Fastest Charging Ever! Megawatt Charging Deep Dive w/ Atlis Energy Solutions

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0:00 - Hello & Welcome
1:17 - Equipment Tour / Facility
7:01 - Victor Atlasman - The Genus - Intro
9:30 - Atlas Advanced Connector Design
15:25 - Charging Faster Than Ever Before
24:48 - Equipment Under Load
28:24 - Charging Equipment Integrated w/ Vehicles
32:57 - Connector Thermals Under Load
34:28 - Future Public Atlis Chargers
37:14 - 1,400 Gallons Of Water To A Boil
38:33 - Megawatt Charging Is Awesome
40:00 - Tesla Model S Charging On Atlis Advanced Charger
45:02 - Inside The Charger
52:03 - Chatting With Founder, Mark Hanchett
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@KyleConner Год назад

What an experience! As I told you, I’m on the quest for the fastest, coolest, and most innovative charging solutions. Today’s visit to Atlis was truly insane and I really appreciate how open they were with you and me about their progress and technology. Hope you enjoy this deep dive, this is what I live for!

@RockyMountainTesla Год назад

Exro technologies is working on AC Fast Charging capabilities with their inverter/coil switching technology (Coil Driver). I’m still waiting to hear more on that front from them… just 17 miles from Atlis Motors 🧐

@fjalics Год назад

Fast charging a Caterpillar 793 mining truck would be epic. I wonder what kind of charging port it has?

@Dqtube Год назад

How can I put this? In the real world there is a +1MW charging solution and yes, it was filmed for RU-vid. It's certainly not as complex or elegant as this, but it exists. Gavin from the @EcotricityNZ channel filmed it a few months ago ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rj305HdU46c.html

@Crazypostman Год назад

@@Dqtube thats technically more power but it uses multiple CCS connections. this example is special because they're pumping all that juice through one connection

@Spanyrd Год назад

This was awesome to see. Thank you @KyleConner for sharing this.

@JP-sw5ho Год назад

Please include a flashlight integrated into the connector, and also chamfer the edges to make it locate into the socket more easily than ccs does

@LearningFast Год назад

One of the best videos Out of Spec has done. So much great information in this video. Definitely want to see the follow up to this video.

@float32 Год назад

Yeah, I want more factory/lab tours, all types.

@jebbait1669 Год назад

Victor is the perfect employee. He loves his job and is enthusiastic.

@berthogendoorn2133 Год назад

Kyle, wow , my background as a Electronics Technician also certified Litton Industrial Microwave Technician, truly awesome to see this bleeding edge of high power DC charging, what can I say I am speechless!

@abd4620 Год назад

When I first saw the length of this video, I thought to myself I'll just skip through. 1 hour later I've watched it all not skipping a single minute. Great content. Thanks for the Out of Spec team, and for Atlis that gave us this opportunity!

@jjayguy23 Год назад

People like you are gonna really keep the EV companies in line! Great work! Stay on it!!!!!

@Smidge204 Год назад

Handle is good for the connector, especially if there's substantial insertion force. Less chance of wrist fatigue or injury from putting force on the joints at a strange angle. It would also be easier to grip if you can wrap your fingers around it, especially with smaller hands. As for the stations themselves, I like the demo unit setup that keeps the cable off the ground. Probably something like a tall pole with a swing arm so the cable isn't dragging or getting run over.

@fatmanchew909 Год назад

I agree with adding the handle. The grip is smaller so when you're charging in the snow or the cold and have gloves on it's a bit harder to grip the charger.

@clantigua1 Год назад

This is one of the most exciting things I have seen on RU-vid :p Atlas rocks!!!

@makofoto Год назад

Decades ago we were filming a commercial in Mexico City, at their large studio. We needed to warm up a prop Jacuzzi, quickly. So the studio electricians took a 2X4, nail on either end, wrapped with bare wire, and plugged it into the Mains at the wall panel. Dropped it into the spa, and told everyone to Step Back. They threw the large, old fashion “Frankenstein” switch, and the water instantly started to boil! It only took a few seconds for it to get to a comfortable temperature for our models. :-)

@brianb5723 Год назад

#HandleGang! Kyle, you're becoming a pioneeer in the world of EVs! Thank you for your efforts! Have you ever thought of lobbying in DC? You may be able to help us change these archaic laws which favor fossil fuels!

@sparkysho-ze7nm 3 месяца назад

Here comes quality information w/great camera work

@Kyzyl_Tuva Год назад

Kyle, thank you so much for this. I have one word: WOW!

@MachE_VLOG Год назад

This was so much fun to watch and I can't wait to see more stuff from Atlis!

