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0:00 - Opening
0:33 - Intro
1:59 - Act 1
9:46 - Act 2
10:53 - Sigh... I Talk About The Joker
11:54 - Act 2 (cont)
15:36 - Act 3
24:29 - Conclusion
25:43 - Riddler's Outro
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@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Has anyone ever noticed that Troy kinda looks like the Riddler?
@smack9195
@smack9195 2 года назад
I thought you were him
@On1yGreen
@On1yGreen 2 года назад
you mean it wasn't him?!
@nikcantsnipe
@nikcantsnipe 2 года назад
What do you mean? I thought it was him the whole time?
@antanaslinkevicius2934
@antanaslinkevicius2934 2 года назад
Wait what
@michaellucejr.6374
@michaellucejr.6374 2 года назад
Heart Of The Batman sounds like a good title for a Mr Freeze centric movie, same goes for Night Of The Batman for Man Bat.
@FloralHaze
@FloralHaze Год назад
The idea that the iconic gothic art deco blimps are adapted as the richest elite escaping the city, and at the end of the movie it’s revealed that it’s the court of owls who’re up there in the blimps is genius 🤯
@DiegoReviews
@DiegoReviews 2 года назад
If you need an alternate title for ‘Silence of The Batman’ I recommend ‘The Batman Shuts the Fuck Up.’ I love this pitch, Troy! I’d love to see Killer Croc make an appearance as a minor villain.
@Leaferton
@Leaferton Год назад
i was just thinking that, like what if killer croc jumps batman in a scene where batman is chasing the main villain in a sewer, and ends up having to run for his life from killer croc
@TanmanC
@TanmanC 2 года назад
One thing I love about Paul Dano’s Riddler is how he does like just crazy stuff randomly. It really adds to his insanity, so I think in your version what would be cool is when Batman talks to the Riddler, he starts like doing random stuff doing it like singing or whatever, I just like that trait of his, made him really crazy
@Squishy_Seal
@Squishy_Seal 2 года назад
I hope they ll include him in the two next installements, I love Dano's riddler so much !!
@sammlysam8978
@sammlysam8978 2 года назад
*AAUU VEE MAUREEEE YA AUUHHH EUAEOUEAAHH*
@CrazyTom736
@CrazyTom736 2 года назад
It also just kinda brings some of that classic comic book Riddler in even with this incarnation's gritty realism. Like I unironically loved the NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO scene because that's Riddler, he breaks down when things don't go according to plan! That's what he does!
@Squishy_Seal
@Squishy_Seal 2 года назад
@@CrazyTom736 same !! This scene was so great, it really showed Eddies temper tantrums and narcissism we know from the comics and games (...sigh Arkham Knight), but also his mentally damaged side. Great interpretation in my opinion.
@jens033
@jens033 2 года назад
Imo that's a recipe for a poorly written villain. You could replace them with a freak weather event and the story wouldn't change at all. They need to have beliefs, and these beliefs should be shown through their actions, and these actions should challenge the beliefs of the hero in same way. Having a villain that does crazy shit because "I'm so chaotic and quirky lol" leads to a meaningless and forgettable story. But that's just my two cents.
@bigblueboyscout4795
@bigblueboyscout4795 2 года назад
The Batman is easily my favorite live action Batman film. That being said, I really, really hope they don’t shy away from the comic booky stuff in the sequels. The Nolan movies really burned me out on the idea of “what if Batman existed in the real world?” I want Poison Ivy to have plant powers, I want Clayface to be a man made of clay. I don’t need a big interconnected DC universe to spin out of this, but I would like for this to be a world where Superman and the Justice League could exist. I think the Arkham games are a good template for telling grounded, character-driven Batman stories without doing away with the more fantastical elements of the character. Oh, and I want Batman to sword fight Ra’s Al Ghul in the desert while shirtless but keeping his cowl on. That’s Batman.
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Completely agree. I think showing the world grow into that crazy stuff would he really interesting.
@dimitrescu182
@dimitrescu182 2 года назад
Yeah it would be cool to see Battinson slowly transition from dealing with more realistic villains like Riddler to weirder stuff like Poison Ivy and Clayface.
@TitleInProgress
@TitleInProgress 2 года назад
@@dimitrescu182 like throughout each installment make the movies just slightly more and more comic book-y so that when they introduce characters like Clayface the audience can just accept it!
@spider-man6932
@spider-man6932 2 года назад
The Arkham and Telltale stories are my favorite
@galactic85
@galactic85 2 года назад
Completely agreed. I want to see all of that as well.
@pokemario112
@pokemario112 2 года назад
As a kid I was lonely, nobody at school wanted to talk to me because of several reasons but I found Batman and he showed me that I could be kind in a world that was cruel and that sometimes being a light in darkness is okay. I loved Reeves' Batman because it finally showed the Batman that I saw in those books as a kid. Bruce Wayne is troubled but at the end of the day his mission is to make sure to save Gotham and I love Reeves' Batman. I loved the prewrite Troy it sounds like such a fun idea.
@drtinyoureye9187
@drtinyoureye9187 2 года назад
Its great how characters can do that for us
@LuffyBlack
@LuffyBlack 2 года назад
Given how toxic comic book fans are, I am always glad to see someone found something positive in these books. That's what we're supposed to draw from them
@sukka4pain
@sukka4pain 2 года назад
That's awesome to hear. Just know you're not alone in this.
@erikgain1294
@erikgain1294 2 года назад
@@LuffyBlack fr most comic book fans are horrible.
@michaeljosephjackson2364
@michaeljosephjackson2364 Год назад
For me it was spiderman that helped me go through school bullying
@andrewdel4055
@andrewdel4055 2 года назад
I Like the story, like the introduction of court of owls, problem was the third act gets a lil messy and I think we’re for sure getting more joker in the next movie dc is gonna push it
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Yeah third acts aren't really my strong suit lol
@erikgain1294
@erikgain1294 2 года назад
I think I heard Matt Reeves confirmed Joker won’t be main villain
@Victor-qx3vx
@Victor-qx3vx 2 года назад
According to Matt Reeves the point of having Joker and Riddler becoming “friends” was to provide proof to Selina’s words “Gotham is not gonna change.” Reeves also said he doesn’t know if Joker will be in the next movie. I think WB is finally making the right call of letting the directors handle their visions with as little studio interference as possible.
