Fallout 76 - What Went Wrong & How To Fix It 

He has other video-essays on different games that are just as insightful. Jon is amazingly sharp for someone with a 0 Perception stat . I think the education in classics yields an analytical mind, that sees details clearly within the bigger picture.

@@Nimno74 Oh yeah, I have watched nearly all of his videos. This one though....insightful, informative, excellent design instincts... as I said....this is a Master Class level design and franchise perceptively driven evaluation. Hireable for sure.

@@TheJodyhicks Granted, it is easier to take a pre-existing thing, and see how it can be altered, than to create something from thin air, but I'd love to hand a lot of game ideas I have over to a think tank full of people like Jon.

Bethesda doesnt need any more armchair developers, they already have Todd Howard.

You're certainly right, but I imagine some of FO76's current state is also due to the "You've taken too much time, finish up something in the next week/month/whatever and ship it!" effect, with the financial guys dropping the hammer and forcing a compromised version to be released.... To some degree, an analysis like Jon's is easier in hindsight, _seeing_ the problems the current design causes and going from there. Perhaps a longer development cycle would have allowed some of this retrospection to happen internally.

There's some things that are exceptions, at least to me. For example, slowly healing so you don't have to use healing items

@@ryanchungus8972 I know I am late but I don't think that is the same. This is because normally a perk that slowly regens health is usually more for a tactical purpose than a not being bothered purpose. It means that I can carry fewer healing supplies or have a worse medicinal skills as the limited supplies can go to combat. So I don't think it us bot being bothered more than being clever with what you have . compared this to the lockpicking perks in skyrim which are all nigh completely useless. However they make it a lot quicker to open locked doors so I belive they are badly designed. One in being clever and the other is being lazy/forced to by the game design.

@@harrisonchauhan3875 yeah, makes sense

@@ryanchungus8972 totally was not expecting you to respond 1 year afterwords. I guess thanks are in order.

@@harrisonchauhan3875 lol np. I definitely think there should be a balance of perks. Lock picking removed, for sure. I'd love useless but fun perks, like a musician perk in skyrim to play a lute in some way((perhaps from the bards college))

Maybe but at least he is safe if there is a fire.

@@AspenBrightsoul or thunderstorm.

You say that as though there were issues with the decals aswell

Yeah exactly. The “game“ would require such an extensive rework that it'd be like making a new game. Even IF bethesda cared about anything other than your sweet money, I'd like it much more if they'd just focus that effort for their next game.

@@littlejohnny41 If bethesda actually cared about money, they'd put in the work to redo the game. Because that would literally bring in more money. They just wanted to cash in on the shitty live subscription and MTX trend.

Lmao

I came just to like this comment

I once played a great sprite swap of Fallout 76 on my CD-i called "Doom". It proved that with some minor tweaks, Fallout 76 is an awesome game.

Fallout 76: Not Broken Edition

Fallout 76: For real this time ... Fallout 76: True Nerd Edition

here's a story from fallout 76: good edition I have a story from jon's FO76 single player, (though there would be no enclave) just outside the ash-heap, you see a free-state, a Responder, a raider, and a BOS paladin all sitting by a fire, the player will most likely be curious about why these factions that usually show such open hostility are just sitting by a fire, so they ask one of them why they're all together, and one of them tells the player character about how all their (same faction) buddies died venturing into the ash-heap, they all got lost but ran into each other,. when they first met each other they were going to kill one another, but realized that it would be stupid. so they started to work together to try to escape the ash-heap, the raider had given some pointers on weaknesses of the ash-creatures (that's what I'm calling them) from some of their raider friends stories about killing ash-creatures. the Responder uses their medical know-how to help them become more resistant to the ash-heap's air, and treats any wounds. the free state uses their survival/scavenging skills to keep the group fed off nothing but what they brought, and what they can find on unlucky corpses and finds a way to turn some of the ash into something useful (I don't know yet) and the BOS paladin's general combat skills keep the ash-creatures off their backs. and in the multiplayer, this group would still be alive, because they weren't at the big major battle (which would happen at the end of the game where all the factions fought over access to a nuclear launch site in order to nuke the other's bases, but it malfunctions and then the scorched rise and scorchify everybody in the vicinity, and since so many people were there, nobody left in appalachia could mount an assault on the scorched beast and died to the high number of scorched) and the free state member lead them to a bunker with tons of provisions to last all of them a lifetime, and then they just settled there, they could even act as merchants and sell you stuff. the entire point is to help enforce the whole working together moral like in vault 11, as they manage to work together and play to each other's strengths , allowing them to survive. while everybody else got themselves killed over idiotic rivalries.

extra add-on for fallout good edition, what if there were small raider camps dotted around the world, they could organize smaller, weaker, attacks on smaller, weaker, settlements, and to add some fun for the raider players, they can participate in raids (big or small) and gain some serious points for it, say you raid a town and succsesfully raze it to the ground. that town has a raid factor, which increases rewards for a raid, a raid factor can give experience and weapons, (the idea being you got it from the town or it was provided for you by the raiders) giving more incentive for people to join the raiders, also I think raiders and ex-raiders should have a perk increasing their damage in PVP (it will be less effective for ex-raiders due to being out of practice) the idea would be that as a raider you can win potentially harder fights and level up faster than normal players, and then when you leave the raiders, you won't be killed as often by raiders as they will see your ex-raider status and back off because you would be more of a threat than normal players. the tradeoff being not liked by many of your peers and potentially murdered in revenge for previous death. though I think the bounty should be gone after becoming an ex-raider unless you killed anybody, but remove the base 100 cap bounty.

