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Fat Shark / Walksnail FPV firmware 23.23.4 sample footage 

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@MrIndyjonescj
@MrIndyjonescj Год назад
Thank you Joshua! I'm going to hold off until they get things looking better. I'm tired of being an FPV guinea pig for these companies. I bought DJI V1 FPV goggles just before the V2 was rumored to be coming. Then I bought Shark Byte full system from Getfpv, then nothing but crickets for a bit. Then out of nowhere came HDZero. Doesn't seem that great with exception to latency. I purchased Skyzone 04X analog goggles when they came out. Not more than a month later they came out with 04X with OLED screens (I would have waited and bought those if I knew they were coming). Now Fatshark Dominator Avatar. And it doesn't seem to have been ready for retail sales. Just wait, the Dominator Avatar V2 will come out soon abandoning all of the original Avatar Dominator owners. All of these companies with exception to DJI maybe, are releasing product before it's worked out bugs that it shouldn't have when ready for retail sales. We "Die Hard Enthusiasts" want to support the FPV companies to further develope the Hobby. However, I myself am sick of paying several hundreds of $$$'s for products that end up discontinued and or obsolete. I think consumers should get a valuable single use discount code when purchasing these types of items...JMO. Thanks again. Have a great day!
@Asher-99
@Asher-99 Год назад
I would encourage you to look into the story behind HdZero. I've been running it since the sharkbyte days and I can honestly say that the 1 Watt VTX has given me better range with way better picture than I ever had on my analog rigs.
@aphinion
@aphinion Год назад
Amen. I'm sticking with analog for the time being. People fly it for 8+ years, it's rock solid and just works with all of my quads. DJI looked kinda nice but now feels like a total waste of money, given none of the new systems is compatible to Dji. And at the end of the day I care what the action cam records - I enjoy flying with analog and it's good enough for my eyes and in many ways (break up, recovery, penetration through heavy leafed trees, latency) better than DJI. My existing DJI quads will turn into Bando Bashers with full protection - croncrete is the one place they really thrive in comparison. And I just hope HDZ googles will be great and the transmission improves in range, penetration and general reliability. Let's see!
@dougsisk619
@dougsisk619 Год назад
Nice smooth flying JB. It's been cool watching you progress as a pilot over the years.
@travisSimon365
@travisSimon365 Год назад
Every once in a while the video still has a bit of an analogue feel to it. I don't know how to describe it, but it just looks like 'the worlds most amazing analogue video' . I think it's the camera - it gets a hint of a blue tinge when light washes across the lens. Regardless, I agree - it looks great, and much improved. I'm looking forward to seeing a 50mb vid/comparison.
@dpxfpv
@dpxfpv Год назад
I think its the camera. DJI just has much better color range and sharper lens.
@JThemelis
@JThemelis Год назад
I'm sort of there with you... akin to using Skyzone 04X with a rapidfire receiver - SO SO good for analog, maybe this is a little more clean. It looks great, it's improved since we first saw it, it's going to be a REAL pain point for people coming into the hobby looking at digital setups that are all very similar! (at least, to me, they're all similar, maybe dji is a bit more refined considering how long it's history)
@tome1271
@tome1271 Год назад
Bardwell that matty was sick! Your flying is lot better than what i remember
@johnvodopija1743
@johnvodopija1743 Год назад
This system looks very promising. It’s an exciting time to be into FPV where the options are increasing. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Год назад
Pretty fantastic flying, Joshua! 😃 Yeah, this system is getting better and better! As more competition in the market... The better for us! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@deroskar
@deroskar Год назад
i find yor comment under every fpv video lol
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Год назад
@@deroskar Well... I don't watch it all, there are some channels I can't stand. 😬 But yeah, I watch a lot of them. For some reason they help with my depression (and unfortunately I can't always fly myself...).
@willpowerfpv3246
@willpowerfpv3246 Год назад
Nice review, JB! I appreciate you're dedication..💪
@SueMyChin
@SueMyChin Год назад
Not changing from DJI anytime soon but this looks really positive :)
@brendanzaebst9011
@brendanzaebst9011 Год назад
Gorgeous video ! Thanks for testing. Sorry I missed you this weekend. I tried to let Jes know if you needed some spots I live in a private community out in the sticks. Great video as always JB
@WDZaphod
@WDZaphod Год назад
Much better now, this looks really promising!
@Raven187FPV
@Raven187FPV Год назад
Cheers for being on the case JB.
