of this is pretty much what goes through my head in the supermarket when I'm shopping, deciding what to get for dinner and living life on a budget, trying new things and just hoping they're good.
For me, the wheat gluten and maltodextrin would irritate my digestive system. I would like to try plant based foods, but the gums and starches are trouble for me. I really enjoy your assessments of these various foods, plant based or not. I especially like your "weird stuff in a can" series.
Nice to see something that’s not soya or nuts. I would like to reduce my meat consumption but I’m very limited what I can eat and meat is one of those things. Glad they are doing these products. Hope they keep trying.
I LOVE how you saved a bit & gave it to your 'dog' for a second opinion. I'm not vegetarian anymore (but was for decade+, rarely eat meat now; but got myself so I didn't feel sick if food was cooked with animal fats so separate saucepans etc weren't required), but I recall trying to feed my Dad vegetarian sausages I love (nut meat), and my Dad gave one to the dog; the dog didn't eat it... My Dad said he'd use the dog in future for my testing my *meat-like* products.
I haven't eaten meat for nearly 40 years so I don't remember what bacon tastes like, but I do like this fake bacon. The reason why many vegans eat meat substitutes is because they like meat but don't like eating animals, and it's also nice to have something to chew.
always impressed by your videos, I really wish more people would be as open minded as you are where vegan/veggy food is concerned. I know so many people in real life (and sadly the comments section here bares this out) that are not and will never try vegan products on principle. honest videos like this really help open the debate and show what is possible.
Going vegan, frozen and fresh peas are my favorite food. If I’m going to have that protein anyway I might as well just make peas. Small ball shapes makes them cool pretty well, although the fake bacon seems like a novel idea.
Your description of the bacon being like a black and white photo of bacon reminds me of my husband's description of a book versus movie based on a book. He described the book as a great hot dog, while the movie is like the leftover hot dog water from boiling them. Just cold hit dog water...
4:48 - I'll be that next guy and recommend another Polish mayonnaise; Kielecki - the flavour is much stronger in that one, I'd say it's a more zesty mayonnaise that goes really well with tomatoes (try just having a plain bap with that mayo and a slice of tomato... works too well, even without seasoning on the tomato). 7:30 - Made me laugh so hard, gotta love Eva and your approach as usual
I don’t believe vegan and vegetarian is truly interchangeable as the rules are different, vegetarians can only not eat meat and stuff, but can have animal products iirc like cheese or gelatin, meanwhile vegans cannot
@@quantumfluffyflapjack I'm personally still not sure about the egg thing... Vegans are against the whole animal thing, sure... but if one has a chicken on a field that lives how it likes and gets fed every day, a vegan would still not eat the eggs...why? chickens lay eggs regardless of anything, they tend to even peck at them and eat them themselves.
@@Bookofwords You would still have the gender imbalance where you need few males and many females but hatched eggs are 50/50. But largely I agree that there are ethical ways of producing most of what vegans won't use, it's just not really practical for most people under our current economic system. And sometimes it's just a case of people who have a lot of empathy but are a little bit divorced from the reality of food, like the whole honey debate where some say you can't have anything that uses animal labour, but ignore how the bees made the honey- often from pollinating crops, which logically means they couldn't eat those either. But even in an entirely ethical system where everyone knew how it all worked you would still have some people who just found the idea of it disgusting. Like how many people find the idea of eating insects gross on a base level. That's why I don't eat meat, the idea of the dead flesh (and the smell of it cooking) is too unpleasant to me.
great balanced review. I'm not a veggy, but appreciate their view. I'd wager that if they added the salts etc to make it like bacon, it would look so unhealthy on paper that no one would buy it. I think I might give it a try, if it saves a piggy or 2
Thanks for this one Mike. Brilliantly informative and helpful for those of us who might like to try fake bacon. Also the hilariously funny Eva’s little walk on part. Her eyes just make you melt, and she’s so gentle. But another reason that people may like to know - is that some of us simply can’t digest meat from animals and we get by with all the usual tofu, lentils, Tempeh, nuts and seeds, etc. but this kind of thing is nice for a change and if you don’t eat the real thing, then your taste buds change and accept the slightly dulled down black and white version of flavours! Haha - it’s all good. Anyway, I’m grateful that you go to so much trouble with your fakin’ tastin’ videos. Always fun - keep up the good work.
