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Fat Shark Dominator Avatar Digital FPV Goggles & System Review.
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@MadRC Год назад

Avatar Issue Update: Hi everyone, between me recoding my review and today Walksnail have reached out and confirmed a few things regarding what I have highlighted in my post. They are working on new firmware to resolve the issues I have highlighted and will be released a soon as possible. Secondly it’s been confirmed that the Walksnail Goggle is actually 5S rated as well an the original info was incorrect. As I understand it the Walksnail goggle is identical to Fatshark Dominator and as I said in my video they come with antennas included. That would make the Walksnail Avatar a better purchase over the Fat Shark from a monetary point of view however how their support for issues will pan out remains to be seen compared to Fat Shark. I know there are things I have not covered in this video and there is so much more to add but it would have gone on for hours. This is my honest and true thoughts on where it’s at today. Thanks Mad

@typxxilps Год назад

Great to watch the review now why I have not get one, most likely never, cause flying dji drones and FPV planes make the decision a lot easier just due to not willing to invest in 2 goggles and vtx aka air units. But I follow the topic and updates closely just to ever be prepared to leave the dji ship once it takes water and get a list from my point of view. Far from being happy with dji and still relying on a mavic 2 pro and its goggles. Good review on spot and enjoy the Summer sun you had kindly send to us after 8 days of bad weather at least for mid Summer. I sit on the bank enjoying the Sunset after flying my Mini 2 batteries down to the bitter end. Couldn't be a better moment when you released it. Thanks, hope to see your Carl s system soon. He is the guy to understand real reviews and critics to improve. Good luck.

@craigjohnstone87 Год назад

Fatshark repair in UK is gone. They shut down a while back. Not heard of any replacement and EU used to send there items to UK repair centre. Something to ponder anyways. Could be costly and timely. Would be a good idea to check as support may not be as good as it once was for uk/eu customers

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

For what it's worth, I got terrible performance from the Walksnail goggle antennas and don't consider them to be much of a value, unless one is on the tightest of budgets. I didn't try swapping out the vTX antennas so I couldn't say if they were any good.

@dominicamptell1285 Год назад

I have noticed that once it starts running poorly I refresh the firmware and it starts running correctly again possibly issues on total combined uptime as it adds up? Not sure but solved for me for now.

@dr.razorx Год назад

@mad'stech Avatar HD system has more eye fish. Best colors but too much eye fish , what's you opinion? Best Regards.

@xjet Год назад

It looks very much as if the WS system isn't using adaptive compression/bitrate to anywhere near the same extent that DJI is doing. This explains why the image quality still seems good when the RF levels drop but at that point latency spikes. WS seems to have favoured image quality over latency in this situation. These are "tuning" issues which hopefully will be resolved as the system matures.

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

I agree. Before the x.5 firmware, they had fewer latency spikes and blurry image. I think they just turned the knob the other way, but still haven't figured out how to improve the system overall.

@johnfaustus1 Год назад

There's actually a couple things going on here with WS. The crazy compression they are using creates anti-redundancy - more information is put into fewer bits, and makes subsequent frames much more dependent on preceding ones. Also, their video codec is almost certainly nowhere near as degradation tolerant as DJI's, resulting in a probably a ridiculous amount of forward error correction. Regardless of DJI's 25Mb/s or 50Mb/s or adaptive, they have written the rest of the system to have predictable (and early-warning capable) degradation, even at sometimes significant cost of clarity of image. Anyway, the amount of time and money the RF, EE, and firmware guys in Nanshan have spent will make WS's job quite difficult. On a philosophical note, I'm conflicted: I want a competitor, but don't want FatShark to benefit. We shouldn't forget how they sat on their butts for a decade without any innovation and grifted pilots with $550 goggles whilst having a BOM cost of $90. I do want them to meet their comeuppance.

@WarriorLife_fpv Год назад

@@johnfaustus1 what we need is a competitive product from a nation other than mainland china but I think Taiwan is focusing on non-consumer drones right now :)

@WezleyVarty Год назад

Initial thoughts opening this video... HOLY COW 43 minutes!! Somehow I sat through the whole thing without getting bored though, which is testament to how much info and effort you've crammed in here. Excellent work Ian!