@samuelweiner5382 Год назад

I have to admit that this is over my head, but I am glad to which videos like this one. That is how I will learn about how this all works. Kyle I love your enthusiasm.

@davidbaker9943 Год назад

Don’t worry once you have time it’s not that complicated. Just becomes super cool!

@eagleflight06 Год назад

Absolutely loved this video! Super interesting to get a behind the scenes look, would love to see more videos like this!

@ghosttesla Год назад

This was impressive guys. Good work

@mikehc6159 Год назад

Glad I bought megawatts of AMV stock years ago! (before they fully went public)

@timoliver8940 Год назад

In 2001 I was involved with load testing 6 huge marine generators the same way - 6MWish……….. generators were connected up to 6 x 40ft half height shipping containers full of water. All tested fine, miles of huge cables disconnected and removed (no body was allowed into the main machinery space during the test btw) BUT after the half height containers had been drained and lifted off the hatch c overs for the ship we found that there were 6 x 40ft areas of bare steel under the test units…….. basically we had dissolved all the protective galvanising off 3 massive 30t steel hatch covers! We also had to have the ship’s magnetic compass re-swung and adjusted because the ship’s magnetism had changed drastically during the load testing!

@josedelacruz256 Год назад

This is one of the coolest videos I have recently seen. Very exciting!

@christophersiano969 Год назад

Thank you for this look behind the curtain

@FthePump Год назад

Long one, but really informative! Great job!

@iljapetroff Год назад

So a typical Nuclear Reactor output is 1500MWe, which means it can only power 1500 charges like this... then you need to deliver this power over the grid.. I just do not see this happening in the next 50 years or so..

@Crazypostman Год назад

Micro-nuclear reactor on site!!! Forget battery storage!

@scottbursch3324 Год назад

Love that you did this video. I’ve beloved in what ATLIS is doing for a couple years now. I’ve invested in them early on and as much as I love their video I have not seen anything nearly as in depth as your video. Nice work, keep it coming. Thank you

@23dwalk Год назад

This is awesome!! Atlis really came a long way.

@PhotoHoag Год назад

Awesome video highlight of Atlis. Love the excitement

@GregHassler Год назад

34:12 props to Alyssa for filming this whole thing by hand on a phone!

@TechnicalLee Год назад

Anna not Alyssa.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 3 месяца назад

True trooper champ

@trzarector Год назад

I’ve been watching atlis and the dev of their truck for a while, I wish them nothing but the best of luck with their endeavours. Amazing stuff.

@lewiscross7603 Год назад

This was truly amazing to see. Can’t wait to see real world applications implemented plus there should be automotive manufacturers prototype vehicles testing in there facilities already.

@Jeddin Год назад

I wish them luck. But I’m confused because they seem like very smart people familiar with their field but even as a layperson outsider I can see that charIN is finalizing the MCS standard and there is no chance that a proprietary charger from a small company will ever have a chance. Continuing work on their own connector seems like wasted resources and engineering time that could be better directed at their other projects.

@perfev Год назад

Very cool stuff! The part with Mark at the end was also really interesting.

@BaddoggMS Год назад

Scoreboard is a good idea, but it’d be nice to have remaining charge time displayed so if charger is full you can get in line behind the vehicle that’ll be done first. Not quite sure if it should display time to resume trip like a Tesla or time to set limit should be displayed, maybe both but that’s a lot of information for a quick reference board.

@jeffmangelsr.1109 Год назад

What a very interesting video a glimpse into the future

@JoeSimonsen Год назад

I'm struck by the scale of all that's needed to power and cool this kind of system. Right now it seems like an almost comical amount of power needed. To run one of these in the real world you would probably need your own substation for each unit, which seems like a large barrier to mass adoption. Still, this gives a sense of where EV chargers and cars are going. It's likely all these problems will be solved eventually and the grid will scale to allow locations for megawatt charging in the near future. Imagine the ev market share when the cars can charge as fast or faster than a gas/diesel truck can refill.

@Jhawk376 Год назад

The demand charges of megawatt charging will never make megawatt charging a profitable endeavor. Most utilities have a $5-$15 per kW demand charge. It could cost up to $5,000 - $15,000 a month just in demand charges. Say you only have 60 vehicles get a full charge of 60 kWh at a max of 1mW. You’d had to charge $2.77 per kWh just to cover the demand charges. Compared to gas, that would be like driving a 4 mile per gallon car cost wise.

@GregHassler Год назад

@@Jhawk376 the concept of demand pricing will eventually phase out.

