Famous Guitarists On Randy Rhoads 

lots of Eddy playing in RR , BUT you are right Randy had more to draw on. 2 of the best in metal.

the riffs of playing the bottom of the chords on the D an G strings is pure Eddy, but I will say Eddy was mistaken to say Randy was not doing anything Eddy had not done, there was more classical guitar, more complex solo melody's, we can all hear that. two of the best I say for that type of Rock.

@@rogerdat7807 Randy plays staccato as far back as 1975 live with Quiet Riot at La Valley College. Ozzys band was not his start as you know.

@@rogerdat7807 I think Blackmore got that from. John lord key boards,, he was the first I heard. ten yours after Alvin Lee could do that also, but he stuck to the blues scale for leads

Why did Eddie have to attend every quiet riot show it’s not because he liked the band he like the guitar player install as much as he could from Randy Rhodes Randy Rhodes didn’t even care about Eddie Van Halen he only cares about himself and his own musical journey so shut the fuck up OK leave Randy alone he never bothered anybody and now everybody’s bothering him

Eddie was drunk.

Randy wanted to play guitar more then anything else. He would go find country bars to go sit in & play guitar while on tour with Ozzy. He seemed very humble & down to earth.

@@thenashvillemasterclass5639Exactly

@@mikeys7536 but still- randy never did right handed hammer-ons until Eddie. Nobody did. To say randy didn’t take anything from Eddie is asinine, I don’t care what. But it’s not like randy couldn’t play until he heard Eddie. And talking about Eddie going to see randy- he took nothing randy did. Eddie was an innovator, randy was a classical guitarist. Eddie just shouldn’t have said anything like that. Completely unnecessary and mean spirited

Eddie was a huge talent, but I remember the crap talking he did back in the day. It reminded me of high school BS that the kid that had a story about everything would come up with. The kid that sometimes had an iffy relationship with the truth. Some of the things he said after Roth, Haggar and Anthony quit or left the band had a... tenuous relationship with the truth. Just like the kid in school, he wanted people to like/accept him and was willing to stretch the truth a bit to take his side instead of the other guy. What I hear in this clip of Eddie is someone that is worried about his legacy (even though he recieved tons of accolades). I think he heard in Rhodes' playing something that he felt threatened by. Both had a lot of passion in their work that showed through and he didn't use tapping as much as Eddie did. It was said that Eddie used to turn his back on the audience during solos so they wouldn't seewhat he was doing. Flamenco guitar used hammering and pull offs frequently. I remember my guitar teacher made it a point to let us know it had been done long before VaHalen. Maybe Eddie, knowing where he got the technique, felt it was a trick and even saw a spark in Randy's playing he wished he had. Maybe even after all the years of praise, he didn't think he truly deserved the compliments he got - imposter syndrome. I don't say that to belittle Eddie. He will always be considered one of the guitar greats. I just wonder, (beyond his bravado or arrogance, if you want to put it that way) if he truly, deep down to his core, felt that he actually deserved it. That has nothing to do with his talent or his innovation, but his self image. Think about it, what was the first thing that he asked his interviewer, (someone that had just finished stroking his ego) He asked him, "What do you think?" He's testing the waters because he's on a phone interview and can't see the guy's facial expressions when he says it. What is the guy going to say if he disagrees with Eddie? His "Uh-huh" was pretty noncommital. Ed then immediately changes the subject to the crash and the guy comes back with, Randy being "the first guy after you to inspire that sort of worshipping." Eddie responds with "I don't really think he did anything that I haven't done." A little less confrontational than his original claim that he stole from me, since the guy's, "uh-huh" didn't agree or disagree with him - just in case. I wonder what the interviewer was thinking right then, about his next question or the answer he just heard. Another thing about Eddie's comments that struck me is that most people don't speak ill of the dead and yet he says Randy was really good, but only because he coppied Eddie and of course that is what made him sound good. This is a backhanded compliment for sure. It's hard to tell if he can't let himself say something nice after all those years without qualifying the context of how someone should perceive it or not. I have to say, I never heard Randy's playing and thought it sounded anything like Eddie's. Even when Randy played old Sabbath, he didn't sound like Tony Iommi, he had his own sound which didn't sound like Eddie playing Black Sabbath. It was Randy's own unique sound that came through. I don't question Eddie's talent or his influence. I remember something Sammy Haggar said after Eddie said he didn't listen to anyone else's music anymore. Sammy said something like, "Have you ever heard of this band? No? Well you just ripped them off!" Everything that is heard has the potential to influence someone, but that doesn't constitute the theft that Eddie suggests. Even if he really felt Randy stole his technique, I wish Eddie had at least said something like, Randy was great and left his mark on music. Some have told me they hear similarities in our sound, but maybe that is just because we both played rock music. I guess I just wish an extremely talented guy could have been... classier about it. Maybe he was just drunk and he couldn't help it. 😕