@phiveone Год назад

"It just drops.". That makes for a thrilling flight session!

@painy6588 Год назад

finally, adrenaline! The one thing missing from the fpv hobby ..

@xjet Год назад

I wish you'd rendered this video at 60FPS so we could get a better idea of how fluid the 60FPS footage from the system was. 60FPS footage pulled-down to 30FPS never looks as good. That aside, an excellent review Ian, well done!

@MadRC Год назад

I will share the flight footage in 60p later this week. It’s actually very smooth.

@lievenvv Год назад

The cameras do 60/120fps, but the screens run at 90. That sounds like a major source of pulldown jitter? Quite an unfortunate decision imo

@paulhope3401 Год назад

@@lievenvv Yes, it's a real shame. A mistake.. or a case of there being no 120hz OLED panels in that size?

@CalleyyyC Год назад

Excellent video Ian! Love the real time side by side comparisons! Cool that you figured out a way to get them to play well together even if not apples to apples

@mihavuk Год назад

Thank you. You really put a lot of effort into this video. 👌

@TitanFPV Год назад

Great in depth look. This is the most thorough and unbiased option I have seen in this system. Thank you.

@MadRC Год назад

I really appreciate that.

@AdrianoCasemiro Год назад

Ian on the review, Bruce and JB on the comments with thoughtful feedback... This thing is definitely deeply analysed. For every new bit of information on WS system I get, more DJI and HDZERO turn out to be the best solutions.

@ATXAirborne Год назад

Great, thorough review. I really appreciated the amount of flight footage you showed, and in the various environments such as behind the building. It's unfortunate that the goggle DVR cleans up some of the stuttering. Do you think that would happen if you were to record from the HDMI out? Could be interesting.

@sn4kedoc7or Год назад

Thanks for the great Video 👍

@sarahdaviscc Год назад

Hi Ian, for the next batch of footage could you record an HDMI capture from the goggles? This would provide a more accurate rendition of jitter, etc as opposed to the DVR.

@kacimierz Год назад

This system has taken all the flaws of DJI's fpv and made them even worse, higher overall latency, bigger jumps in latency, sudden connection drops or freezes instead of slow degradation. The only thing that feels like an improvement is the goggles hardware, their size, having oled screens, and maybe actual osd, but I got used to having crap osd and it doesn't even bother me anymore.

@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад

All problems you mentioned is firmware upgrades to make them better. I’m too invested in Dji to buy this system. In a year or so we’ll all know the true potential of this.

@kacimierz Год назад

@@creationlabsinc.189 maybe, maybe not. In the end people are asked to pay a lot of money for an alpha state product. I feel like solving these issues will require a lot of rework on the firmware.

@ChristopherF_1971 Год назад

@@kacimierz exactly! I see another set of goggles coming out before they fix the issues. So get ready to drop another $600 on the FS HD V2 or WS v2 and same goes with VTX. Testers NEEDED!! No thanks. Some of us need to eat.

@dominicamptell1285 Год назад

@@ChristopherF_1971 they are saying they have another firmware update coming in the next week to resolve all these issues.

@smoke2584 Год назад

@@kacimierz i would call this Beta. Alpha state is a fucking bare bone product. This is still flyable as you can see. The only i observed is how salty the DJI bandwagon like you to bash this product up. Walksnail already reached out that they are still working on the firmware and gave apology to the public. That's said, they started to be transparent on what is hapenning. Is DJI reaching to customers like that? Nah. 🤷

@originafreerangechicken Год назад

Outstanding job, Ian. Thank you sir. That color shifting from warm to cool to warm is absolutely annoying. I’m excited to see what the future holds for WalkSnail and even more excited to see the HDZero offering. We’ve all waited a long time for a real competition in the digital market. Good times ahead.

@FATSNAIL-FPV Год назад

Thanks for the extensive review Mad! Using Eachine ev300o's now and waiting for DJI V3 to make a choice on switching to digital and what digital system specifically. Subscribed!

@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад

Or you can wait another year or 2 and see what v4 or something else that comes out that’s the new hype. Wait too long and you end up like me. A person that bought into the v2 era only to have it become obsolete 6 months later. My point is this hobby is like computers. Every 6 months there’s a new wow moment. Just pick one and get off analog.