There's another fake bacon test coming this week - I didn't intend to do another so soon, but I saw something in the supermarket that looked really quite bacon-like in the visuals
I've never tried plant-based bacon, but I have tried plant-based burgers. I sometimes prefer Impossible Burgers and Beyond Burgers (over actual ground beef burgers) since they are less greasy. They taste fine to me, don't taste exactly like meat, but still taste good enough that I like eating them. I do eat meat, just sometimes, I like trying different stuff and less greasy stuff.
It might just be that the texture is easier to imitate, but plant based ground beef tastes just as good as the real thing to me. I'll have to try the bacon.
Your videos are some of the highlights to my weekends, Mr Shrimp! Always interested in learning about meat alternatives, though I am an omnivore. As a side note, I’ve seen mention of bacon sandwiches and have been curious as to what they are. So thanks for showing us how they are made. 😀
Definitely the best vegan bacon I have tried. Vegan "meat" has improved drastically over the past few years. I often buy plant based alternatives to the processed meats like bacon and sausages.
As always, love every one of your eclectic videos! 😍 Please, can you (Or have you done) an *Impossible Meat* test? (To me, the *Best* replacement meat out there- not kidding! The others don't stand close to it (for ground beef dishes.. ie hamburgers etc)
As a vegan, it depends can be a help to ease transition to vegan. People are vegan for several reasons, environmental impact of meat farming or animal cruelty. So they may like the taste of meat but don’t like hurting animals or environmental impact .. hope that helps 😊
@@BrunodeSouzaLino the majority of crops go into producing food for farm animals, specially soy. Also lots of vegans are against big agriculture because of the impact it has on the environment.
that's intresting and i like how you cook and all the food you do it's different from ma country so enjoy watching and learning something new and hearing somebudy cool speacking about it love your content!🤟
Just a tip.. if using cherry tomatoes in a sandwich, try them next to the bread with full leaf of lettuce on other side. Keeps them from sliding as much. I only grow cherry tomatoes, and all colors are delish in BLT sandwiches. Interesting review I prefer morning star farms sausage and bacon. NOT over the real deal. Thanks, Mike for entertaining information! You'd be a great teacher! You ARE a great teacher. Oxford, Ohio USA
I don't think this is squarely marketed at vegans. I think it's rather aimed at omnivores who want to eat less meat, like me. I mean yeah, real meat almost always tastes better, but the environmental impact and the exploitation in the meat processing industry do leave a bitter taste.
I agree with your thoughts, but balancing harms of meat farming with consuming a massively artificial product is toss up for me. I’d rather eat less meat, but stick to the real deal and purchase from local farms (I’m in Illinois), where possible.
Yeah but bacon is different from other meat alternatives. Maybe I'd rather eat a beef burger than a Beyond burger, but they're still decent - I'd rather eat nothing at all than most brands of veggie bacon. The one, baffling exception is Vivera bacon bits - they smell and taste shockingly authentic compared to the competition, but for some reason only make bits, not rashers.
@@Jamal_Tyrone It's a novel approach for you to try to decrease carbon footprint and animal cruelty? Even if you disagree, you must have lived under a rock the last years to have never heard of that.
@@lauraweiss7875 What makes these products massively artificial? I highly doubt they involve a large amount of synthetized chemicals. Seems like it is mostly processed veg, fungus, and grains. Plenty of other normal foods such as bread and gin are also highly processed. Heck even that brown sauce is a highly processed food. Or what about tofu? Fish sauce? Soya sauce?