@quadspeedfpv
@quadspeedfpv Год назад
Love your content Josh thanks for all your contributions to the RC community
@mudkipz3213
@mudkipz3213 Год назад
This is great to see. They’re making improvements all the time, as well as working on its short comings. I cannot wait to see what it will be like in the next firmware update as this entire system improves and becomes a better alternative against DJI
@FlyZoneFpv
@FlyZoneFpv Год назад
Nice test video as always brother @JB👊🏻
@d4ro
@d4ro Год назад
Thank you mr bard for this beautiful video and squecky comment, the presented system looks desirable. ❤
@nikodelrey
@nikodelrey Год назад
Great video! I'd like to see a penetration test in comparison to DJI. Parking ramp, perhaps.
@Enlamentedeunchallenger
@Enlamentedeunchallenger Год назад
I bought it 3 days ago and reading this tittle cant make me happier, as you said in another video: "getting new fatshark goggles is like a betting", so I decided to bet and as I can see I won, cant wit to receive it and start to use it. Also, nice video, as usual, thank you for keeping us updated!
@originafreerangechicken
@originafreerangechicken Год назад
Definitely good enough but fragile VTXs is an absolute show stopper. I bet, by this time next year, the WalkSnail system will be a real option for most. I can’t wait for HDZero and V3 so the real competition can begin. Thanks Joshua.
@inikobmore30
@inikobmore30 Год назад
Man u hitting them loops like a champ..
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Год назад
It seems like not everybody is having a great experience on this firmware. What you see in this video reflects my experience with the system. Before you draw any conclusions, definitely check out Mads Tech video to see his experience! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bvP1hVxJSeI.html&ab_channel=Mad%27sTech One difference is, Mads Tech seems to be flying a nano cam while I'm flying a micro. We have seen performance differences between these cameras on the FS/WS system before, although we don't have confirmation yet whether that's causing this difference today.
@MariomasterNSMBHD
@MariomasterNSMBHD Год назад
Seems like you forgot to pin this :)
@thfpv4974
@thfpv4974 Год назад
Definitely looking better 🤯🤯🤯
@DroneViewPoland
@DroneViewPoland Год назад
Looks really promising 😀thanks 👍
@jeremykelley9054
@jeremykelley9054 Год назад
So many comments about DJI versus this product got me thinking. The one thing I can’t believe is that I missed all of you coming to Portland dang it maybe next time. I still fly analog, would have been nice to see through the goggles first hand. Love the videos, stay strong as a pillar in the Fpv community with knowledge Of all things Fpv. Cheers
@dkieng
@dkieng Год назад
Thanks for sharing bud, I'm running the latest firmware as well. So I smoked 1 VTX already, ouch!! Now I connected the VTX to a 12V @ 1.5A BEC instead of connect it directly to the VBAT pad on the FC. I hope that won't smoke any more of the VTX.
@GrauFPV
@GrauFPV Год назад
In a year and a half I have not killed even one vista…walksnail can kick rocks
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад
Is it because of the lack of overheat protection? In texas right now we’re averaging 107deg. I’d imagine this thing would struggle in this kind of heat if it didn’t shutdown after a certain point
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
@@GrauFPV Have you heard of anyone that has? I haven't even heard of a naked Vista failing!
@GrauFPV
@GrauFPV Год назад
@@KOrnhOliO1 only when stripped and made naked. Those are the only dead ones I’ve ever seen
@mikaelbackstrom
@mikaelbackstrom Год назад
Starting to look great. :)
@Dav2112
@Dav2112 Год назад
Image quality is looking real nice.
@sganzerlag
@sganzerlag Год назад
Looks great!
@volkergoe
@volkergoe Год назад
Looks promising! The only thing holding me back from getting a unit for testing is the lack off a 20mm VTX.
@jimmytheriot8978
@jimmytheriot8978 Год назад
Check out my homemade fpv cockpit with the dji system and fatshark system hooked to it like share and SUBSCRIBE
@terpsquirter7107
@terpsquirter7107 Год назад
Just wait for DJIs v3
@volkergoe
@volkergoe Год назад
@@terpsquirter7107 I'm curious what they will come up with!
@MeshJedi
@MeshJedi Год назад
@@terpsquirter7107 the problem is that it'll be abandoned when the v4 comes along instead of being fully compatible.
