Fallout Iceberg EXPLAINED (Lore, Theories, Myths, and Retcons) Pt 1 

21:21 I think that one refers to the phrase "when you see an NPC being attacked and you go and help him/her out, you're the Mysterious Stranger to them"

1. Ghoul whales were spoken about throughout the game between npcs. I almost didn’t want to explore the water due to my fear of underwater large surprises. 2. The synth mannequins can hold some weight as there’s a point in the game where you’re in a room full of mannequins and one synth. I always believed they were synths.

I was the mysterious stranger for a low level in Fallout 76. I was in stealth, up on a rocky cliff. I could see the other player was battling too many supermutants at once, down below. without being detected, I softened up the targets so he could more easily finish them off. My activity was masked by all the noises and explosions going on, and the player was able to enter the building and complete whatever quest he was on, I'm sure.

With the dogmeat synth theory i think you’re missing the fact that he’s a purebred German shepherd 200 years after society ends. I think it is very unlikely that anyone could have the will or means to keep a line of purebred German shepherds for 200 years. I think it’s more likely that the institute made one to remind the sole survivor of their time before the war, making them a bit more comfortable. Along with the other points you mentioned in your video, I think it’s very likely dogmeat is a synth.

In hotel California there’s the line “ you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave” this slots perfectly with the sierra madre and how you’re trapped in it but you can still die

I always though the Grenade man was Rex, and he eventually ended up at Trinity Tower. He is an actor after all

I think a lot of people today forget how hard it was to determine what was or wasn't extinct before we started recording everything constantly. We thought gorillas were extinct for decades! Potatoes could very easily be extinct on the east coast and cats on the west and no one would know they exist on the other side of the country.

18:05 While yes the Carhenge easter egg is a reference to Stonehenge, I believe it's more of a reference to the ACTUAL Carhenge found in Alliance, Nebraska made by Jim Reinders.

Another fun fact about the connection between the Sierra Madre and Hotel California is that alot off quests in MV are named after songs like Kick in the head, come fly with me, one for my baby, Nothing but a hound dog and Eddie my love

Given how dark the fallout universe can be, cant wait to get to the bottom.

Yeah nothing weird about a pure blood German Shepherd showing up in the middle of an atomic wasteland with no mutations and 200 years after all dog breeders are gone.

Deepest lore is actually me. I dropped the first nukes in the Fallout Universe. I am a business man after all....

8:05 I agree with it being scary. I'm happy it was the location of the last Bobblehead, because I couldn't find my way out again. So I just reloaded a save after finding the Bobblehead and getting the achievement.

17:50 And she said *'We are all just prisoners here, of our own device'* -> The Madre not letting go And in the master's chambers, They gathered for the feast They stab it with their steely knives, But they just can't kill the beast -> Attacking the security holograms Last thing I remember, I was Running for the door I had to find the passage back To the place I was before 'Relax, ' said the night man, 'We are programmed to receive. You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!' -> The greeter hologram not letting anyone leave the casino

In regards to the potato theory it's possible that it did go extinct on the East Coast while we know River City is growing them it's possible that they're the only exception and that they cannot produce a large enough number to replace the tato. As for New Vegas it's possible that either it was never extinct or it was brought back from extinction by a major faction such as the NCR, vault city, or shi . Also the grenade guy is probably a reference to Michael Winslow from Police academy.

19:28 I think grenade man is a reference to Police Academy, and the character that Michael Winslow plays. Michael Winslow is a master of making sounds with only his voice. In the original movie, he meets the main character, played by Steve Guttenberg, after being arrested. When Guttenberg's character asks what he was in for, Winslow says, "I'll show you" and grabs a microphone and vocally mimics (perfectly) the sound of automatic rifle fire, and everyone freaks out. He's probably the best part of the series in my opinion, because his sounds are honestly on point and quite funny. But yeah, he does things like mimic rifle fire and motorcycle sounds, so this is way too specific for it to be coincidental. It's also a movie series from the 80s and many of the guys writing for Bethesda grew up then, so I'm certain they'd know that series of movies, I mean there were like 5 or 6 sequels or something like that.

I think this may be the first time I've ever learned something new about this game in years because i genuinely never knew Carla was/is an Institute spy.