@FATSNAIL-FPV Год назад

@@creationlabsinc.189 these digital goggles have only started evolving since the dji v2's. If WOULD switch to digital I'd like to have analog in. Currently only DJI has it. Your's aren't obsolete, and there's no reason for you think that, or pressure me into buying Beta Fatshark/Walksnail goggles. I'll wait, and see. My ev300o's are fine for now.

@crazicat Год назад

Great info, thanks for the work. Is gonna remain a wait and see for me, on all the digital systems. If these goggles had a way to add an analog module I would already have a set though.

@h2o40fpv Год назад

Great video thank u

@AlfieDoug Год назад

The fact that Walksnail reached out to you when you had purchased and reviewed the FatShark version and were able to share with you that they and not Fatshark will work on and release fixes tells me I would rather count on Walksnail for support.

@alchemicalanarchist Год назад

Fatsharks only job was to make the goggle with screens and lens. The actual system for Digital is Walksnail. The board inside the goggle is not made by fatshark so its not them who will support it.

@AlfieDoug Год назад

@@alchemicalanarchist Surely if you buy a Fatshark branded product Fatshark should support the product, I hope Fatshark contacted Ian regarding the variability of the results in normal use pointing to the fact that Fatshark have again released a Beta product but this time have not declared it to be Beta, they can't say the aren't aware of Ian (mad) performing these type of tests and the fact that he has a huge following of people that trust his truthful approach to testing/reviewing and in turn this could have a positive or negative impact on their sales depending on how they approach the issues found by early adopters / beta testers.

@alchemicalanarchist Год назад

@@AlfieDoug Fatshark cannot support something they did not develop. They teamed up with Walksnail to get Digital system in their goggles. Fatshark goggles are not being beta tested because we have used OLED screens and their lenses before.

@AlfieDoug Год назад

@@alchemicalanarchist Whether they developed the entire thing or just bits of it is irrelevant they are selling a system and presumably it comes with some kind of warranty do you think it has return to Walksnail in the event of failure or to Fatshark ? When you say they are not being Beta tested because we have used OLED screens before, does the we mean you are an employee of Fatshark ?

@alchemicalanarchist Год назад

@@AlfieDoug Depends on the nature of the imaginary failure. If the screens in the goggle break somehow fatshark would replace them. Anything to do with the digital link is walksnail.

@andrewjamez Год назад

If they cant tune the behavior during weak signal to something more like DJI or HDzero then it will be a deal breaker for most people. Abrupt loss of signal is a no go and users will be pissed when they keep losing aircraft.

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

Buyer beware........ indeed. Excellent video

@lasersbee Год назад

@Ian... I communicated with an HDZero customer sales rep today checking on an order.. I asked when the HDZero Goggles will be available in October in small quantities. He also said that they have completed the circuit design, optical design and structural design.

@MadRC Год назад

Yep it’s not too long now

@rickm1283 Год назад

Great video Ian, quick question: when you update the sd with new firmware do you need to reformat the card everytime you upgrade the firmware or do you just add the new firmware with the previous firm? Same with the VTX? Thanks

@MadRC Год назад

I just added the file and presses the held the ins button for 8seconds.

@rickm1283 Год назад

@@MadRC so no need to reformat that sd card?

@artifixprime Год назад

Wonder if the form-factor of the VTX was a compromise - it will "fit" (with tape/zip-ties) in a 4"-5" frame, but will also fit on top of an AIO board in a 3" or larger whoop?

@m2kfpv449 Год назад

Great comparison shots. Really shows the neck and neck of these two systems. So purchasing from Walksnail avoids the “its them not us” type bs support response from FS, but who knows anything about Walksnail’s support?

@MrSabram07 Год назад

I like it these goggles for the optical adjustments. like HDO2s. With my DJI Goggles I have to wear my glasses and I always like going back on my HD02s because I don't have to wear glasses and I can manually focus. That's worth the price of admission alone, love that form factor

@rcrdps8144 Год назад

Great review. Assuming the DJI-Fatshark side-by-side were both at 25Mbit,...which somewhat keeps DJI from strutting its stuff. Seems the 1080p footage looks good until you push the bitrate's limits. I wonder what their timeline is for 50Mbit. It's off my radar until I see 1080p 50Mbit footage.