So true. Randy was on another level

RR may have copied EVH's technique. But I never heard an EVH solo that matches Flying High Again. Fact is, he surpassed EVH.

He employed the same 3 note chord tapping Eddie did in eruption on parts of that solo , I wouldn't say Randy surpassed Eddie , I would say Randy's playing was more sophisticated. Eddie went the trick bag rout but, his picking hand was still world class and as good as anybody's in any style of music , his vocabulary was limited by choice .

@@kennopalus Great response. But I have to say, it proves my point.

@@Taylor.Dude. I always thought " Push Comes To Shove was his most melodic solo .

Amen!

Fuckn A Yes!

can u share the clip or link pls

It is in the video, you can watch and make a clip yourself.

Facts!!

Ya in America, RR was awesome, now go to Paco De Lucía vids and watch his playing, even Steve Vai is a big fan. Paco was insane great!

all we had was his demos, first 2 ozzy stuff and his quiet riot material to go off of.

@@m42037 Paco's probably the greatest flamenco player ever. Randy was completely different so there's no point in comparing.

Rhoad’s solos are perfect not a note can be changed. It’s mind blowing too think what Randy would’ve achieved!

@@m42037 Why would you bring up Paco ? Totally different style of music .

And still is. It is an epic composition

Yep, tops eruption in my book

@Tim Whitten I don't know. Almost feels like it's "apples and oranges".

@@cableguyxx It's timeless. Even the filler songs on that album are great.

@@FortessofShred it is, but EVH along with Moore thinking they are king shit pisses me off. Randy has style and class much like Dime, down to earth God rest both of their souls

he was an all time great

Randy was better than EVH.

@@shawng149 no lies detected

@@shawng149 Randy was not even in the same league as Eddie as an innovator and Riff Monster.

That’s great you saw his last performance.

@@michaeldiamond76 what?

@@michaeldiamond76 yeah right. Why go thru all the trouble of faking 3 deaths and disrupting a major tour when he couldve just said "I quit"??? Not to mention it's illegal to report 3 deaths without producing 3 corpses...they actually INVESTIGATE plane crashes and fatal accidents!! The authorities ARE NOT going to play along with some kind of "I'm faking my death to avoid fame" scheme! That's as ridiculous as the people that think Paul McCartney died in 1966. The "Randi Rhodes" political commentator you're referring to is NOT the same person who played guitar for Ozzy!

VERY fortunate to seen that, indeed 🤘🔥🤘

Saw him at the Los Angeles Sports Arena 12.31.81.

What’s your appraisal of Randy’s work compared to Eddie’s? I don’t really think it’s a fair comparison, given Randy died so suddenly.

Eddie obviously exaggerated this statement. But it might be true that RR learned his chops copying on Eddie and building upon it. Like every guitarist copies his guitar heroes.

@@johanndaart7326 Nothing wrong with being influenced by your contemporaries.

@@beatlecristian Agreed :)

Eddie's said EVERYONE stole his licks..he said the same about Tom Scholtz ..from Biston

he was a sponge trying to learn everything he could and yes he would take lessons in each city during the tour. randy is certainly one of the best and that is based on two albums imagine if he had lived

@@markdonnelly6921 If Unique means he sounded like Eddie Van Halen then yeah he was unique.

​@@rickrecco143 nah, Randy was his own man. He clearly didn't sound like Eddie. Two majorly different players by far

LMAO!

@@rickrecco143 like I said, EVH couldn’t even read music so bullshit

@@rickrecco143 He sounded like Randy.