It wasn't explicitly mentioned that it was the New Plague, but it's very likely that it was also in Fallout 4. McCready's son, Duncan, is mentioned to have a disease that causes him to be covered in blue boils, and his companion quest consists of trying to get a treatment for him from the West Tek facility. It could be some other disease, but it could also be the New Plague. Nothing there is ever really confirmed.

I still like the idea of the zetans being the ones starting the great war. It's a goofy theory that I think fits in quite well with fallout's universe

The "Nate is a synth" theory reminds me of the "deckard was a replicant" theory, I guess in both it's just up to interpretation

I don't believe that cats in Fallout 4 are synths as in FO4, there is a small, unmarked location, a small shack, that has just a bunch of cats, pet food bowls and a merchant. Talking to the merchant, you can buy cat meat from her. To me, this suggests she's breeding these cats for meat to sell/eat and if the cats are breeding, they aren't synthetic.

You can't really say that Nate or Nora remembers too much about pre-war to be a synth when Nick had an entire Pre-War consciousness in an older model. Even if it's not full he remember ridiculous details in his quest from what I can remember.

The New Plague is also referenced by MacCready in Fallout 4. His son is sick and the symptoms match up except for the hemorrhaging

The X-01 retcon never happened, APA =/= X-01 76 even explains that X-01 is experimental prewar pa APA was designed based on X-01 designs by the enclave later on

I think we can confirm the flatwoods monster is a zetan from this last invader event. Lol. But yeah before the event it seemed obvious. You could see their face in photo mode and they checked off the take a photo of alien challenge prior to the last update

I really like the calm vibe of your videos, no loud voices and only facts. Keep making more! 😁

fun fact: the flatwoods monster IS a Zetan, this is not a theory, it's confirmed fact due to them appearing within the Zetan Invasion event fallout 76 had not too long ago as a fairly common enemy fighting along side the other Zetans and robots in the invasion force.

Always been a fan of these iceberg videos, nice to watch one did by you :)

10:08 I’m a believer in the Dogmeat is a synth, purely because he’s a perfectly healthy and highly intelligent dog. Every other dog is irradiated, but this random dog that’s incredibly friendly, looked like a purebred German Shepherd, and is very healthy is just hanging out at a gas station? That’s weird. I don’t think he’s an informant or being used to watch you (although that’s a possibility. The institute uses fake birds. We know that for a fact), I think he’s a synth animal as part of their terraforming projects, and they disposed of him by chucking him topside. Or maybe the experiment was a success, and Dogmeat was left on the surface to help repopulate the dogs with healthy genes.

>Shows up and instantly bonds with the sole survivor >Helped fight throughout the wasteland >Led the sole survivor right into their spouse's killer doorstep >Doesn't even utter a single word when you need to do what's to be done even though it's morally wrong actions So yeah, Dogmeat is unfathomably based

There is a location in 4 where you can find synths hiding in a group of mannequins

Why is Shaun being Father only a theory? If they explicitly say in the game that Father IS Shaun, I think the theory should be that Father ISN'T Shaun

Dude, I really really enjoyed this. I can sincerely say I am gonna be super stoked for part 2.

Something I was thinking about is it'd be cool to restore the wasteland more each game. I know they all take place during different time periods. Some before or after each other. But it'd be cool to restore the world to normal again. I think fallout 4 in a way started that idea. Being able to build settlements was basically like restoring the commonwealth. But I mean something as simple as removing debris or garbage and cleaning up. Rebuilding. Things like that.

15:25 my personal way to solve the "things were called extinct in one game and exist in another" is just the fact that they are locally extinct where the games take place. Considering the fact that pretty much every location is cut off from each other almost entirely it's possible people don't know that things existed elsewhere. It also makes logical sense in the case of the potato, for example. Fallout new Vegas takes place fairly close to parts of America that had large agricultural usage, so potatoes surviving makes sense, while in fallout 4, in the areas around Boston, potatoes were mostly obtained from the outside world and as such there wasn't enough to make a natural population and crossbreeds had to be made.

On the topic of redcons, while I do agree with you that an IP owner is free to do all the redcons he wants, I do think that people should be free to dislike said changes and critique it.

"Whole lot of ruckus for something that isnt a big deal" "Retcons don't matter" Bruh theres like less than 5 suits of power armor pre fallout 4 it's not hard to get right. Also like you said I figured it was a prototype but what pisses me off is the fallout 4 load screens that contradict what is in the game. Even if there are discrepancies and inconsistencies, the least they can do is have everything WITHIN fallout 4 be consistent

There's still so much to know about the world of fallout

Love the theory about the lonesome drifter , very believable

I appreciate your visuals + editing. Very appropriate to the topics you discuss in your videos and they go well with your narration!!

