For me as a buyer, It's a tough call between Rav4 and the Outlander.(Non Phev models) - Cost and availibility of Spares (Lot many toyotas on the road, more availibility of spares and after market parts) - Cost of maintianance over time (few Mitsubishi dealers in Canada so dealers charge more for service) - Engine reliability vs power vs performance (Rav4 seems to have a slight advantage in terms of fuel efficiency and power) - Rugged vs refined (Outlander looks and feels more classy) - Spare tire (Rav4 offers a donut wheel for peace of mind, doing long trips in an outlander seems risky) - Cargo space (The outlander must have the third row seats tucked in to almost match the cargo space of a Rav4) - Battle of the warranties (Mitsubishi offers 10 year/ 160K Kms engine and transmission warranty which is unmatched) - Build quality (Outlander is assembled in Japan, so its super fine, but the Rav4 has a better underside that prevents it from rusting) - Infotainment (Outlander has a more engaging and classier cluster and infotainment center) - Rav4 has a proven engine, outlander engine (made by Nissan - PRD25DD) is fairly new. - Toyotas fetch better resale values
In my 2023 phev , the electronics are so delicate that there is a OVER RIDE to save the motors when the temp is below -29c . The dash will light up BUT you cannot drive the veh . Now in my 2018 phev it turned over when the temp was -29c , plus there was 73 days from Dec 18 to Dec 23 in Edmonton where the temp was -29c As of yet I have received No Apologies, promised upgrades or download that would fix the veh . So in short at -29c my 23 phev becomes a 4,400 pound hunk of scrap worth $65,000 .
I have a 2024 PHEV and we hit -30 in Calgary...mine did the same thing where I could not drive it on the battery alone but it stared no problem and I pulled out of the parking lot after 10 hours and drove it home...no issues what so ever. Gas engine just kicked on and away I went. I didn't know there are 73 days from Dec 18 to Dec 23...by my calculation there are only 5 days there. You also over paid. I got my 2024 GT model for $61,000 including tax (mind you I had to go to Lethbridge as even in Calgary they are trying to bend you over on MSRP and mandatory "extras")
I've heard this by so many users in colder climates, that once your lithium 20kwh battery is locked due to low temperatures to not sustain any damage, the car is done. you cannot start it like a normal ICE car and drive it like an ICE car. This is some really bad engineering from Mitsubishi for 2023 and 2024 models - 3 lawsuits underway. Did you receive the recall to have the software PDU update as Mitsubishi's way to fix this? Experience after that?
@3:30 it is INCORRECT to say the gas engine does not have to come in to help at all until about 130km/hr." The gas engine will engage with the front axle at speeds above 70km/hr, or 45 mph, when required. That does not mean the gas engine will always turn on at or above those speeds. It will only turn on when the driver demands, or calls up, more power and/or torque than the battery and two motors can provide at that time/speed. The gas engine can and will come on to charge the battery at any speed. But the gas engine will only connect directly to the front axle, via the single speed transmission, at speeds above 70 km/hr or 45 mph, not 130 km/hr 80 mph as you stated.
@@argent10k yep…but we do get Ten on the rest of the drive train…in the states its a flat 8 years & 160.000km for the lot. I’m not sure, but I’m guessing the 8 years 160000 km on the batteries would be up there as far as warranty’s go in Australia.
What about the whole issue faced by 2023 and 2024 models where Mitsubishi decided to get rid of the battery warmer and then did a useless software update in lieu of a missing mechanical part - the battery warmer, leaving the car started in soaked cold battery below -25 Celsius that cannot start? Literally asking customers to tow the car to a warmer garage or wait for the weather to warm up?
But Mitsubishi rarely replaced the high degraded batteries of the older Outlander, and ultimately fused to support battery maintenance also, so why would anybody trust Mitsubishi now?
They replaced the battery in ours. Whilst we were disappointed in the degradation in our original model, the way they handled it, including giving us a brand new Triton as a loan vehicle for 4 weeks whilst we waited for the repair was impressive. It gave us the confidence to buy this car, and it's been great.
Does anyone know if the Outlander will update the 12.3 inch infotainment from the 2024 Nissan Rogue? The new 12.3 inch display on the rogue includes google built in and is a huge upgrade. Im considering the Outlander PHEV but wondering if I should wait for a mid-cycle refresh for the 2025 Outlander? Thank you
Greetings from oakville Ontario thanks for the presentation I'm enjoying my mitsubishi outlander phev and no wait list but in British Columbia the province doesnt offer the green license plates just use your current ones unless damaged
I don't get the big deal about the Mitsubishi long warranty. Everyone knows how hard it is for Mitsubishi to accept warranty claims and to respect the terms in their own warranty agreement. Customer Service is important for warranties, especially on a PHEV, that's why I'm going with the Rav4 prime
It is false to say that the PHEV makes no noise... I don't know if it's the heat pump but when it is running with the air conditioning it makes more noise than many gasoline vehicles. A disturbing noise, a bit like the sound of a vacuum cleaner. It is well soundproofed so you don't hear much noise inside.
That's likely the drive battery cooler and the HVAC system working in tandem. The drive battery is liquid cooled via the refrigerant in the HVAC system.
