Well, by golly then I am glad I got to upload it !! LOL Thanks for the smiles Jerry, but I'm betting there's more videos on the subject out there than ya think.... Thanks for watching !!
Hi Wendell! Great Job! That was a tough one for one person, but you always find a way to get it done and done well. Very interesting how those Farmall wheels attached. Thanks for sharing!
Yes, the mounting is really cool. On a Massey Harris, I have soaked, heated and beat for weeks at a time to move them. I actually use a 50 ton hydraulic jack on the tough ones. This one was a cupcake by comparison because of the design. They WERE in fact rusted in pretty solid.
Thank you KK for the kind comment. I assume you found the whole playlist on the Farmall H...?? If not they are all together in one playlist up at the top of the page under the playlist heading. Feel free to watch any or all of them. Even a 12v conversion with a Denso one wire alternator !!
You can never have too many Tractors. I have a least one of every Letter Series Farmalls ever made. and 5 of then are M,s! All total I have 20 wheel tractors and 5 bulldozers. Some havent been started in many years. I dont have any life Insurance or retirement 401 or pension. Its all in old iron. When Im gone my Heirs can have a estate auction. Or keep it ect. I wont care It will no longer matter to me. LOL
Oh dang... 14 Farmalls !! I only have a few by comparison. But like Randall Watts says here...a fellow can never have enough tractors. I am taking the reference to your Pop as a compliment Jeffrey. Thank you....by the way, he musta been a handsome guy. Jus' sayin'....LOL
@@thecollectoronthecorner7061 Yes, Randall I agree. Like my daughter (at 2 1/2) told an older cousin when asked how many M&M's were in her hand. Looking at her palm, my little girl just said: "Not enough". I'll never forget that. So tractors to us are like M&M's were to her. LOL I only have one little crawler...but two back hoes and a skid loader plus the old tractors. Its a shame that I too haven't had many of them running in years !!
Thanks for the awesome response John... YOU get the gold star for the days best comment !! LOL. Btw....have you noticed the Farmall H playlist up top? Puts all these H videos in one spot: ru-vid.com/group/PLk72G9DTzZ1u4HTcEVKC3ehyV_UsFYaAG This might make it easy for you if you are interested. Thanks again !!
Good morning Wendell, great job on slimming down that tractor! A few minor adjustments and your all set! This video just goes to show that “there is more then one way to skin the 🐱 “
That one has a cool story. My regular 8' is in the other shop and is a 1959 Connecticut brand. This one is a Dreis and Krump. I was doing a favor for a buddy installing a furnace for his friend a couple years ago. When I was done, the old fellow (on crutches) said he had one he bought new brake back in the day and bent nothing but light gauge aluminum flashing for mobile homes skirting. He said he hadn't seen it in about 25-30 years or so and it was covered with all kinds of stuff. I gave him my number in case he ever wanted to sell it because he didn't want to right then. So fast forward probably 6 or 8 months, I don't remember, and I get a call from him to come get it for $ XX.xx IF I still wanted it. So....here it is !! Man, it is in EXCELLENT shape too. Not bent or sprung and the bending bar has no notches in it or anything !! Thanks Matt for the comment...sorry you had to read such a long response. LOL
@@tractorman4461 Your response was just fine! You should do a video on it. I have plans to build a box and pan brake once I catch up on the 500 other projects I have going LOL!
@@mattthescrapwhisperer I tell ya....a good old buddy passed a couple years ago and I was left a Harbor Freight box and pan that's 24 or 30'' width....I don't remember which width it is. But it is surprisingly heavy and well built for small projects. I use my lighter 22 ga 48'' Connecticut box and pan for most things where a box and pan is needed. I bought the 40'' new in '85. But if I was looking for a small universal brake, the Harbor Freight is a remarkably good tool for the price. Before you build, you might want to check one out...see if it will fit your needs. It wouldn't be worth a darn for duct fabrication though.
Wheel spacing depended a lot on your row crop spacing. We only had two tractors we moved the hubs in and out on. One for planting and cultivating and the other for picking corn... The rest of the time all were kept at a minimum width. Thanks for chiming in Peter. Good to hear from you today.
Hi. That looks like it went really well.....no large heavy sledge. Must've been the fact you soaked everything in oil. I learned how to control the wheel weights by myself with just a rope. See I learn something just about every video. I have a couple of those ol' H Farmalls. I like them.....thank you for teaching me another trick. Have a great day.