@runpuppyfpv5744
@runpuppyfpv5744 Год назад
I gotta say that does look a lot better
@odyss160
@odyss160 Год назад
so acknowledging the update issue last in this video is absurd, well at least it was mentioned
@razzreal_fpv
@razzreal_fpv Год назад
Now THIS update really does look better, especially compared to the last update.
@matuka3755
@matuka3755 Год назад
It's wonderful to see this option maturing; but the lack of goggle support for custom lens inserts (unless I'm mistaken?) remains a pathological deficiency for the astigmatic segment.
@kwaaaa
@kwaaaa Год назад
Did you find any major difference between running it low mW versus high mW when the range shouldn't affect it? (ie. does the power mode have weird issues at the higher power side)
@nbchowning
@nbchowning Год назад
I noticed some stuttering in the video - like dropped frames or something. Glad to see they're they're making progress so quickly. Once a VRX module comes out and the VTX durability issues are better, I might make the switch.
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
good eye! quite often actually if we really look closely.
@JThemelis
@JThemelis Год назад
This is great news, and hopefully will eventually reduce the cost of entry for newcomers. In the hobby for a year, just in February boarded the DJI V2 bus and have been totally satisfied with it, like most folks. That said, I'm not dropping my setup to step to the side to grab these - but if i was a newcomer to the hobby NOW there would be even MORE decisions to make. Just over the last year, we saw amazing improvements in Analog goggles, ELRS, the Digital Quad space is growing, TBS seemingly slow down but then ramp up - I hope these developments dont lose steam and advance too quickly. If there's an interest in FPV, now is a good time be in it. From a guy who certainly does NOT know it all :)
@zuldanfpv4634
@zuldanfpv4634 Год назад
Very tempting to pull the trigger on Walksnail but I’m going to wait for the HDZero 1080p cams to be released (coming after the HDZero Goggles release). If HDZero 1080p looks similar to DJI 720p but with much better latency then I’m pulling the trigger on HDZero.
@MeshJedi
@MeshJedi Год назад
Not sure how hdzero would get better by increasing the resolution they transmit when they can't even transmit clear pixels are 720 but a noisy image that's closer to 320 at best.
@junkheadrc7397
@junkheadrc7397 Год назад
When are the hd zero goggles released?
@MJ-bj1gn
@MJ-bj1gn Год назад
Awesome 👏
@ndcapper
@ndcapper Год назад
So much better looking than day 1
@funnflyers6894
@funnflyers6894 Год назад
Analog for the win
@nonsequitor
@nonsequitor Год назад
Good call re RU-vid bitrate! It'd bust me down to 1080p and switching to 2160p made a huge difference....🙏👍
@windowwasherfpv3485
@windowwasherfpv3485 Год назад
I’ll buya pair here soon I love the way the goggles fit and the 16:9 screen looks like my HD3 goggles me personally I hated the DJI screen
@Matty__Matt
@Matty__Matt Год назад
This looks way way better than the release firmware and the update they had prior to this one. Since I don't have a system if they keep this up id be willing to buy their system or at least continue to monitor it!
@AerialWaviator
@AerialWaviator Год назад
The Fat Shark / Walksnail FPV system seems to have a compression issue with certain shades of green (lighter green-yellow of grasses, vs. darker greens on pine trees, darker leaf plants). eg: see the blotches from 2:58, 3:41 Greys and browns seem to be less blurry, blotchy. (eg: concrete, tree trunks) The shade of color seems to have a strong correlation, as much or more so than the level of detail in that part of a image scene.
@mikebergman1817
@mikebergman1817 Год назад
Thanks for the video JB. Great flying! It looks pretty good! Chris Teal popped a vtx by plugging in an HV 6s pack😬 that’s kind of annoying. Along with the goggles only being 5s capable. And the 25mm mounting. It does look really good though.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Год назад
You can't criticize the vTX for popping if you exceeded it's rated voltage....
@mikebergman1817
@mikebergman1817 Год назад
@@JoshuaBardwell I was wrong. It was charged to 25.5. Which is still above the rated voltage. It's kind of a drag that they couldn't be rated to 26.4 like the vista. I can see a lot of these having issues from voltage spikes, especially if they're sensitive to .3v overvoltage. Makes me think of Blunty's rant on reverse polarity protection. I wonder if these have reverse polarity protection?
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад
Looks good.....