@deadlazlo Год назад

When you say there is a difference from the goggle display to the dvr, do you mean in the goggle dvr , or the onboard dvr on the unit itself, which has its own dvr.

@francohernandez6127 Год назад

Really nice video Ian, now my concern is that flywoo rename DJI camera as the last one to buy. I hope caddx and runcam don't leave us without vistas system's.

@MrSabram07 Год назад

I really wish I could see distance to home on these screens. I'm just curious as to the distance that other pilots are getting. I never seem to get kilometers seems like I get blocks

@FPVecinos Год назад

Great review! understanding that is a beta product, what do you think about HDzero VS AvatarFPV? point to features, specs etc..

@MadRC Год назад

It’s an interesting comparison. I avoided the HDZero discussion as it’s very much the same arguments over HDZero vs DJI as it is Avatar. It’s IQ is better but it behaves very differently.

@SeeFPv-qm6ie Год назад

are those antennas right hand polarized or left hand polarized?

@mdk42o74 Год назад

I got dji v1 and i got to say they are so much better now than when i first got them. I love them so much i did not feel like it was worth getting the v2. If walksnail can do what the dji did i could so see this being top dog. I would buy them today if it had video in and could use them on my computer but as of now i will wait for the v2 and pray they add video in, wifi 6, and bluetooth for my ear buds.

@QuadyMcQuadFace Год назад

after seeing your back ground with microscope, o-scope, and probably a DMM in there, i have subbed to your scientific all gas monkey garage and no poo poo channel.

@E.Blackadder Год назад

Thank you, nice review. I'm glad I held off getting it. For me, at that price point I would want a finished product and from all the reviews I have seen, its definitely not. I'll wait for Skyzones digital system.....

@DronoTron Год назад

Very intsresting, thanx for sharing. I'm able to see more detail in the shadows on the dji system, the walksnail has too much contrast. with dji you can see whats on the shadows, with WS its just all black

@brandonwoodford579 Год назад

How is it calculating distance from home?

@dominicamptell1285 Год назад

@Mad's Tech would it be a smart idea to use rhcp on the avatar system and lhcp on the dji to get full output power on both units on the same frame?

@MadRC Год назад

It’s not really going to help when they are both onboard the same craft. It’s pure RF that’s the issue at that point.

@dominicamptell1285 Год назад

@@MadRC do they both disrupt each other or is 1 system more overpowering?

@0TheRain0 Год назад

Your statement about "we don't know this companies capabilities" is exactly where my head is at about the system. I mean, there's suspicion/info suggesting it's related to Caddx, which doesn't have the best reputation except for their involvement with DJI FPV parts. Anyway, I do have the money and am buying in now mostly out of curiosity. Seems like a pretty promising system that will hopefully make it out of the beta stage.

@Salamattder Год назад

Usb-C or a proprietary cable to offload data that has maybe 50 plugins before it breaks. What where they thinking?!

@JDDupuy Год назад

A lot of hard work you have put into this review. Fair and to the point. Still don't care to spend 800 bucks to be a beta tester. Hopefully they can get moving and solve some more of these issues in the next 30 days. Until then, they won't be flying off the shelf. But I have confidence that they can get better.

@creationlabsinc.189 Год назад

This system reminds me of the dji system from 2 years ago. It most certainly will get better. When a company reverse engineer something you have to expect growing pains of figuring out the magic

@flyingdutchmanfpv Год назад

Talking about beta firmware ;-) The UI even has a typo left in it... 'scence'

@horstderheld22 Год назад

You could try to record via the hdmi-out to catch the jitter.

@MadRC Год назад

Yea it’s a little temperamental as you have seen but for sure.

