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Fast Charging Ultracapacitors and Supercapacitors using 66.7A LED Power supply 

billywhizzy
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Here I demonstrate the method I use to charge a bank of Qty6 in series 3000F 2.7V Maxwell Ultracapacitors using an 800W 66.7A 12V LED Power supply. The challenges related to the initial charging process and the final bulk charge.
I got the LED Power supply from
www.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-l...
Thanks and enjoy!!

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@ibleed1
@ibleed1 8 лет назад
Jesus, the damn bird.
@jambormbac345
@jambormbac345 5 лет назад
Jesus is not God
@EurofighterTyphoon1976
@EurofighterTyphoon1976 7 лет назад
the parrot did not agree ;-)
@tspriggsabq
@tspriggsabq 8 лет назад
That's very cool. I love supercapacitors!
@michaelwilkes0
@michaelwilkes0 9 лет назад
You can charge your cap bank to 12v in a few seconds from a car battery, but make sure you use at least jumper cable sized wires.
@u2ooberboober
@u2ooberboober 8 лет назад
Thanks! I will use the light bulb limiter to charge my caps to 5v.
@martinwilliams7522
@martinwilliams7522 7 лет назад
You can minimise your charging time by putting a constant current circuit between your PSU and your supercapacitor bank, set to limit the current to la little less than the PSU can supply. You can do this with a simple transistor circuit using an n-channel mosfet. However, this will require good heat sinking and maybe a fan to cool it too! A much simpler way is to continue your approach with an incandescent lamp. I used 55 Watt halogen car headlight bulbs. Their resistance is low at zero volts - under 0,1 ohms, but rises to a bit over 4 ohms at full voltage. So putting a lamp in series with the capacitor will limit the current when the capacitor voltage is low (and the lamp voltage is high) but not limit it much when the capacitor voltage rises. Exactly what you want! You may have to choose a different lamp, or do as I did which was to use a number of lamps in a series - parallel arrangement to get the characteristics you want. It won't be as good as the constant current circuit, but it does approximate to a constant current circuit without requiring too much thought .I was after a cheap rugged unit that could be used 'in the field' by ordinary workmen and charged either from a car battery or mains in under five minutes. Incidentally running these lamps in a series parallel arrangement means they are all underrun which hopefully means they will last indefinitely! You might also consider buying a bench supply which allows you to set the voltage and current yo want. I recently bought a switch mode 20Amp one for about £130 which does the job a treat. It cheerfully pumps 25A into a dead short! The nicest way would be to modify your 66.7A unit to limit the current to - say - 60 Amps without triggering the overload protection. This would require some reverse engineering of your unit, and a bit of redesign and modification. I have so far been unable to get hold of a schematic for these led drivers which would make the task a lot easier!
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 7 лет назад
I usually use this system by bringing up the voltage to 5v using my lab power supply. The bulb system in series is designed to be a poor man's option. Otherwise when i need to charge quick i continue from the 800w led power supply.
@PaulinhoAlestube
@PaulinhoAlestube 7 лет назад
Could you build a bank of capacitors to use with solar panels during the day replacing batteries and provide 500 watts for lamps, computer and tv? Here in Brazil I only saw capacitors of 350 farads, how many would it take to supply these 500 watts?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 7 лет назад
100's of them in series parallel configuration. 500W is a lot of power for supercapacitors and is very expensive to run. I Can run an inverter from this set of supercaps for just 5 or 6 mins (100W) and this bank costs about USD 300
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 7 лет назад
Each one of these 3000 F Capacitors stores an equivalent amount of energy of a AA alkaline Battery. True the Super capacitor can discharge a HUGE amount of amps for a very short time over all it is equal to a AA battery (Comparing watt hours) in theory if you used a step up boost converter you could use a AA to completely charge a 3000F Capacitor at same time the AA went dead
@maliknaveedislam
@maliknaveedislam 4 года назад
Dear happy new year
@pollydor07
@pollydor07 5 лет назад
THANKS
@Shanjaq
@Shanjaq 9 лет назад
if the LED power supply is rated at lower wattage, will the starting voltage necessarily be higher?