@daanyaalmohammed4300
@daanyaalmohammed4300 2 года назад
I loved the third act! I don’t understand why many people think its messy, because it was well set up and Batman doesn’t just beat up the Riddler followers but ends up helping the citizens of Gotham.
@SpyJamz
@SpyJamz 2 года назад
@@daanyaalmohammed4300 The OP was talking about this video, not The Batman 3rd act in theaters right now. But I do agree I loved the 3rd act and thought it made sense. It was just more action than the previous acts.
@Mitcheck315
@Mitcheck315 2 года назад
I think the number one thing The Batman 2 needs is Robin, and Dick Grayson specifically. Not only would he perfectly fit into the arc for Bruce that the first movie set up but if Matt Reeves ends up going the route of the Court of Owls it would be a massive mistake not to have one of the most important characters in that story
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
I totally agree. I think that we need a little bit more growth from Bruce before he can take on a Robin, but there's also something interesting about Bruce possibly not being ready to be a dad and being forced into that partnership
@Mitcheck315
@Mitcheck315 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 I think Bruce not being quite ready to take on a Robin would work to be a really nice parallel with his relationship with this version of Alfred who also wasn't ready to be a father. I also think that because this series' version of Joe Chill explicitly was never caught having Bruce catch the Graysons' killer would be a great way for him to get some vicarious closure on his own parents' death while also making sure that Dick doesn't turn out like him
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
Another thing about Robin is that his origin could work to explore more of Gotham underworld after Falcone's death. I could definetly see the Flying Graysons death happening due to a gang war between Penguin and a new crime boss (someone like Ventriloquist or Black Mask) and Batman adopts Dick and the two work together to end this war
@Remix-pr4xd
@Remix-pr4xd 2 года назад
I think Robin can be set up but not appear in this movie.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
@@Remix-pr4xd It could work either way, although having Batman becoming a mentor for Robin would be the logical next step in the second movie, with the third movie showing the consequences of Batman allowing other people to come into his life, with a new enemy (maybe Strange, Hush or Court of Owls) knowing who Batman is and attacking him through the people close to him.
@iceman2080
@iceman2080 2 года назад
Idgaf what anyone says the Batman is the best Batman movie to ever exist on this planet
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Venom 2018 >>>>>>> but The Batman is up there
@iceman2080
@iceman2080 2 года назад
Oh yeah most definitely
@iceman2080
@iceman2080 2 года назад
PLEASE DO A PITCH FOR TASM3!!!!!
@naimrancier8197
@naimrancier8197 2 года назад
Yes
@zosord9654
@zosord9654 2 года назад
What about lego Batman 🤨
@legofan370
@legofan370 2 года назад
I don't totally love the idea of Hush being hypnotized by the Court of Owls, because I think he's a villain that can stand on his own two feet. But this story is still pretty damn good and just further fuels my theory that the next film will feature both Hush and Court of Owls.
@dedrik1461
@dedrik1461 2 года назад
I agree, I'd tweak it just the teeniest bit though. I have a deep respect for Hush so I don't think he should ultimately be just a lackey. I'd prefer it if Hush's personal decision is to derail Bruce Wayne much to the opposition of the Court, so he works for them and crushes Gotham's hopes which makes Bruce Wayne's sudden altruism the golden goose for the Court and their manipulations but Hush takes it on as a secret side mission to take the body parts he needs to look like Bruce Wayne.
@albertokorogu1258
@albertokorogu1258 2 года назад
@@dedrik1461 Yeah I think it would be in the Court's best interest to keep Bruce Wayne alive because in the comics they have ulterior motives other than just running the city. There are specific individuals in positions of power that hold significance for varied reasons.
@alialissa4688
@alialissa4688 2 года назад
The court of owls should be the villains for the last batman movie
@sirwannabeguy4886
@sirwannabeguy4886 Год назад
I personally like it, the prospect of someone like Hush being completely under the control of the Court is subverting and frightening. It makes it feel like Batman is going up against a foe completely untouchable to him. Everywhere and nowhere.
@legofan370
@legofan370 Год назад
@@sirwannabeguy4886 But you can see what I'm saying though, in terms of diminishing the idea of Hush? Maybe? Possibly? Lol
@halfmettlealchemist8076
@halfmettlealchemist8076 2 года назад
Wow I didn’t know the Riddler did movie prewrites now, he’s really branching out with his content after he flooded Gotham, good for him honestly Edit: Love the Kite-Man cameo lmao
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Who's that at 12:42 then
@halfmettlealchemist8076
@halfmettlealchemist8076 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 Oh shit I didn’t catch that, nice cameo there
@minihooperprod.8332
@minihooperprod.8332 2 года назад
IMO I don’t like the prewright. I think if your going for a slightly lighter and more colorful tone you may as well introduce robin (maybe Jason would fit best), Robert Pattinson and Matt Reeves both said they would be interested in a comic accurate 13 year old robin. You could’ve replaced Jack Ryder and his kid with one of the robins and their parents. I’m a big fan of the twist ending tho props for that love the idea of a rat with wings being the owls
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
I honestly don’t like the idea of Robin being a 13 year old vigilante, I think even in the more fantastical Batman universes that it’s ridiculous
@minihooperprod.8332
@minihooperprod.8332 2 года назад
@@IcyDiamond Batman is a billionaire, crimefighter dressed like a bat who also happens to be the smartest man alive and was trained by ninjas and lives in a cave with his butler. Who cares if robins ridiculous, ain’t that the point? These movies are about taking something ridiculous and making it more realistic and serious
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
@@minihooperprod.8332 I honestly like the idea of Batman adopting Robin when he’s 13, training him throughout the years and then when he’s older, he becomes the Robin we all know and love
@minihooperprod.8332
@minihooperprod.8332 2 года назад
@@IcyDiamond ik but think how cool it would be for like a badass lil Jason Todd going around stabbing guys at 13 years old lmao, I’d prefer robin for like a 3rd movie tho
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
@@minihooperprod.8332 I guess, I dunno it’d just kinda take me out of the world they’re tryna build, you know?