Yeah, I don't go daft for the meat substitute stuff. I'm not vegetarian either, but I do try to eat a couple of veg only meals a week, which I definitely enjoy for they're own sake. So many tasty options for veggie cooking, and really cheap too, I enjoy them BECAUSE it's veg, not 'in spite of...' The meat substitute stuff's OK, but at this point in it's evolution that's all it is... 'OK...'... Good effort though. Cheers for the upload mate 🏴👍
I have been using oyster mushroom stripes as a substitute for bacon in sandwiches. They get nice and crispy and go well together with the rest of the ingredients
As a vegan for 5 years, I will say that I ate those sorts of fake meat products a lot more when I was first transitioning, and when I was a vegetarian before going full vegan. It can be a great way for people to dabble in meat-free eating without it being so intimidating. When you’re first getting started it can make it a lot easier while you get used to planning and preparing a large majority of your meals (which is a must if you hope to stay vegan for long). I had eaten so much meat and cheese for the first 20 years of my life that my tastebuds took a long time to adjust, and faux meat products like this helped bridge the gap. Nowadays I probably only have a fake meat product like this about once or twice a week, and it’s usually accompanied by lots of veggies and grains
I think they also provide an easy option for people who simply want to eat less meat than they currently do. I mean, generally when I feel like that, I just cook a vegetarian meal, but some folks want something that looks and cooks in a familiar way
ever other youtuber would have cut the video with the dog taste test. Good enough, honest review with a little doggy bonus. BUT NO You have an insane commitment to quality and thoroughness. You slept on it and gave it another trying. For our benefit. You had me laughing outload at the bacan but far away part. You are making some of best content on this platform.
wow they really nailed the looks of that "bacon", and it seems pretty delicious after cooking too wish we had that around here, I know meat substitutes are never as good but I'm super interested in trying out all the weird experimental plant-based "meat-like" foods
I’ve tried this bacon before, I quite liked the flavour, but I think the plant pioneers brand tasted better. I was happy that they fortified it with b12 though, because an estimated 40 percent of people (not vegans) are déficient in b12 And in terms of why do vegans not eat meat, we still like the taste of these products but we just don’t like the process the animals have to go through for people to eat these things, so these plant meat products are a way for us to ethically enjoy the same products we like.
Vegans love to mention how animals suffer, but selectively ignore the fact that plants are also alive and fear death, according to scientific research. There is no way to ethically enjoy any food, because we need to absorb the life of other things to sustain our own. We can't receive nourishment from things that never had life. Vegans need to stop deluding themselves that they're somehow beyond the laws of nature. You're simply absorbing the life of beings you can't hear scream.
@@ThatShadowBannedGuy I'm sorry, but as a scientist myself, you're just plain worng. It's completely impossible for plants to have emotions such as fear, they don't have a nervous system! However, even if they could suffer (the absolutley can't), it would still be far more ethical to go vegan - it takes significantly more plants to produce meat than to just eat plants directly (the energy loss between trophic layers is enormous). The overwhelming majority of crops grown by humanity are as animal feed, not as food for humans. Take soy, for example. Only 4% of global soy production is for human consumption, with the rest going to feed farm animals.
It's the only thing I missed I hadn't eaten, meat for over twenty years. Now can't really say, why I went off meat, except for ethics, I'm going to try some of these, bacon 🥓 products. Thank you
I have been an avid watcher and admirer of your videos for a few years now, they are always informative, interesting and objective. I also find I can watch them more than once, sometimes coming back to them for a bit of Atomic goodness. So, I just wanted to say thanks! Also, can I suggest you change the title of this to 'Facon' ? Cheers and thanks again.
I've been trying to cut down on my meat consumption for the past few years. I'll probably never go full vegan; would probably never be able to cope without cheese. But if I ever eliminate meat altogether, bacon will be The Last Stand. As it is, I think halloumi presents the best alternative to bacon I know at the moment..
Honestly, not eating animal-based products at all isn't really good for you anyways. Modern people eat far too much meat, but humans are still omnivores and eating *some* animal products (especially eggs, lean meat and dairy) is actually pretty beneficial to your health as they contain substances that you cannot get from plants in sufficient quantities without artificial supplements. So your way of doing it is probably optimal, anyways. Unless your principle is so strong that you cannot bear to have any animals die for your nutrition at all, I wouldn't bother to go fully vegan. It's really not good for your health.
@@gayusschwulius8490 You don't even get those nutrients naturally from meat either. Livestock food is supplemented. So at the end of the day, either the animal is supplemented or you are. Also, if the original commenter is planning on eating meat substitutes, like this bacon, they're already fortified so no need for vitamin pills etc. Meat really isn't good for you - it's linked directly to the global biggest causes of death. There's also a lot of evidence pointing to the fact that we were never supposed to eat it to begin with - our teeth are closer to that of a gorilla (frusectivore - fruits/insects), we have very little built-in weaponry (unlike that of other omnivores - eg foxes, bears), and our digestive tract is too long to consume meat. Meat starts to ferment before leaving our bodies and is believed to be the cause of colon cancer.