@JoeSimonsen Год назад

@@Jhawk376 Thats a solid point for the near future I hadn't considered. I sometimes wonder if a better solution is grid charging batteries that themselves can send energy faster to cars that come in to charge. In theory you won't have peak charger 24/7 so there is time at night or off hours to charge onsite storage that ca be used when demand is needed. I think I saw this in another one of his videos too.

@JamesOliverLindsey Год назад

main users will probably be semi trucks. maybe a few other vehicles that can handle it will be able to stop by or something.

@JamesOliverLindsey Год назад

@@JoeSimonsen I think Kyle showcased this already. for places that are a bit more removed they keep some batteries charged to allow for higher rates without needing infrastructure.

@drewstone77 Год назад

Possibly the coolest(nerdiest) video i've seen, as far as charging, thx Kyle. the future is so bright, i need shades 😎

@DoubleCTech Год назад

Not sure I agree with the car and charger communicating wirelessly but this is impressive. I love how small the connector.

@yolo_burrito Год назад

This is crazy interesting. I volunteer on my City Electric Utility advisory board and we fluctuate from 40Mw base load to about 100Mw peak. That’s about 50,000 population plus business.

@LearningFast Год назад

1.21 JigaWatts! 1.21 JigaWatts!

@omartin30 Год назад

very promising ... the future looks bright!

@kyleyork92 Год назад

Very interesting video! Did get slight QVC vibes 😂

@fleecystheking Год назад

Great! Now bring all of that stuff up here in Quebec during a cold winter night and make it work at the same speeds please!

@Crazypostman Год назад

I think the dispensers should be something similar to Kempower stations. skinny pedestal with a place for the handle and card reader with the cable going up high and extending out on a movable pole or spring so you can get front charge port and back charge ports.

@desertdan100 Год назад

As an original investor, I appreciate how you guys have been transparent on this journey and listened to the people. I vote that you need that handle. You should leave enough area to grip the body with your other hand if need be. I also think that you need to make sure that there is a fix point or hanging point. It might be beneficial to have an overhead retractable cable to both support the weight of a cord and to help keep it off of the ground or swung out of the way.

@GregHassler Год назад

This is amazing.

@theredmonkey Год назад

This was a great video, I loved seeing the early development and could see the excitement. I would like to see wired communication for reliability vs wireless communication in a charging setup for a vehicle. Maybe Atlus can help improve the cable situation on current chargers. The drop in place would be great for disaster areas, roll the cabinet up with batteries, solar and generators to help in emergencies in the future. I wonder what Weights and Measures in states with say about no screen? That's a problem in the EU for their regulatory body.

@OtisFlint Год назад

This is super cool and might have an application in semis and heavy equipment, but as far as a normal auto sized battery, it seems useless. We can't even put 150kw into them for very long without cooking the current batteries.

@bryanwhelan9375 Год назад

I like the handle!

@Chris-ew9mh Год назад

Proceeds to poke the screwdriver into the service panel... jaw dropped! Still, this is great that they are pushing the limits of these charging systems. 👍

@walterrumohr7090 Год назад

Good luck guys.

@simonthebroken9691 Год назад

It's below zero at my home. Been there for 24 hours. It NEEDS to work below zero for two weeks straight. That happens once a year in North Dakota.

@gradyluyt6998 Год назад

I love the confidence in their equipment to just keep pushing it. Obviously, I’m sure they’ve been doing private testing and were confident it would perform but the confidence is contagious.

@evanharris5088 Год назад

Very interesting technology.

@ThatGrizzlyGuy Год назад

“Drop in solution “ sounds like hope for a future defense contract.

@darkairieal Год назад

100%%%

@leroi5342 Год назад

Those wheels look great on Model Plaid 😍

@DonaldTripp Год назад

Definitely need a handle, right now I quite often have a phone in my hand while initiating the session and a handle would make it much easier to plug in with one hand. I envision a gas station like concept so a vehicle can pull in either the left or right or front or wherever it’s charge port is. Make a few stations that are longer like RV/Semi pumps for pull thru with trailers. Have a board that shows status of all the stations so you can see when pulling in what’s online, what’s in use, and be able to pick what fits your need. Red light green light status with a phone app, as Kyle said one kiosk for those who need to swipe a card and don’t have a phone app. Semi fuel stations do something similar with cardlocks.

@mo0seboy Год назад

Definitely go with the handle.

@joen5000 Год назад

The white charger with an external handle is definitely the better choice for the connector. Not everyone has large hands that can handle a large diameter connector. It could also slip in rain and snow. The one with the external handle is absolutely much easier to handle in all situations. Just make it of rigid and unbreakable materials. It would be best, if you include some metallic stripe in it, so that if it weakens in hot climates, and the plastics break, the handle doesn't, and it can still be used until it is exchanged.