@jdellabeat6245
@jdellabeat6245 2 года назад
I like your idea of Hush, but a Clayface works even better for the angle that you're tackling. Love the video, by the way. He's a better angle for 2 reasons; 1) His occupation as an actor could work to set up a 'performative activism' that could work really well, in contrast to Bruce's arc and development. 2) His body horror-esque abilities could work well with Bruce working on his interpersonal skills and trust on his allies and the general population of Gotham (like Spider - Man 1 moment with the bridge). I would love to hear your thoughts.. Also, I do think further exploring the martial law aspect to Gotham could be great to introduce Renee Montoya as Gordon's partner and eventually her successor by being either destroying the existing force or be the Question as she, too, was inspired by Batman as a symbol of hope. I do think the assassin angle that you provided with, could help introduce Cassandra Cain to the fold. With her backstory and her interpretation of the Bat symbol, I think she'll make for an interesting first Robin than the usual first Robin we usually associate with. I think her father, David Cain, could be a bridge to connect to the Court more organically.
@epitaph4606
@epitaph4606 2 года назад
It’s way overdue for blue batsuit, love the idea of the thin bat symbol outline in yellow looks so good
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
I will fight for the yellow outline until the day I die
@alazkaalazka6087
@alazkaalazka6087 2 года назад
Nah the blue is dead
@albertokorogu1258
@albertokorogu1258 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 Eh just make it more like Scott Snyder's New 52 Batsuit where it's black and grey and I'm good. I'm not that interested in a blue on grey batsuit look but I think it could work under the right circumstances.
@marsreid7459
@marsreid7459 2 года назад
Actually bro the new battinson suit is actually blue and grey. There’s some promo photo stills out there on Instagram where u can actually see the colors. When I first saw it I was like woah his cowl, cape and collar are blue and his plates are grey.
@marsreid7459
@marsreid7459 2 года назад
It’s a really dark blue which looks black in the lighting of the movie
@toontrooper4103
@toontrooper4103 2 года назад
I think it was really funny when that cop said "the whole system would have to change" and then later in the movie there's that scene with the cops busting Falcone and Gordon says "I guess we're not all bad". I wonder if it was the writers or studio that got cold feet.
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Literally my only issue with the movie like what was that
@uuuudddiit
@uuuudddiit 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 That was "the few cops" too scared to speak up or take an action, finally taking an action as batman started working with them on cases... and they also found strength in "Gordon" and "Batman" to do the right thing. One entity no matter how corrupt, CAN NOT be ALL BAD. I like that cop who tells batman what the carpet tool was and who greets Bruce Wayne at the funeral.. was also the only one who stepped up and put his hand on batman's chest to stop him as "it was a crime scene" and he wasn't technically allowed there until Gordon said so. and he was willing to get beat up while everyone else just watched... Gordon can not be the ONLY GOOD cop that's too unrealistic. So after multiple murders, and getting so close to solving a big case, Falcone audio getting in news... they were willing to stand with GORDON and BATMAN to do the right thing.. BATMAN isn't fighting the entire GOTHAM. HE's fighting the corrupt, bad, Gotham for the safety and betterment of Few GOOD people still living in Gotham that includes COPS. and also, Bad guys thinking they own the shit, until they don't, until there is a chance, then even those who won't say anything will stand up if they know they are not alone. So yes, cops were silent and knew of corruption but clearly.. even some cops were shocked by riddler's revelations, "ignorance is bliss" i guess.. and same with bad guys, until no one interrupted them, coz all the big players were in the pocket, they didn't care about smaller cops who were good, coz "ignorance is bliss" hence, "the whole system needs to change". Also like Catwoman pointed out, "it isn't a choice for everyone" so some corrupt cops were also corrupt coz commissioner himself was in the pocket. That's why I didn't like that you mention Batman doesn't give the kid to gordon coz he doesn't trust cops. i think. he should have a trusting relationship with few low level cops who provide him intel with things they feel helpless about, that they can't do themselves coz of corruption. and after maybe 2 movies in 3rd when we see one or more of these recurring "good cops" die as collateral or someone trying to cut out the weed, (that. is a reversal) bad guys killing out the few good cops, it becomes personal for Gordon and Batman and US. We don't always need a kid, for a banter and to show care. But that's just my take. Yours was good too. but i hope more people thinking about how to implement what we are actually shown in the movie than, dismissing what they didn't like, to create a pre-write. (no hate tho, just an opinion). Much love.. sorry it's a big comment, got carried away. Hope you consider this and make a alternate pre-write. maybe/maybe not. bye. 🦇
@thespideycinemaclub3115
@thespideycinemaclub3115 2 года назад
This is much too similar to the movie we’ve already received. Especially considering the fact that they drew so much inspiration from Hush for The Riddler. We don’t need another string of murders. We need something more personal, such as a Mr. Freeze story.
@mohdsalmand1385
@mohdsalmand1385 Год назад
Not the Freeze, imagine Scarecrow as a proper Villain and Part 2 being a Horror movie.