@marzyfpv6550
@marzyfpv6550 Год назад
Yo Joshy boi! Love all your ontent bro! you fixed all my problems and got me flying haha
@vince086
@vince086 Год назад
Definitely interested but the price needs to come down a bit. At the moment the goggles alone are £600 (no camera or even antennas for that price!)
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад
It’s 2022 it ain’t coming down and don’t be surprised if it actually goes up by 2023. The current inflation that has no visible ceiling right now folks need to realize this fact and prioritize their budget.
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
my friend sold his least favorite analog gear and was able to buy digital goggles with digital quads too!
@MeshJedi
@MeshJedi Год назад
@@creationlabsinc.189 prices are going down due to the end of the silicone shortage which impacts prices on electronics more than inflation. Look at gpu's
@trebor1477
@trebor1477 Год назад
Oh, one good thing about DJI. You can still fly analog with them. And yes now thibgs look better. But lets wait and see where things will go. But the prize dji v2 for450€ new and bundle air unit for 174€ and vista nebula pro for 145€. Come on fatshark!
@ReggieRailSystems
@ReggieRailSystems Год назад
Joshua, has the "range distance" improved vs what it was before the software upgrade? I'd like to see it on your multi level parking lot demo.
@spinderkfpv3169
@spinderkfpv3169 Год назад
hello I wanted to ask you a question, I wanted to know if there is a difference between the hdo3 glasses model or the walksnail I see that it changes that one is fatshark and another is walksnail and I don't know which one to buy if whites or blacks
@Inva433
@Inva433 Год назад
Hi, it's a bit off topic but have you heard about WTFos ? It allow to use canvas mod on DJI Goggles and it works fine.
@bastienjbn9224
@bastienjbn9224 Год назад
This video convinced me to go digital with avatar system ! Really looks like dji on video at least. Very promising for a first product. 😉 🇨🇵
@testpilotian3188
@testpilotian3188 Год назад
I’d be happy owning it…. If I hadn’t already bought the DJI system 2 years ago. If Fatshark would do a trade in deal like TBS did with R9 to get people onto Crossfire, then maybe I’d be interested….
@MysteryD
@MysteryD Год назад
It's worth mentioning that for $600 you don't get any antennas for the goggles, nor do you get a battery to power them.
@willpowerfpv3246
@willpowerfpv3246 Год назад
The walksnail version DOES come with antennas, but the fatshark's do not. And with all fairness, DJI are literally the only premium goggles that come with a battery and antennas (skyzone 04X have 2 garbage rubber ducky antennas, but they're terrible and need immediate replacement anyway)
@MysteryD
@MysteryD Год назад
@@willpowerfpv3246 I didn't know that about the walksnail version. Good to know. Regardless, when comparing dji v2 vs fatshark Dom HD, the scales are tipped toward dji in terms of value for the money on this one. Not including the even a cheap set of antenna for these particular goggles was a huge misstep if you ask me.
@seanconnolly2179
@seanconnolly2179 Год назад
Looks good, I’m holding off for an external module 👍
@TomicaCZ
@TomicaCZ Год назад
That's good point... I love to fly my tinywhoops around the house and I don't want 2 sets of goggles and there is no way those tiny beasts could lift digital vtx :(
@seanconnolly2179
@seanconnolly2179 Год назад
@@TomicaCZ try Mobula 6 hdzero it’s pretty good
@TomicaCZ
@TomicaCZ Год назад
@@seanconnolly2179 I get your suggestion, but HDzero isn't that good to make me switch to it from analog. If I transfer to HD, I don't want to do half-steps
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
@@TomicaCZ AGREED!
@AzzasBuildsandadventures
@AzzasBuildsandadventures Год назад
I so want to see how good the oled screens look compared to dji lcd..ill never give up dji but may buy this system just for the oled screens.
@johncarold
@johncarold Год назад
Hi Josh I just have to say that I'm impressed with the update. I thought it was never good enough to purchase, but now, it looks great. The only problem is that it cost to much. But at the same time I think DJI is to much. Thanks for the video and information about walksnail.
