Farmertec Holzfforma G444 Unboxing 

True enough. Ordering a 3 dollar part with 5 dollar shipping still makes it cheaper than buying the part from a local stihl dealer as well. Granted the dealer may be able to get it faster. Of course don't mention it's for a clone or they throw a fit LOL. I have plenty of saws to use in the mean time so dont mind emailing through the time change.

@@DIYwithUncleCy A Blue Stihl clone can hardly be passed off as a fake so I'd give some leeway to that saw if I where a dealer. I actually like the blue but respect original colors for replacement parts. The problem arises when people build the clones and put the Stihl Logo on it. That is a major No No IMHO. I love my 066 that I built but I'm fine with it being Hutzl and I will always present it as such. Chinese clones have burned many people, it's really bad in the guitar world.

Had another commenter said he had that problem and bought the replacement part from them and it was of much higher quality. It is not unusual for companies to put parts from different sources into their equipment then sell parts from yet another source, I think that may be the case here.

The brotherhood agrees.

Need a camo version!!

True but this one was actually installed improperly and so the first time I put pressure on it it stripped the cogs on the gears. The replacment has held up quite well and was identical to the one I took out. But you are correct on the plastic part failing to put propper pressure on the gears in some cases.

That is my thoughts. at 5.3 HP it has the ability to pull a pretty big milling bar.

@@DIYwithUncleCy that's a decent HP rating. My 62cc is rated at 3.2hp. 2.1hp increase with only an extra 10cc. That's a pretty damn impressive engine!

Yes. The MS440 it is cloned after is a very high compression saw. Hence why it has the compression release for starting it. I pulled it with the compression release off and nearly pulled myself over rather than the rope up LOL.

Nice one, thanks. Think I'll get one of those ordered once the festive season is done. Have a good one!

Saw looks nice but the tensioner issue would drive me crazy. Does huztl send you a replacement? How is the customer service if you have issues?

Well they both have their place. The 660 is heavier so if you are walking a ways with it the 444 would be better. If you are planning on just milling then it the 660 hands down. I use the 660 for the mill and the 444 and the 444 for felling.

@@DIYwithUncleCy Thank you

It is running fine. But the G660 will probably replace it as the milling saw. But this means I can go ahead and disable the govenor and see if it will get some serious RPMs.

@@DIYwithUncleCy If you have a failure while tinkering with the 070, Hutzl sells a piston & cylinder kit for a 090 that'll fit on it. You can up the cc's on it if something bad happens. I found it while looking for parts for my blown Husky 570. Sadly all they have for the 570 is an air filter, but since the 575 was essentially the same saw they have all kinds of goodies for that. :)

DIY with Uncle Cy i think the 105 just looks cool its like a new antique saw. how does it stack up to the G660.

I have thought of that just wasn't willing to risk it till I had another saw that could fill in if something did happen. I hope to do a Milling competition soon (when the parts on the 444 and 660 are replaced) we will see then.

@@DIYwithUncleCy I'm anticipating your saw "Mill-Off" video. It'll be funny if Old Gramp's (070) out-does the Whipper-Snappers (G444, G388, so on). :)

Honestly they are nearly identical in the hands. The 388 may be slightly heavier. Never thought about the altitude thing, next time I go out to my sisters place I will have to take a few saws and see how they perform. She lives at 8500 feet.

Well I would but am going through chemotherapy right now so makes making videos a bit difficult.

Sorry new channel. Your health is way more important

It is one i bought here in KC at a Menards. if You don't have a local Menards you can look them up and do an online order.

Still testing them but so far so good. On the carving saws I have Stihl bars so the Hotz bars don't get used quite as much.

No two separate companies. Yuzhokee only sells on eBay. And yes tensioners are one of the most common things to fail on chainsaws no matter who made them. At least they are not difficult to replace most of the time.

The 466 is about 5 cc bigger than the 444.

Chain tensioners on these saws fail, no way around it. It is a rare thing to have one fail out of the box though. And I blame myself a little on this I may not have had the Bar nuts loose enough. So I would not put too much concern on that, besides I think the replacement part from them is less than $3 plus shipping which will still be cheaper than getting a Stihl part locally. As for the mill The one I have from them is pretty solid, I will be getting it back out this spring too. And their price is right too.