@HLABSINC
@HLABSINC 7 лет назад
Capacitors have a linear discharge curve. The Harrison Labs (www.hlabs.com or www.hlabs.com/products/fluxpower/) FluxCap tm is a step up high current 50, 100, or 200 amp (all stackable) power supplies that make up for voltage drop in power wiring and will provide much more output from a capacitor since it will provide the full output voltage until the input drops below 11 volts! Also, perfect for dragsters that have no alternator.
@vashenkoandrey
@vashenkoandrey 8 лет назад
Hi! Could you make a test of the capacitor? Charge of up to 14.4 volts, then connect to the car lamp 55W. And measure the time for which the voltage drops to 10.8 volts.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 8 лет назад
I have done it before. it takes about 2 to 3 mins to get down to that voltage with a 55w car headlamp bulb
@vashenkoandrey
@vashenkoandrey 8 лет назад
+billywhizzy Thanks for the quick response! I just wanted to buy these, but can be bought only in China. And in China, can deceive. I need this information to compare his with yours.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 8 лет назад
+Андрей Ващенко Make sure you get Maxwell capacitors. There are unbranded chinese capacitors that are not worth the money you spend. i have many different chinese brand capacitors and they are all either overrated, the fail miserably after a short time and are not of very good construction. with the internals of the capacitor rattling inside the case.
@solarfluxman8810
@solarfluxman8810 6 лет назад
billywhizzy - Earlier in the comments I read your formula for this as : delta V/(A/F) = seconds. By my calculation it seems like it should take about 6.5 minutes. The average amps will be around 4.6 amps, since 55/12 = 4.6amps and 12 volts is close to the middle of the voltage range. The F is 3000/6 = 500F. The delta V is 14.4 - 10.8 = 3.6 volts. Plug in the numbers and I get about 391 seconds, or 6.5 minutes. Did I do it wrong?
@terryglenweaver
@terryglenweaver 2 года назад
That was one of the questions I asked.
@alejandroluna983
@alejandroluna983 5 лет назад
THE PARROT IS MAKING NOISE LIKE HIGH FREQUENCY DISTURBANCE ON THE CHARGING PROCESS JAJAJAJA FUNNY BIRD🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@tinshedeshe368
@tinshedeshe368 8 лет назад
hw do i make an adapter that can reserve power for abt 30 min after the electricity switches off
@pufarinu
@pufarinu 7 лет назад
Thank you sir ! do you have some balancing circuitry for each ultracap?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 7 лет назад
pufarinu thats right. they are the active balancing circuits provided by maxwell.
@thecapacicars9289
@thecapacicars9289 8 лет назад
Hey man, thanks for the video it's very helpful! I'm looking at charging a bank of 6 Maxwell K2 Caps and trying to acquire a power source for charging. What is the minimum current power supply you can get away with to charge the Caps?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 8 лет назад
+The Capacicars They will charge even with mA if you do not mind waiting for a dayor more. But these capacitors are capable of being charged with very high currents in a relatively small amount of time. I also have a 12V 2Watt solar panel which i have once usedand they took forever. I have created a calculator on MS Excel to calculate the time it takes to charge a certain amount of Farads with a given Current. Time in seconds= Terminal Voltage/(Charging Current in Amps/Farads of Capacitor Bank) Therefore 12V/(1A/50F)=600secs = (10 Mins)
@ryanlim2104
@ryanlim2104 8 лет назад
I'm wondering where did you get the circuit ?