Technically speaking, the Fallout universe is connected to the Elder Scrolls universe through c0da. Especially if Tod Howard believes in c0da. Meaning Tod is a godhead like Kirkbride was.

I always like longer videos you do, great iceberg!

The thumbs up thing, while it is bunk, that doesn't mean that people in the fallout universe believe it. Remember, the government had our school kids put their hands over their heads while under their desks to "protect" themselves from a nuke.

I don't really like the whole "P.A.M. started the war" theory. On top of it not really mattering in the end, it kind of misses what I see as the point of P.A.M. as a character, and is just a little mean-spirited towards her. P.A.M. is a defining example of the arrogance of the pre-war United States. They built a *Predictive* Analytics Machine, who made well-informed and highly accurate *predictions,* and then discarded what it said because they weren't concrete "yes or no" conclusions - even though they were proven correct, as evidenced by the Yangtze sitting along Boston's harbor.

Hey, love the video hope you go big like the others, take it easy bro

With the flatwoods monster being a zetan the new event in 76 confirms that it is a zetan as is gets zap down from the space ship

Fun fact: Carhenge is an actual place. There's a chance the Easter egg in Fallout 4 may be referring to that

It’s fun to think that the Brotherhood just doesn’t know about potatoes

If I ever see Doc doing that, I will buy a lottery ticket.

Hotel California is a song about a person that died, and their soul is trapped in that hotel. It's a purgatory, so to speak. "You can checkout anytime you want, but you can never leave."

Mr. House original picture was changed because the devs thought he looked too manic. The character who was a stand in for Howard Hughes had a bit of a Walt Disney design bent to him. But this was removed. Also read up on Walt Disney and his plans for EPCOT. It's very Mr. House

17:42 "Some dance to remember" and "Some dance to forget" could also refer to the holograms and the other "friendly" inhabitants of the Sierra Madre

Finally a full vid

dogmeat doesn't show up at Kellogg's house unprompted, Nick says he's going to call Dogmeat with a special signal you can't hear, implying he uses a dog whistle to call him.

nick whistled for dogmeat aka the prompt to show up at Kellogg's house

let's go my man made an iceberg

Never heard of the hotel California theory till now! Such a cool idea it's totally my new headcannon

I’m absolutely convinced that Dogmeat is a synth. He’s a seemingly perfect dog 200 years into the apocalypse. Considering they make a point of showing the gorillas and establishing that the institute is capable of making synth animals it just seems like obvious conclusion. Father wanted to ensure the protagonists survival and success in finding him without directly interfering so he gave the sole survivor dogmeat to help guide them and help them cope with the wasteland mentally.

In regards to the mannequins, there's a boat you can swim out to that was carrying a shipment of mannequins and there are logs where a crew member talks about strange noises and that the mannequins seem to move when you're not looking. Now this is all pre-war info so they may not be just mannequins but it kind of removes the institut6e from the equation, imo.

There is quite a bit in this vid I've never heard of. Great vid👍

When he mentioned the sentry bot I remember the time I was stuck In a room at the national guard training yard with a sentry bot outside, no health or ammo, and only a suit of power armor stopping it from murdering me

I think dog mate is a descendant of Nate original dog he mentioned that his dog was gone

Huge fan of your short term content and am loving the longer stuff too! I always love hearing different creators takes on the fallout franchise, I've watched almost all the lore I can get to and seeing your shorts is like a little refresher or reminder of things I've missed!

I love your videos I hope you have a good day

This is a franchise that has a ghoul who turned into a tree, talking 10ft Shrek people, talking engineered lizards ect ect, dogmeat just having descendents is probably the most believable thing in the franchise

14:48 (In Fallout 4) Once max affinity is reached with MacCready he will have a mission for you where you help him get the cure that Westek was working on for his kid in the Capital Wasteland

"We are all just prisoners here, of our own device" "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave"

15:40 it's just the fo4 cat situation. they're gone in one region, and ignorance makes people think they're completely extinct when all they know is their backyard.

Impossible potato? We have handfuls of examples today where a plant, bug, fish, ect was thought to be extinct but was rediscovered decades later. NV is years in the future from 4 so potatoes have yet to be rediscovered in the Eastern US.