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
You wanna talk about costing too much? - How about the top of the line analog FPV goggles?!!! Porqa's cost the same as DJI goggles but don't come with anything to make them actually function at $569! No analog module, no antennas, no battery! So, just to fly plain ole' analog you're typically at around $570 = $120 - 150 module + at least $20 for antennas + $20 for a goggle battery = $730 - $780 - JUST FOR ANALOG! Damn! 😧 For that I can buy the DJI goggles + a Caddx Vista for $140 and up, and have full digital! Then there's the Skyzones and analog Fatsharks, all around $500! Still have to add that module for the Fatsharks! so, barely any less! When it comes right down to it, the BEST Analog is more than DJI digital! By BEST Analog I mean with a comparable VTX and camera to the superb quality available, with any choice of Caddx Vista and camera. So, $40 for a VTX and $40 for a great camera, and $10 - 20 for an antenna. That's $90 - 100 bucks for analog and a Vista with a Polar camera is only $40 more! None of this Eachine crap for $15...that's not apples to apples! People don't seem to do ALL OF THE MATH! When you actually do, and compare apples to apples in best quality for analog to "attempt" to compete as best as possible with digital, it's not hardly any more money! Add to that, keeping your eye out for great deals on BNF DJI digital quads - I've gotten 3 DJI equipped quads for... #1 - $269 with a $150 gift card, #2 for $177.50, and a 3rd for $175 all including shipping! Those are less than analog BNF quads! LOL So, digital is actually as cheap or less, on some occasions, than the good gear from analog. Do the FULL MATH and it's pretty damn close. Nothing that's gonna stop me for taking my FPV image from at best a 5 out of 10 from the very best gear analog has to offer, to a 10 out of 10 with DJI digital.
@billyocean9236
@billyocean9236 Год назад
Rant much? Lol
@oziumentisis
@oziumentisis Год назад
I'm still running analog, I'm ready to shed the static. With that said, I can't commit until I've seen the DJI V3 release and review. I've gone this long, I can wait a little longer. I am impressed at this point. I just need to be conscientious because if DJI happens to be lightyears ahead with their V3's then that bridge will be crossed at that time. Until then, ghost branches and static it is!📺📽
@Midwest-RC
@Midwest-RC Год назад
Looking better more tempted now than before. But I’m still riding that hdzero train
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад
Imo hdzero (because I own that system too) has its place in the hobby. In no way shape or form will it ever hang with the 2 big hitters we currently have now. I think of it as the feel of analog with a better image. Analog 2.0 basically
@Midwest-RC
@Midwest-RC Год назад
@@creationlabsinc.189 so you have this system too? Is it worth it yet? Or should we still wait. I had issues with DJI just dropping out. That’s why I went with hdzero. Haven’t ran into that issue yet with it. I find the way it brakes up much better than just going full black screen.
@mikebergman1817
@mikebergman1817 Год назад
@@Midwest-RC yea I definitely agree.
@martinchristiansson658
@martinchristiansson658 Год назад
Are the vibrations every now and then due to the quad tune or the video system?
@Nikyfingas2023
@Nikyfingas2023 Год назад
Your footage looks great and as much as I'd love to jump in on this, I can't help but hesitate. I was all in on the bytefrost/sharkbyte/hdzero and look where that investment got us.......abandoned by fatshark and minimal support by hdzero. As much as I want an hd dji alternative, I really don't know if I'll ever trust fatshark with my money ever again. I'll give walksnail a year or so to develop this further and see where it goes.
@clazy9222
@clazy9222 Год назад
When you are flying cinematic/ mid long range. dji or this new systeme?
@jimmytheriot8978
@jimmytheriot8978 Год назад
I flew mine with the New firmware and it looked awful 😞 , the last update before this one was way better, do you think I have to reinstall the firmware, is it possible to go back to older firmware?
@inikobmore30
@inikobmore30 Год назад
Damn I miss flying.... this may just bring me back
@OnepackFpv
@OnepackFpv Год назад
Cool it tells distance.
@macualey
@macualey Год назад
Detail is great but what is all of that wobble? There is as much jello in this video as in pogro fotage from a beaten up 7".
@atgfpv
@atgfpv Год назад
Is this system limited to a certain range (like DJI at 13.5km) ?
@slappomatthew
@slappomatthew Год назад
yes that is very impressive quality but the auto white balance constantly changing drastically is making me sick. can you force manual white balance? and regaurdless until they offer a goggle with an aux input I am not even considering it.
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
It still stutters a whole lot! I was seeing it about every 5 - 10 seconds, which is way too often. Picture quality is quite good. Durability is questionable from JB's experience with people he knows, so that's iffy at best. Has anyone burned out of destroyed a Caddx Vista? I haven't heard of even one, but there must be someone. I haven't even heard of a Naked Vista burning out or getting damaged. Got to be some, I'd think... All in all, this Walkshark system keeps getting better and better! 😎🤘
@vedasticks
@vedasticks Год назад
i kknow of someoe who has broke dji vtxs, but it wast quality iissue, just someone who is good at breaking stuff
@zachariahcheatum7128
@zachariahcheatum7128 Год назад
I have seen a naked Vista get destroyed.