@precisionc3656 Год назад

It’s really a vehicle limit and with that the cooling on the batteries that’s throttling today. On my truck the time I can actually take 200kw plus in my charge curve is pretty short.

@Jhawk376 Год назад

I’d like to see you cover how utility demand charges will effect if megawatt charging will ever be a thing.

@MrJoegotbored Год назад

I like that they're so confident in their tech that they're willing to show it off outside of sanitary, big network conditions. This could still be faked but I'm not getting that impression here. Hopefully Atlis and others like it succeed!

@raemill4089 Год назад

Although this is a crazy awesome proof of concept, it seems to me anyway, that it would be easier/simpler to evolve the battery tech to charge faster than to have the infrastructure in place to support a massive rollout of something like this.

@stefanmosiek3873 Год назад

Dam fantastic video. Wish u would have showed the teslas state of charge at the end

@slodose Год назад

Atlis Energy Solutions is the real deal!

@kastrosiete Год назад

Proud atlis investor here 🙋‍♂️. Make sure to invest!

@mujjuman Год назад

ur black model is looks amazing

@NascarAllOut Год назад

I just read the companies PR about their megawatt charging and the same day you are making a video about it. Kyle is in the know. The press release didn't really wow investors though, stock was actually down for the day.

@concinnus Год назад

Ideally, the breaker boxes and dispenser should be inset into the sides so the overall dimensions are just those of the container. Hopefully the current setup is just a prototype layout.

@ZXgV1000 Год назад

We need charging stations that support towing, the design doesn't matter to me, but the stations that support people who are towing does. Also the chargers shouldn't be too far from the highway.

@electricar9 Год назад

First ones should be installed at existing Truck Stops like Pilot/Flying J, Love's, TA/Petro, etc.

@LaJuanHughes Год назад

Tesla has some now.

@scott6285 Год назад

As Atlis is making a truck, they have always planned on installing their charging stations along highways and to provide room for trailers. The plan I read is their chargers will be pull through.

@UNLOCKsilo Год назад

Excited to charge lol

@user-tx9zg5mz5p Год назад

Where's the truck 🤣

@jeffs6090 Год назад

30:40 I'd like to see the future of charging to be wireless embedded in the streets and parking lots.

@paulcm2 Год назад

I watched your review on the Nissan Leaf that you got for yourself. I got one myself mainly because I could not afford any other bev. Lol

@mtnman1984 Год назад

Handle on the connector, but the handle supports on the prototype look like they'll easily be broken. The disregard people have for the charge handles in the real world is nuts and these things need to be extremely durable.

@godofdun Год назад

Crazy to think this is happening 2 miles from my friends house and within walking distance of an Arby's lol

@mxc2007 Год назад

100% with a handle!

@Shelbyj13 Год назад

Doc Brown "Hold my beer" 😁

@ericcindycrowder7482 Год назад

With wireless communication, in theory the vehicle can start to handshake with the charger BEFORE the plug is inserted into the vehicle. But I would very much worry about environmental RF interference from nearby radio sources causing problems with the charging communications.

@AgentOffice Год назад

It's NFC has to touch

@Yanquetino Год назад

That kind of power is… cray cray! I wonder who will release the first vehicle capable of swallowing that much juice? Probably won't see it for many years to come.

@Superman-xr1oh Год назад

10 years atleast.

@arlenbell4376 Год назад

Waiting for super capacitors that can power cars!

@berthogendoorn2133 Год назад

I would like to know how Atlis will test their EV charger in various temperature ranges to prevent the issues associated with EA's massif charger fail during the CO cold a few weeks ago!

@Sophia-vk5bq Год назад

I'm wondering if idle stations would be in danger of having the water cooling freeze if it gets cold enough.

@TalismanPHX Год назад

Now, we need a power grid from the public utilities to reliably power these mega chargers, and some BIG Palos Verde size nuclear-power generation stations for enough juice. ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

@Yachtzeee Год назад

This is great stuff Kyle! Can I borrow this machine to Sous Vide some steaks? Im having a party!