@councilmanbanks6528
@councilmanbanks6528 Год назад
I don’t want the Court of Owls since Falcone’s crime operation is just like the point of the Court being secert
@certifiedgoober7496
@certifiedgoober7496 2 года назад
I think that’d it would be a bit cooler if the Batman suit from the first was so damaged that Bruce is forced to make a new suit, it would kind of address the whole “superheroes get a new suit every movie” trope like Dark Knight did
@f-zilla7347
@f-zilla7347 Год назад
Matt Reeves is like the new Peter Jackson. Makes a trilogy of masterpieces, then out of nowhere makes another surprise masterpiece years later. Also, if these movies have to have the funny society clown, then make him the final villain. Build him up slowly, and then the final film will be the climatic battle between Batman and the Joker. I think that could work.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 5 месяцев назад
Technically Matt Reeves only did the second and third apes films, not the whole trilogy, but i get your point
@timopaisley
@timopaisley 2 года назад
Overall it's a great idea, I'm just not sure if it hits the mark on the tone Reeves had for The Batman, seems a little more the way you pre-write a Marvel movie with the dialogue rather than a Batman sequel
@ToMtRoOpEr05
@ToMtRoOpEr05 2 года назад
The novel Batman: War on Crime is an excellent depiction of Batman and truly shows the hope symbol Batman is and I think that the second film should adapt it as a b-plot
@TanmanC
@TanmanC 2 года назад
I’d LOVE to see Mr. Freeze in the sequel! There’s so much potential there with the emotional turmoil of Freeze that I’d love to see how Reeves would tackle it. Also I feel like that the sequel could take place during the winter season, so that would fit for Freeze What was great about The Riddler in the Batman was the redemption of the Riddler from Batman Forever so that would work for a redemption of Mr. Freeze from Batman and Robin
@majumder456
@majumder456 2 года назад
YES I agree
@lilwinniepooh
@lilwinniepooh 2 года назад
yea since Gotham’s been flooded it would be interesting to see how it would look when all the water freezes over in the winter
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
Here’s my pitch for The Batman 2 The title would be Batman Duo The opening scene would have Batman saving some people from Killer Croc, establishing how the criminals of Gotham are changing since Falcone and the Riddler incident. The mobster are losing their place in Gotham while the “freaks” (the weird insane villains) are rising to power. Much like in the previous movie, the plot would be a detective noir story, with Batman trying to find a mysterious killer who targets street girls, causing him to gain the nickname Gotham’s Ripper (reference to Jack the Ripper). Meanwhile, there would be a sub plot about Batman dealing with a new crime boss who is trying to take over Penguin territory and become Gotham’s new crime boss. In one of this attempts his gang would cause the death of the Flying Grayson, resulting in Bruce adopting their son Dick Grayson and, as the two bond and become friends, he decides to train the kid, turning him into his partner Robin. Batman's decision to accept Dick Grayson as his sidekick would cause some drama between him and Alfred, who would belive that in insanity to allow a 16/17 old boy to get involved in a dangerous life. This would be the dillema for Batman in the movie, with him question if he's doing the right thing by allowing Dick Grayson to become Robin, dealing with his insecurites and fears that he might not be the ideal father figure to Dick, afraid to be a bad influence for the kid just like he was for the Riddler and his men. This is where movie would introduce Leslie Thompkins, a friend of Bruce's parents and she reveals to Bruce that his father also went through similar situations, helping the hero realize that he can be a good father/mentor for Dick and allow the boy to become not just hero like him but a better one. After some investigation, Batman and Robin would find out a connection between this new crime boss and the Gotham’s Ripper, deducting their identities: The Mad Hatter and the Ventriloquist & Scarface, The two villains were actually working together, with Mad Hatter creating new drug for the Ventriloquist and, as payment for the product, the crime boss gives the girls so the Hatter can control them, wanting to turn the girls into his Alice, his girlfriend who died during the battle between Batman and Riddler in the end of the last movie (If one the girls refuse to act as his Alice, Mad Hatter freaks out and kills her, feeling regret for doing it then ask the Ventriloquist to find another victim). In the end, the dynamic duo defeats the two villains (or three if we count Ventriloquist and Scarface as two characters) and they are send to Arkham, where they would meet the Joker and other inmates. The movie ends with the revelation that, without the villains knowing, they are all being watch by a mysterious man in the shadows.
@michaellucejr.6374
@michaellucejr.6374 2 года назад
The Mad Hatter plus Scarface and The Ventriloquist as well Robin into the mix sounds like a good idea for the sequel.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
Cool idea :)
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
@@michaellucejr.6374 Yeah, and, to finish the trilogy I think Hugo Strange should be the main villain in the third movie, with Batman dealing with a villain who is obsess with him, is cunning manipulator, knows the hero's identity and the people who Batman cares for the most (Robin, Selina, Alfred, Gordon).
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
@@IcyDiamond thanks
@michaellucejr.6374
@michaellucejr.6374 2 года назад
@@alexandrefrauches132 Yeah I mean if they don’t want to do the court of owls then maybe they can make Hugo strange sort of manipulator can I like how the Riddler was in the first film but make him sort of like a new kind of big boss for the city of Gotham
@ninjat-rex7472
@ninjat-rex7472 2 года назад
I personally would have added Robin, especially since we haven't seen him since the Batsuit had nipples. Maybe the plot could be vaguely similar to Batman Forever, but obviously taken much MUCH more seriously.
@jackleskovac3246
@jackleskovac3246 Год назад
I think a version of the rebirth suit would fit really well into this universe with the brighter yellows and purples in the suit
@SworlL
@SworlL 2 года назад
Paul Dano and Matt Reeves did an incredible job with a character that kind of had a stereotypical rep of being a bit wacky, and turning them into something completely grounded and terrifying. I think The Court of Owls is something that's just going to be unavoidable with the themes set up in the first movie if it does turn into a full-on franchise, however Reeves expressing interest in Freeze recently has really really excited me. I'd love to see his take on a character that I hold so closely to heart and I think Reeves could do incredible work with it in a sequel.
@JakeGoesOnline
@JakeGoesOnline 2 года назад
My big fear about adding Robin, is they made it a conscious effort to make Batman younger - so can he handle raising a kid? Idk And I would love different subtitles for part 2. Silence or Heart of The Batman would be wonderful
@SpiderSamYT
@SpiderSamYT 2 года назад
Oh boyo troyo cant wait for this. A Batman 2 could also be really good if executed well. By sequel standards it should expand upon the first movie. So I'm very eager to see what troyoboyo has for his prewrite!! Edit: This was amazing, beautiful, heartfelt, and mindblowing. Amazing job troyoboyo! The line delivery you had for the really sad scenes made me so emotional. But I just loved that batman is a symbol of hope. Especially the end of act 3. God, that was so awesome! And of course all of the usual stuff you do with the prewrites, like the paper cut outs, making some good jokes (like the bat boat lmaoo), and the 2d drawings for the 1st act. Oh and I just wanna say it's an honor being apart of the video, even though it was just me calling you the riddler at 10:15 👍👌
@Jadewhitelego
@Jadewhitelego 2 года назад
Yoooo Spider sam!
@SpiderSamYT
@SpiderSamYT 2 года назад
@@Jadewhitelego Yooo wassup! 👋
@awesomesnowman2453
@awesomesnowman2453 2 года назад
Honestly, I think this is the perfect time for a mr freeze story, with the flooded Gotham there’s no better time with water and ice being associated with each other
@gigglewizard24
@gigglewizard24 2 года назад
REWRITE TOBEY MAGUIRE SPIDERMAN 4 AND ANDREW GARFIELD SPIDERMAN 3
@omegavsrassilon5128
@omegavsrassilon5128 2 года назад
10:53 Matt Reeves said he doesn't know if the Joker will come back "in the movies". It was just for world-building, to show he exists. Also, I can't imagine it was studio mandated. Matt Reeves said he signed a contract to make sure he had full creative control. He won't be in the sequel, I promise.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
Honestly from interviews it’s implied that Matt Reeves wanted to keep that Joker scene in yet WB cut it
@omegavsrassilon5128
@omegavsrassilon5128 2 года назад
@@IcyDiamond Can you tell me any specific interviews?
