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Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV: Torture tested in the Flinders Ranges! | Auto Expert John Cadogan 

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Torture testing the Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in hybrid EV in the Flinders Ranges, SA.
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Mitsubishi says the Outlander PHEV is "rugged ready" - but it rolls off the production line with no spare tyre. In this report I investigate the feasibility of touring the Australian Outback - responsibly - in a vehicle of this nature. Can it (literally) handle the heat, and what do you have to change to do this safely?
This is also the first time I have ever driven an electrically-driven AWD system off road. Is it better, or worse, than ICE?
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@MitsubishiMotorsAustralia
@MitsubishiMotorsAustralia 10 месяцев назад
John, thank you so much for taking up our offer and putting the Outlander PHEV to the test. We truly appreciate your willingness to showcase what the vehicle can do.
@wyattfamily8997
@wyattfamily8997 10 месяцев назад
Well M.A. for actually putting forward the challenge. I've hada 2011 Pajero for years, most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, puts the others to shame.
@MoosesValley
@MoosesValley 9 месяцев назад
Sadly no cars are made in Australia anymore ... so there's a definite opportunity there. Please make these cars in Australia and a lot more Aussies will buy them !
@am1296
@am1296 9 месяцев назад
Can't make em here. Unions.
@jarrodhilton4860
@jarrodhilton4860 9 месяцев назад
@@am1296 I don’t think it’s because of the unions. It’s because of the sell out and making parts cheaper O/S. There were a few small businesses here in Aus that lost out too and even went under, not unionised but it was cheaper to manufacture elsewhere.. unions get the workers a fair wage. But other countries can pay nothing to workers to make profit cheap.
@Peter-qb1ue
@Peter-qb1ue 9 месяцев назад
The Unions (Bill Shortens) union kept threatening strike action for ridiculous wage increases whereby they became the highest-paid auto workers in the world. Overseas head officers said ENOUGH!!
@petercraig4648
@petercraig4648 10 месяцев назад
Mitsubishi seems to be one of the most genuine car companies in Straya. The fact a realist like John hasn't bashed them, speaks volumes.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Yeah - they're genuine, and pretty good at customer support. Definitely in the top 25%.
@maifantasia3650
@maifantasia3650 10 месяцев назад
Here in Thailand, it was the customer service and support that Mitsubishi provides (even assistance on where to get help with my 20 year old Strada G-Wagon) that has resulted in my purchasing their new Pajero, every few years (dealership trade-ins).
@keefy9663
@keefy9663 10 месяцев назад
When your battery degrades the support dries up. Just look up outlander battery issues where battery State of health degrades daily at highly accelerated rate.
@emmett3067
@emmett3067 10 месяцев назад
Or they're the only brand left that will talk to him and give him a car. PHEV is the worst of all worlds. A literal "Homer" car. There's only so many videos trying to sell flashlights (fleshlights?) and bagging EVs that John can do in a week.
@the.parks.of.no.return
@the.parks.of.no.return 10 месяцев назад
At the moment Mitsubishi or Toyota are the go to vehicles
@SomethingRandomChannel
@SomethingRandomChannel 10 месяцев назад
I’m 3mins in and just the fact that Mitsu has given John a honest crack at their vehicle is enough for me to consider it already.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
They were authentically behind it, 100%. The CEO doesn't spend two days with anyone without wanting to prove a point. (He's actually a decent bloke, and a very capable off-roader. Grew up on a farm in Sth Africa.)
@Dennis-zr3fb
@Dennis-zr3fb 10 месяцев назад
Well Misubishi have just gained alot of respect from this 4wd enthusiast, putting their car where their mouth is.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Yeah - same here. When they proposed it, I kinda said, 'you're kidding, right?' They weren't. And they weren't even slightly pushy about what kind of report I did.
@lesmansom7817
@lesmansom7817 10 месяцев назад
@@AutoExpertJChow’s the bullet proofing for the Jappie market?
@davidferry548
@davidferry548 10 месяцев назад
They are sponsoring the trip!! Only after he shit canned it, I smell hypocrisy
@MrRodgerMoore
@MrRodgerMoore 10 месяцев назад
Respect to Mitsubishi for approaching you and being willing to do this experiment.
@MrAidenaiden71
@MrAidenaiden71 10 месяцев назад
Wow I am seriously impressed Love my triton but the outlander is very impressive Mitsubishi Australia well done
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
I thought it would be substantially worse. It did pretty well in the rough - at least as good as a Subaru Outback or Forester, but I think the SAWC is better than anything Subaru does.
@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars 10 месяцев назад
@@AutoExpertJC I'll put my Outback in the ring to test that claim...
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Done.
@quentinstacy35
@quentinstacy35 10 месяцев назад
Mitsubishi has a great reputation for building vehicles that can handle some rough terrain. Nine outright wins in the Paris-Dakar with the Pajero is legendary. Risky move, letting Australia's most critical automotive journalist drive it and speak his mind. Well done to all involved.
@Amsterlager
@Amsterlager 9 месяцев назад
lol, he had the CEO of the car company with him who was paying all the expenses. Mitsubishi even commented on this video. This was PRed up the wazoo… no way you could call this a John Cadogan impartial review where he could speak his mind.
@goneoutside1011
@goneoutside1011 23 дня назад
Not even close to Subaru. That’s what every crossover is chasing
@quentinstacy35
@quentinstacy35 22 дня назад
How many outright Dakar wins has Subaru earned? Oh, that's right, none.
@mini_steve
@mini_steve 10 месяцев назад
Only 3 minutes in and I may jump the gun here, however I think it's brave and and rather remarkable a big company like Mitsubishi has allowed you to test it without censorship. Kudos to them, wish there was more of it from car companies.
@theairstig9164
@theairstig9164 10 месяцев назад
MMAL already did the trip. The risks were known
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Remarkable is the word. Most companies just have a tantrum when you criticise them.
@Hunty49
@Hunty49 10 месяцев назад
Nissan doesn't even let out a Patrol out for review for 4WD reviews. Just check 4WD 24-7 roundups and Nissan give nothing.