@KaceyGreen Год назад

seems like time for a three-way collab between you, Atlas, and Pepsi, will need an MCS2 connector unless Tesla has started shipping them with NACS recently

@ShawnGBR Год назад

Another vote for Team Handle (10:30 in). When it's cold and wet, you need something that is ergonomic; maybe has a rubber-like exterior that doesn't slip, textured to maximize the amount of contact with your grip. You can get "grip tape" from Grainger or ULINE or a thousand places online, it's used for adding more grip to SLR cameras / pistols / hammers, anything you hold a lot and want to make sure it's not likely to slip out of your hands. That, but embedded into the design. At 23:00 they're looking at doing a modern 77kWh car from 10 to 80% in well under 3 minutes. You're competing with ICE vehicles.

@abraxastulammo9940 Год назад

Won't it keel the battery?

@Superman-xr1oh Год назад

I'm not so sure going from 10 to 80% in 3 minutes is very good for the health of the battery...

@johnodell5310 Год назад

@Abraxas Tulammo Depends on the design and chemistry of the battery. In the future, batteries will be almost indestructible!

@Antiguan_Dart Год назад

@@Superman-xr1oh a circa 77KWh battery charged from 10-80% in 3 minutes !- no current commercial car battery management system (BMS) would allow the vehicle battery to be charged in that fashion as indeed the battery would be wrecked- which is why Atlis mentioned they are looking into creating their own batteries and BMS.

@bob-qi4nr Год назад

@@johnodell5310 In the future we will be in flying cars. In the future Scotty will just beam me up. Not going to happen. Wake up

@ILikeMetricMusic Год назад

Atlis: I think the handle would make it easier to handle. Can’t wait to see what the future of Atlis does.

@woodshop2300 Год назад

I like the score board idea maybe under a canopy. I like the idea of replicating the Germany places with you get the trickle and a central kiosk. I don't like the cloud reliance at all what so ever.

@Snerdles Год назад

Canada does charge by time and not by power too. It's so frustrating. Measures Canada has apparently made rules changes to allow for per KW but no chargers work that way yet.

@gethecar Год назад

our electric cost are going to go through the roof with all this power us.

@steveyoung8376 Год назад

will the cyber truck be available with MW charging?or tesla semi . Is this DC to DC charging

@georgecostanza2695 Год назад

Definitely handle @ 10:20. For something that big, I’d say put one on top too and have two handles.

@ehsanahmad9712 Год назад

A 100 KW solar array may trickle charge the battery bank( 2 days). A 200 KW array would do that faster (5-8 hours). You don't need a megawatt of power everyday. So, a 200 or 250 KW solar array would be optimum. The generators would only serve as a back up in times of need. The grid would also help with a 100 or 200 KW. Also a megawatt charger would charge 14-16 vehicles at a time. And 4 to 5 simultaneously at a high speed.

@timgurr1876 Год назад

As a retired electrical engineer working in the genset business, I don’t think you have any concept on the amount of “energy” in 1 Megawatt of power. The expansion of the electrical transmission network to handle a station of several 1 MW chargers will be horrendously expensive. That will lead to higher electricity prices. The existing transmission network in the USA needs a lot of updates and replacements to handle the ever increasing needs for electricity. That’s not going to happen overnight or even in a few years. I don’t think I want to be plugging my EV (assuming I ever have one) into equipment capable of 1 MW power flow. To me 250kW is too dangerous to be around. If there is ever a failure , it’s going to be like the “big bang”.

@Superman-xr1oh Год назад

Yeah, this charging system is a one off demonstration. It isn't ever going into mass production.

@GregHassler Год назад

How long have you been retired? Getting megawatt+ power drops just isn't that hard nowadays. Look at the rapid expansion of the supercharger network for one, the explosion of Bitcoin processors, and data centers everywhere. Projects take some time for planning and acquisition of transformers, but there are no fundamental obstacles to this. US infrastructure is continually upgrading as it has been for over 70 years. Capacity is 6 times what it was in the 60's, adding some charging capacity for EVs will only be another 20% expansion over today's levels.

@aware2action Год назад

Very Interesting approach 👍. Definitely need a battery pack with superior thermal conduction. The only question is where is the energy coming from? Unless it comes from a local nuclear power or Alternative energy forms, it will eventually be limited by grid power. Definitely a good alternative for high availability EV charging infrastructure. Most probable application is for EVSemi charging. Hope they are not in the game to just soakup the govt. incentives for EV infrastructure. Just some 💭.

@benhillard919 Год назад

Looks like that Dashboard is built with Grafana which is neat. While I watch the video, my first thought is the idea to eventually make this atlis charger an open standard and just pave the way or would everyone who wants to implement this charger have to go through atlis?

@NxuInc Год назад

Great question! The idea is to create the new standard of charging and charging infrastructure. For more details, check out Victor's video on our channel, here: ru-vid.com/show-UCxhqxplXfB5jcWbdYIgWXBA