Fallout 76: simply better edition

You have name Fixit, and anime gurl avatar. Bless you good sir.

fallout's pre war story where greed lead to death is the sole reason 76 didn't find it's potential, Bethesda wanted money and didn't actually care about what they were making or doing

@@BuzzyB34 Ironic, huh? Guess it's true what they say, "Bethesda *never* understood Fallout." Noah Gervais' critique/review remains my number one recommendation to anyone thinking of playing it.

That was absolutely my takeaway from this video!

server issues, other people, time zone issues, just got 76 for $15 on sale and none of these are any issue, They have improved a lot I'd give it another year and try it on sale you might have some fun

In my opinion, the reason you never wanted to play one previously is because something like this doesn't seem to exist. You want a game like this in your gaming life, but can't fill that void. Gosh I wish 76 were like this. Kind of why I never actually picked up on 76. I watch people's videos and read news about it, but been sticking to playing FONV, FO4 and outer worlds as of late

multiplayer is just not what fallout people wanted sounds great on paper but when it comes to gather no one likes it and it not easy to do. All I ever wanted from a fallout is a co-op were a friend if they wanted can join my world and i can do the same to them bit like far cry does it that would of worked not a online only MMO with no same world and all run on servers and no story no humans and tapes you care nothing about to get quests.

@@giggity4670 . Bethesda apparently did take the criticism as constructive feedback and made all of these changes that he wanted. Nuclear Winter was dropped and so no more Battle Royale. Thankfully, the Vault that was used for it, Vault 51, was opened as an explorable Vault and I'm so glad that they did this. Zax as an Ai that decides the Overseer and bases decisions based on equations is easily one of the best Vault ideas in the franchise. It operates as a co op game that can be played solo and you can run into realistic scenarios where most of the time (99%) it is useless to fight enemies like Super Mutant Behemoths, Mirelurk Queens, and Scorchbeasts alone. At least at level 30 even. These guys are best fought with a team. The community is the best I've ever seen. High level players tend to give away ammo, health supplies, and will even help build/rebuild Camps for others. The game is extremely good now. Scorchbeasts are the Dragons of the Fallout franchise as they are gigantic Bats.

Nooo! This video was hard enough to make on it's own. When Jon promised a future video in the first few minutes, my heart sank.

I would absolutely wait for that video essay! Let it take a year because he only does a little each day! I need more excellent essays for my ADHD!

I enjoyed my first bloodied power fist, but playing with that for months on end, because other similar legendaries were like .5% drop made me quit.

Plenty of people still did. They even say they're "addicted to the grind" without batting an eyelash. (How one can become addicted to *grind* is quite beyond me, but grind addiction is nonetheless a thing.) "Pull the lever; receive a 'reward'" obviously works on the psychologically vulnerable. That's what makes the practice so utterly despicable: it's the psychologically vulnerable who suffer the most. The player community likes to absolve itself of any responsibility whatsoever for the sorry state of video gaming today. Fact is, it would change if people stopped contributing to the nosedive in quality along with the predatory and exploitative industry trends actually responsible for microtransaction nightmares like Fallout 76. It's beyond sad because there are the makings of a great game in Fallout 76. It might even still be salvaged along with Bethesda's reputation and standing in the community, but Bethesda is pretty obviously not interested iin that because it's ignored every single suggestion for turning that around it has received.

But going back to fallout 4 after playing 76 you realize that once you pick up one of a kind of weapon there is no reason to check another. In 3 and new Vegas you could repair your weapon, in 4 sure you can scrap it but the resources you get compared to the weight of weapons was awful.

I mean, we can find subtext there. The game may not scream at you for doing a bad thing, but you *are* nuking a preserved slice of healthy land for your own material gain. The message is conveyed through your own actions, showing not telling.

I mean yeah kinda but the nuke wears off

🤔

It is possible he had to go to eat, pee, make food, go check who came for a visit etc so he paused and when he returned, simply continued recording and talking. It is easy to eliminate seams with modern voice/video editors and make it look like you talked half of the day.

@@Cybernaut76 r/WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

@@thomasjessewharton Jokes on u, he's joking

@@kaaz1010 jokes on you replying to a month old comment.

The Fallout 3 Mega Video didn't either - I prefer to jump straight in when it's a video essay.

@@ManyATrueNerd let's just jump into it

Nope, not gonna fly, start over!

@@ManyATrueNerd Like a teacher that starts class by throwing buckets of water over his students. Absolute madman...

That's how you knoe were in for something serious

Yup, I'd probably like to be a hardened killer in single player for a bit so my multiplayer character would have more reasons to track him down like it's a litteral scorched dude who is really good at killing

The community has been requesting a single player with co-op mode for years. That the request was blatantly ignored in favor of going the exploitative MMO, industry route speaks volumes about the state of video gaming today. "I think we were a little surprised how few people wanted to take part in PvP and how many more were interested in PvE together," said Pete Hines of 76. Really? And how's that Pete considering the aforementioned request of which Bethesda was well aware. The executives of Bethesda and Viacom couldn't have proven themselves more out of touch with the core appeal of Fallout or the player community they actually helped create if they'd tried. smh

You can’t make mega structures either

😂why is this not a top comment

Much like a good gigolo.

Especially balistic fibre which can only be found in military grade duck tape and military amo bags.

with bigger dick energy comes bigger dick demands.

FOR THE JUNK! FOR THE LUDD!

Have you watched his similar Video about Fallout 3? its just as good!