@MeshJedi
@MeshJedi Год назад
Broken antenna plugs seems to be a fairly common Vista and air unit issue.
@trebor1477
@trebor1477 Год назад
Right now you can't get wrong with DJI v2 but firmware must not be 01.02 0015. You can root them and get more candies like full canvas OSD and others.
@lcarus42
@lcarus42 Год назад
Its getting there...
@brewski6806
@brewski6806 Год назад
We’re you able to get betaflight canvas mode working ?
@miquelmarti6537
@miquelmarti6537 Год назад
Finally it looks as good as DJI (same tech). This is not something better than what we already have. Buying DJI two years ago was a good move, not now. It's too expensive and I can stay analog for one more year to wait and see how well HDZero does.
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад
Buy hd zero. It’s a good system. It’ll never be anything like this or Dji but in my experience it’s still a good alternative to analog.
@kabre24
@kabre24 Год назад
I was waiting too but then realised the price in Europe +700€ with the only option of buying new, went for a second hand DJIv2s around 400€ hope I don't regret it too soon 😅
@gman1185
@gman1185 Год назад
@@kabre24 you won't
@user-yh4fv4eo4c
@user-yh4fv4eo4c Год назад
Thats totally comparable to raw Runcam Orange footage. But I have mixed feelings since I hope for HDZero success..
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад
It’s a good system. Still analog 2.0 but it’s still a “good” not “great” option. I fly it on my smaller quads I don’t want to cram a naked vista in. In an apples to apples comparison walksnail and Dji blow it away. That’s just the facts.
@zuldanfpv4634
@zuldanfpv4634 Год назад
@@creationlabsinc.189 it won’t be analog 2.0 once the HDZero 1080p cams are released after the HDZero Googles ;-)
@michaelwilkes0
@michaelwilkes0 Год назад
looks almost as good as dji, which is a very high bar to match. Way nicer than analog. Im sticking with dji, but im very impressed.
@djSpinege
@djSpinege Год назад
It will be easy to make the call slightly after DJI drops it's next Gen. That said, once the underdogs figure out how to unlock all the HD goodness it's game over for DJI.
@cafub2650
@cafub2650 Год назад
Dji been out for two years already. If they haven’t figured it out yet.
@djSpinege
@djSpinege Год назад
@@cafub2650 the next dji could be really really good. i just want to stay away from company's that make you register products and can lock you out at any moment. HDZero all day!
@cafub2650
@cafub2650 Год назад
@@djSpinege Naw Registering is one way to monitor your product. It don’t not have any active connection for you to be locked out. It’s not Tesla
@djSpinege
@djSpinege Год назад
@@cafub2650 have you ever tried to fly a DJI product? they geo lock you out of flying in some places. i don't trust a company that makes you register or subscribe. it makes zero sense. "monitor your product" thats BS. they can listen to user feedback instead of track our info.
@ericmadsen8324
@ericmadsen8324 Год назад
Where in Portland was this? That's a nice location; would be fun to check out!
@spankmynubs
@spankmynubs Год назад
Eric. It’s on my property out by bald peak
@ericmadsen8324
@ericmadsen8324 Год назад
@@spankmynubs Well damn dude, that's an epic place. Been at this a year and still hard to find places with trees and obstacles without worrying about private property or interfering with other people using a park.
@spankmynubs
@spankmynubs Год назад
@@ericmadsen8324 yea it can be tough! One reason I bought this place 6 years ago and started building the park about 3 years ago!!
@csmarkham
@csmarkham Год назад
Where are y’all getting these VTXes? I’ve yet to be shipped my first, though I’ve had the goggles for weeks.
@gregstewart4692
@gregstewart4692 Год назад
Did you pre-order?
@ph9k40
@ph9k40 Год назад
I'm going to switch from analog to hd, and I can't figure out which system is better to choose now, can you say as a person who has tried both dji and avatar, what is better to buy now
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Год назад
Right now, I think DJI is a clear winner especially with the recent goggle price drop. Performance is excellent and the hardware is so durable. Walksnail has a lot of potential but DJI is proven.
@davidlee8464
@davidlee8464 Год назад
I’m from Portland and don’t recognize that park location - can you say where it is?