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
@@omegavsrassilon5128 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--Blx1KgimDk.html
@omegavsrassilon5128
@omegavsrassilon5128 2 года назад
@@IcyDiamond Oh I've seen that interview. I didn't feel anything weird, although maybe I'm wrong.
@dariodavis56
@dariodavis56 2 года назад
Personally I would love it if they are to make this a trilogy of movies that they make Gotham go through an "Anakin" arc where as the trilogy progresses slowly the city deteroates from a hell hold filled with criminals and organized crime to a hell scape terrorized by freaks and supernatural beings
@sm4carnageihope
@sm4carnageihope 2 года назад
Ngl, kind of lost me on the first scene. Hush is great and all, but jumping straight into him after the Riddler feels like way too much of a repeat.
@johnycashgrab
@johnycashgrab 2 года назад
Bro, that last scene with the Riddler gave me chills, this is such a cool idea
@rookiefr
@rookiefr 2 года назад
I love your pre written videos man. I get a coffee and just get productive while listening.
@Visionary_Mike
@Visionary_Mike 2 года назад
That guitar cover of the batman theme is absolute god tier
@orbakun
@orbakun 2 года назад
So my idea for not the second but third movie is that they should take some inspiration from Arkham asylum (since we know that Matt is also looking at videogames) I think it be cool if it starts off with a more established Batman taking a villian into the asylum and having joke man riddloboyo17 and who ever the villian from the second movie working together to fuck with Batman in the asylum
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 2 года назад
Riddloboyo17 😂😂. I think this idea could work if it's someone like Killer Croc that he takes in after catching him or a locking up a villain that appears in the Arkham Asylum show (which should come out before The Batman 2).
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
I thought something similar, however, instead of going with Joker, I think the third movie could have Hugo Strange as the main villain, since not only he could work at Arkham and manipulate the villains against Batman, but he is one the few enemies who knows Batman's secret identity in comics, making him perfect to make Bruce deal with the consequence of allowing himself to come to the light and be close to others like Gordon, Selina or even Robin (who I belive will be introduce in the 2nd movie).
@AveChristusRex789
@AveChristusRex789 2 года назад
I agree. Imagine a movie imagined by a serious house on serious Earth where Joker or maybe Hugo Strange releases some of Batmans most depraved villains like Pyg or Zsasz to fuck with Batman and push him emotionally. Shit would really fit that horror vibe
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
@@AveChristusRex789 Betweem the two, I think would make more sense for Hugo Strange to do this since he could be one doctors at Arkham, and have study the inmates well enough to be able to manipulate them. No one would ever work for the Joker knowing how unpredictable he really us (plus Joker would never let any other criminal take away his "right" to kill Batman)
@PSydon1music
@PSydon1music 2 года назад
personally feel like scarecrow would be a perfect villain for this version of batman, especially as it potrays arkham vibes
@mrsandhu1215
@mrsandhu1215 2 года назад
Warner Bros’ confirmed: The Batman is getting a sequel and is rumoured to already be in the works. Hopefully it will be in cinemas 2-3 years from now
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
I think a sequel with Mr. Freeze and Robin could be cool tbh
@galactic85
@galactic85 2 года назад
We need Robin. Robin is important. You want audiences to see something we haven't seen in a batman movie before? Show batman as a father. Make a serious drama about him learning to be a good dad. Use "Robin's reckoning" as a template.
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
I really wanted to pitch a Mr. Freeze movie but these videos are inherently reviews of the previous movie so I wanted to stick with a similar tone
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 Fair, Hush definitely fits more into the Matt Reeves universe than Mr. Freeze does, though I do have some ideas on how to ground him
@saddammallik
@saddammallik 2 года назад
@@IcyDiamond I would like to hear it
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
@@galactic85 Or the Mandalorian, with Robin as Batman's baby yoda
@spider-nerd
@spider-nerd 2 года назад
I really feel like a vigilante ally for Bruce should be interdouced next movie but maybe not Robin. Next movie looks to be adapting No Man's Land after all so why not throw Cassandra Cain into the mix
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
I love Cass and I think it would be really cool to bring her in. I just really love Robin and feel like it's about time we get that relationship done right (not Titans) onscreen
@spider-nerd
@spider-nerd 2 года назад
@troyoboyo17 Oh don't get me wrong, Dick Grayson is one of my favourite fictional characters. But I just feel like we're in the perfect set-up for Cass
@chrispy3369
@chrispy3369 2 года назад
@@spider-nerd The fact we haven't gotten a good Robin in 27 years is kinda sad. (Batman Forever is dope and nothing will change my mind)
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад
They could introduce both, with Robin and Cassandra having their own arcs and Batman playing a role in both of them, finding new purpose to not only protect Gotham but also be a mentor for this young people who loss their families like him.
@obi-wankenobi4190
@obi-wankenobi4190 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 I want Jason Todd in number two who would then “die” at the end and we get a red hood (my favorite hero) in the third if this is what u said sorry I haven’t finished the video yet
@krisr4285
@krisr4285 2 года назад
I got literal chills when you reveal the court of owls rhyme! I'm so excited for what Reeves will obviously do with the Court of Owls! Great pitch
@iamthecore3383
@iamthecore3383 2 года назад
I like the idea for a new suit but I kinda wanna keep the suit that we currently have for a bit, maybe they can introduce a new suit in a possible third movie
@tripleaaakers9071
@tripleaaakers9071 2 года назад
I hope Hush is the villain in the sequel. They perfectly set him up wanting revenge on Bruce because of Thomas putting a hit on Hush’s dad. I feel like after the ending of The Batman he could be more public doing charity events leading him going to Harleys Circus watching Dicks parents die while reminding him of his childhood. I feel like the personal elements with Hush and him adopting Robin will put a huge strain on Batman and could be a very interesting story.