@@Excelsius_Cerell I have not seen that, I'll check it out. Thanks.

Hell, I'm 33 and I feel asleep a couple of times watching this over a few days. Nothing to do with the quality of the video, mind. Maybe I'm prematurely extra old?

Watch Jon's Frost playthrough of Fallout 4. Great videos. Regards from the Carromkid.

Well I'm 21 and actually I spent 2 days to finish this video properly, so don't think that's an issue at all. Bid you a good day sir, hope you always be in the positive part of the internet, always nice to watch some heart-feeling comments on these well-made videos.

More precisely You have a stash limit for server related issues, we can't do anything about that Oh wait, give us a hundred a year and have as much stash as you want, money powers our servers

Well in Fallout 1 and 2 you can use mods to add XXXX amount of carry weight. I have about 900 for Fallout 1 right now and it's glorious. In Fallout 3 and New Vegas I add 9000 weight with the in-game command console which is even easier. They can pay me to play any live service games which have become trash for rich people.

Ain’t that the rub?

Bethesda has been a mess for some time, we can only hope Microsoft can shape them up to be at their best. My only experiences with Beth is TES while on the other hand 76 became my first fallout experience (sadly). so it's kind of funny to me to discover that 76 is their worst game ever now that I'm lvl 111, it didn't seem too bad at first. But then you notice things. Things that were thoroughly discussed in this video lol

@@Mestephra RIP for 76 being your first experience. I would have quit and never looked back if I were you.

@@larryhoover2541 I'm sorta already in that process to be honest lol Uninteresting enemies, scenery, quests and combat... No incentive to keep playing. Beth really screwed up with this one, and I doubt I'm gonna try the other fallouts now because of that. Whoever is in charge of Bethesda content should just quit and let someone with real passion run the show. Their games suck, probably because they've been using that shitty engine they don't want to let go of. It kind of make me wonder how this company is still around 😒

@@Mestephra Fallout 3, NV and even fallout 4 have a lot of redeemable qualities, and if you have them on PC, its even better as the modding community really makes some good stuff. I would recommend checking that stuff out if it is at all possible for you!

@@larryhoover2541 I've heard some good about them, maybe I'll give them a shot. I'll gladly take some of the spite back if they're that good as people say. It sucks that my first impression of fallout had to be 76, after lvl 50 I find I just idle a lot. Launching a nuke the first time was cool, but afterwards I realized that was pretty much the only cool thing to work for. Just having different guns or cosmetics don't impress me much, innovative content and creativity does. The Scorch Beast queen is a boring "wait and shoot" for something that's supposed to be a major battle in the game (she's big, so why can't she grab n yeet people? Or send us flying if directly caught in her misty blue dash of disease?) The wendigo colossus is a stand and shoot, and yet with legs like his he could totally kick people around into the air. He does have his scream/fear mechanics but it's kind of a weird thing to have in a fight like his but at least it's something. I just wished these (and most) enemies had more special actions, AI and tactics. Adding AI personality would be a cool thing to see, enemies could diversify their behaviour making most encounters seem somewhat refreshing. But thats just my take. Anyone can go on about what could be, I just wished Beth would act on those ideas

If this is short.. I wonder what the long answer is... Oh lord

Oi, don't be pulling words out of my mouth.

@@someblokeontheinternet9368 well? We are listening..

x SO x FATAL x I’m waiting for his response, he’s probably still writing

Two and half hours later.

Not exactly. People want to be helpful, and it shows when they craft ammo, guns or armor for you, on the spot. They may also take your weapon from you, improve it, and then hand it back to you. The more experienced players remember very well how they struggled in the beginning of the game. Other than ammo, and a few other items, there is no need to give away stuff, because you can usually scrap or sell an item. With mules, you can even hold on to legendary gear, while you are waiting to turn them into scrip.

@@alohamark3025 yeah it was a very fun time there was this one golf area where a few high level characters cleared it out and set camp and when me n my friend found it there was like 15+ people trading guns and armor some were upgrading like you said and we were all trading as many mods as we could. It felt like the experience we should have been having all along

I got a level 25 legendary metal armor... I was level 8.

Once when I was level 11, a level 275 player gave me 100 Rad X and 75 RadAway

Maybe it wasn’t around at the time. But why didn’t you go to the Rusty Pick?

In about 6 years it'll be done

Private Servers won't have the resources to run even half the player number you see currently in the game due to the horrid engine. Not to mention how the delusional permanent(objects) and temporary(npcs) entity additions will crush them even faster.

@@sedlinasera3891 I find your lack of faith disturbing...

@@sedlinasera3891 Its probably based on linux, I'll bet people will find solutions and optimizations to run smoothly, and private servers can be run just for you and your friends...

@@thomasesr Faith has little to do with the simple fact that games with interactable world elements utilize simpler graphics for this very reason.

Benjamin Perreault “MINES. MINES SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS.” -MATN during the yolo new vegas run

I dont like people ummmm no what would be hard about these ideas

I dont like people no that wasn’t the question give me an example idiot

I dont like people not hard to turn an ash monster from passive to hostile Not hard to change the weapon system Not hard to spawn lots of robots and scorch beasts Not hard to just decrease the frickin camp placing range to form a town

I dont like people of course it’s unrealistic to use every single idea. He was just pointing out that MATN had many ideas that could be pitched to Bethesda to make the game better. No pitched idea will go in the same way out of your mouth into the game. There will always be changes. Improvements, compromises.