@spankmynubs
@spankmynubs Год назад
On my property out by bald peak
@REAL_N3W
@REAL_N3W Год назад
Switching from analog ok but from dji no if all your quad’s are dji and you can buy everything from dji. But nice to see there is a alternative
@jwwfpv2942
@jwwfpv2942 Год назад
I have heard that some people are finding the latest firmware to be worse than the first firmware update. I have been following Mads Tech and Ian experienced a substantial decrease in image quality with the latest firmware. He speculated that the pre release of the latest firmware that some content creators received was better but the actual public release is not performing as well. I have the system and have been reluctant to update to the latest firmware since you can’t roll it back. Also, there are a number of reports of people having issues updating the vtx with the latest firmware. Would love to read your thoughts on these points. Thanks for the content.
@mikebergman1817
@mikebergman1817 Год назад
You can’t roll it back?? Ooh, that’s no bueno.. thx for the heads up.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Год назад
Mads tech said this was worse than the not-released test firmware that they gave to test pilots. He isn't comparing this to the x.5 firmware that came out like 1 week after release. At least that's how I interpreted what he was saying.
@Shauny_D
@Shauny_D Год назад
I'm excited to have some new innovation but I need my analog inputs can't justify swapping 7-8 quads over. I'm sure I'll eventually give in after a few more times the HDMI out of the smart controller fails in front of clients but fornow...
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
my friend sold his least favorite analog gear and was able to buy digital goggles with digital quads too!
@Shauny_D
@Shauny_D Год назад
@@KOrnhOliO1 i’m talking just swapping 8 dji units out for walk snail. I’ll hold out for a while hoping maybe something backwards compatible comes out
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
@@Shauny_D Yeah, no way I'd do that. Mostly because DJI works so damn well, why switch! I have no problem with the size, weight, or fit of my DJI goggles. Not after my upgrades.
@Shauny_D
@Shauny_D Год назад
@@KOrnhOliO1 yah exactly. Hdmi is a massive pain on the commercial shoots I do, and not having canvas osd are the main reasons i’d look into switching, but not there yet...
@trajanfpv
@trajanfpv Год назад
Still looks like a nebula nano 2 (not the pro) maybe a little better in some way, but not in others. Not close enough to the dji camera or the nebula pro from what I could see (and yes I was watching on a 4k monitor in 4k). Impressed by the speed of improvement, and hopeful for this one, but it is just not there yet.
@michaelstewart7662
@michaelstewart7662 Год назад
Not too bad. Only thing that can make me switch is my current gear becoming unavailable.
@genjitsu7448
@genjitsu7448 Год назад
Oh yea, one more thing - where is that location that you were flying at through the trees, around the manmade gates, it looked like it would be an absolute blast to fly there. Is it on private land or is it a public park??? My gut is telling me this is private land but the video is very inspiring to watch, gives you ideas of places that you might go to explore...
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
Yeah, was that in Portland, Oregon? Please let us know where it is.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Год назад
@@KOrnhOliO1 It's a private location. I think you have to get invited.
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
@@JoshuaBardwell Gotcha. Thanks for replying! I live on the west side of Portland, in Beaverton, so unless it's on the west side, I'd never go there anyway. Lol 🤷 So many great places to fly over here, no need to go to Eastside. Plus, the crime over there has been craZy! 😧
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
If you're from PDX, reply. 😎🤘
@spankmynubs
@spankmynubs Год назад
@@KOrnhOliO1 yo, the park is on my property on the outskirts of Hillsboro. Out by bald peak
@dr.noname6602
@dr.noname6602 Год назад
is it possible to make a part of the frame aluminium and use that as a cooler for the vtx...? or something..
@SilverFox80521
@SilverFox80521 Год назад
Decent idea I think. CatalystMachineworks did a big heatsink on the all-weather Whoopmaster for this reason.
@Agent_Crimson
@Agent_Crimson Год назад
The spikes for me feel really bad. I would prefer slightly higher latency all the time and lave little to no spikes instead of having noticeable amount of spikes every flight but say 10ms lower latency
@richmiller540
@richmiller540 Год назад
Looks really promising! The development of firmware seems to be stomping forward at a great pace, I'm currently using DJI so until Walksnail is considerably better than DJI then I'm not going to switch. If I didn't already have DJI I think I'd probably go with Walksnail. The main point is there's another HD player in the game and that can only be great news for the hobby.