He was killing it on that Axe for sure! Yeah it would have been quite the spectacle to see them shredding alongside each other. It's A thrill anyway to see Dave Murray and Adrian Smith still being the dualists on guitar in Iron Maiden. Oh Sharon doesn't like Bruce Dickinson much though. Had something to do with playing in Ozz Fest. Never saw Ozzy in concert.

Dude was 16 yrs old there.

Truly insane. Miss Dime so damn much. He was and is such and huge inspiration. Would have been awesome to hear them jam together. No doubt.

And yet I don't think his renditions are nowhere near as good as Randy Rhoads - his style is very different, and more about playing the notes with a load of noise, and less about feeling I'm sure it's a genre thing

@@PaulC39 Sharon is a greedy bitch

Hendrix was way over rated he was not in the same league then Randy ! by the way i have been playing and teaching guitar for 40 years .

Randy might have more basic technically skill. Randy had not yet developed the musical ability that Jimi developed on the chitlin circuit. Randy was fucking headed there, though.

Omg hendrix is so fking overrated

Listen to what Kirk Hammett said specifically about Diary when he was asked if there was one song he wished he'd composed...

@@Mike-eq4ky wishful thinking from him more like. Never in a month of Sunday's could he ever write as tasteful as Randy.

The saying goes, "great artists steal": listen to Leo Brouwer's Study No. 6.

It was actually Ozzy who insisted on using the etudes as Randy was practicing those at the time. He may have used them as influence but he improved the small part that he used and the rest of the song is all his work and phenomenal

Van Halen songs sound like they’re written by a 6th grader.

Good thing, too, because the lyrics were written by Bob Daisley... even Randy laughed at his poor attempt at writing lyrics. But his music was masterful, along with its execution. Beautiful, moving, powerful, emotive beyond most others. A truly masterful composer.

It did nothing to help his abilities. He was going to leave Ozzy because it wasn't challenging for him.

Diary of a Madman was a well thought out song also.

I would have to say lyricist also.

@@richardjohnson4373 Actually, no. Bob Daisley was Randy's best lyricist. Ozzy barely wrote lyrics.

@@Red-mp3to Some days Ozzy barely speaks English

@@wirelessone2986 Neither would you if you'd lived the life he has. Why do you feel the need to mock a frail old man?

Ozzy wasn't a frail old man in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. He was just too wacky the whole time

I feel your pain my friend . I had tickets to see Randy with Ozzy at the Florida World Music Festival there at the Tangerine bowl Stadium in Orlando and was on my way back from staying the night in Cocoa Beach when I heard on the radio about the crash just up the road from Orlando in Leesburg and can remember feeling so sad and disappointed . and I still went to the show even though Ozzy had to cancel . Pat Travers was living in Orlando at this time and Volunteered to replace Ozzy on the bill without any prior notice just hours before the time he had to go on stage . Which was a really stand up thing for Pat to do . He killed it that evening playing to like 70.000 fans and actually blew away the top headline act of the show Foreigner . but there was just a eery vibe from everyone and I was so bummed out it was like I lost a close family member. I had seen Randy on the Blizzard tour like 6 or 7 months prior to this show and was really really looking forward in seeing Randy live again . He had the strongest stage presence of any musician I have ever seen

Exactly well said randy was already bringing the heat on eddie

Agreed...Eddie NEVER could get over the fact that Rhoads helped pioneer American HEAVY METAL....EVH wasn't content enough being known as a guitar "God" and havin his own Good Time "HARD Rock band ", evidently.......SMH

No, he wouldn’t have. He would go down like most heavy metal guitarists, great but part of an entire genre.

@@Bellabaddi - Randy was already looking for a way out of Ozzy's band before his passing. He wanted to play more classical music. No way would have he been typecast as solely a "metal" guitarist

I agree. While I'll be quick to admit EVH has had a much bigger influence on guitar players in general, I've always liked Randy's playing more.