Nice review. Speaking of improvements in Fallout 76, what about a new game based on Fallout 76 that is much different? In the new game arch is to address the obvious situation of odd mysterious reoccurring enemies, more less static conditions, lack of real progress in rebuilding USA, and constant grind of characters. -- Tentative title: Fallout Appalachian Revelation -- It Seems Similar To Fallout 76 But Has New Focus and Dynamics (less grind): Appearances like Fallout 76, but it takes place in near future (~ one generation after Vault 76 opens), and is very different in mood with new realization by many characters getting sick of grind, with new wandering prophets, rise of philosophy and spiritual ideas, resistance movements, civil strife, discontent, and desire for higher quality of life by most everyone, except by those who are power players behind the scenes. --- CAUSE and EFFECT: Most inhabitants notice things are way more complex (from their history books) than before the war such as now more currencies, less safe travel, still no long communications to other states nor nations, no decent factories, constant survival, no large farms, no modern hospitals, and so on. They question the grind and lack of real progress in rebuilding "freedom" in USA. Examples include hostile enemies keep coming and their lives are largely a grind (loot, shoot scavenge, beg, quasi-slave to factions) TURNING POINTS & ODDITIES: Inhabitants start talking in unique ways, trying new creative things and new odd things occur even more. Like inhabitants either start moving outside the map or they disappear, or are taken, or major waves of mutants or ghouls appear from unexpected regions; and certain factions attempt to completely clear large areas, and they try to make large factories or large farms, or science research centers, but this effort may be met with resistance by mysterious aliens or by certain factions. SETTING & TIME: About 67 to 126 yrs later after opening Vault 76, and inhabitants questioning lack of progress. THREE TO FIVE POSSIBLE ENDS (some blended together): 1. Focus on progress by certain inhabitants creates civil war to region, and largely wide scale destruction that seems similar to 2077. 2. New mysterious influences from edges of map and by interior agents show even more harsh dangers causing panic and either fleeing map area, or going into stealth mode, or going into new bunkers. 3. Major progress efforts made by players and NPCs in clearing large areas and by establishing hospitals, working labs, large farms, govts, factories, but these may get wiped out by mysterious aliens, or new nuclear bombs. 4. One or more factions or special groups becoming either very powerful, or very hated by many in the region, and that faction(s) gets wiped out completely. So, maybe this could be a reason the Appalachian Brotherhood was not heard of again later in future Fallout lore. 5. Any combination of the previous scenarios could occur in the possible ends. LESSON OF NEW GAME: Freedoms are very hard to win and even a grind is not a guarantee for freedom, and may even hold you back, and mysterious enemies may always be out there, and could even be in your midst. --- RECAP: Players and NPCs start to learn from Fallout 76 and start facing the harsh facts of grind and how repeating the past is not necessarily a solution for the future. They dreadfully realize there are still mysterious things going on that are holding them back even after all they have gone through. So, they must take on new dynamic changes and learn new revelations to truly be free, and to truly rebuild freedoms. -- Copyright (C) April 7, 2023 by KEK Freedom Heritage - All Rights Reserved -- Permission to Share If Credit Given

Such as? 'Pay a hundred dollars a year for an infinite, virtual stash limit despite that we swore the limit couldn't be raised because it would cause stability issues for the game?' Or maybe it was the ultralong and boring introduction to a new currency to grind? Or was it the "content" harkienng to nostaligia for a former DLC best played over again? Please, enlighten us as to what the "workarounds" of which you speak actually were.

That would have made sense! How dare you.

We WISH they'd let us help them.

Also make said service delete fucking everything. According to our charts this should make them buy more if they have to start over. Also ban MATN from future Bethesda online services for showing us up like those pricks Obsidian did......twice.

Mirrors Andstuff yo dirty Seit ich mich t

Bullshit, it is 12.99$ a month, it’s 99.99$ for a year.

Just you wait guys they're adding a battle pass to it! Im not kidding look at the road map they put out. When will this pain end....

William Redding Lol the whole point of Fallout is to show how shitty the world becomes due to Nuclear War. Years later they put an idiot in the Game development department, fired all the previous developers of fallout, and said lets make Nukes fun again!

Im with you on that james

James Bautista Yeah, but I figure that if Bethesda is gonna have player controlled nukes anyway, they might as well take the artistic opportunity, and the nuclear shadows might bring a bit of the original tone/theme back. I generally think that the nukes should function like they did in New Vegas, but ruin the whole map instead of just two isolated locations.

I feel like you see what was lost for your character choice's

James Bautista The world doesn’t take 500 years to rebuild after a nuclear holocaust lol. You’re dealing with nuclear fallout which disappears after like what, a year or two, not nuclear waste itself

Yeah, the only thing that was implemented was mediocre stories, and very repetetive endgame content. Now they're just full on doing these 'seasons', which have more in common with Path of Exile than a Fallout game.

And talk and argue about "bad decisions", or illogical things... When it's always been about daylight robbery (and not much else), meh. ;$

I'm already half dead from all these shots at 30 minutes in 😂🤢☠️☠️

Not trynna get alci poisoning

Every time he mentions cogs I think of the big sexy cogs from civ 6

Gotta work tonight, sadly :(

If you wanted to kill people, might as well have it be for saying “survival” or just “76”.

@ball stealthy I hope Todd sees this, bro.

Players wanted a Coop Multiplayer Version of Fallout 4 ? 🤔

@Vote for Trump Vote for Treason >Thinks voting for trump is voting for treason >is retarded Checks out

Todd is a lying asshole.

your profile pic is the best! I still have my original release Cheetah action figure from when I was little

+Cheetarah Yeah, i just re-watched his Fallout 3 Video yesterday so when i saw this in my Notifications and it's Length i hoped for a Video in the same Style and Quality

Hope it doesn't better than the Fallout 3 one. Because that was a worthy cause.