Drop me an email at cythedrumguy@gmail.com Let me get some details on it and send a photo. I'd love to make the comparison.

I haven't looked into the Husky clones that they carry just yet. Was going to get a 372XP clone, but when they released the JonCutter series decided to try them out. They are Zenoah clones, Zenoah is owned by Husqvarna too. I bought the 3800 and they are sending me a 4500 to try out too. I am a little concerned about the lack of parts for these saws but have been assured by Farmertec that they plan on releasing a parts list for them as well it will just be a while before they are available.

I've got one I'll sell you I've had nothing but problems with it I'm very disappointed as it was an investment for work.

Aparently you haven't seen the other videos this is one of the best saws that I have. It was an easy fix got the part and replaced it and haven't had a problem since. Monster power in a reasonably light weight saw. So no not a junker at all.

In a single email they arranged to send me the parts for the G444. The G660 they sent after it was refused and they already knew and were sending the parts. So I have no idea what was going on in your particular case but it was certainly not the way it was for me

DIY with Uncle Cy thanks for the reply. Yeah, I really don’t know why they just blew me off. I sent them pictures of the damaged parts and they just kept making excuses instead of sending me the replacement parts. Great vids, keep it up!

Their QC has been quite good with everything they have sent me or that I have ordered. The G660 problems were due to the freight company. This is the first time I have gotten one with a problem. I have had others comment about issues that they have had, however this company has sold A LOT of saws and the complaints have been relatively few. Any newly released product is bound to have issues or there is always the possibility of a bad run of parts. To judge a company by a mistake without trying to contact them to rectify it is not a good practice. And actually I e-mailed them and sure enough the part has already been shipped. So their customer service wins the day. Out of the few Chinese companies I have gotten to deal with they seem to have one of the better QC programs. Are they perfect? No but overall they have more wins than loses I think.

Chain tensioner are a common failure on all saws once they went to side tensioners. I've had to replace them on Stihl and Husky, as well as Poulan and Tanaka. Dont really see it as a Chinese issue.

Links are in the description.

That's what I was curious about if there was a place in the states to order them. And thank you for the quick response.

And I am a huge fan of the videos that you make.

Really depends on the job needing to be done. For limbing the top handle saws are my preferred go to or a small saw like my MS171. But for felling the bigger saws are nicer and with the big saws the verdict is still out, as I have several recently acquired saws that I haven't gotten to use much. For carving I have recently been using my little Tanaka a lot but have some others ordered that ,y be replacing it for that use. SO really its hard to say what the "best" saw is.

The G372 is un available right now. I spoke with them last night (via e-mail) and instead they are sending me a Jon Cutter G4500. I also have a G255 and a G3800 on order (that I have paid for, not every saw I get is free, Darn it LOL)

Wow, I can't believe how many clone saws are available through Hutzl. They're kind of fun to see online, I just hope they don't take away from the real thing. I have the MS170, MS251C, Husqvarna 340 and 353. The Echo line of Japanese saws are great. I personally like the CS-590 Timberwolf 59.8 cc. Such a wonderful saw. Highly recommend it. I lean toward Husqvarna as a personal preference. I love chainsaw bottom line, lol!

I have been reading up on this brand of chainsaws and i like G388

Actually that was a brand new chain never touched wood before this video, so no you would be mistaken.

I understand it is a new chain, but I have researched that new chains aren't always sharp, just try it, it works.

Oh yes absolutly. which is why I sharpen any new chain to "MY" specs before use. Not all new chains come at correct angles so I check them for proper grinding angle. This one had the correct angle and the teeth that I looked at were sharpened properly. No I am well aware of this fact and check all my new chains. The wood I was cutting in this video was rock maple and it was from the base of the tree, which means a lot of swirling grain not easy for anysaw with the sharpest chain. But thank you for thinking about such things. I do appreciate the comment.

Now that I re-read your comment I realized you did mean touch up and not necessarily sharpen.

Nothing cuts like a hand filed chain.

I am not sure. I would think so. The link is in the description.

Ok i wish you merry christmas and happy new year 2019 and a lott of sadisfaction from using youre chainsaw`s good luck i also love using gas chainsaw!!!!

Ok thank you !!!!