@janstafford1490
@janstafford1490 10 месяцев назад
Ha ha maybe those companies are learning how honesty wil win in the end, thanks JC.
@krissteel4074
@krissteel4074 10 месяцев назад
These have been around 10 years now in terms of Outlander PHEV's so they're sort of at that generation of development were you get a lot more reliability and refinement. Admittedly, for something without a spare tyre is kind of bananas in this country if you're out of the major cities. Come to think of it, there's a few places I wouldn't like to get a flat in Melb or Sydney!
@shadowminister4090
@shadowminister4090 10 месяцев назад
I'm pleased that Mitsubishi reached out to you and made this video possible. I'm not inclined to go 4WDing; it's highway driving for me. I do however have family who live on farms, down some pretty ordinary gravel roads and the thought of not having a spare, even around town or on the highway, would stress the crap out of me. Strapping a spare behind a cargo barrier is, I guess, a work-around solution, one at least work considering. Thanks for the video
@chrischapman1522
@chrischapman1522 10 месяцев назад
I like too have a spare tyre
@weinisable
@weinisable 10 месяцев назад
@@chrischapman1522 the spare wheel location is easily solved by usung a tow hitch mounted “swing away” wheel carrier ( some can mount two spares. That way you dont lose cargo space or clutter the roof rack..and you dont have to sweat hoisting wheels up onto the roof rack ! Prooven equipment on many touring 4x4s.
@vandemon8307
@vandemon8307 10 месяцев назад
I think that if the car companies want to sell to people in the country they will have to come up with a spare wheel, until then no sale!
@shadowminister4090
@shadowminister4090 10 месяцев назад
@@vandemon8307 country folk are a small market. I looked at a Model Y and asked where the spare was. Salesman said that there wasn't one, but the car came with 4 years free road service. Fat lot of use that would be outside of a metro area. No thanks.
@domnanzwandor
@domnanzwandor 9 месяцев назад
@@shadowminister4090 True but I also believe that the fragility of newer cars makes people less inclined to go off road. When I was a kid my dad used to take us to out of way places in his VW Beetle but we stopped when he upgraded to newer cars. It wasn't that he didn't want to go off road but for his price range off road capable cars were out and he couldn't keep the beetle as an extra car so that was the end of our adventures.
@twinrotors
@twinrotors 10 месяцев назад
This is a solid review, stress test. The company has earned my respect for submitting to this adventure!
@atsugnam1201
@atsugnam1201 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for this review, have a new phev myself and was waiting to see what it would be capable of before risking mine. Very realistic and fair review, was impressed with the performance.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
As long as you don't do Hilux-spec off-roading, you'll be fine. There are a heap of places you can visit, inside this envelope.
@HansGruber006
@HansGruber006 10 месяцев назад
​@AutoExpertJC a very important distinction John.
@doriangray6985
@doriangray6985 10 месяцев назад
Hilux-spec?
@tomhicks1009
@tomhicks1009 10 месяцев назад
@@doriangray6985Ground clearance, water crossings, bush bashing etc
@adampoll4977
@adampoll4977 10 месяцев назад
It's surprisingly capable off-road when it comes to controllable power and traction - clearance is your main limitation. I drove up a steep, recently cleared and wet forest slope, covered in slippery bark and branches (erroneously thinking it a track). It climbed up without fuss and in silence. The next day I walked it, thinking, "If I had walked this first I would NEVER have tried driving up!" and yet it did it safely and didn't even leave a trace of its progress. The great thing about the EV power-train is just how slow and carefully you can tackle an obstacle.
@bcme6068
@bcme6068 10 месяцев назад
One of best car video reviews I have seen. Even the no bs from the Mitsu boss, Shaun Westcott, about the car, target, the Simpson trip etc - refreshing to hear. I won't be selling up my diesel 4x4 anytime soon for the trips I do, but I can see this SUV will appeal to alot of people.
@peterbrockman161
@peterbrockman161 10 месяцев назад
Well done to Mitsubishi Australia for being so transparent and offering this test. Likewise thanks John for your honest, unadulterated opinion. Clearly the lack of a spare wheel, jack and wheel brace as standard items is a huge obstacle for those intending to purchase the vehicle to use in remote locations. Not just off-road. One would have to think that would be a deal-breaker. This vehicle appears to be another urban soft-roader for the 'It will never leave the asphalt' group of 4 wheel drivers. I'm not sure enough boxes have been ticked by these hybrid 4 wheel drive vehicles yet to get them taken seriously in remote locations off-road just yet.
@Rusty_Gold85
@Rusty_Gold85 4 месяца назад
Even getting a flat tyre in the city in a VE Commodore showed me how big a pain in the arse it is . They have very little area under the car to put a jack which doesn't take a jack cause it drops when you have a front wheel tyre flat !!! The workaround is a 700 spare tyre kit workaround not factory supplied.
@Measuretwicelad
@Measuretwicelad 10 месяцев назад
Congrats MM Australia, you would do well by potential future customers by putting out less of the ridiculous wanky commercials that EVERY car manufacturer does, more of this type of genuine gloves off testing such as this video, also, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a car manufacturer CEO getting in front of the camera lens, during a test, as I witnessed watching this. Well done JC👍
@ianchalklen1047
@ianchalklen1047 10 месяцев назад
I’m very impressed that Mitsubishi supported you in what was an open and honest review of their vehicle. Other manufacturers could/should learn a lot.
@decayofalberta1520
@decayofalberta1520 10 месяцев назад
I’m no EV fan by any means, but this vehicle really impresses me with the driving system. The SWC it’s really a very good system. I had a 2010 outlander before and it was an amazing vehicle. The SWC was was a good system then. I actually think a hybrid is a better option then a EV and would consider one if I was in the market for a new vehicle. Thank you for the great video.
@charleslander4866
@charleslander4866 10 месяцев назад
Kudos Mitsubishi, well done Cadoges. More like this please.