@RundeKatze
@RundeKatze 9 лет назад
Maybe you could make an experiment with them. You can replace a car battery with it. Maybe you can remove the Ignition wires from your Engine and place the BoostCaps intead of your car battery. than you can try cranking the car as long as the starter no longer rotate the engine. than you should check the voltage of the boost pack. it whould be very interesting for me to know how long a car starter can work with the boost cap's.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 9 лет назад
Many people on youtube have demonstrated the replacement of car battery with ultracapacitors. I had tried this for about a week. I manged to run the starter for 20 seconds on a 1300cc petrol engine. Then the cranking slows down. However if you start a car the charge of the ultracapacitors will go up to about 14 Volts within 30 seconds. I have left the ultracaps connected to my car for a whole week (7 whole days) initial voltage was 14 Volts. After the lapse of 7 days, the voltage dropped to 10V but since ultracaps can deliver very high current without significant voltage drop, the car started immediately. A Normal cranking lead acid battery usually drops to 9V whilst starting. Then again the advantage is that in 30 seconds the ultracaps charge is back to 14volts. I do not use them for my car but as a quick way to store solar energy from solar panels. When you charge normal lead acid batteries through a charge controller they take time to charge at about 10A. I direct all the extra energy to ultracapacitors and charge them easily through solar energy from an array of panels at 1000W. In turn the solar charge controller feeds the batteries from the Ultracaps. 1 last advantage is that Ultracaps can be charged and discharged thousands of times with negligible performance loss and will last a very long time. A Car battery can only take up to 300-500 discharge cycles and they degrade in performance.
@RundeKatze
@RundeKatze 9 лет назад
Do you have any idea how i can get those boost-caps for low budget? I am living in Germany.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 9 лет назад
I'm sorry, I do not know. You will find them in the United States but expect to pay about 300 euro on ebay for a set of 6
@mathewfulton7004
@mathewfulton7004 9 лет назад
Would an inductor not work to prevent the initial high current draw? Once the transient has occurred it would act as a short, meaning the supply wouldn't cut out initially and there would be no need to remove it, or would it have to be impractically large to do any good?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 9 лет назад
Mathew Fulton To charge a bank of capacitors at 66A requires an inductor with very thick windings and probably the size of the whole capacitor bank. The bulb is way cheaper although the initial charge is slow. Best thing is to never let the bank fall below 5V so you can hook it up quickly to the LED power supply in the video.
@mathewfulton7004
@mathewfulton7004 9 лет назад
dispatcher7007 I suspected so but thought it would theoretically work :P thanks for the insight!
@bunnatang
@bunnatang 3 года назад
thanks to the power of "constant current circuit". i hope you know.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 3 года назад
You can charge those ultracapacitors at 100A. Discharge 130A @15C and 290A@40C both continuous RMS so I used the full capacity of the power supply at 12v. There was no way they could have peaked at 16.2V because the power supply was running at constant voltage.
@electricsupercarsolarionic4070
sound cool )))))))))
@terryglenweaver
@terryglenweaver 2 года назад
I have been searching for a comprehensive evaluation between lead acid batteries and a bank of capacitors of the same Amp Hour rating. It seems to me (example): a 100 Ah lead acid battery should be equal to a 100 Ah bank of capacitors with the difference being weight. Next: Why do I see capacitor users charging their capacitors independantly from their vehiches? Does this mean the vehicle's alternator (while driving) cannot recharge the capacitors? This far, I cannot find a video ditectly engaging in these comparisons.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 2 года назад
I'll be simple about this. Supercapacitors do not have anything near 100Ah in this bank of 6 cells. I would say about 1Ah in all. I can light a 60W lightbulb for about 2 minutes before ther pack voltage goes below 12V. The difference here is that Ultracapacitors are capable of delivering 2000A current at any moment. (When fully charged) Equally they can be recharged fully in seconds. If they are discharged, it is not wise to recharge in vehicle because their internal resistance is so low that the alternator cannot deliver 100A to 500A of current to charge these cells up, and they can take whatever you give them. However if fully charged and only needing some top up, this will not cause problems to the vehicle alternator. Capacity is the stoage capability of energy and whilst car batteries have a much higher capacity, ultracapacitors do not. Car batteries can be charged for about 500 full cycles and they're goners. Ultracapacitors are rated for thousands of cycles without any degradation. There is also a balance circuit on the cells to ensure that the voltage in each cell does not exceed 2.7V because that could damage the cells. In a car battery overcharging dries out each cells because the electrolyte boils, but in UC's this is dangerous. So in short, I can start a large diesel lorry with a set of UC's and they weight about 2 kilos. But you cannot sit in the lorry for an hour listening to the radio or keep the internal lights on for more than a few minutes. Some people put a bank of UC's in parallel with their Lead acid batteries to aid in cranking current when starting.