Patterrz Wait...you watch...but... THIS HAS HAPPENED ON BOTH FALLOUT ESSAYS! NEXT THING I KNOW FALLOUT BROTHERHOOD IS BETTER THAN YOU THINK WILL HAVE A COMMENT FROM PEWDIEPIE

yes this is a very cool idea

I remember when you mentioned Jon in I believe either your Dark Rising Nuzlocke or your versus with Mo in Blaze Black. Ever since then, I've been watching him for a long time! You're a true legend Patterrz, win all of those versus and locke's!

Hey, aren't you the guy who does Pokemon videos? Wait a moment... You ARE the guy who ran a nuzlocke a while back that I listened to and you've complained that all your comments want you to fail while there is a youtuber called Many a True Nerd who did a thing called Fallout: New Vegas You Only Live Once which basically was a nuzlocke but with guns and that's how I started watching this channel all these years back. Huh. The youtube world is small indeed.

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Yes, people wanted Fallout 4 (or NV) with couch co-op and not the broken MMO that 76 was...

Yes, yes it is.

But I'm okay with that. :D

I think Jon shouldnt just build on top of the satellite dish, he should BUILD a satellite dish

haha i get the joke because of van buren being black isle studios's first attempt which became obsidian's new vegas haha am i smart mommy

Yes,dear.

war? between towns

@Tri-Shake-Atops jon got banned?

You can't prove anything.

@@ManyATrueNerd I knew it!

I want to be in control of a train line charge a fee feed it coal and oil. Would be neat.

perhaps make it a settlement. Mobile, armored. a place of stability, a point of power. in a peaceful server, it is a mobile hub that encourages trading and travel over a wide area, like the traveling merchants; in a nuclear hellscape, it is the only place that is safe from the radiation and pollution, a place that raiders will target, and people will have to defend and keep supplied.

@@spacebear4742 In a nuclear hellscape of raiders and bandits, the raiders have mounted turrets and an artillery piece onto their trainline, bombing any poor unsuspecting settlement it gets too close to. You know, just some good old fashioned post apocalyptic fun!

*TODD HOWARD* (praise His name) wears a leather jacket and has cool shoes. He needs no help from those cowering before his gaze. The women love his peanus.

@@jeffdenza5759 "... peanus" *WHEEZE*

@@jeffdenza5759 FUCK TODD HOWARD HIS LAZINESS RUINED THE BEST VIDEOGAME FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME

@@Chuked Best franchise? Please.

Well, 7 months later and I can confirm- they did watch it. Then they thought to themselves: Jon thinks we can be more, what if we can be even less? What if we can put up a $100 pay wall for a private server and bleep the consumer completely?

The game world is gorgeous (or, at least, it was until they made lighting and assorted other changes) and a pleasure to explore. It also contains some of the best environmental storytelling ever to appear in a Bethesda game. The artists and developers themselves did a wonderful job with it Too bad that's all there is to it.

No with this level of creativity. It would never work for those kids at bethesda

Wrong franchise, but nice try, Atlas.

He likes fallout 3 it would still have bad npcs

I'd prefer it if the game he described was made by someone other than Bethesda at this point.

SpeedingOffence I'm playing the Metro Franchise right now. If you need an alternative post apocalyptic game play Metro. its basically the fallout of Russia. just more shooty lol

They did. It is called rust where the players that are in a group can monopolize resources in a way to exclude those other people in a place that is barren and lacks conveniant resources

@@OgBadlaws until they get their compound spear raided and door camped by eokas after a bunch of nakeds get pissed lmao

replace weapons with children. **banjo music starts**

Technically, but it works better. You trade 1 iron and leather strap you found for a 5 gold shitty iron dagger that raises your general smithing ability the equivalent of looking for 2 minutes at a git on the front of a book smithing. Then you can either sell the dagger, or spend a shitty soul gem to increase price (also increasing enchanting) again, low, but still there. Then you can improve it for one more iron (up to legendary) for more smithing. Then you can sell your,amazing shitty dagger to someone for 2 things. Gold and speech. Every action you took in that took something away, but gave you something more permanent in return. I always have felt if they just took the fucking leveling system from Skyrim, imported it into fallout, Shoot an enemy 100 times? 1 point to whatever type of weapon you're using Sell a valuable piece of prewar,tech for 5000 caps? A couple points to barter and your caps. You want to level up your speech? Level it up by doing the diplomatic options instead of fighting, even if the option is just minor like disputing the price of an item, or lying to someone so they give you 50 caps if you wanna be a bastard. I just feel Skyrim was 2nd best in is world and characters and people. And 1st best in its mechanics. Combining the two into a centralized single player experience like a traditional fallout game, having the option that works canonically for playing online as an option with Skyrim like improvement as you do them mechanics would just make an online fallout game so much more fun knowing you actually have to shoot your gun to be good with a gun.