@hatman1234
@hatman1234 10 месяцев назад
Sounds like Mitsubishi slowly figuring out how to take hyped up technology and deploy it in a way that makes practical sense for real people. I wonder where it will go from here.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
This was pretty good - but clearly optimised for city and touring.
@KaineTube
@KaineTube 9 месяцев назад
Hard not to wonder how an off-road focused PHEV Pajero would perform...
@elliottflowers
@elliottflowers 10 месяцев назад
I've owned one for 6 months, and so far it has been great. Perfect around the city and does a decent job towing the camper trailer into some remote areas
@RodneyW
@RodneyW 10 месяцев назад
That's impressive at multiple levels. Firstly - gutsy move from Mitsubishi to give you a crack at it. Secondly, the car performed well in tricky conditions. (Mind you, I'd still be somewhat nervous about the ground clearance, and thus the risk of damaging the 20 kWh battery in an outback road...). Thirdly, the technology of the PHEV may be a more effective EV solution than the traditional (Toyota) hybrid, with full electrical running in town (when EV's work well) and ICE running when on the open road (when ICEV's work well).
@weinisable
@weinisable 10 месяцев назад
Toyota had the PHEV tech ,..with bigger battery capaciy for longer electric runs…in the Prius 2,.. but never marketed it in Oz .
@russelldines5887
@russelldines5887 9 месяцев назад
Ground clearance is 205mm which isn't bad. For comparison Subaru Outback is 213mm. Not Landcruiser figures but useful clearance.
@francodalpozzo7533
@francodalpozzo7533 10 месяцев назад
Well done John & well done Mitsubishi. I was a Mitsubishi sceptic but went from a Land Cruiser to a Pajero 3.2 a few years ago & was pleasantly surprised. The Pajero is extremely capable & reliable. Its not as good as the Toyota but much cheaper & better value for your money.
@dougstubbs9637
@dougstubbs9637 10 месяцев назад
John, does adding two hydrogen buffalo to one oxygen buffalo add up to a water buffalo ?
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
That's how you make them. We did that in engineering school. Buffalo synthesis.
@aerotube7291
@aerotube7291 10 месяцев назад
Good on you for .being open minded to this. I enjoyed this...hopefully the battery safety etc doesn't let it down
@lc1966
@lc1966 10 месяцев назад
John, did you find the vehicle was more likely to surprise the wildlife? I had an electric dirt bike for a year and found it scared the shit out of birds and Kangaroos.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Most of the approach noise of a car at 100km/h is aerodynamic and tyre impact (on the road). Maybe at low speeds it's a little more 'stealth' than ICE. (In EV mode.)
@SpencerHHO
@SpencerHHO 10 месяцев назад
Not a very carmaker type response. Maybe it's because of all the other stuff that Mitsubishi makes that lead them to behave in a manner that's uncharacteristically reasonable for a major car maker.
@neilbt478
@neilbt478 10 месяцев назад
@@AutoExpertJC I was surprised by an unsighted Tesla M3 when I went to cross a local 50 km/h road that goes over a hill. Surprised because it was making as much noise on the other side of the hill as an ICE...
@Wdeane1957
@Wdeane1957 10 месяцев назад
@neilbt478 most noise from cars is tyre noise.
@Parawingdelta2
@Parawingdelta2 10 месяцев назад
I crossed the outback with not a spare tyre in sight. Just the 22 wheels safely tucked away for later. Love those A380's.
@darrennorth7987
@darrennorth7987 10 месяцев назад
For those that dont get it. "Leaving, on a jet plane".
@JasonLianneMac
@JasonLianneMac 10 месяцев назад
Boring. Get out and see this beautiful country.
@Parawingdelta2
@Parawingdelta2 10 месяцев назад
@@JasonLianneMac I drove from Sydney to Perth and back in an HQ panel van with no air conditioning, vinyl seats and an AM radio. That's about as boring as it can get. See a lot more from an elevated position.
@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars 10 месяцев назад
Cybertruck: I can do that. **struggles** Mitsubishi: Hold my beer.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Quite.
@amromano03
@amromano03 10 месяцев назад
Love this type of content! I hope more manufacturers are willing to do this!
@TheTonySRich
@TheTonySRich 10 месяцев назад
I must admit that is is refreshing and not just a little surprising to see a car company put it's money where it's mouth is to prove the ability of their product
@DaleShipsIt
@DaleShipsIt 10 месяцев назад
Excellent review John. From what you say, it seems that the Outlander makes an average 4WD driver into a good 4WD driver.
@T-JS317
@T-JS317 10 месяцев назад
I'm interested to see how Mitsubishi will implement their drive-train know-how into the next Pajero Sport. I bought a Subaru Forester following your suggestion and have been very impressed by the car's AWD system. If you think the SAWC is superior to Subaru's AWD, I'm expecting great things for the next-gen Pajero Sport
@davidnobular9220
@davidnobular9220 10 месяцев назад
How's the CVT going ?
@weinisable
@weinisable 10 месяцев назад
The Suby is good but doesnt have a low range or the equivalent high torque at low rpm of the electric drive PHEV.
@T-JS317
@T-JS317 10 месяцев назад
@@davidnobular9220 The CVT is going pretty good. I've had the car for about a year now and have not experienced any nasty surprises, and I think there is enough power for everyday driving, including overtaking when needed.
@davidnobular9220
@davidnobular9220 10 месяцев назад
@@T-JS317 Thanks....I was hoping you'd had it for longer and had done a bit of off roading. I'd like to see how the news ones stack up after warranty.
@brianhoward9217
@brianhoward9217 10 месяцев назад
Really good to see you doing reports like this John, a welcome change from the Batcave - as I think you would feel too. Much has been said in the other comments with which I agree - willingness of Mitsi staff to trust you, their car and your report. Great to see everyone went home happy. Just a great watch and I learned a lot like you did about the device. Here's a request john - I'd love to see a back to back (or at least your considered comments) of the Mitsi Vs Suby Outback. Yes, Mitsi is a hybrid, I know, with low down advantages. However, I couldn't help but wonder all through your report how the closest competition may be the Suby and how it would cope. Would LOVE to see that review or at least some comments about it. Keep up the great work John and thank you!