@salvatorehayes2753
@salvatorehayes2753 7 лет назад
So those balancing boards won't be damaged when charging a bank at 200amps? They just might not be able to drain the higher voltage caps fast enough correct?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 7 лет назад
In the video I charged them up to about 12.5 volts, i usually top them up to 16v on a lower current or when I see the balance board led's light up, I stop. But I have to bring the bank up to 16.2V for that to happen. The balance circuits can drain 1A from each over charged cell.
@salvatorehayes2753
@salvatorehayes2753 7 лет назад
billywhizzy ok. So Either way the balancing board won't get damaged from rapid charging they just won't help if they do start over charging right?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 7 лет назад
as always you have to keep an eye on the balance boards, once my power supply is set at 16v, CV, the amperage will creep down very quickly anyway. But it's always fully attended just in case one of the cells is of a lower voltage than they others and manages to reach the terminal voltage much quicker. These Cells are very similar in internal resistance and more or less reach the terminal voltage all together.
@landdevil
@landdevil 9 лет назад
I am a student working on a project using supercapacitors. Can you explain why the initial charging required a light bulb? I didn't understand what you said in the video. Thanks.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 9 лет назад
Ultracapacitors have an extremely low internal resistance so if you put any charger to try and charge the U Capacitors it will seem as if you are shorting the charger leads and the charger short circuit protection will cut the power off to protect the charger. Once the voltage if the U Capacitors rises to about 4 or 5 volts, the internal resistance of the UC's will be high enough to enable the charger to not see a short circuit and the charge process will proceed.
@landdevil
@landdevil 9 лет назад
Thanks a lot.
@videotruths735
@videotruths735 8 лет назад
Use nichrome wire (e.g. Constantan etc.) as a current limiter instead of light bulbs. It's dirt cheap and you can easily have any resistance for a particular need by cutting the appropriate length: 1m with 0.1 thickness is 170 Ohm, 1/2m would be 85 Ohm etc. The lower the resistance of the limiter the more efficient the charging. Power supplies are happy with very little resistance, a 55 W load is way too wasteful. I used to experiment with 0.5 Ohm 500W etc. beefy resistors but they need heatsinks and stuff. Whereas plan nichrome works the same and you can dump it in water for simple heat dissipation. Or leave it in the air, its what toasters use anyway.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 8 лет назад
+videotruths I had used nichrom wire too but the tendency to bring it closer for more current is very tempting. Thats how I marked my kitchen table with dripping nichrome wire. It would be good up to 30 or 40A but is unreasonably long at 66A and goes red hot.
@videotruths735
@videotruths735 8 лет назад
+billywhizzy I've since moved to (used) server power supplies, they cost $20 or so, can deliver 100s of amps and come from Dell, HP etc. But as far as I remember, for LED drivers I coiled the nichrome around simple carbon fibre rods (from model shops) and kept them submerged in distilled water. The heat became a non issue, the water got barely warmer.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 8 лет назад
+videotruths Good idea cooling the nichrome wire in distilled water. Will have a look at the server Power supplies. I'll have to probably hook the 12V outputs in parallel to get those Amps. Once you get those 4 or 5v into the capacitor bank, the rest is still very fast with a bank like mine.. Your idea will definitely make sense if there was a bank of a 100 of those capacitors in parallel/series configuration.
@maliknaveedislam
@maliknaveedislam 4 года назад
I have a question to ask
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 6 лет назад
Excuse my parrot :D
@DinoSabanovicRandomDCRO
@DinoSabanovicRandomDCRO 9 лет назад
Isn't better/easier to get current limiter ?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 9 лет назад
Dino Sabanovic The bulb acts as the cheapest current limiter possible. Using a buck converter (with current limiting) as a current limiter that could deliver about 10A defeats the whole concept of an easy method to overcome the low internal resistance of the ultracaps.