It's society. They work for each other

@@chrissimon5810 I wouldn't consider invalidating literally all loot (including daedric artifacts which were meant to be pretty much unrivaled in Power) as well as the entire idea of a build with a stupidly overpowered enchanting system "1st best in it's mechanics"

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I was with you until the idea of permadeath. For me, permadeath means that I don't take risks or have as much fun, especially in a game that follows the Fallout 4 crafting system. I can't imagine going into a world, building things, and setting up a base/network of other players/whatever just for it all to be lost to me. It's why I also never played hardcore minecraft, I just don't want my time wasted. Conversely, a permadeath system seems to me to run counter to their idea of "Fallout with your friends." If one of your buddies dies or gets killed, what then? They just can't play with you anymore? They restart at level 1? This makes the whole thing messier in my opinion, and it raises the entry level too much for other players. Like the video here mentions, there are probably many players who are only familiar with Fallout 4. Suddenly adding permadeath and the like to the next game is going to alienate too many players like me, and I'd argue that there are more players out there who dislike permadeath than like it. Permadeath belongs in horror games, not multiplayer fallout.

@@tannerchaffin9235 lol thinking about permadeath in a mini mmorpg that you can build settlements with your friends in *killed* me, imagine being like 14 hours in and you finally got some decent mods on your gun and you have a decent set of amor and a little camp setup with your friend, and you just die, lose everything and cant even restart. You just get console banned after paying 60 dollars for the game. I'd cry haha

And servers that keeps progress like ARK

Most of this is interesting. But like Jon had with the Raiders and perma-PVP enabled... well I get flashbacks to the days when Diablo II was new and playing online. And what the experience on most servers was like. A group of high level (often hacked stats) players sitting outside the Rogue Encampment ready to slaughter a newbie who comes in. Frankly I see no reason why it wouldn't end up like that in the game. If they had permanent PVP raider players and such... they'd probably just spawn camp Vault 76 or Flatwoods annihilating new players just for kicks. Because people get off on that. And with an MMO where you're trying to get players invested "Lulz, you're spawn camped when you start the game" is not a good solution. And it is 100% what people would do. Because they have done that in online games, a lot. However the idea of NPCs being PCs is an interesting thing and something that would be fun to see in action. Remove the vendor bots, if you want to trade, you have to trade with other players. THus you'll start getting people setting up an economy say, harvesting materials for those who can't be half assed, who are paying in caps and quest rewards because they just want swag and don't want to waste time gathering. Plenty of MMOs do have economies like that, so we know it can work out. Just, at the point where you're hitting permadeath and PVP, you basically just killed off the MMO to a slow death. Which is why it was a decent move for them to have a designated PVP mode in Nuclear Winter. I'm of a mixed opinion about Wastelanders and adding NPCs to the setting. Honestly if they were going to keep the inability to build up settlements and player enclaves (Due to CAMP barriers and such), it was the right call... but I don't think that was the right call overall.

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Fancy finding someone with the same surname as I irl lmao

Jon: it sucks, but you could fix it if some people pull their heads out of their asses

Fallout 76 is just... so weird. I respect it for that.

Jon: Heres an essay on why it sucks and how Bethesda could fix it and why Bethesda refuse to fix it.

He does say at the end that he doesn't even think 76 is a bad game at the end of the video, but he does think it could've been better

well jon's smart and he don't follow hate bandwagons.

Amber “It just works!”

@Forsaken Pumpkin wtf cyberpunk was a shitshow built on unethical labor from start to finish 76 still sucks and has implemented a plethora of gacha mechanics and other base systems requiring monetization to bypass?

@@wunderpuma4453 unethical release and unethical labor is two different things if you don't know that already lmao

they did put in efforts, with the folklore being variants of a monster, not to mention the world design, just because the internet say it's bad doesn't mean every part of it is, like come on, have you learn to grow up? that's the equivalent of hoping your child to born with every skills that exist on our universe. fallout 76 is a flawed game, in many ways, it's not perfect, not to mention zenimax is the one taking control of monetization, not bethesda.

while all that happens BGS was also forced to rush 76, yes it is rushed, it wasn't planned to be bad from start, which is oddly enough leads to bethesda softworks delaying DOOM ETERNAL, hence saving both id's reputation and DOOM ETERNAL itself.

I think we'd all prefer Jon's version

@@traviscuperus5692 We can all dream....

76 is trying to be great at everything and is thus good at nothing. You can't have an easy, casual environment while simultaneously being a hardcore survivalist experience, they're on a spectrum like hot and cold. Being more of one means being less of the other. Same deal with multiplayer and single player experiences. Same with trying to emphasize both lone wolf and party experiences (though you can to some degree be pretty decent at both given the citizens vs raiders scenario). 76 Needs to pick one aspect on each spectrum and stick with it, or else be mediocre at all of them. Just my conclusion though.

Someone could potentially make it as a mod for Fallout 4 a couple years down the line

I feel like they could manage to have both. Maybe some of the more epic fights would basically require a team, and allow people who want a combat-focused experience have fun without needing to worry too much about survival (since they have a group backing them up), but make it possible to get by alone with sneaking and _sensible cowardice_ to get a more hardcore survival experience.

So this.

I can finally be the sniper doctor.

@@RunFromCities you can hunt meat for my dishes!

I could be a travelling medic. It would be awesome.

I can be a cowboy bandit who (after a period of time) will try to find some redemption for his actions...yas.

Same. The Modders must be mobilized!

@@fumarc4501 as good as the modding community is at fixing Bethesda's messes, i dont think even they can fix this level of mess.

@Raptor Cell NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE! Take my money!

@@fumarc4501 If we give them enough resources and money it shall be done. EVERYBODY! TO THE DIAMOND MINES!

I think Jon's 76 would be worth the $80 price tag.

I want to play Jon 76

I....id kinda dig that

That would be hilarious.

Instructions unclear, introduced gay frogs.