Yep...gotta keep on your toes to keep stuff OFF your toes....LOL. These hubs haven't moved in at least 30 years. I think the ease of moving them was their design. When the half moon hub slug is knocked loose and out, the weight of the wheel and tire literally swings itself and the hub loose breaking the rusty bond. I have moved dozens of wheels in and out and this style, hands down are the easiest for me ever. Thanks Jerome for watching and commenting. Glad you liked it man....oh...and you are welcome !!
Good info Wendel! I just bought a Super C Farmall last weekend with 5' belly mower. Just started doing a lot of PM on it, should make another great tractor to use. Stay safe!
That's way cool Conrad. I've always wanted a C or Super C. I'd like a narrow front, but a wide front would be ok too. Good luck with your new tractor, I am sure you will enjoy it. Thanks for the visit and there is a whole playlist on the H being serviced.
Harder on you without the overhead,more education for us without overhead! I have the zerks on my jd and i never think i have enough lube back there cause no place to ooze out. Thankz for the tipz! U made that werk look easy.
The seals keep the grease in so the extra heads up the axle housing towards the transmission case I guess. Farmall is who made the job easy with the design of the hubs !! Man they are really easy compared to the Massey Harris hubs. I have worked my tail end off moving those and actually broke an Oliver 70 splined hub with too much heat and 'persuasion'....learned my lesson on that one. Patience is a virtue...... LOL Thanks Mike for the cool comment once again !!
Good video just did this on the m the first wheel was way harder just because my buddy and I had to figure out the best way by the second tire I was able to do myself thanks for the videos
Yep... the first one has a much longer learning curve doesn't it.... Should have done the second one first, then you may have gotten done quicker.... LOL I know, bad joke. Thanks Bibster for the visit.
I should've used anti-seize on these hubs too. But I will never move them again and they hadn't been moved for at least 30 years this time !! I use it on most anything that may need to come apart in the future. I'm getting a bit low on the good copper-based stuff though. Thanks Rockee for the comment !!
Now see....that's one great reason for making videos. I pick up so many tid bits of information from guys like you. We've never been big Farmall guys so there's a TON of stuff like that I just never heard of before. Thank you for the added input. Now I'll have to keep an eye out for one. Sure would be easier, no doubt !!
Yes I also dont like the rear wheels extended out real far. The reason for the adjustable rear tread wasnt for stability. It was for row crop spacing to fit between the crops. A wide rear axle or a wide front doesnt prevent a tractor from flipping over. Its not putting them in a place where they can roll over that prevents accidents.
Yes, we had to change wheel spacing every year for the corn planter and cultivating. We used the same tractor for both to minimize the work. We had the hubs set so we could just reverse the two wheels and run them backwards for the duration of the season. You'd be surprised at the number of people that think the only reason to run them wide is for stability ....
IH has one of the easiest set ups for adjusting wheel spacing. I'm mostly a Massey Harris fan, but their hubs have a tendency to rust solid onto the axles. Thanks for watching and commenting on the H video series. There's a whole playlist on the H at the top of the page: ru-vid.com/group/PLk72G9DTzZ1u4HTcEVKC3ehyV_UsFYaAG
Not too bad Bob, but I do prefer working in the wood pile and around heavy pieces with my steel toes though. All's well that ends well I guess. LOL. Thanks for the comment !!
@@bobhover3863 no Bob, I sure haven’t gotten it yet. I just asked the Missus if she might have set a package behind the couch or something. No, we just haven’t gotten it yet. Was it by U S Post office or Fed Ex or UPS ?
@@bobhover3863 ok. Do you by chance have a tracking number ? It’s not unusual for our on line pharmacy to take well over a month to deliver items. So let’s hang loose another week or two. I will let you know immediately if it shows up.
Green tractor 37 Hey 44 TM I have a "c" type hanger to hang on my over hear hoist to install those wheel weights The weights on that H weighs 135 lbs. I put 4 on the 400 on each side. You have borrowed it, I know it is quite a distance from your shop to mine. It is hanging close to Andys 44. For you know I am to lazy to do it the hard way so I made this thing. Works for me.
Hahaha...I didn't know they were that heavy. Felt like a 80# sack of cement !! It was raining that day, (I think) so I couldn't go over to the hoists to slip these inward on the axles the easy way. I need to make me one of those things to make it easier for me too !!
A H has 38 in rear tires and will spin out trying to pull a heavy load. A M with the same size 38 inch tires will pull that load and never spin a tire, its the heavier weight of the M that makes the difference. You need those weights on a H. My father also ran liquid in the rear tires of his H. Once I got a H stuck in deep red clay mud. Really buried the rear tires. Then cane a couple of weeks of freezing weather. We got that H started and I let it warm up. Got on put it in first gear and it pulled a great wheelie before it broke the ground loose and came out. Big gobs of red clay frozen to the rear tires.