@trentm5125
@trentm5125 2 года назад
Seeing Hush right at the start has got me excited. Haven't finished the whole video, but the world Reeves presented seems like it's built for a Hush and Court of Owls story
@invisiblefan2387
@invisiblefan2387 2 года назад
I’m hoping for one small thing. Batman must eat nachos while brooding.
@Yosefsucksass
@Yosefsucksass 2 года назад
You should prewrite amazing Spoder-Man 3
@kianpfannenstiel
@kianpfannenstiel 8 месяцев назад
They definitely shouldn't go along the lines of "gotta wait x hours before we can consider them a missing person," especially when it's kids, because a) that isn't how it actually works, that's just a movie/tv thing (that should die) and b) it'd be astoundingly stupid to respond to missing persons reports by waiting for x hours to pass. Cops get on that shit immediate (in theory) irl, so they should do the same in a movie or tv. It doesn't actually change the plot at all. Need them missing for 48 hours before batman gets involved? Fine, they look for 48 hours on their own, figuring there's so many missing persons they can't get batman for every single one. Then, after 48 hours, they call him. Or else you could just skip the 48 hours and say "hey, bats, kids missing, go look" and do the exact same story you were going to do without mentioning they sat on they asses for two days twiddling they thumbs hoping he'd just turn up before they can go and try to find the child who is missing and whose family wants to have back very badly. This isn't a complaint specifically about your pitch, it's about this cliched trope that is so profoundly stupid and unnecessary. Why is Bruce leaving a kid who was only just minutes of screen time ago rescued from a hostage situation alone outside a fresh crime scene directly related to the kid's disappearance with surrounded by suspicious circumstances? Bad idea. Just have him cover the kid's eyes and walk him into the house. The hypnosis and heightened fighting abilities from said hypnosis is kinda whack. I like that there's a different Hush background though, so I'll vibe with it. For a movie mostly grounded in reality, a grenade doing that much damage is weird. Just put a bigger explosive there, like TNT. The Court of Owls is an excellent villain, but I don't know that it is the right pick to introduce just yet. Maybe in another movie, but we just had batman taking down the rich elites running the city through corruption and secret guile. More of the same would likely lead to stagnation in the franchise. Introduce them in the third or fourth movie (assuming a fourth exists).
@Homicidal_maniac-it8nc
@Homicidal_maniac-it8nc 2 года назад
I thought a sick name if mr freeze was the villain would be “hell freezes over”
@monsoon1303
@monsoon1303 2 года назад
I’m more partial to “A Freeze is coming”
@jamescalder5115
@jamescalder5115 2 года назад
The Batman: Time to Cool Off xD
@GWPetersFilm
@GWPetersFilm 2 года назад
​I would totally watch Riddler if he were on RU-vid, probably for the same reason I watch the really fucked up corner of TLC but still.
@Hanreky
@Hanreky 2 года назад
He has one
@Stegosaurus4000
@Stegosaurus4000 2 года назад
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who hated the Joker cameo. Tbh there a few things iffy I would change about the rewrite. First, you can have Killer Croc, but I would make him more of a deformed human before he mutates into a monster: just some scales here and there with slight hints of reptilian features. At first, I wasn’t a fan of you including him here, but he is often used as an enforcer, so it makes sense someone would hire him. Second, the third act gets a bit packed. We already have Hush, and now we’re introducing a whole syndicate of villains, for supposedly the next film? Also, it makes the twist of “what’s really happening with the hypnosis” thing kinda anti-climatic. Other than that, keep up the good work!
@lightsaber7863
@lightsaber7863 2 года назад
this is one of the best well made videos ive seen amazing video bro, and i could picture every scene u were saying amazing storytelling and i really hope matt reeves sees this video
@cycloneabsol9405
@cycloneabsol9405 5 месяцев назад
6:50 This reminds me of my current favorite moment from any Superhero story ever. My Hero Academia, season 4, episode... 12? (Might be 11, might be 13, you lose track of these when you binge.) The hero just took off his cape and used it as a decoy to sneak away. The villain says "Huh. And I always thought heroes just wore capes because they look cool." But then, we see that he'd actually taken it off as a blanket for a little girl, saying "the reason heroes wear capes, is so they can comfort someone in need." And as soon as I heard that, I was just like "YES. EXACTLY THIS."
@danhendricks68
@danhendricks68 2 года назад
Your movie pitches are great! You should find an illustrator and make some of your own comics. They’d be fire
@d-maproductions9175
@d-maproductions9175 2 года назад
When you talked about hypnotism i was wondering if the villain would be the mad hatter
@jdellabeat6245
@jdellabeat6245 2 года назад
I was low-key expected that too I also want Mad Hatter to be a potential villain too. Like, have him be a Music Man-esque figure who tries to get people into his hypnotism machines as a way for people to feel better after the major disaster in Gotham. Think of it like the Matrix.
@huffymeep
@huffymeep 2 года назад
10:20 hey look mom it’s me!
@famous.LASTWXRDS
@famous.LASTWXRDS 2 года назад
This was a fantastic video, my first one of yours. I gotta say im hooked and impressed.
@Beisenterg
@Beisenterg 2 года назад
How dare you Edward Nastion just say Kite man's name in one second kite man is literally one of the best dc villains because he's essentially spider-man but not a hero, he's a guy that lost a member of his family and he could have avoided that
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Kite Man is too powerful to be a main villain in the Reeves universe, it wouldn't be realistic for Batman to be able to win
@Beisenterg
@Beisenterg 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 Kite man is to op. He's a justice league level threat
@TanmanC
@TanmanC 2 года назад
This might be a weird comment but, I really like the way Troy pronounced certain words when he’s telling his story. As someone who likes to do public speaking, I respect the way he says certain words to get the audience intrigued into the story
@doomgaming592
@doomgaming592 Год назад
I think it'd be cool if in the ballroom scene we saw Killer Croc again, in a trenchcoat-sunglasses disguise
@jaceface1173
@jaceface1173 2 года назад
I'd love to hear your pitch for your sequel to your pitch of your sequel to The Batman. A Court of Owls story would be so sick, and I'd love to hear your take. Masterfully done, tying it all back to the rat with wings. Just outstanding. Thank you for this.