@eledikohabib3369
@eledikohabib3369 Год назад
Hdzero?
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
@@eledikohabib3369 It's not even close! It's the lack of penetration. HDZero just doesn't have it. Flying behind any objects and it has difficulties. Most videos show it flying in a field, and that's worthless! Plus, way, Way too much snow, fuzz, and that vertical rainbow blackout thing is disturbing. It's at distant 3rd place.
@eledikohabib3369
@eledikohabib3369 Год назад
@@KOrnhOliO1 It's designed to replace the analog in racing drones🤔
@richmiller540
@richmiller540 Год назад
@@KOrnhOliO1 to be fair HDzero is ideally suited for racers
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад
@@richmiller540 Sure, but just don't try to go behind any big solid objects! ;) lol And, how about the probably 75% of FPV'ers that don't race. It's got slightly lower and fixed latency. But, after that, it seriously lacks in comparison to DJI or the FatSnail system.
@BrainDeadEngineering
@BrainDeadEngineering Год назад
Good show ! You know what ! if your a analog guy this is out of the park !. If analog was a C7 corvette this is a Bugatti Chiron . I like see some rang test. I'm thinking 2 - 4 k max?
@marcback1
@marcback1 Год назад
It s nice to see it going in the good direction. But it looked to me like video encoding is still killing way to much details. Thanks for your video.
@dpxfpv
@dpxfpv Год назад
Its definetly getting better and I like the frequent updates. That alone is a good reason to consider switching. I've been flying DJI for a few years now, and as of now, this is still not good enough for me to switch. I'll give it six months, or even a year to see if the system proves itself to be the future. Overall, this is good for the hobby, so I am happy there are more alternatives out there now! Me personally, I would like to see: 1) Better camera/lens. Current one is clearly inferior compared to DJI. Also more camera options. 2) Revised VTX hardware to fix current reported issues. 3) Consistent firmware updates and improvements. 4) All features actually working without bugs.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Год назад
I disagree that the camera and lens is worse than DJI. Maybe it's the OLED screens but the walksnail system looks much better Wh nyou first put the goggles on.
@dpxfpv
@dpxfpv Год назад
@@JoshuaBardwell interesting point! But side to side, footage against footage (a more fair comparison) the camera quality of the original DJI camera/lens is way better in my opinion. Walksnails current camera/lens feels gloomy, lower color range. Again, I'm just comparing footage!
@SilverFox80521
@SilverFox80521 Год назад
DJI just said “hold my beer”. V3 coming right up...
@rctom1
@rctom1 Год назад
It´s nice 2 c a new competitor in the market. But as long as my V2´s and the bunch of Au´s and vistas are doing their job i will stay on the dji system.
@MurphysLaw996
@MurphysLaw996 Год назад
They made huge improvements in the image quality. Solving the firmware update bricking problem and the vTX durability might take a little more time but it’s not impossible to have a solution for those problems in the next few months. I’m not switching yet but next time I have to order a Vista, I will certainly consider switching to Avatar for new builds.
@amen_ra6926
@amen_ra6926 Год назад
If only the air unit was smaller and more durable. I'm too invested in DJI with the Caddx air unit. Their form factor is the right size for my current frames. The FS performance looks like it has greatly improved. But it's too bad the goggles keep transmitting even when not flying your own quad. This makes flying with others a little challenging.
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад
Hit the power button
@bow66tie
@bow66tie Год назад
@@creationlabsinc.189 Read Amen_Ra’s last sentence.
@Kopterheld
@Kopterheld Год назад
I have the Venom H20 with Walksnail HD system, updated to 23.23.4. Very good video footage but only with 50mbit. I missing the focus mode on Walksnail system. And flying With 25mbit it is terrible. We need new firmware.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Год назад
Walksnail has focus mode. It's called Focalize. It's enabled by default.
@Kopterheld
@Kopterheld Год назад
@@JoshuaBardwell ok, I did not check all menu entries. Settings-Display-Focalization Mode = ON. It was disabled by default, after factory reset. And for 50mbit I set the Settings-Bitrate=High.
@DroneDelirium
@DroneDelirium Год назад
Looks good, but kind of hard to start over right now having 6 vista quads
@alchemicalanarchist
@alchemicalanarchist Год назад
I will wanna see DJI v3 before I decide.
@Mr.Freestyle.
@Mr.Freestyle. Год назад
I thought the woods footage was pretty decent 👍
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