@@thecollectoronthecorner7061 Good story about freezing one in like that !! I fired one up about ten years ago that was sitting in a frozen puddle though and it peeled the failing recapped rear tread right off the tire !! Well, I stopped at 30'' or so. I guess it was a recap....it sure peeled it like a round banana !! And yes, the weights are going right back on. I looked in the pile for another set. I thought I had a second set, but nope. If I had three or four sets, they'd ALL go on.
I like the way the tractor ( indeed all tractors ) looks with the wheels moved inward, as this Farmall will be soon. Watch the fingers and toes,...of course you did and do, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing this video, now would we? :)
Hahahaha...yep...it sure is done and leaving a much narrower foot print too !! Well Reg, I do have to reinstall the weights yet. That extra little bit will make a lot of difference on the roller. If I had more, I'd stack 'em on there as well. Thanks for the chuckle my friend.
How's she goin'? Gearing up and figuring what may happen if something gets away on you is a great practice and will save injuries. Nice work strapping those wheel weights and letting them down easy!!! The wheels came loose pretty good to eh. That made the job a lot easier. Thanks for sharing and take care!!!
Well, the pneumatic impact and a week of spraying the bolts down helped a lot. But they still needed some pretty good 'persuasion' to be driven out of their holes with the hammer and punch !! I just couldn't get to the hub bolts with the wheel weights on. Thank Mike for stopping by today.
THAT would give the Missus a bad day....and me a much worse one. LOL. We really try hard to keep the injuries to a minimum here regardless of how it appears to the untrained eye....LOL Thanks Danny for the comment as well as for watching !!
Thanks Richard. I do try to keep it just north of boring. Probably can't claim success all the time though. Thank you for the comment and for watching !!
I've been waiting on replying so I could go look at them again, but I keep forgetting every time I'm out there. I'm guessing the bolts for the weigts are 3/4' and the axle clamps are every bit that diameter or larger. I just don't remember what they were. If I ever remember to check for sure I'll add it to the comment.
I thought I would mention something I seen on a farmall H, I seen in the scrap yard today. Maybe I'll go back and buy them and put them on my H tractor. It's was some (red) rear cast iron center & rear rim's , that you could move in and out like an allis chalmers. by just ( I've never had an allis to do it, but seen it in a video) driving or spining it in and out some how. It caught my eye, as I had never seen that casting look, as these did. so I looked closer. then i looked to see how they bolted to the axle , the looked tight and nice fitted like they belonged. There always somebody , willing to come up with a way, to make some thing easier . I know there 's the keyway on the I H cast part So the one, the guys using must have that the same as the H one. to not slip and work
Those are 'power spread' rims and hubs Bill. Those are unusual to find on an H. If I had that opportunity, I'd go buy them myself. When loosened, in low gear or reverse at an idle lock the opposing brake to spin in or out. After a few times, it becomes quite an easy task. You may have to roll a bit and bump the brake to get it started and repeat to complete.
@@tractorman4461 Thks, Now it makes me want to buy the power spread rims even more. Tks for naming them. My wife, say's, I can go get them but, were not putting tires on them for a long time, if they need tires. I'm in Wisconsin, the chance of you being near here, is pretty slim .Are you way out east?
@@janbill79 I'm pretty much directly south of you a bit. I'm just a few miles off the Mississippi River and just south of St Louis Mo. I like Wisconsin, there's a lot of old Masseys up there. We came up to the Dells a year or two before the covid thing. We loved a cheese factory we ran across waaaaay out in the country !! Man, there was some good stuff right there. While we were there a Missouri tour bus came in and 60 or so old timers and their wives came in. Turned out they were a group of snooty rich people from one of the fancy suburbs just west of St Louis on a private tour. As soon as they found out we were from (heaven forbid) out in the country south of St Louis they clammed up and wouldn't even give us the time of day !! We got a kick outta that. Some people seem to think they are way above commoners like us. LOL But we really loved that cheese factory anyway.
@@tractorman4461 Thks for the small world story. that's funny. St louis , Ok, Yeah we got the classic masseys.( wi) seems like always 1 or 2 for sale . there was a model 333, I wouldn't of mind having, couple weeks ago. but with about 101 projects, I'm learning to finish one where money keeps going into just one till done. and "even through",i see cool tractors and parts for sale. I 've got a two tractor a year limit. & thats done this year jd 620 & cub farmall.
