@@june9914 which is bullshit because the courier had no idea, he was simply making a delivery. The contents for the delivery are not something he is responsible for. If anything, Ulysses caused more deaths and chaos than the courier probably ever did. Him setting his sights on the hoover Dam and reporting back to Caesar as an "object of interest" led to the first battle of hoover Dam. The entirety of honest hearts was caused by him training the white legs. They literally braid their hair just like his under the idea that caesar would personally come and meet them in person if they destroyed the other tribes along with Joshua graham. He is also responsible for feeding information to Dr klein about the world outside Big Empty which led to them becoming interested in leaving big empty. I have no idea about sierra madre but apparently he gave elijah the location of it or hinted about its existence to him or at least that what the majority of the playerbase says. Ill have to do another playthrough to confirm it.
Loansome has always been my favorite. The build up is fantastic and personally I love Ulysses. It does fill in a lot of history of the player but it was good enough of a backstory that I don't mind it. The Divide is absolutely the best part of it. Its an amazing setpiece that captures the "nuclear apocalypse" theme better than any other setpiece imo. Its super hostile, everything wants to kill you, and the environment is very dynamic.
What i really liked about Lonesome Road was the sheer amount of build up Ulysses has. You hear about him from the very start of the game in Primm. He's mentioned in every DLC, how he hunts you. But little tidbits. Then in Old War Blues he's everywhere. Mentioned constantly, tapes, his mark everywhere, and the tape that says he just gonna go to the divide and make you come to him. Then bam, the DLC Trailer drops with his voice in it, challenging you to come to him. All of it was just perfect
Honestly I genuinely believe there is no real best FNV dlc. For me, lonesome road is my favorite but I loved all of them and totally get why people love each one for different reasons
I think, in general, they've always got it right with all of the Fallout DLC. Each one offers something slightly different, whether it's just better weapons, more RPG or just new items for your settlements, there's always something that appeals to everyone.
@@unter5492 Great voice acting, funny quests, ANNOYING ASS GAMEPLAY in Old World Blues. The map is a pain to navigate and every enemy is a crazy bullet sponge. If it was just the dialogue I would enjoy it more. Thinking about it: that's kinda my opinion on all the New Vegas DLC's. Sierra Madre, especially, is so resonant for me. It's just not very fun
I like it when the high strangeness and natural weirdness of fallout is embraced so it’s old world blues lonesome road dead money and then a sizeable difference between dm and honest hearts, which feels like it could slot in a different game better
My personal list is probably 4. Dead Money (it feels so restrictive and contained to me and the pay off at the end wasn't the best imo) 3. Lonesome Road (I actually love the story and enjoy how Ulysses has a part and connection to basically all DLCs and I enjoy his goofy monologues, but there isn't much to do and it's fairly linear, which I like at points and not at others) 2. Honest Hearts (honestly really fun and Joshua Graham is sick, but the story feels like the dlc that least affects the Couriers story and feels the most disconnected of the bunch, although I see the upside in that. Overall it's just fun) 1. Old World Blues (idk what it is but the aesthetic, the hilarious Think Tank and Mobius, and gameplay elements are so fun. The weapons are cool and sciency. Which I think I'd why I enjoy it so much it's the most science fiction and that really makes it the top spot for me. Plus I love how they call pre-war the Old World idk what it is that makes me like it) Mind you both Lonesome Road and Honest Hearts could be switch it all depends on the day idk why but I have a soft spot for Lonesome Road
if you're playing on PC there's a mod that put those special enemies at the divide, it was called something among the lines of "Coronel Royez and (Legion guy) at the Divide"
extremely late to this but there is a strategy you can employ that allows you to nuke both the legion and ncr while avoiding the reputation losses with the factions. if you manage to beat lonesome road and nuke them before acquiring the platinum chip/visiting the lucky 38/visiting benny you can avoid the reputation losses because your crimes against the factions are erased after this. i’m not gonna say it’s easy to accomplish though as typically you want to be at least level 20 starting the dlc and it would be a very impressive feat to be the recommended level without having visited benny. personally, i’ve started lonesome road at level 14 and ran it through to the end on normal difficulty with a standard guns medicine built. it’s definitely not easy, the tunnelers pose a serious threat and the marked men can definitely be tricky with how often they carry high level gear like missile launchers and whatnot but nothing in this game is that difficult if you slam enough psycho, med-x, and stimpacks. another thing to note is that if you are hellbent on siding with ulysses like i am 100% of the time make sure you grab all 6 of his voice tapes because to side with him you not only need the obvious requirement of speech 100 but you also need a high reputation with ncr/legion or a serious portion of the way through the independent vegas questline. but with the 6 logs you are able to make him side with you without high rep in any faction albeit while having to choose very specific voice options so either look them up or make a quicksave.
For me: 1.Lonesome roads 2.Honest Hearts 3.Old world blues 4.Dead money. Played all of them around 10 years ago. But i finished the dead money only yesterday 😅 First time experience was pretty painful for me,but the others were awesome. Especially the lonesome roads
The way New Vegas started forshadowing Ulysses, Elijah, and the former legate/burned man Joshua... And then tying all of them together in this much greater story about Elijah and Ulysses breaking into Big Empty and going different ways, one wanting to destroy while the other wanting to rebuild is such a great story, and Joshua Graham is probably one of the greatest video game characters of all time. New Vegas has characters so good, you feel like the NPC mailman in the presence of PC's playing Vegas like its their own playground. Nothing has ever come close.
I had to literally google what Ulysses idea was to figure out what he was talking about, 9/10 DLC for me, fun gameplay, fun (and good) loot, but Ulysses made no sense to me.
Ullysses makes the most sense out of all the antagonists in the DLCs. He is just a bit cryptic. English being a second language for him is one reason why. He really explains and brings home the messages and themes of New Vegas in its entirety. Who the marked men of bear and the bull represent. How they are old world ideas doomed to repeat the same mistakes as before the war. As they don't know their history their doomed to repeat it. Both Joshua and Ulysses redeemed legion both out for revenge. Trying to make the world right in their own twisted ways. One wanted to exterminate a tribe the other wanted to destroy old world symbols before they reached their dead ends. Hoping that something new would come of it.
@@shy8054not really. Ulysses is actually just a deeply broken man who can't come to terms with the fact that he lost his home and family twice, first when the Twisted Hairs were betrayed by the Legion and second when Hopeville was destroyed. He wraps it all up in deep philosophical and ideological prose, but that's the true Ulysses. He blames the Courier as a coping mechanism despite the fact that it's not really the Courier's fault.
@@GeraltofRivia22 it doesnt feel like they were trying to write him as a man too broken to realize that it wasn't the couriers fault. It just feels like terrible writing. Him being part of the legion as a mass murderer makes his point of "affected deeply by the deaths of the divide" very redundant. If anything, Ulysses caused more deaths and chaos than the courier probably ever did. Him setting his sights on the hoover Dam and reporting back to Caesar as an "object of interest" led to the first battle of hoover Dam. The entirety of honest hearts was caused by him training the white legs. They literally braid their hair just like his under the idea that caesar would personally come and meet them in person if they destroyed the other tribes along with Joshua graham. He is also responsible for feeding information to Dr klein about the world outside Big Empty which led to them becoming interested in leaving big empty. I have no idea about sierra madre but apparently he gave elijah the location of it or hinted about its existence to him.
@@GeraltofRivia22 apparently ive been told, that Ulysses was meant to be a companion to the courier. I wholeheartedly believe if obsidian had enough time and were sufficiently staffed, these issues wouldnt have happened.
Nice job continuing the series. You did a pretty solid job here, but part one your voice seemed a bit more smooth and had better balance. Not sure if you did something different in the edits between that one and some of your others but that would be some constructive advice I'd give ya. See if you can get it to be the same as the first Fallout NV video about the weapon packs. You do that, and keep the grind on, you'll nail this RU-vid thing.
That’s what always made the most sense never has a game had the dlcs take place before you beat the main game. You play the game then you get dead money and go play that then honest hearts and you go play that then old world blues and you go play that and then lonesome road comes out last to that’s the last one In the timeline
@@shreddiestreams yes. Not only does it eradicate all burned man speculation from the base game. But it has 1911 making it super based and really awesome. On a real note I like how non linear it is. There are so many ways to end it. You can show up kill everyone and leave and it still counts at beating it. You can help the good guys and eradicate the bad guys or you can not eradicate the bad guys or both. The amount of choice coupled with the fact that it illustrates the most interesting and unexplained thing in the base game.
@@behindthebruins5119 Thank you for the quick reply. I'm replaying the game for my girlfriend on Hardcore as a Machiavellian Courier with Multiple Personality Disorder caused by the gunshot to his head. It's a Yes Man playthrough. She's really into Fallout 4 and I'm trying to show her just how much agency and impact you can have on the world of New Vegas. We both got sucked in and now we're 50 hours in lol. Treating it like a TV show so I'm structuring the stories and quests to be linear like a story, as opposed to just taking every quest possible. Anyway, that's all nonsense stuff. Thanks for your help!
@@shreddiestreams well if you wanted to tell me more about this whole split personality thing I could most definitely tell you how to tackle honest hearts
For me lonesome road was the best. When the dlcs were being released I played the hell out of new Vegas. It wasn’t until old world blues that I realized all the dlcs were just us following along Ulysses trail and then lonesome road released. I mean, it’s friggin awesome. A man you’ve been trailing this whole time suddenly goads you into following him into the divide, a place where your past sins are laid bare before you. Going through that hellish landscape and barely scraping by on some fights (rawr was always terrifying fight in survival, even to this day). Meeting Ulysses’s after running him down in the divide, and using the nuke at the end. It was a perfect ending to a legendary game.
I partly agree. It was a very unnecessary DLC however it provides almost like a new breath of air to the wasteland. I think it was the final DLC for a reason and that reason is simply that not every player wants it or likes it. The DLC specifically showed more of a wastelandish feel and I kinda of wish there was a game where they copied this style but like I said it provides an unneeded explanation. If they had just followed a basic premise of like you having to nuke the reserve force of one or both of the armies it would be an amazing DLC. And finally yes, challenging but fair is exactly how I would describe it. I loved it for that aspect. There are much more difficult enemies but at the same time there is better armor and weapon introduced in the DLC.
I think I can say that I agree with all of that. also the storytelling is pretty vague, and more than any other emotion I was kind of just overwhelmed with confusion throughout the whole thing anthropomorphizing ed-e so much was also kind of weird ulysses is a cool character though
Yeah Ulysses as a character is super cool I wish they hadn't given him such a throwaway sort of position in the game despite him being so connected to the lore. Like the tribe of the twisted hairs, it would have been nice to give him a location or connection to the game outside of the DLC
I played the lonesome road dlc first and then went to play the honest hearts dlc. And after seeing how challenging the lonesome road dlc was I went around and dropped around 10k caps on ammo and stimpaks just to find out that it was pretty easy
I liked Honest Hearts, Lonesome Road and Old World Blues, they have small connections to each other and add more to the story. And not knowing who your character truly is in games can always be a problem but New Vegas solves this by shooting you in the head twice so you’re a clean slate.
I think it could've been better but it was fun and it serves as a nice challenge for when you get to level 30+. I never liked Ulysses though, he sounds like a reddit user who hates the world so he wants to destroy it
I mean it doesn't provide that much or a backstory for your character. You are still just a courier you delivered a package and moved on, it's as much of a story as your character is the guy who delivered the platinum chip or tried anyways.
Loved Ed-e. And ulysses pissed me off. All his tricks and games, all his stupidity earned him an explosive .50 mg sneak bullet to the back of the head cuz i couldn't pass the speech check
Lonesome roads is fun to play as long as you have good weapons I found it very entertaining I’ve played lonesome roads more then I have any other doc for fallout new Vegas.
1. Old World Blues 2. Dead Money 3. Lonesome Road 4. Honest Hearts Old World Blues (really cool shit from the dlc and its fun in general) Dead Money (story is the best in any modern day-like rpg game ive seen. deserves its own backstory cutscene/movie) Lonesome Road (provides backstory and elite riot gear is nice but still not as good as the other 2) Honest Hearts (great gear to start with, late game its eh. doesnt really attribute much other than being able to find this “malpais legate” that was talked about. gives birth to chadua graham.)
My ranking as well. I enjoyed Honest Hearts because of Joshua, Survivalist story, beautiful region and tribes which are interesting for apocaliptic setting -but its definitely the weakest dlc, its too short and the plot is nothing special
I think all that "Bear, Bull" business from Ulysses is supposed to get annoying. Think about it, within the Mojave, its mostly all you hear about. NCR this, Legion that, nuclear winter here, profligate on a cross there. I believe that Ulysses is mocking them the entire time. Sure, it's a little repetitive, but think about how repetitive this circle the NCR and Legion have been in is. It's like he's giving you that "Insanity" speech that Vaas gave in FC3, but over a longer period of time, letting the physical examples within the Divide highlight his words.
You are actually wrong about lonesome road not having being heavy on rpg the whole dlc is based on choices you make up to starting it and the speech checks and responses are based on that and the entire ending is one big choice that adversely affects the rest of the game where as honest hearts doesn’t nor dead money but strangely enough old world blues does and I am not going to explain exactly how I will leave it up to to figure it out and yes I do know
You did nuke it though, not knowing you did it doesn't change the fact that your character did it and now lives guilt free of the lives destroyed Ulysses wants you to understand that every action or inaction completed by c7(you) has dire consequences, consequences the character never has to truly face or atone for Ulysses was your punishment, not the nukes The nukes were merely a lesson that your actions have extreme consequence
I would literally never touch lonesome road if it wasn't it being absolutely broken and offering god tier loot at level 1. LR gives the player access to an extremely good vendor with a 100 repair as soon as you enter and literally the only thing you have to fight on the way is a coyote. The arc welders are also stupid valuable and a solid snag for an energy build and they're littered around the area that requires zero combat. It's the absolute biggest mistake ever added to new Vegas. Exclusively because it lets you leave at will. You can walk in, punt the difficulty down to easy and get a ton of food, water, healing supplies, the pretty solid marked armour, missiles, fuck tons of ammo and weapons like the brush gun, sniper rifle, arc welder and the excellent knife and then leave making all of new Vegas a joke lamfo
I don't think it's a bad thing unless you don't have any self control and exploit it to the extent of ruining your game. First few times I played through lonesome road at the correct level towards the end of the game, now I play it early whenever I make a new character because I enjoy that gear and I don't want to wait for it, I still make sure there's a challenge but it's exactly where I want it
@@PolishGod1234 I think lonesome road Loot beets dead money, they're all amazing in my opinion though, I didn't really like the gear out of dead money but the story was really cool
@@demented12311 I agree with LR having better loot when It comes to weapons, but If you manage to steal all Gold bars you will have over 3 hundred thousand caps -and that is A LOT.