Completely agree, although I often wonder if perhaps Gary Moore thinks a little too highly of himself relative to other great players. But all due respect aside, Eddie was undoubtedly the first to arrive at a new pinnacle after literally Erupting onto the scene in '78. While Randy certainly incorporated some EVH into his technique, his artistry was completely unique and compositionally far and away beyond everyone at the time. Randy's musical influences extended well beyond Eddie as Kirk so wonderfully noted. I loved that omage he paid to him, what a great piece of perspective. There's actually some insightful commentary from George Lynch on this... Eddie got there first as others were evolving. One of my biggest questions, knowing that Randy was so incredibly focused on continual Improvement, was what would have happened had he been exposed to the next generation of incredible players, everybody from eclectic players like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani, shredders like Marty Friedman with his insane scales to Dimebag Darrell - how do you categorize him? - and all the Next Generation neoclassical players like Yngwie Malmsteen. If he had been alive to incorporate those lessons into his playing along with his compositional genius and his classical influence you never know what new music we could have been listening to right now... I just hope he's up there somewhere making that incredible music, playing with all the Masters passed and that I may someday be privileged to hear it...

@@shakebabyhitler I completely agree, but I think that a large part of that was that he was the first to achieve that level of greatness and then had 40 years to continue to build and grow that legend, that's not something that Randy was able to enjoy hence his influence was definitely outshined by Eddie's but that does not diminish him in any way whatsoever

@@Mike-eq4ky For sure. We'd all be having a different conversation if Randy had continued putting out music for another 40 years. In fact, had Gene Simmons decided he liked The Boyz rather than Van Halen, George Lynch could have been the "game changer". Or what if Sony had decided to release Quiet Riot's albums in North America rather than only in Japan? It was all a race to see who would be brought to public attention first. Honestly, I don't think QR's early material was strong enough to put them on the map, but we would have all heard of Randy before we heard of Eddie.

EVH seems to have been swallowed up by his ego in this interview. I've listened to Randy Countless times since 1981 Not once has anything I've heard him play reminded me of EVH.

exactly...you "get" it...most people dont understand that part...

Dimebag Darold was also good, but never got too famous.

@@randallrhoads3271 People also don't get the difference between creating it and copying it.

Pantera’s bassist Rex Brown said that Blizzard Of Ozz was a huge inspiration on Dime. Apparently Dimebag practically locked himself in his room for an entire month with that album until he learned every riff, lick and solo. When he finally came back out, he was a totally different guitar player. Dimebag always said in interviews that Randy was one of his top 3 favorite guitar players.

great descriptions. it's all there and more. RR

I think he'd served Ozzie notice that he was quitting the band to work on his classical playing. He was like a Shaolin monk of the guitar!!!

Agreed 100000%

That's for sure. All geniuses going in different directions. Can you imagine the G3 tour with these guys rotating in?! Heaven.

Never heard nothing bad about Randy, everybody has something to say about Eddie, and not nice

Dime was such a sick monster then. Always was though

Yeah that was sick. Dimebag had that same juice randy did. A virtuoso at a young age.

YES! Was not expecting to see Dime playing RR in this Vid. Sick. This made my Saturday morning. 🤘😤🤘

Love the Vito Bratta reference! He's still among my favorites. I love melodic guitar players and Vito and Randy are/were just that. But Randy is, by far, my all time favorite.

Dime's earlier Tribute video STILL, has/had ta be one of the BEST sounding one I have heard though EVEN compared to Zack n others "own styles" blended IN (so ta speak). But YES, you are correct...Rhoads made the guitar SING!!! 🤘🔥🤘

I agree. I'm supersized that Eddie couldn't see that side of Randy. All I could here from Eddie is he didn't do anything that I didn't do. Randy did a lot that Eddie didn't do.

Definitely more structured and more coordinated and creative than EVH. Beats any EVH solos. Panama is my favorite EVH solo and its not even close to Randy's top 8.

@@davesaenz3732 I give Eddie a lot credit for his tone. That set him apart more than the tapping. After the debut VH album, everyone was tapping.

Too bad Dimebag Darold didn't get more famous. He can play.