But because he/she was still low-leveled and not specced into heavy weapons, when said character tries to fire it the Fatman miss fires and blows themselves up. xD

But his Luck is 10 so the missile ricochets into the nearest scorch beast

Time for Jon to become a game developer.

Jon-seph Anderson

As someone with a strong interest in games design, long form /dissertations/ like this are absolutely wonderful. As much fun as it can be to poke fun at F76, and how useful and valid it can be to point out it's boons and failings from a technical level; analysis and possible solutions are just way frikkin better!

@@NK-fh3st if you arent subbed to Joseph Anderson then you should go do that

@@greybayles7955 Waaay ahead of you, but thanks for the recommendation anyway! Mandalore isn't too bad either, but is more short-form and general about more niche games.

More Zenimax, though really. The parent company is the one who’s been pushing for a cash grab game

Yeah, but it would have been just as cheap to make and popular at the start if you removed the grind. Why make an intentionally boring cash grab when a more exciting one would've made just as much money and been less harmful to future sales.

Ethan Viator it was. But the company they put on the job had alot of love foe the franchise

@Ethan Viator I'd agree that you shouldn't label a game as cheap cash grab just because you don't like it... but this game is definitely a cheap cash grab, through and through. Rushed development, very buggy launch, high microtransaction prices, mishandled customer support... New vegas is also a cheap cash grab, yes, but it's the exception in that it's actually came out very good in spite of its intention and its developmental and technical dumpster fire, so we don't care that it is.

@Ethan Viator The reason so many people say fallout 76 was a cash grab is the shady marketing and the in-game store with hilariously overpriced items.

Oh. This sounds like how new world was supposed to work. I wish that fallout 76 had this. All my friends and I are with the enclave, just because of the sheer amount of blueprints and supplies they have.

I couldn't agree more. I remember being berated in the Bethesda forums for saying a voiced protagonist was a huge mistake. Recorded dialogue requires more data, and severely limits the roleplaying aspects. Where most conversations in earlier games had half a dozen multi-branching dialogue paths, the choices in FO4 were generally less, and branched much less often. I just wanted my old Int 1 character to blurt out "Icecream!" when responding to questions.

First of all, FO3 was their best Fallout game, not 4. Secondly, calling FO4 the “most shallow game of all time” is completely idiotic

@@afungai1649 FO3 was amazing one of the first I played but I have to say FNV is a little better just adds more gameplay and other things to do

I do feel the core gameplay of 4 has been the best in the franchise. Crafting and exploration is the best it's ever been. 76 should have been that aspect on steriods

Oliver Standing NV might be more in line with the originals and is an overall more traditional RPG, however it was made by Obsidian. Of all the BGS FO games (3, 4, 76), I still firmly believe that 3 is the best Fallout game they’ve ever made. 4 wasn’t bad by any means, hell it fixed a ton of issues from the old games and made the factions way more developed, but many changes to simplify the formula made the game feel way less like an actual Fallout RPG and more like action adventure looter shooter thing. Again the game is absolutely fantastic and I’ve put in a shit load of hours into it, but still.

as sane people once said, nobody should listen to a guy that wears a fedora

Not even Indiana Jones?

@@Spiffo0 it's a trilby

@@Spiffo0 not even an armoured battle fedora?

Juliett A you ween it onto hobnobs

So sad but so true

damn, first time i see someone saying something sensible about the big problem about fallout and bethesda

@Dibidam85 Agreed. Sadly Bethesda only wants fanboy zombies, not the dedicated nameless fans that have been with them over the decades. Corporate and their hierarchy spawn want to monopolize all the creative power. They would never allow developers to listen to even basic feedback from true fans like Jon and his video here. In fact, Bethesda is currently doubling down on insanity: they are now hiring monetization experts for future games because they thought the weakpoint of 76's low sales was unoptimized microtransactions. (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (Personally a fan since Morrowind. I think I'm going to have an aneurysm. . .)

@@dragonhold4 fyi it has been stated on multiple occasions that sales and recurring revenue from microtransactions are not grouped into the same earnings pile. I guess what I'm saying is, please stop talking out of your ass.

Either Todd Howard is the problem with Bethesda, or Bethesda is using him as the fall man that takes the heat. I really can't tell which.

I had started collecting the different teddy bears, until I hit the stash limit. Then I had to scrap my babies

@@LightofJustice93 a moment of silence for the fallen babies, muggy from NV got me collecting coffee mugs from every fallout I play now.

yeah This is why i like MATN.