@ShermanKenB Год назад

Elrik Toft shared some DVR footage using 23.23.4 firmware and provided the DVR files. What I noticed is that the DVR records at 39mbs so my sense is trying to get a real sense of what this looks like in googles is going to break down and be difficult. This other thing I'm picking up is that the Avatar and DJI systems handle poor quality signal, or break up differently. I still fly analog so trying to see do I care and on the plus side I like the better clarity that Avatar can give when signal is weak, the muddy effect isn't too appealing. If I'm understaning this correctly, then with the cliff edge approach you'd expect to see what'd I'd call almost a full frame loss in areas of signal loss thus causing a jittery or stutter in the video feed. My sense is people find they like one approach better than the other, and I'd take the same approach with any system of getting to knowing the area where I'm flying so I don't fly into an area where your video feed goes dark completely and you can't get home. Again, seems like it's going to be a personal preference thing based on how your brain reacts. Thanks for all the work, I really appreciate it.

@noname-xq5ie Год назад

Ian when we organising a UK meet /race freestyle event????

@noname-xq5ie Год назад

So u interested

@rasmus80g Год назад

The color shifts... wow what a trip to look at that fotage... the firmware is realy a mess at the moment. When will beta testing be ower is my question...

@richardruckert7954 Год назад

Thank you for this. Ideally, DJI sees this as a genuine threat. If they do, AND DJI was interested in continuing to offer FPV systems aside from their FPV drones, then DJI may be motivated to increase the capabilities of their FPV system. In the end, at least DJI accelerated the development of other digital FPV systems.

@off-grideverything533 Год назад

Wonder if you can lock the white balance in the camera menu. Didn't seem too bad, for the latter half of the flight videos, but over the field, it felt like the wb was all over the place, and I can imagine it can be pretty jarring, suddenly having your colour temperature drop, by a couple thousand Kelvin. Not to mention, a nightmare to colour grade, if you're trying to get a cinematic video out of it. I'll probably personally, wait to see what developments they make on the system, before saving up that much. Great review, thanks for taking the time, and making the investment, so we don't have to!

@MadRC Год назад

You can I just did not do it.

@TarantinoY 28 дней назад

добрий день, окуляри дуже подобаються і якість ніби шикарна але дуже би хотілося побачити їхню роботу на відстані орієнтовно 2,5км, також у бетонній споруді з перегородками 3-4 стіни, також у лісі між великими деревами та відстань від 1,5 км( назвав орієнтири при яких діджай сипеться) дякую( написав до подібних тестів на шарки не знайшов)

@avsaase Год назад

Did I eat mushrooms or are the colors all over the place? Is this with auto WB disabled?

@MadRC Год назад

Auto WB was on

@jimmytheriot8978 Год назад

Check out my 2.11 mile flight with the fatshark Dominator system

@aviphysics Год назад

When it's good, it looks really good, but it doesn't seem consistently good. Hopefully they can make it more consistent and release a HDMI VRX.

@jimmytheriot8978 Год назад

Whoo whoo

@craigjohnstone87 Год назад

I think fatshark have actually missed a fundamental feature on there goggles which NO reviewer has brought up. Fatshark are not making vtx's. So to sell a goggle at as high a price as they are with no cross compatibility is a joke. If walksnail go under or decide to cease production, these are some rather expensive paperweights. Even dji goggles had composite in. It would not be the first time a company has entered the HD space and left without trace. (Connex prosight)

@leflamantrosefpv1725 Год назад

for the history of channel 1, do you remember when you "bind" them, if you were on channel 1 or 2? because if it is, you have to bind in 1 and then maybe all the channels would work? (an idea like that because of the quality of the firmware.... maybe too early?) I'm waiting for the DJI V3 (v5 in reality), because with a little luck and intelligence, it will be at least can be compatible with my current air unit or vista drones?? that would be awesome and still put the competition down once again. and yet we cannot say that the competition did not have time to react.. (and I remain on the idea that dji sold its technology to caddx.. which turned into Walksnail/fs in order to to avoid having that to manage.. because it may not be the same chips, but too similar and it smells of quickly being badly done..) but in these times of war, there is a shortage, how to do better at the same price as dji at the time? impossible, and this video proves it. overall not great. but it's not for those who don't have

@TheMkourkis Год назад

So basically my take away is that DJI V2 are superior to the Dominator, right?? Guess I'm gonna hang unto my DJI goggles for now and see what HD Zero comes up with. Does anyone know if DJI working on a V3 goggle or is it essentially dead?