Agree and was really turned off by Eddie's need to pay himself on the back. The whole world was patting him on the back that's what happens when your iconic, no need to toot your own horn at that level of greatness

And what type of dope you smoking to say Ed had no soul and is outdated , apparently you have no knowledge of guitar 🎸

You obviously don't play guitar. It's actually quite the opposite. Eddie was pure soul and feeling and an infinitely better and more complicated rhythm player

@Darren Jones I play guitar. That has nothing to do with an opinion though. Givin Eddie was faster, and more technical player. What I'm saying is that EVH as a whole band sounds outdated now, while blizzard of Oz and diary of a madman you can still listen to today and it sounds good

You gotta put on the song Amsterdam and crank that MF to 10! Eddie's riffs and rhythm playing have always been his strong suits. His solos are nothing to turn your nose up at but his fire lies in other areas!

Randy's music was better. Period.

And he was barely fucking 18 in that clip.

that is one theory per Rudy for sure and no issue with that narrative

I've never heard this.

Sure there's the odd tapping lick here and there, but most of Randy's solos remind me of Jimmy Page more than EVH.

just goes to show was an egomanic Eddie was back then. I don't recall him ever having anything nice to say about any other player back in the day. He obviously mellowed some with age, but back then he all about himself.

Eddie was kind of a dick talking about Randy I think Eddie was jealous cause Randy would have been better had he lived

@@AlexRodriguez-hl1vuwhat he did in basically 2 years... Is kind of like what Hendrix did. Was here for a moment, and influenced SO many. But hey... Eddie did that too when he first started. First year out and he influenced generations. Neither of them were slouches. I enjoy them both. I can only imagine where Randy would have gone today... How many places, how many genres? Where would he be at? Would he have gotten heavier...? Darker? Or became a classical guru? Would he have started his own band? Hmmmmmm

I don’t think he was coping evh randy was just a great guitar player period Eddie was probably worried about Randy and I love Eddie

he sounds nothing like anyone else.

smart to learn the songs as the master wrote them

Brad Gills did a great job, considering the short time he had to whip up a solution for the masters work. RANDY RHOADS

@@ericsivilla4091 absolutely did an A league job

Randy's background came through he was more educated in theory and understanding guitar than Ed. Both great players, but music was like math to Randy and he would solve the equations. Randy was more naturally melodic.

Yeah, Eddie kept turning the conversation back to himself. Not the first time. Him and Jimmy Paige had an incident also.

Randy was more melodic and always seemed to play the perfect sequence of notes

Ozzy didn't contribute much to the writing on those first two albums. They were written primarily by Lee Kerslake, Bob Daisley and Rhoads.

Chemistry is real.

It was the fact that he was paired up with Daisley and Kerslake. Who were seasoned veterans. They helped Randy elevate his game

@@HeavyJ713 absolutely that's a very good point " those guys were seasoned pros and randy's rythm section " and I'm sure they helped put him at ease" and musically they would open doors for randy to explore " like I said randy was a very good guitarist in "Quiet riot" but dam his playing level and creativity was like day and night on the ozzy records"" sorry to keep blabin" Brad Gillis a pretty good guitarist in his own right" when he stepped in for randy that was very amazing to pull that off" theres some footage of him doing his solo work on the ozzy tour" and that's something thats a must see" but I've never heard him ever sound that amazing again " kinda the same thing with Jake e lee ,"bark at the moon" ect

@@HeavyJ713 I read Daisley's book, 'For Facts Sake', he couldn't say enough good things about Rhoads.

It's even crazier to think that Randy has dead nearly twice as long as he lived for. And we still remember him. That is some wonderful legacy to aspire to...

He doesn’t sound anything like Eddie, Eddie just didn’t like having competition obviously which he hadn’t had until Randy starting getting attention.

@Joe Lasky, he has always came across as pompous. With that said, i really don't believe he meant any ill intent. It's just how he comes across.

Randy sounded nothing like Eddie.

@@thorpenator9148 yes he did! Take away the Les Paul and signal path and the scales they ran were practically identical! Even the way the pick attack was applied. Randy was smoother, Eddie more aggressive. Both are great things.....

@@barrymiller2272 Randy was playing harmonic minor scales...and studying classical guitar. Their styles were very different. Not sure why EVH said he copied him.

do not put Yngwie in a sentence with Randy, Randy was a better songwriter and did not recycle the same riff to play solos on Randy was the game changer, Yngwie really brought nothing new except blazing speed.

all time A leaguer