If you're looking for more iceberg videos I recommend the full roblox iceberg directors cut

I think "grenade man" is Deacon.

The 'You are a Synth' thing got me good because of the whole 'Captain Avery' thing. Scared the shit out of myself because I'd chosen the name Avery at random!

So glad i found this channel

Potato’s went extinct to the worlds knowledge however in a year post war, post the east coast brotherhood’s migration to the pentagon, they were rediscovered in a small valley in California and spread like wildfire throughout the west.

the thing that really sells me on father actually being shaun is that I made my character's spouse a monstrosity on multiple occasions and he got some of it, bugeye father will forever haunt my dreams

Carhenge actually returns as a hidden, unmarked location in Fallout 76

The line where it says "you can check out any time like but you can never leave" reminds me of that end where you get locked in the hotels vault

Hotel California is one of my favorite songs of all time and New Vegas is my favorite game so I'm amazed I never pieced that together myself

Everytime i hear wendigoon either mentioned or guests anywhere i feel like a proud dad because when I first leanred about him he only had a measly 100k so it feels good watching somebody do the stuff that makes them hgappy while being able to make money from it

With the grenade Man story, there are actually multiple raider NPCs you can encounter across the Boston area that will tell of various different encounters with the grenade man. You have to sneak up on them and eavesdrop though, you can't just walk up and talk to them.

In regards to the "You are a Synth" not sure why it is so low as DiMA straight up asks you if you are during the main quest of Far From Home. Not like you could miss it. Also I don't believe the SS is a Synth. The only Synth that has pre-war memories was Nick Valentine and even then his memories are very limited. No other Synths are shown to know about it, so it'd be unlikely that only the SS would be given such a specific and detailed memory.

"Potatoes both exist and don't exist." The Fallout Conundrum. Lol. Damn Tatos.

15:38 i personaly like to think potatoes whent extinct on the east coast and the west coast brotherhood just never corrected them

21:00 A counter argument to the theory: The institute doesn't actually have memory implanting technology, only the Railroad do. We know from Institute terminal entries that they don't implant memories but instead simply interrogate the original target and then instruct the replacement on the info gleamed.

Nuka-World companion Gage calls Mirelurks "Mudcrabs", an Elder Scrolls critter

Krem’s tooth, a statue of a face, and the final resting place of my first power armor frame, I hate that cave.

Perfect timing

About your little retcon rant about developers “not being expected to remember every little detail,” a loading screen in Fallout 4 literally mentions that X-01 was made by the post war government.

I wasn't looking, just listening and when you said "Pam started the war" for a second i thought of the final Pam

I do believe the vault boy thumbs up is a reference to the duck and cover videos that had a outlandish way to survive a nuclear blast.

I think the statue in Dunwitch Borers is another link to the ES world as in ESO there is a very similar statue/shine. The X0-1 retcon is better covered with 76 as team tagerty had found the X0-1 prototype plans, but no signs that they attempted to craft their own set, maybe due to lack of materials or time. So to me that would leave the only pre-war suit to be in nukaworld in 4 and perhaps because the suit had not been properly tested the BOS opted not to build the suit and or the information never got to the main channels of the BOS due to the loss of communications to them witch at this point has not been restored in 76. Great videos and content, Keep it up!

There’s an episode of Twilight Zone original series called The After Hours (Season 1, Episode 34) in which mannequins come to life. The mannequin/synth theory brings me back to this episode always

I'm still pretty salty that the "mothman" isn't actually a hybrid moth and person. But just an oversized moth.

I do buy the dogmeat being a synth theory. The way he was coded it was like you were supposed to have dogmeat as a companion as well as a human companion but it seems Bethesda cut it last minute

Imma just say that Lorenzo Cabbot's crown is Dwemer in origin, if not in fact part of the Numidium itself.

The Sole Survivor being a synth is a hill I will die on. I think it makes the story more compelling.

torn to cinders. that's a new one....I like it

The fallout universe is great and probably in my opinion one of the best and the community is great too.

23:37 "*Experimental* X-01 power armor" I believe the Enclave simply completed what was an already functional prototype design, they just brought the X-01 Armor up to their specifications

Hotel California and Dead Money connection is in my mind plausible- since Lonesome Road also has song connection and it's Obsidian (aka Black Isle remnants) and they are known for popculture references (for Pete's Sake you can find Tardis and random Elvis painting in first Fallouts)