@suryantoyeni9326
@suryantoyeni9326 6 лет назад
after full recharge can you short these caps? to make sure there is enertgy storage .. lol
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 6 лет назад
They will discharge about 2500amps so It can make a bit of a spectacle! :D
@modysa20
@modysa20 6 лет назад
Hi. What are you using these ultracapacitors for? Where did you buy them and the balance board? And how much?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 6 лет назад
I use them to jump start Large diesel engines 5 and 7 Litre engines no problem. I also use them to store large current from solar energy to use it to charge smaller devices. I even charge them fully at 150 Amps from solar panels. I bought them used from ebay for about 300 euro including the balance boards..
@modysa20
@modysa20 6 лет назад
Hi Billy, I'm not able to find them on ebay, do you have any link.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 6 лет назад
www.ebay.com/itm/Maxwell-BCAP3000-Boostcap-Ultracapacitor-Capacitor-3000f-2-7v-NEW/263157661514?epid=2197364341&hash=item3d456b3f4a:g:mHMAAOSwFjlZtuIc
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 6 лет назад
www.ebay.com/itm/MAXWELL-650F-1200F-1500F-2000F-3000F-2-7V-Ultracapacitor-Balancing-Borad/263206675029?hash=item3d48572255:g:iy0AAOSwHaBWkGZj
@rafaellibertini9240
@rafaellibertini9240 6 лет назад
Bom dia amigo percebi q vc eh BR pelo seu azeite kkk!! Onde vc conseguiu esses capacitores?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 6 лет назад
Ebay! www.ebay.com/itm/Maxwell-BCAP3000-Boostcap-Ultracapacitor-Capacitor-3000f-2-7v-NEW/263157661514?epid=2197364341&hash=item3d456b3f4a:g:mHMAAOSwFjlZtuIc
@sciencoking
@sciencoking 5 лет назад
That's not a parrot, that's a fucking banshee
@KarolStavorkoStavCraft
@KarolStavorkoStavCraft 3 месяца назад
dear Billywhizzy, well movie! pls let me know where to buy 3 balancers for the SuperCap. I got 6 pcs of the caps. Charging w/o balancers by regulator is ok, but I would be like to follow the rules:) thx in advance. Karol
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 3 месяца назад
I bought them with the ultracaps. These were taken out of a bus and came with the balancers. However with todays BMSs for batteries like JK BMS, it will be possible I assume to balance a 6S pack with custom programming of the BMS with a bluetooth app. But you will need to send a message to JK to make sure there are no problems because of the very low internal resistance.
@Nox665
@Nox665 9 лет назад
What kind of beast do u have in that house ????
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 9 лет назад
The protagonist! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tFfNfoqb0wc.html
@Tokyo_Pessi
@Tokyo_Pessi 9 лет назад
billywhizzy thats me!!
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 8 лет назад
+billywhizzy Cockatoos are fucking loud motherfuckers As an australian I can confirm this
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 8 лет назад
+billywhizzy Cockatoos are fucking loud motherfuckers As an australian I can confirm this
@Xwozz
@Xwozz 9 лет назад
From where did you get the capactor bank?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 9 лет назад
I bought them from ebay from a seller who was breaking down a written off Electric bus. They were 1 year old on the road explaining why they are in very good condition.Voltage drop is minimal and after 10 days they will lose about 1 volt. The balance boards are active microprocessor boards by Maxwell and do a very good job of controlling overcharging.
@Dil3tt4nt
@Dil3tt4nt 9 лет назад
How much did the super capacitor pack cost off of eBay?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 9 лет назад
I got them slightly used from ebay (Spain) and had them shipped to Malta by registered post for about 300 Euro including the balance circuits. I am presently slow charging them using a PV coupled with a charge controller. I charge them at about 2A and in a couple of hours they reach 15 Volts.