@Ransompie1
@Ransompie1 2 года назад
I’m not the biggest fan of this pre-write but you have some good ideas, good job
@swervezki
@swervezki 2 года назад
One cool concept i thought of was Every movie in the trilogy has a new nirvana song, there are a shit ton of badass Griffy songs they have
@Slinky007
@Slinky007 2 года назад
I love your vids expetially these ones
@Blank_Bowen
@Blank_Bowen 2 года назад
I’ve been waiting for this all week
@ScriptedEntertainment
@ScriptedEntertainment 2 года назад
This is brilliant, no words can stress that enough, you can very clearly see what would make an amazing batman film. Amazing.
@chironstudios4352
@chironstudios4352 2 года назад
Prewrote tasm 3 and Sam raimi SM 4
@UURYDON
@UURYDON 2 года назад
aside from the "snap out of it" thing with Tommy at the end this was great love ur take on hush and the owls introduction
@TheG_Boy
@TheG_Boy 2 года назад
Interresting take on the sequel btw i liked your performance as the Riddle
@iceman2080
@iceman2080 2 года назад
Bro when riddler started screaming when Batman was interrogating him, I laughed my ass off. Also that scene when penguin gets rammed by the Batmobile , and Batman just looks under the door that was funny as hell.
@olivercrespo2329
@olivercrespo2329 2 года назад
My top 3 are Mr. Freeze, Clayface, and Deathstroke. I think Hush will be too samey. As much as I’d love to see him.
@kitothekito915
@kitothekito915 Год назад
Clayface is cool but I don’t think it would fit the realistic aspect of Matt Reeves Batman unless they just stay faithful to the villain and his supernatural abilities.
@oddity3661
@oddity3661 2 года назад
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS ON MY BIRTHDAY THIS IS AWESOME
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Happy Birthday!!
@worm9591
@worm9591 2 года назад
Turning on notis for this one, I'm excited
@fourultra119
@fourultra119 2 года назад
Hush would be cool because I would love to see Pattinson play a villan
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
I wanna see my boy all scarred up and gross it'd be so fun 😇
@ehrentomate4831
@ehrentomate4831 2 года назад
kItEmAn hElL yEaH is hands down the funniest thing I have heard in a long time...
@nitereeper7248
@nitereeper7248 2 года назад
Bro I love how your using the Arkham knight version of Gotham as a background lol
@cheej5529
@cheej5529 2 года назад
That court of owls twist was nice, when the hypnosis plan was revealed I went the whole second half of the video expecting Hugo Strange but this was a nice surprise:)
@XFG_Official
@XFG_Official 2 года назад
As much as I love the Court of Owls, I think there's two really good options for a Batman 3 villain (especially if it's just a trilogy), both of which would hinge on setup in the second movie. The Court of the Owls as this mysterious force that could really play into the detective angles and whatnot, and could certainly be a overarching villain. But I also can't help but think of a villain perfect for Batman on a very personal level, a mirror to how angry and vengeance driven Batman was initially, the Red Hood.
@Skyrimkid9800
@Skyrimkid9800 2 года назад
So far I like everything in this fan write, except the “colored suit”….please god no blue or flashy yellow. If anything I’ll be fine with the iconic gray and black with the dark slightly gold utility belt. Also keep the next film a noir detective movie at heart.
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
I don't care about the blue so much but I think adding some yellow (like outlining the symbol) would help to distinguish Bruce's new outlook on himself and as Batman. Also I need purple gloves.
@Skyrimkid9800
@Skyrimkid9800 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 I agree, I feel like the artist should try and maintain that rugged Bat suit look, but with slight improvements. Im gonna assume the next movie is gonna be a year after the first riddler events, year 3 still is Batman is still super early in his career. And we still need to see Harvey Dent at some point.
@MightyAverage
@MightyAverage 2 года назад
I love the blue personally, and I know that it’s not great for a lot of people, but we haven’t had a live action blue bat suit in over half a century. I don’t think a BRIGHT blue suit would work for this universe, but navy blue would be nice.
@werescrewedpleaseendmysuff1028
@werescrewedpleaseendmysuff1028 2 года назад
@@troyoboyo17 OR make the removable batarang on the chest plate gold- that would totally work
@Skyrimkid9800
@Skyrimkid9800 2 года назад
@@werescrewedpleaseendmysuff1028 this is a fire idea
@UnknownJ25
@UnknownJ25 2 года назад
The Court moment you pitched was absolutely mind blowing amazing job
@k1llertoad
@k1llertoad 2 года назад
Great video, My problem with this is that "Crazy masked serial killer is killing important people and unveiling who's really in control of Gotham City" is already exactly what happened in the first movie, specially bc the look of the RIddler is so visually similar to Hush (mask that shows only the eyes, big coat). Also i'm not a big fan of the idea of Batman using torture to interrogate people like he's CIA or some shit, even if he's angry at the moment in the story, feel's specially out of characther for this version of the batman.
@k1llertoad
@k1llertoad 2 года назад
Also Silence of The Batman is a great fucking title
@brennankrahn4507
@brennankrahn4507 2 года назад
I really just feel like a Hush story would be too similar to how Riddler was handled in the first one. I would really like to see Scarecrow used in the sequel. In the first movie Batman said he uses fear as a tool, so it would be interesting to see fear used against him as a weapon
@Pondy33
@Pondy33 2 года назад
I think it would be cool to name the sequel after one of Batman’s other nicknames like The Caped Crusader or World’s Greatest Detective
@NilesCaleb
@NilesCaleb 2 года назад
I really want a grounded Mr. Freeze story. Maybe he doesn't have a freeze gun but crushable canisters that dispense fog clouds that will cool the area to sub zero temperatures. His wife contracted a disease so he froze her to keep her alive, but he accidentally caught some of it himself. So he keeps himself really cold, but not cold enough for him to not be able to move, but so that the disease is slowed. This Mr. Freeze is not at all a physically imposing villain but his mind would be his most important weapon. Maybe the lab that he works at doesn't have the chemicals he needs so goes around stealing chemicals needed for cryogenics. In the process he kills people by freezing them to death.
@mattbradbury3582
@mattbradbury3582 2 года назад
This is perfect love the twist at the end personally I would like to see a manbat horror film type for the sequel but this is great Troy will you make some more of these sequel pitches for the batman perhaps with different ideas and villains as you said would love to see your takes for Mr freeze , manbat etc.