@stpOwner
@stpOwner 10 месяцев назад
Is this a joke? The tracks you went on could be done in just about any car
@keithmottram8755
@keithmottram8755 10 месяцев назад
Hi John, very brave of Mitsubishi to take you on. Kudos to Mitsubishi! I liked your comments about the Outlander being a soft roader. Most of these vehicles will never see dirt, let alone a dirt track. As I watched your report, I waited for you to mention the advantages and disadvantages of this style of vehicle, and you certainly made good. Well done, a good report.
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 10 месяцев назад
Battery packs do not like to come into contact with ruff roads or deep water which tends to make an off roader seem a bit tenuous in my opinion. Give me a classic range rover anyday.
@GolLeeMe
@GolLeeMe 10 месяцев назад
Well, I shared your concerns with this vehicle initially as well. Now I have seen the movie, I can say I am impressed. If only from the driving seat comfort of my PC. What a great bit of kit this system is. I see Outlanders around town all the time and I think they are really a great looking vehicle. Now I am convinced by the PHEV version being just that little bit better. Thank you for taking the challenge and going through this methodically for your viewers. Beard strokers take note.
@ForTheBirbs
@ForTheBirbs 10 месяцев назад
Wow, talk about putting your money where your mouth is. Well done Mitsu Oz. I don't drive due to medical stuff and miss my Paj Sport so much. There seems to be so much BS out there from uninformed and ignorant mechanics and dealers, slagging off Paj Sport and so on. What a great car this is, and such a refreshing and honest report John.
@Rockbottomsurf
@Rockbottomsurf 10 месяцев назад
I fought Isaac Newton’s laws and the laws won.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Don't they always? So predictable...
@biastv1234
@biastv1234 10 месяцев назад
I fought John Laws… laws always win
@Rockbottomsurf
@Rockbottomsurf 10 месяцев назад
@@AutoExpertJC laws are made to be broken.
@Rockbottomsurf
@Rockbottomsurf 10 месяцев назад
@@biastv1234 that kinda was true during the Castrol era.
@biastv1234
@biastv1234 10 месяцев назад
@@Rockbottomsurf valvoline, if you know what I mean 🤦‍♂️
@DidYouTryRestart
@DidYouTryRestart 10 месяцев назад
I feel like you have done a complete 180 on this John. The car is sold as off-road ready. Are they telling people at the dealership to strap on a spare tire, doubt it. They just give you the keys and say go for your life. It doesn’t matter if the car can handle the terrain, a flat tire is a flat tire.
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing 9 месяцев назад
the car is city ready for all the feminine fellas not bush ready. go through some flood water next time...
@allanblackbourn990
@allanblackbourn990 10 месяцев назад
Really interesting John. Informative and glad Mitsubishi got you out there to give us your views from outside the bat cave.
@Alasdair-Morrison
@Alasdair-Morrison 10 месяцев назад
It has the most ugliest front end (IMHO not your's!) Like a soccer shoe maybe. Most thing If I could ever afford to own one would be that battery replacement cost, warranty, Insurance cover and support when something go's, wrong usually just out of warranty, bet they'll stiff you then. And would taking it 'Off Roading' even be covered by insurance? Heard some bad stories where insurance won't cover any type of 4x4 that's been modified or not and driven off road. ALL MY OPINIONS not your's so you know what to do if you don't like it........FO!!
@dqkneely9803
@dqkneely9803 9 месяцев назад
mitsubishi wasnt even on my radar as a possible purchase but after such an in depth review and explanation of its systems and capabilities its safe to say that i now genuinely want one. as im on the market for a new vehicle i will definitely be taking one for a test drive.
@Elemblue2
@Elemblue2 8 месяцев назад
Its a really good "Tool Vehicle". It does everything, and it does it well. Freaking amazing in some cases. Absolutely incredible against snow, for example. Is there something you could use this for? It does it. Like a swiss army knife with a damn good knife and saw. But some other specialized cars do some things better. For example if you just want REALLY good fuel efficiency, the new prius is great. The rav4, while bad at many things this car is good at, does have a slightly more fuel efficient engine *(I dont think its worth the trade). I personally think trading 5-10% of a few strengths to be really good at alot is worth it, but maybe not in a few cases. Back when its starting price was 48K, it was really good value tool.
@philmarriott8084
@philmarriott8084 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for doing the experiment John and thanks Mitsubishi for making it possible. I guess I fall into that “ singlet wearing dude” category, with my beefed up Y61 Wagon. You touched on pretty well all of my concerns throughout the review. I am quite impressed to be honest. If you’re going to take the Fam for a light off-road adventure occasionally in one, you might want to think about incorporating room behind the barrier for a fridge and some simple recovery gear if things turn to poo and you do get hung up. This leads to me to my question, does the car come with proper recovery points front and rear? I mean engineered points for connecting a snatch strap, soft sling or winch hook? Other than that it gets the thumbs up from well done!
@pquk
@pquk 9 месяцев назад
I’ve just bought one and yes, it has a recovery point at front and back. The only standard equipment it comes with is the recovery hook, a bar to tighten it with, an electric air pump and a can of goo for emergency tyre repair. No spare tyre supplied so no jack either. (I do plan to do some travelling so the sort of gear he used here is probably what I need to get. Maybe with a different, less pretty, set of wheels fitted with more outback type tyres.)