@csdwellfactory6401
@csdwellfactory6401 8 лет назад
it seems that the same as our company
@user-wz8vx4mk4g
@user-wz8vx4mk4g 5 лет назад
我買500F黑色超級電容充飽2.7V不到1小時自放電為2V左右,過一天 只剩下1.5v左右在過兩天0V是個重大缺點!
@The_Unobtainium
@The_Unobtainium 6 лет назад
where did you get those caps?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 6 лет назад
From ebay. They were pulled out of an electric bus pack.
@george1on2
@george1on2 3 года назад
I have 6 super capacitors. Each are rated at 2.85 volts 3000 farads. They are completely discharged and I'm unable to charge them using a SKYRC iMAX B6 mini. I will buy a light bulb soon to try charging. What settings do I use on SKYRC iMax because mine can't be adjusted on the fly...I think? I have multiple volt settings 2V, 4V, 6V, 12V... I'm guessing 12 volt if I use a 12volt bulb. The max amps the charger is capable of is 5 amps. I'm looking to charge each super cap to 2.4 volts x 6 to equal 14.4 volts which is the voltage in my car. After I charge them to 2.4 volts each they will be assembled or is it simpler to charge the whole bank like you did. I do not have balance boards and probably do not need them because I'm not exceeding 2.85volts. After I successfully charge the capacitor a bit can I use a EVERSTART 750 Amp Jump Starter to fully charge the caps so it will be faster?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 3 года назад
On the skyrc mini B6 charge using the NiMh mode at 1.2v per cell but instead set the number of cells to 14S. Be vigilant on the voltages of each cell if you do not have an active balancing circuit to monitor the voltage in each cell. You can do this with a multimeter testing the voltage of each cell whilst charging. You are obviously limited to the maximum charging current of the B6.
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 3 года назад
Yes you can top up the voltage easily with a Lithium jump starter but if tto much currect passes through the jump starter you risk frying it's battery. It would be easier to hook the capacitor bank in parallel with a car battery in pulses when the caps are about 10V.. there will be sparks when large spikes of current are fed into the caps
@george1on2
@george1on2 3 года назад
@@billywhizzy Just bought a 6/12 volt 3 amp battery charger and 12 volt 21watt bulb. Only thing I need information on is should I charge each cap separately or the whole bank. Thank you
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 3 года назад
@@george1on2 Does your capacitor have active balancing circuitry? If yes, you can charge the whole bank at once. If no you need to carefully charge each capacitor one at a time keeping an eye on the terminal voltage of each capacitor with a multimeter.
@george1on2
@george1on2 3 года назад
@@billywhizzy I do not have balance circuitry. I will charge each cap individually per your instructions. I did not buy balance boards because I plan on charging each cap at 2.4 volts way below 2.85 volts. Thank you.
@djdaniels00
@djdaniels00 7 лет назад
You could use a vehicle alternator too, right? 6 caps in series can handle 16.2V?
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 7 лет назад
Definitely can use a vehicle alternator which is connected to a vehicle not directly since an alternator outputs AC voltage and you need DC. However, if the voltage of the series capacitor bank is close to 0v (fully discharged) it is not a good idea to hook up to a car to charge since a car alternator can only max 40-50A and that will show up to the car as a dead short due to the low impedance of the ultracaps. Besides the spark generated, the risk of blowing up your car voltage regulator is also high since it is presented with the low impedance of the ultracaps as a dead short. Yes 6 caps in series is 16.2v in total (important to make sure that each cell is properly balanced) If you need to connect to a car to charge up to 14v, make sure that the ultracap bank is no less than 12v so that the alternator/voltage regulator is not stressed out.
@alexanderlagergren6559
@alexanderlagergren6559 5 лет назад
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@craig265
@craig265 7 лет назад
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@diegoclimbing 5 лет назад
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@MICLO25
@MICLO25 8 лет назад
you have tryng discharge time , i thing is very fast
@billywhizzy
@billywhizzy 8 лет назад
it depends on the current used up. If you hook up an led it lights forever and if you drain 1000w you've got a couple of seconds. I have managed to run a tv for 10 minutes off an inverter until the inverter marked low voltage at 10.5 v
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