@crushio0899
@crushio0899 2 года назад
The idea of Hush is so good man but I don't know if you know the fact that in the batman the riddler is a mix of hush and himself so I don't think Matt Reeves will put Hush in a future projects...maybe I wrong..
@connor1910
@connor1910 2 года назад
How about Whispers of The Batman. It keeps the “hush, hush” theme
@suto5704
@suto5704 Год назад
Great video. You should do a top 5 batman comics you would recommend or something like that. Also can't wait for your pre write of the batman 3 (unless you don't want to do that, that's fine)
@buffyoda3420
@buffyoda3420 2 года назад
I actually gasped when you revealed "the rat with wings" at the end. That was insane.
@swatteam93
@swatteam93 2 года назад
I love the idea of this current iteration of live action Batman having more emphasis on the detective aspect. Whether or not that actually happens with Hush and/or The Court of Owls, I hope it happens regardless
@M3xican_k1d_009
@M3xican_k1d_009 3 месяца назад
Creeper is dead Way before he could become whacky naked yellow man
@COOLERthenU
@COOLERthenU 2 месяца назад
I'm very sad
@gigalad8992
@gigalad8992 2 года назад
I really enjoyed this video and, even though highly unlikely, I will ask: can you please make another pre-write on the Batman 2? (Worth a shot)
@chickenwinna
@chickenwinna 2 года назад
I kinda doubt they'll actually do a Hush adaptation seeing as the first one was already inspired from the Hush story in a few ways. Realistically the villain is gonna be Crazy Quilt with Clock King and The Eraser as secondary villains. But the studios really gonna push for Penny Plunderer because they're so popular so I expect him in maybe an end credit scene. Personally, I hope they do Getaway Genius or maybe Mister Camera, but I don't think the mainstream audience is ready for that yet.
@elijahhaynes216
@elijahhaynes216 2 года назад
I like to think that for this universe, maybe Killer Croc was a large muscle bound fighter who wore crocodile clothes, but there was an explosion, and the clothes grafted onto his skin, and as such he has the texture of crocodiles, making it a bit more realistic.
@blueewee1746
@blueewee1746 2 года назад
Id like to have a scarecrow in this batverse
@nairrdlairrd
@nairrdlairrd 11 месяцев назад
Rewatching this video for what must be the 20th time, I‘ve been thinking recently about what other reporters might be targeted by Hush. Scoop Scanlon could be one, and I really like the idea of having Vicki Vale working alongside Batman in this movie. She could be a coworker of the first one to die and get involved in the case, probably surviving at the end. I think it could be hard to get Selina into this sequel naturally, but Vicki could be a placeholder until Selina came back in a third movie
@hankobs2366
@hankobs2366 2 года назад
I think that Dick Grayson will be introduced as a family member or family friend of Alfred’s as he said he used to be in the circus
@perezortegavalentin9343
@perezortegavalentin9343 2 года назад
I guess my only problem...it's not really a problem, but still...is Hush. And no, it's not because of your changes to Hush, I'm fully on board with changing stuff if it works. Your version is really good, and I'd love to see it. But, at least to me, The Batman left open ended Edward Elliot's son for a reason, and it's not to tease future Hush. AKA, given how...well, kind of Hushy the Riddler is in the film, I feel like it makes sense that Edward Nash is the reporter's son, that Matt Reeves merged Hush and Riddler for this movie. Again, Riddler is already decently Hushy in the film, and him being the reporter's son, it gives him yet another layer of viscerally personal motivation to do what he does. Not only did he grow up in a shitty orphanage and all the horrible things he said in the movie, but it was directly the actions of the powerful that lead to him becoming an orphan, and his utter hatred of Bruce Wayne becomes way more powerful because of this. "They would have said something in the movie", maybe, but it is left open ended. Sure, that dead reporter could be teasing future Hush, but it could also be a clue on who Edward Nash actually is, the last riddle that Batman didn't get to solve because it didn't cross his mind due of the Riddler's last name. It's Nash. But, given that, if Riddler is the reporter's son, it was his father who died and it left him as an orphan, maybe his mother was already dead and his dad put him her last name because of that. I know it kinda falls on Matpat territory, this IS a Film Theory, but I feel like everything ties up more neatly if it's true and makes the Riddler have an even stronger motivation to do what he does. So Tommy Elliot existing would disprove this. Again, I love your version, and I know my thoughts are just a theory that has probably already been debunked or something, but still.
@tomtudorweaver1078
@tomtudorweaver1078 2 года назад
Something I'd like to see them do, and this would be a little detail maybe shown in news articles or an opening montage, is if in the wake of the Riddler's attack he inspired other criminals to take on supervillain type personas, but rather than being genuinely effective criminals they're completely incompetent, giving us the goofy C-list and D-list villains from the comics. It would be a fun way to give cameos to characters like Killer Moth or Condiment King who in this universe have their colorful comic accurate costumes, but they're literally made up of tights and cheap fabrics (sort of like what the Marvel Disney+ shows did with comic accurate looks for Wanda, Vision and Loki, just a bit more washed out to fit the environment of Gotham). It would be a fun nod to the 60's show with their goofy designs and they'd be more of a nuisance to Batman rather than actual threats, however they'd be illustrative of the wider problem of actual supervillain threats increasing, as you highlighted Killer Croc would be a great example. Typically people make fun of how a lot of goofier comic book characters would never work in films, only for them to get adapted into really great charters (basically everything we've seen James Gunn do), so it'd be fun if in this universe didn't change them and simply acknowledged they'd be terrible criminals. I'm going into all this detail for what would be a briefly addressed joke, but I think it'd be a fun way to expand the already very alive feel of Gotham without making it overly comedic. Saying that seeing as we basically got Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dumb in this new film, I don't see why the Terrible Trio couldn't get a cameo as three random criminals in animal masks, could be goofy and creepy at the same time.
@Ray.7862
@Ray.7862 2 года назад
you know, ending with a court of owls set up and flying Graysons would work so well in a third since Dick was meant to be a talon it would be cool if we could see bruce save a boy from becoming a talon.
@troyoboyo17
@troyoboyo17 2 года назад
Ey thanks for catching that I haven’t seen anybody talk about that yet but that was totally what was going through my mind
@tripleaaakers9071
@tripleaaakers9071 Год назад
I like The Batman trilogy being about Batman fighting various orphans 😭
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