@@janbill79 Oh I just can't work with a two per year limit. That worse than trout fishing !! I'd break that limit by March on a good year. LOL. I too have waaaaay too many projects, but when another comes along I just can't say no to a bargain !! Oh well, like I tell the Missus, it keeps me out of the taverns a night..... I have a stuck Cub for sale but I really want to part it out. I've nothing as new as a 620. That'd just freak me out to have something reliable !! I missed TWO 333's just miles apart because every time I stopped no one would answer the door. No numbers, just signs on them. A good friend and Massey collector managed to buy them both though. Good luck with your endeavors Bill. Take care and enjoy the day.
I hadn't messed with the width of my H, and I don't think I will. They're in the narrow position already with the dish in. I would have to switch the wheels to the opposite side to get the narrowest position with the dish out. I don't think I want to do that. I seen a video of a guy who bought a Farmall C, and he complain about a previous owner cutting off the axles after moving the wheels in. I guess cutting off the axle ends will keep you from snagging them on something or yourself, but I don't know if I would do it.
I agree. I would never cut the axles short. I've got a 44-6 parts tractor that a guy torched the axles off a few inches from the axle bearing housing just to keep the hubs and wheels. It will have to have replacement axles to put it back into a usable tractor.....but we have been scrounging parts off it fr 20 years anyway. Heck, it was one of the free tractors too. So I can't complain....LOL. I like the axles set to be even with the rubber like this one is.
Well...you could tell by my doubling up of the 1 1/4'' wrenches I had to bear down on some of them to bust 'em loose. That's an old impact I bought at a farm auction 25 years ago. But the bad thing is the air compressor is three 50' hoses away. So the pressure drop out here in this shed is bad...real bad. I set the regulator at 110 psi, but I bet its supplying 70 psi or lower out here. I have to run a 2'' line out to this shed, add an 80 gallon reservoir, then extend piping through the center of the shed with multiple drops for the air hoses. I have all the parts, just not the time. Same story huh. LOL. I tell ya though I have a new 625 foot pound air impact that this old one beats every time. I have no idea what it is...but on a short hose off the compressor...WHEW !! It does good. Thanks again BubbaG for the question !!
Nope , it's only you using it , just at a reserve tank with in 50' and you'll be fine. You ain't gut no high demand need'n to supply boat loads of pressure .......... ............. can use a pancake compressor to run me hole gee-rahj .......... all about stored energy............ ...and leaks !!! BEE WELL TM44 !!!
@@bubbagump4686 If I really need a lot of pressure quick, I fire up the pto driven compressor on the home made sand blaster. Now that puppy can put out some air quick !! Yes, pressure drop with my current 'temporary' set up is definitely the killer.
Bubba has a point. Just having a portable pressure tank with input and output fittings will let you build pressure and run your air tools. The pressure drop is lack of flow through the hose. The portable tank will provide max flow at the job. The cycle time between bolts will let the tank catch up. It is a trick I used on pneumatic equipment in the factories.
@@OldSneelock Even with the pressure drop from 150' of 1/2'' hose that old pneumatic wrench has more torque than a 110v Black and Decker 1/2'' electric impact. I use a pancake to run the nailers for hardwoods and stuff like that.
Yes, I also use a track jack on my tractors. I find it far better than a hydraulic. I only loosen the bolts maybe a ½" to slide the wheels in or out. I also use gear oil on the axles and it seems to slide a little easier. When installing wheel weights, I place to weight on the exposed axle, through the hole. Then line up one bolt and install it. Then I can rotate the tire until the weight pivots on the bolt and aligns with another bolt and then I can install them all. That's how I do it when I don't have any kind of hoist or loader to assist me. I learned the pivot trick when installing or removing manways on storage tanks when I worked with the Boilermakers. Interesting on my John Deere B the manual tells you (after moving the wheels in) to coat the exposed axle with grease and cover with canvas! I never saw Dad do this but the last time I moved them in I did what the manual instructed and the axles are no longer rusty or dirty and move easy when I want to move them. 👍👍👍
Good tricks !! This is the first Farmall hubs I ever moved so it was a bit of a learning curve on the first one. I tell ya though, they are miles ahead of Massey Harris's hub design. Now that I have them figured out and the axles are clean I will no longer remove the bolts if I have the need to move them and I will use your technique or something similar.
Yessir....you are correct !! Sometimes its hard for a dummy like me to work smarter though...LOL. Thanks for the cool comment and for taking the time to watch !!