@@gayusschwulius8490 Also i would *really* love to see your sources that state dairy is healthy. Dairy is literally poison to anything past the age of weaning. It raises oestrogen levels to an insanely unhealthy amount and the majority of people are not built to digest lactose, often without even realising. Milk is bad enough past weaning when its coming from your own species, but milk from cows? big no no.
As a vegan for 5 years now I'm gonna answer the "why" question, it actually is kinda obvious like you already said - Why not? We have the possibilities to do something which looks and tastes kinda like meat (of course not exactly, but it is close enough to make some people happy), but with less animal harm and in an environmental-friendler way. I think this is reason enough to say "I'm gonna take the fake meat because I personally like it as much as normal one". Other reasons are that some people want to live vegan for ethical reasons, but it's hard for them to abstaim from animal products. For the reasons mentioned above I don't get the point some people try to make with "But you are vegan, so you HAVE to abstain from everything, if you want meat, then eat real meat!!" - If there is something which makes it easier for people to live a life they are happier with, then that is great. Yes, of course it is possible to live vegan without any replacements - in that case, a vegan diet is even cheaper than a normal one. I did that for over a year, but since there are more and more possibilities each year I now like to try some of the replacements from time to time, and I don't want to miss my soy joghurt anymore :D
im pretty sure most people could answer the "why" their own if they only thought about it for a few moments. i havent seen one individual that asked it and was satisfied with an answer either which gives me the impression that they dont really ask about a reason, but state the opinion that its questionable to do. you only need to change the words with the same idea of the question to see how ridiculous it really is; "if you dont have wings, why do you want to fly?" "if you hate fur, why do you copy loincloths with cotton?" "if you shave your face, why did you become a man?"
Veganism is NOT environmentally friendly. Dont kid yourself. The machines in the factory where the ingredients are pressed together…. That place oils the machines they work with…. FOSSIL FUELS The trucks and boats that deliver the product? They run on DIESEL FUEL…. now times that X12 for the gather and shipping process of almost every ingredient that goes into this 1 product alone…. You guys just love pollution if it means you gets to imitate meat… great ethics there. You’ll end up suffocating the pigs you’ve saved with toxins from the exhaust pipes of the very vehicles that deliver this product to a shop near you… Its all so backwards, and way too easy to poke holes in. Now the question has become “why attempt to imitate meat, polluting in the process, When you could just eat vegetables and be miserable with your choice to be a vegan, and if you can’t tough it out on a diet of lettuce, why not just give it up? You dont have to eat meat every day….”
@@nicks4802 given the length and wording of your post, i assume you are one of those haters and im not in the mood to debate, but your reasoning is as stupid as it gets. the transportation you speak of? how do you think does all the soy from south america to feed the animals around the world? and surprise, the cows dont run on their own either... they get shipped around. edit deleted the last paragraph because i misunderstand. my bad.
@@nicks4802 I never said it is environmental-friendly, I said "friendlier" - that is a difference. The ecological footprint of a vegan diet normally is lower than of a normal diet. That is a fact. Inform yourself if you don't believe me. Like it was already written by Thomas Herzog, vegan food isn't the only one that gets transported. What I would like to add to their comment about the soy which gets shipped from south america: I often hear people say that vegans are so bad because they eat soy which is so bad - But in fact, the most vegans consume less soy than people eating meat, because of the immense amount of soy which is needed to produce meat (when animals eat soy, and you then eat the animal you get less kalories out of the soy in the end than if you eat it directly), and also, most vegan products (at least in my country) are from european (mostly ecological) soy, not from other continents. Yes, not all soy, and that also might be different where you live, but I actually once went to three different stores, wrote down all vegan soy products they have and looked it up - the majority was made with european soy. Think about what you write, don't believe everything you read in the internet because the internet tends to only show what's inside your own bubble of believes, go out there and check stuff yourself. And then build up an opinion. 100% environmetal friendly is no diet - that is impossible. Everything needs resources to be produced. And yes, fake meat is not as good as relying on other protein sources like beans and lentils. But I don't blame people for eating meat, so I don't see why I have to defend myself for eating a meat substitute every now and then, which has a lower ecological footprint/lower use of resources than the product it resembles.