@timragtec1641
@timragtec1641 10 месяцев назад
Great video John, hopefully other manufacturers will learn from this, as many have already said well done Mitisi for backing your product and backing themselves by providing you the opportunity to test it for yourself with no editorial input from them, fingers crossed you can get us more content like this
@toolguy8819
@toolguy8819 10 месяцев назад
Great review, have been wondering about the phev for sometime. Cant go full EV what is the battery chemistry? Would there be a need for underbody battery protection?. Have been a blue singlet boy now with emergency training, recovery points would be a must to sort before outback/ mud. As a kiwi advice would be snow chains for slippery clay
@SimonMaudeShowreel
@SimonMaudeShowreel 5 месяцев назад
I drive my Outlander PHEV up snowy mountain roads in NZ and haven't had to use chains yet. Read my other comment about battery protection. Also, if you're off-roading, the flimsy plastic sump guard really should be swapped-out for a stainless steel one that covers the battery too.
@warrenhastwell1705
@warrenhastwell1705 10 месяцев назад
One of your best video's, and yes we all don't want to go full on rock hopping, nice vehicle.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Thanks, Wazz.
@erroneouscode
@erroneouscode 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately nature has the nasty habit of dumping them wherever it wants to.
@PeterSharp-s5r
@PeterSharp-s5r 10 месяцев назад
Observation - Car should have been fully loaded for a true test. Maybe 300 to 400 kg of gear, eskies, and camping stuff. No one drives the outback in a virtually empty vehicle.
@stevenalexander403
@stevenalexander403 10 месяцев назад
Pragmatic, unbiased and brutally honest as usual, now which Mitsubishi dealership has an Outlander PHEV in stock?
@nickraschke4737
@nickraschke4737 10 месяцев назад
I guess the $64000 question is, would they warranty it off road?
@stefanziemer6644
@stefanziemer6644 10 месяцев назад
Great to see you out of the fat cave again, it’s been too long. Would a small rugged trailer to carry spares and fuel make it a little easier to manage the spare when the inevitable happens and for a family to carry all the accoutrements required? If so, what’s the towing capacity and GVM etc?
@AdamCulf
@AdamCulf 10 месяцев назад
Not once did you mention the battery causing a fire and death to the operator and family within? It's hard to follow your narrative. Also, have they fixed the reliability of their PHEV battery yet? You didn't mention that either.
@kradius2169
@kradius2169 10 месяцев назад
19:07 ... No worries.
@mullins6429
@mullins6429 10 месяцев назад
Thanks and congratulations John and Mitsubishi Australia. This is the sort of video in my opinion that might help change peoples thinking towards switching over to electric or hybrid vehicles. Such a good presentation. 👍🇦🇺
@trevormcpherson1447
@trevormcpherson1447 10 месяцев назад
Been waiting for a review of one of these.
@invisiblealex007
@invisiblealex007 Месяц назад
I've heard from owners that this projector on the windshield does not support the display of turn arrows on the navigator if you have connected your phone (CarPlay, Android auto). Is it true? Why did not they implemented that? You always use your phone, not the built-in navigation.
@jeffreyjohnston2445
@jeffreyjohnston2445 10 месяцев назад
Russell Coight should have done this trip.
@davewalkerden
@davewalkerden 10 месяцев назад
I pick up my Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV in a few weeks. I'm buying the Outlander PHEV to replace our Audi Q7 Quattro and mostly to take advantage of tax incentives. I also hope to put the excess house solar to better use than selling it to the energy company for peanuts. It's not a vehicle I would use for off-roading though as, whilst I don't own a blue singlet nor a camouflage T-Shirt like Mr Codogan, I do have a dedicated 4x4 for off-road adventures.
@PeteTheL337
@PeteTheL337 10 месяцев назад
I can relate to some of this. Coming from a pure diesel with a stick to an automatic phev has been quiet the change and required some mental gymnastics. Like getting use not being in control the same way. Feedback is also very different. I've had mine for a month now(driven around 2500km) and I've gotten the hang of most of it but it still feels a bit odd from time to time.
@Ful-OGold
@Ful-OGold 10 месяцев назад
I’m still not a believer in taking electric through dirt and water. Yeah sure they show you taking it off road once but it will be a different story doing it day after day for 5 years or the life of the vehicle. Also what’s going to shit itself in those conditions and how or who is able to fix it? Definitely not your local backyard mechanic. It will have to be trucked to the city to get looked at.
@walterk8602
@walterk8602 9 месяцев назад
Very sensible and informative. I've had a Mitsubishi phev for 6 years and its never let me down. We upgraded to the latest PHEV in September so that towing our camper van was effortless. Very happy.
@Tony-ew1mx
@Tony-ew1mx 10 месяцев назад
Well 2 days of driving distilled into a 30 YT video hardly seems enough of a test report. Didn't really see anything that stressful or challenging. Despite the TV ads, which definitely promotes the idea of unbridled 4 wheel driving to get to those places unseen, it's hardly a vote of confidence for the vehicle if you need to take a Dakar rally sized support crew to ensure its, and the occupant's safety. I also don't think that most people who do the ARV (or other) hard core update on their 4WD are going to keep it locked up in the garage every weekend so suggest a bit more than 5-10 percent of off-road use. The end result best keep this one within 25km of the cbd and primary roads if you need to travel outside the zone.
@RC-wu6gm
@RC-wu6gm 10 месяцев назад
The off-road capabilities are what I expect and I can understand why it comes with no spare. But they still need a proper spare mounting location or accessory. e.g. a swing out tailgate with spare mount option or vertical mount location in the luggage compartment.
@twig3288
@twig3288 9 месяцев назад
The most off-putting thing for me is the aspect that you mentioned multiple times on the video, complexity My old Pajero diesel had amazing wading ability thanks to the integrated snorkel, wouldn’t fancy my chances in a PHEV in water
@matttunstall2159
@matttunstall2159 10 месяцев назад
Just on the subject of spare tyres in the Outlander PHEV. I had the previous version and I built a trailer with matching wheels and tyres so that I could carry multiple spares. When the time came to actually go on a big remote trip, I traded the Outlander for a Pajero Sport.
@superbinbin08
@superbinbin08 10 месяцев назад
The lack of an accessible spare tire can be easily addressed by carrying a spare on hitch mounted tire carrier like the ones sold by Wilco Off-road or Rig’d Supply. Not a deal breaker in any way.
@napoleonnz
@napoleonnz 10 месяцев назад
Having just had a flat fixed this morning, a spare is a necessity regardless of the powertrain. That rules out hybrids and EV's for me as I don't know of any that come with a spare. However it is great that you have had this opportunity, you haven't been out testing in a while so here's hoping that we will see some more of your trustworthy reviews. I'd particularly like to see a comparative of some cars in the middle- mid sized, mid priced, mid power, cars that us ordinary folk would shortlist. Incidentally, isn't the Outlander just a Nissan Rogue in disguise?
@mrgarrison3516
@mrgarrison3516 10 месяцев назад
This 60k + car review, low profile tyres & no spare in an outback test is a bit of a joke I thought.
@weinisable
@weinisable 10 месяцев назад
@@mrgarrison3516 they were just demonstrating the drive system is capable of off road use. And he did talk about the need for appropiate tyres and spare wheels (all easily solved) if you do venture offten or far off road.
@vandemon8307
@vandemon8307 10 месяцев назад
They are missing out on sales not having a spare, we don't all live in the city, I can't believe the backward thinking by car companies. If they wake up down the track, they will sell more hybrids for sure!
@mindfreeze0838
@mindfreeze0838 10 месяцев назад
Yes its rogue in a different avatar and they gave a solution for the lack of spare, mount it on the roof with the available roof rack.
@zaksuzuki
@zaksuzuki 9 месяцев назад
I think the point is you shouldnt have to mount a spare wheel on the roof rack just to have one. Its kinda stupid. @@mindfreeze0838
@j.martin7321
@j.martin7321 10 месяцев назад
A manufacturer called out your "satirical" BS. I wish more would do that.
@nothingspecific04
@nothingspecific04 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for this review, and well done to Mitsubishi for finding a constructive way to address your earlier criticism. I have an Outland PHEV on order and the waiting time until delivery is giving me too much opportunity to consider if I've ordered the right car, perhaps I should cancel and change etc. This report helps that a great deal.
@jamiesultana3725
@jamiesultana3725 10 месяцев назад
....I'm on the same boat in regards to that. After seeing this, I'm now thinking a little more confident now about my choice
@thelastpilot4582
@thelastpilot4582 10 месяцев назад
In England going of road is putting two wheels up the kerb when dropping the kids of at school. 😁😁👍👍
@MattBlack6
@MattBlack6 10 месяцев назад
Had a mate accompany me on some tracks in the Yuraygur National Park in a 3rd gen Mitsubishi Outlander. The majority of it was child's play in my 80 series LandCruiser, but a bit of slippery stuff here and there, the Outlander had to pick a couple of careful lines to not bottom out or take off the bumper, but it was surprisingly capable. Our next trip it came along on the Condamine River track near Killarney, once again piece of piss in the old LandCruiser but some water nearly headlight height in the Outlander and once again, not a problem. If this vehicle is more capable again, then it will be very impressive for a soft roader.
@Equiluxe1
@Equiluxe1 10 месяцев назад
What about when the battery gets a bonk and the car does a Luton on you or does the car come with a CHOBHAM bash plate for the battery. If Mitsubishi were still in the UK I would have a look at the PHEV.
@justinkennedy5405
@justinkennedy5405 10 месяцев назад
Interesting John. Not unexpected too much though, after all my father drove us through the Flinders Range’s several times in the 80’s in a Nissan Urvan, or Tissue Box on wheels as we used to call it. Did rough tracks, forded streams; we camped in an old army-surplus tent. As far as I can remember we only blew one tire and scratched up the paint-work plenty. My only main concern for the Mitsubishi was the tires. Too low-profile, with a road-going tread pattern. Did well in the dry by the looks of it.
@forgetfulduck
@forgetfulduck 10 месяцев назад
I'm more amazed you came to Adelaide....😅 what are we now? You called this town something along the lines of dried old persons land.
@netsurfer1960
@netsurfer1960 10 месяцев назад
Well done, John and Mitsubishi for doing this. I look forward to other manufacturers doing the same in the future (yeah, I know, high hope) 😆
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 10 месяцев назад
I am from the Netherlands. My family and friends predominantly have driven all kinds of Mitsubishi cars since the seventies. We were only disappointed once (base Galant from the eighties had oil consumption issues and rusted like nothing else). The rest of the fourteen Mitsubishi cars during this period, almost perfect in reliability and durability. Are there better driving cars? Yes, a little better for the price, sure. Are there more beautiful cars? Yes. But I think the reliability and durability is my main demand and that has been top notch Japanese up to my present Mirage/Space Star.
@stevelloyd5785
@stevelloyd5785 10 месяцев назад
My 5 year old Outlander PHEV does have a jack and the usual bent rod wheel nut tool, although I prefer the trolley jack and socket set when I do wheel rotations. Also has a bottle of goo and a 12V compressor which failed to operate the one time I wanted it after lowering the tyre pressures for beach drive testing. It was just the switch that failed but that rendered it useless, strange because I had previously tested it. I carry the sticky rope type tyre plug kit and a better compressor than the original. I did have to use the plug kit on Anzac day when my aftermarket TPMS showed a 4PSI drop on one tyre due to a stray tech screw. I was near home so it was no big crisis, but good to have on hand and save a trip to the tyre shop which would have been closed. Doesn't have an inverter though, but I might do something about that.
@JohnErnstP76
@JohnErnstP76 10 месяцев назад
One can only imagine the capability if they put this tech in a Pajero Sport or even a future Triton where you do have the space for spare wheels. There is also a party trick that this has and that’s it can power your house with its V2H/G capability with the only people stopping this being big power companies who suddenly realize they have no future in domestic power supply. Which we are already considering for our off-grid weekender in the Victorian high country.
@CNile-se9xw
@CNile-se9xw 10 месяцев назад
I'm glad you brought up off-road training, because it would be easy for someone to become over confidant with this system that makes it so street free.
@batmanlives6456
@batmanlives6456 10 месяцев назад
Quite impressive Mitsubishi are impressive in their thinking… I must admit I underestimated the capabilities…
@grantlouw3182
@grantlouw3182 10 месяцев назад
I can see how a simple removable DIY drawer / fridge slide system built into the back, with accommodating a spare tyre in mind, could make this really useful for the odd light off-roading / gravel road trips that most folks going bush would do.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
It might work, but it's all added weight.
@stephenkellie8911
@stephenkellie8911 10 месяцев назад
@@AutoExpertJChow do you feel it would go pulling a light weight camper van of say 1200kg?
@dallass8665
@dallass8665 10 месяцев назад
Mitsubishi has come along way especially the phev outlander great video too john shows us what the outlander can do in the outback instead of being stuck in the city all the time
@ianthepelican2709
@ianthepelican2709 10 месяцев назад
Nice, here's hoping Toyota extend you the same courtesy. 😉Plug-in hybrid is definitely the way forward for Australia, but I'll probably still take the bike. Cheers.
@Maddog00427
@Maddog00427 10 месяцев назад
I genuinely think Hybrids have a place in the 4x4 community.. It's only a matter of time. But to have a sole EV 4x4 is just plain crazy... I understand that this is not what the video is about but I am hopeful hybrid 4x4's will become a regular thing in Australia. I (because of where I live and holiday) would like to see long term results of the electrical system from being exposed to things like salt and sand.
@TheKnobCalledTone.
@TheKnobCalledTone. 10 месяцев назад
You'd also want a pretty stout bash plate the protect the battery. The last thing you want is for the battery to experience a thermal runaway event in dense bushland hundreds of kilometres away from civilization.
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Hybrids for the range, off-road, right? Major advantage. Energy management.
@Maddog00427
@Maddog00427 10 месяцев назад
100% @@TheKnobCalledTone.
@Maddog00427
@Maddog00427 10 месяцев назад
All of those things John.
@SevenSixTwo2012
@SevenSixTwo2012 10 месяцев назад
@@TheKnobCalledTone. It's ok, he'll just buy a new one if/when it burns down. Obviously he's got money to burn, since he wants a 4x4 with a 10 year shelf life expectancy before the scrap yard crushes it. Ever wonder if there are going to be 20-30 year old 4x4 "hybrids" still on the trail in the future, like there are ICE Tacomas, 4Runners, Fords, Chevys and Jeeps? Nope... not a chance! Vote with your money and say no to disposable electrified garbage.
@dws-art
@dws-art 10 месяцев назад
Can Mitsubishi please get rid of the lame Russell Coight advertising on this car
@adamcoe
@adamcoe 9 месяцев назад
Have had a 2024 PHEV for about 6 weeks now and it's been fantastic. I'm not offroading with it but I do a fair bit of winter driving so the S-AWC system is great to have. Even in normal driving mode it stays glued to the ground. Not to mention i'm 2200 km in and I have yet to go through my 2nd tank of gas. Really impressed so far.
@PascalSchoenhardt
@PascalSchoenhardt 8 месяцев назад
I'm at 2000km and about to fill the tank for the first time 😁
@jakubhostinsky4482
@jakubhostinsky4482 10 месяцев назад
You sitting in EV? How dare you :-D Probably you are practicing "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
Harsh - I'm not anti-EV.
@jakubhostinsky4482
@jakubhostinsky4482 10 месяцев назад
@@AutoExpertJC I apologize, I didn't mean to be rude. ... My coworker bought a new hybrid Toyota RAV4 this year and as he drives very little with it, it happened to him twice, that 12V battery was dead after just 2 weeks of storage in warm garage. Aparently RAV4 suffers from this insufficient charging of 12V battery world wide. Do you have any video for this topic? Thank you.
@johannesschaller5510
@johannesschaller5510 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant opportunity to find out how the Outlander PHEV would work in the moderately rough stuff. Mitsubishi’s certainly put some faith in you John, to deliver an honest and cogent report, and I’m sure many of your viewers will be impressed by the outcome. A couple of issues left unclear: towing capacity. Will it tow a small trailer or lightweight camper? This would assist with the need to bring a spare wheel along on such journeys. And what is the roof load capacity? I noticed that you put the roof rack to the test, but given the roof load that I’m guessing would’ve exceeded 100 kg, is the vehicle up for that?
@jhaydraude
@jhaydraude 10 месяцев назад
Tow capacity isn't massive, but it is capable; it's got a decent amount of torque for a crossover and those electric motors love to pull things. I believe in Australia it's rated for 1600kg braked. In North America it's rated for 1500lbs unbraked. Dragging a 16ft boat behind one of these poses no issues.
@johannesschaller5510
@johannesschaller5510 10 месяцев назад
@@jhaydraude Thanks - good to know. 1600 kg is ample for a small camper trailer or box trailer and gear. Towing something like that I wouldn’t expect the range to suffer too much, compared to an EV at least.
@farken7467
@farken7467 10 месяцев назад
The Outlander is way under rated for what it can do. I have a Diesel 4wd version, it has surprised me more than once with its capability, only downside is the ground clearance. The 4wd system is brilliant, it'll run in 4wd high or you can lock the centre diff and use low gear. I'd go for a PHEV when they change the battery from a Lithium Ion to a solid state battery and add a full sized spare like my Outlander. This PHEV version is more Mitsubishi than Nissan which is a good thing, Mitsubishi engineering is on another level. The most under rated brand in Australia with excellent after sales service.
@rrphotography3600
@rrphotography3600 10 месяцев назад
Seriously impressive for Mitsubishi to hand you the keys. Certainly proves the point. Reminds me of what people used to use sedans and station wagons through the 60s-80s. Plenty of photos of people heading through river crossing and sandy tracks for adventure in a 2wd sedans from that time before 4wds became popular/ family friendly. Mind you its also a stand out thing to meantion that most factory 4wds will go alot further standard than people give them credit. Without needing to drive through the 4wd aftermarket catalog.