(Sorry for going pretty much on a rant here) I fully agree, a game as described would be a cult hit and from a design perspective quite sound if balanced well. Though it wouldn't have as much widespread appeal, it wouldn't be as casual an experience. Most fans of the franchise and and many fans of gaming in general want less casual, more interesting games. Yet let's not forget that more-so than the content, the money drives development and publishers (let's not forget that Zenimax, being the publisher and thus having majority say in decisions, is responsible for the bad decisions as much if not more-so than Bethesda, although this doesn't mean Bethesda isn't at major fault themselves) want as many people to play their game as possible, especially if the game is going to have microtransactions. However a casual game will attract a lot of people, that will play less often, and stop far sooner, while a hardcore fanbase may be smaller, but play more often and stick with the game for far longer. More hardcore fans would also be the ones more willing to buy your microtransactions more-so than casual players. More players on paper sounds good for profits, in the short run, but a smaller but hardcore fanbase can be far more profitable in the long run. I've also been programming for almost 16 years, and I by far am no where near what I would consider a great programmer, yet even at my current skill level, none of the ideas he suggested in the video are that difficult. In practice there would be major balancing that would need to go on and many revisions, but fundamentally from a mechanics perspective none of it is particularly that hard of an engineering challenge, and the framework and fundamentals for most of it already exist or are close to existing. The features themselves are quite simple for the most part, but the main problem in getting any of this done is that every decision needs to be approved in most environments, some studios will allow their designers and programmers to prototype ideas to present, or even work on a separate branch to implement into the game without approval without them being merged into the primary branch until approved, even so for even seemingly tiny changes the amount of bureaucracy that is involved is immense and getting approval of small ideas, let along large ones can take large meetings with investors, publishers, executives, etc and can take weeks. Bethesda from what I understand is a fairly casual environment compared to many large studios, but they still answer to Zenimax, who would function like described. Bethesda has a few advantages here, with the main studio being more relaxed for the most part and more casual environment, local decisions can be made faster, but not major ones that affect the core of the game. However the second advantage is that it's an online live service. As least in theory this would grant more freedoms in design as the game has already sold or reached most of it's playerbase/has already launched and deadlines aren't as much of a factor, in fact live-service games practically live on content updates. The reason I say in theory however is because this game launched in such a state that the reception of it was so negative, chances are that Zenimax won't let Bethesda take any major monetary risks, and changing the game this dramatically would be a massive risk, it would be a major investment, into something that both hasn't been explored much before, and also may not recoup the investment cost due to its reputation. A live-service that launches to positive reception will likely be given far more creative freedom by it's publisher(s) and their investors, the less, the less. That being said if they could roll out parts of this at a time that reduces the risk over having it as a focus, new content and new safe content is highly likely to drive some monetary gains allowing Bethesda to take a couple risks at a time. But if a turnaround takes too long the game may never be able to recover and the game has been out for a significant amount of time and hasn't progressed in many important areas yet. Also honestly Bethesda seriously needs to clean up it's engine, not necessarily make a new one of use a new one, but overhaul many aspects of their current one at least, as they've just piled more and more stuff on top of a very inefficient and old infrastructure that pretty much no one really uses anymore, this has led to their engine being extremely bloated and messy and being in general a pain to deal with. Tasks which are trivial in most other engines, or even making one from scratch are far harder to do in the Creation Engine, and modders, who have had to use the tools can contest to the tedium and problems with the tools and engine. The game looks okay for the most part, but lackluster textures, models, animations and lighting/materials are everywhere, and while that's not a deal breaker, to have low-fidelity graphics you'd expect the game to run quite well as it's not as graphically intensive (or shouldn't be if done right), yet it doesn't. The game runs poorly on even the most powerful systems and has since launch, and has only gotten marginally better. Worse graphics in addition to worse performance isn't very acceptable and is almost exclusively because of how fundamentally problematic their game engine is at this point, using decades old rendering logic with some modern effects and changes thrown in on top of it. It would make their games faster to make, easier to make, less buggy, allow more complicated features to be possible to add without insane amounts of workarounds or hacky solutions and insane effort.

@@DreadKyller Yup

I have a story from jon's FO76 single player, (though there would be no enclave) just outside the ash-heap, you see a free-state, a Responder, a raider, and a BOS paladin all sitting by a fire, the player will most likely be curious about why these factions that usually show such open hostility are just sitting by a fire, so they ask one of them why they're all together, and one of them tells the player character about how all their (same faction) buddies died venturing into the ash-heap, they all got lost but ran into each other,. when they first met each other they were going to kill one another, but realized that it would be stupid. so they started to work together to try to escape the ash-heap, the raider had given some pointers on weaknesses of the ash-creatures (that's what I'm calling them) from some of their raider friends' stories about killing ash-creatures. the Responder uses their medical know-how to help them become more resistant to the ash-heap's air, and treats any wounds. the free state uses their survival/scavenging skills to keep the group fed off nothing but what they brought, and what they can find on unlucky corpses and finds a way to turn some of the ash into something useful (I don't know yet) and the BOS paladin's general combat skills keep the ash-creatures off their backs. and in the multiplayer, this group would still be alive, because they weren't at the big major battle (which would happen at the end of the game where all the factions fought over access to a nuclear launch site in order to nuke the other's bases, but it malfunctions and then the scorched rise and scorchify everybody in the vicinity, and since so many people were there, nobody left in appalachia could mount an assault on the scorched beast and died to the high number of scorched) and the free state member lead them to a bunker with tons of provisions to last all of them a lifetime, and then they just settled there, they could even act as merchants and sell you stuff. the entire point is to help enforce the whole working together moral like in vault 11, as they manage to work together and play to each other's strengths , allowing them to survive. while everybody else got themselves killed over idiotic rivalries.

@@DreadKyller I always use wrestling logic when it comes to these kinda games. The hardcore fans will buy it regardless, you have to draw the casuals in. It doesn't necessarily make the product better but mass appeal is the goal.

Reminds me of the backlash against Ready Player One's movie adaptation use of the Iron Giant

Ian Henderson Let’s be honest, the nukes in Lonesome Road were pretty pointless and only opened up high level combat arenas. Almost exactly like 76, except without rare crafting components.

@@CrimsonKnight77 I find myself in the minority it seems, but I freaking hated Lonesome Road. I thought that was a very weak DLC. Only reason I wasn't pissed about it was because I got GOTY edition super cheap.

@@lorenhusky2717 I like Lonesome Road, but I'm usually burned out before I ever make it far enough that I want to go through it.

I nuked both for the weapons xD

They actually did it. DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL.