Falsobordone, the Miserere of Allegri, and a most bizarre musicological error 

Alejandro M. He was great hey

Incredible, indeed!

Indeed.

Agreed!

That was breathtaking! (For him especially...:)

Soprano C, we like to keep it on a high note.

It's probably the most beautiful mistake of any kind , ever 😊

Can't agree with you more!

I couldn't agree more. It moves me beyond words and is what makes this piece so beautiful for me.

@@user_g41b4t91yy do you mean couldn't agree more? If you can't agree more it means you're in disagreement with the statement.i'm not being a grammar nazi, I have autism and I'm genuinely interested in your point of view.

I agree 100%. I should try my hand at writing my own generic falsobordone (which will be crappy), and add it to the generic falsobordone beautifully written by Dr. Rotem. In the future, both versions will be performed as a single and favored generic falsobordone ever written, and only someone smart will be able to decipher the one not original to Dr. Rotem.

@@Tubomiro Just shift it up by a third. It seems to work.

Came here to say the exact same thing. I've even revisited this video a few times specifically to hear it again.

4:30

Pure Thomas Tallis... gave me shivers all right.

Elam is a fantastically gifted man and communicates it all so humbly.

Show your support!! 🌺😊

And who will write down some embellishments to be inserted in the wrong key? ;-)

I much rather listen to his magnificent counterpoint on Hebrew texts.

Or, if an authentic « early » prelate, drive him away as a non christian and burn his books…

Dr.* Rotem

Here are some more RU-vid videos in which Jacob Lawrence is singing: ru-vid.com?search_query="jacob+lawrence"+tenor Be sure to listen to the two from the 2020 Bovicelli Competition (which he won).

Same, I thought it was a brilliant early flat II. That was a beautiful mistake, though.

And an accidental remix at that.

@BVale Asserting with confidence that Bach did not compose the most famous toccata attributed to him is nothing but people being overly eager to show "secret knowledge" that the vast majority of people don't know, making them sound smart and knowledgeable. On the other hand, asserting with confidence the converse is not proper either. As far as I understand, there's no absolute certainty among historians and musicologists whether it was indeed composed by Bach, or just attributed to him later (something that has demonstrably happened with other pieces of music many, many times, with many composers). It's in essence no different from attributing a saying to the wrong person, or in the modern world attributing photographs and videos to the wrong event and place (it may be a genuine mistake, or a deliberate attempt at deception, but the end result is that millions of people believe the wrong thing.) Some doubt has been cast onto the authorship of the piece because it cannot be established with absolute certainty, and the style doesn't seem to mach any of the other Bach's compositions. It would be strange that he would compose one single piece using this particular style, and no others. On the other hand, it cannot be stated with certainty that he did not compose it, either.

@@WarpRulez Maybe the first, certainly not the last ;)

A "stroke of genius" is actually a mistake. Reminds me of that maxim: if something is too good to be true, it's probably not true.

"Here in the Netherlands" - not in the Duomo di Monreale? That would be wonderful (and I wonder how it would sound - I'd come to listen, even if it's 2000 miles away).

@@dlevi67 since his name is Monrealese...

@@patriksabo1141 Precisely the reason for my comment.

My mother comes from Monreale but is living in the Netherlands for almost 50 years now. I have a deep connection with the place, trying to go on a regular basis. I even had the opportunity to play the organ in the Duomo some years ago (it has 6! manuals)

@@Monrealese Lucky you! Enjoy, and keep making good music, no matter where!

Probably one of the most beautiful vocal pieces i've heard too.

The video creator doesn't seem to agree that it was great, but many people here (including me) liked it a lot.

What is most interesting about it is the fact that the soloist sounds almost like a hazzan (Jewish cantor).

In the footnote page I included some links to performances. You might refer to this recording by The Choir of King's College / David Willcocks (1963) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-piPiVndX7kw.html

@@EarlyMusicSources You know, that might be the recording I had heard so many times. What I had not noticed, if this is the one, is that it was sung in English; had never noticed that before. The version sung by Pro Cantione Antiqua is extraordinarily beautiful. I might be wrong but it seems to me that poor Allegri created such a phenomenal piece of music that the result over the centuries is that it alone eclipsed all the rest of his output. That's an injustice to his art but it just happened that way, I suppose.

@@fredhoupt4078 Pachelbel and Canon in D, even worse... The Mozart story is almost certainly made up - at least according to modern biographies of Mozart.

@@dlevi67 unsure about your Pachelbel comment.

@@fredhoupt4078 you said: "poor Allegri created such a phenomenal piece of music that the result over the centuries is that it alone eclipsed all the rest of his output." I said: "Pachelbel and Canon in D, even worse..." Does this explain what I meant?