@rcflighttestengineer5636
@rcflighttestengineer5636 10 месяцев назад
I have had mine for 3 months now and haven’t regretted the decision to buy it for a single second. It is a fantastic car in every respect and the pure EV range is enough for 90% of my daily driving. It is a shame our technologically ignorant politicians are pushing pure EV over PHEV. PHEV, for the majority of drivers, is more environmentally beneficial, given you are not carrying all that battery weight and encapsulated carbon that you don’t need for the vast majority of your driving, and the small amount of petrol being used for the other, maybe 10%, will never add up to the environmental damage of producing a 60-100+ kWh battery in a typical pure EV.
@wapphigh5250
@wapphigh5250 10 месяцев назад
What practical range are you getting on EV only? thanks
@rcflighttestengineer5636
@rcflighttestengineer5636 10 месяцев назад
@@wapphigh5250 Depends a lot on speed, I live in a regional area, if I am just running from the farm on the outskirts of our town in to do some shopping, at ~80kph and getting the benefit of some regen, then around 70-75km. Driving on a freeway at 110kph with all that aerodynamic drag and little regen around 60km. It is also somewhat temperature dependent, on really cold mornings the displayed range when you start up will be well down due to the battery needing to use some of its capacity to raise its temp to an efficient operating temp, I haven’t yet had a really hot day to see if this holds true in needing to cool the battery also.
@margarita8442
@margarita8442 10 месяцев назад
u went places a clapped out 2 wheel drive hyundi could have gone
@AutoExpertJC
@AutoExpertJC 10 месяцев назад
I bet you've been to a lot of those places, huh?
@oldbloke204
@oldbloke204 10 месяцев назад
Yeah a 2wd Hyundai can lift wheels at each end and drive up a hill.🤣🤣🤣
@madmick3794
@madmick3794 10 месяцев назад
Oh dear, primary school education or just never had a licence?
@oldbloke204
@oldbloke204 10 месяцев назад
@@madmick3794 Grade 2 the best 4 years of their life......................
@bol2320
@bol2320 10 месяцев назад
It’s an expensive EV with an engine, no spare tyre and fitted with road tyres. It’s hardly a safe vehicle in the outback. I could ride my mower over the ‘tracks’ you drove. Let’s go back to hating EVs …especially in the bush.
@golfmike13
@golfmike13 10 месяцев назад
EVs are just getting better and better mate, can't deny it!
@andrewdickinson423
@andrewdickinson423 10 месяцев назад
Good on Mitsubishi for doing this. I like that they put themselves out there for this I feel your initial comments still are valid. Sure it’s capable but not off-road ready. I would assume a Subaru forester or subaru outback would perform at least similarly but they always come with a full-size spare, wheels with larger side walls and greater clearance. Meaning I think the scope they have from the factory is better.
@ron_zrl
@ron_zrl 10 месяцев назад
thanks John, this has just really backed up my decision in getting this vehicle soon hopefully. Truly impressed what Mitsubishi Australia did here and you of course.
@thetowndrunk988
@thetowndrunk988 10 месяцев назад
This is an outstanding review, and I must give big props to Mitsubishi for their rational response to your previous critique. How refreshing would it be if, say, Volkswagen, or Three Spoke, actually considered a real review of their platforms. It’d change the auto world, I dare say.
@bafs08
@bafs08 10 месяцев назад
Did you hear that??? It's the sound of John swallowing his pride
@kradius2169
@kradius2169 10 месяцев назад
28:43 ... Crocodile EV! Spare tires? What about a Pole Star to comfort you after you're stranded?
@kradius2169
@kradius2169 10 месяцев назад
19:06 ... 🤣
@Swaggerlot
@Swaggerlot 10 месяцев назад
Fire extinguisher for everything bar a battery thermal runaway.
@alanplumpton4589
@alanplumpton4589 10 месяцев назад
Given that relatively minor shunts/under tray damage etc, risks battery damage/thermal runaway, what confidence will there be in taking an electric vehicle off road when it is likely to be frequently bottoming out..?
@nickoneill8600
@nickoneill8600 10 месяцев назад
Love my Mitsubishi. Great cars
@hutchfromba
@hutchfromba 9 месяцев назад
Doesn't the Outlander come standard with all terrain tires ?
@SubigarageIstanbul
@SubigarageIstanbul 10 месяцев назад
hey John, I appreciate your honesty and objectiveness a lot and I also share your love for honest car makers like Volkswagen. I live in Turkey where we are closer to the HQ of Vag group and I think it should be noted. I would like to bring something I have discovered to your attention. I run a small business on car audio and deal with all sorts of cars. VW, Seat, Skoda , Cupra and Audis come equipped with '' premium'' sound systems and you can see their logos on a columns, door panels ,etc. And here is what I discovered: The advertised brands do not exist in these cars. Speakers are made by somebody else in China or Hungary or....and they either have a different unknown brand or no brand at all. Amplifiers are made by Panasonic . Speaker grills say '' Canton, Beats, Harman cardon, etc but the speakers , the actual parts of the system have been made by some other third party. In my book this is deceiving people which is something they have done in other aspects of car making before ( Dieselgate ) I would happily send you some pictures of the equipment I removed from these cars if necessary. take care, Ozkan from Turkey.
@strayadude9053
@strayadude9053 10 месяцев назад
None of this was off roading or rock crawling lol. This was an unsealed driveway at best…
@mohammadmartin-sq8qq
@mohammadmartin-sq8qq 10 месяцев назад
No spare wheel/tyre, forget off road I wouldn’t even drive around town without one. Are you expected to have road side assist and wait for them? Not in a real man’s world!
@maverick_akl1824
@maverick_akl1824 10 месяцев назад
Are you missing arms? just buy a spare wheel and put it in the back.Did you even see the video? they had 2! If you do off roading everyday then this is not the car for you. Its a city car, which part of that do you not understand?
@arthurchronopoulos
@arthurchronopoulos 10 месяцев назад
Bought this car, and I'm really surprised by its capabilities at the moment. Look forward to an offroad adventure soon.
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