@typxxilps Год назад

They will never tell you, but it is more or less a core part for some industrial applications here which they sell a lot to. You will see an Upgrades new version for sure soon being the market leader or in particular DOMINATOR. A bit less latency, more range, more immersion, OLED, bigger battery - the usual things, nothing too fancy. But of cause a price increase - or the opposite to cause their competitors headaches. In Europe some dji executives have been talking about the topic in a more general kind like open questions as I said: Why should the market developer and dominator retreat If sales had been strong? And the smile that followed seemed to be even bigger than the market share.

@andrewbt87 Год назад

latency is higher than DJI, it only shows a lower latency on OSD but measured it's about the same or worse, the average latency on Fatshark is still higher for now, OLED is nice, and smaller form factor, for now lower performance and more expensive.

@doccock100 Год назад

I have tried the Dominator today (recent purchase). The OLED is very nice indeed, and more luscious compared to my V2 DJI. I think there is really milage in the dominator, something really strange is going on the software. When I first did bind and fly after update the image was amazing, better than the DJI I would say, I then went into the menu and then something happened with the image and it seemed not as good as the DJI. I do believe that if they get the software right then they will be a clear winner. Betaflight OSD, no need to register the air units or goggles, the goggles are so so light and small and the OLED is stunning. Are those things enough to upgrade... only you can decide. If they get the software a bit better then for those not on digital then I would probably advise the dominator as it is at the beginning of its life, not just about to be discontinued.

@Hotfpvcontent Год назад

Whichs better?i dont understand I want to buy googles v2 or avatar system…

@sganzerlag Год назад

Right now, DJI is quite a lot better than Walksnail. However, it seems pretty likely to me that in six months time or a year, Walksnail will have tweaked the firmware to the point where it will probably be at the same image quality and rf behavior level as dji. There certainly seems to be potential for that. And,, if Walksnail do manage that, then their product at that point will imo be superior to dji because of full BF OSD availability in Walksnail. Also, Walksnail seem to be much much more responsive to the fpv community's thoughts and desires, than dji. Furthermore, the Walksnail goggles seem to me much superior to the dji goggles, due to oled screens, better form factor, less weight, focus adjustment, better style and dmi out. I would totally wait a couple or a few months to see how fast the Walksnail system evolves, before deciding which system to buy. In a couple months' time I think we will have a better feel for how much potential there is in the Walksnail product. My gut feeling is that Walksnail will turn out to be a very desirable system. I also like where HDzero is going, with their constant latency and lighter-weight vtxs. It's just really hard to decide which way to go right now.

@painy6588 Год назад

DJI might also come out with a new goggle soon, its not a good time to buy as a lot is uncertain.

@marc_frank Год назад

fpv wtf will probably do canvas mode for dji

@killerhurtalot Год назад

Man... as a consumer, this vs DJI feels exactly like the early days of the ios vs android smartphones haha... DJI is like iOS and has their first mover advantage with a developed firmware and system from being 2-3 years old already, but with a locked down system with some faults and etc... Walksnail is like Android with some half assed features and "potential" but came out 2 years too late and feels like it's a 1 year old product. When it's priced the same as a the DJI system, it just feels like you're paying to be a beta tester with who knows how long for it to reach the same maturity as DJI system. Who knows what else is gonna come out by the time the firmware gets to the same level as DJI...

@doa_form Год назад

nothing they could've done better digitally? I mean for starter: Using H265 vs AV1 is a mistake, they're leaving 20 percent of bitrate on the table just with that

@1967friend Год назад

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard somewhere (maybe Bardwell) that CH1 is not meant for normal use. They ship on CH1, but apparently it is advised to select a different channel before use somewhere in literature?!?! Idk why this would be, but I’m 99% sure I heard someone state this.

@MadRC Год назад

That’s ch8

@Joe_Sa_3rd Год назад

Focus mode does work...

@MadRC Год назад

Not currently WS have said in the next firmware.

@MrJoris666 Год назад

Will they release a whoop vtx?

@painy6588 Год назад

They said they plan to.

@marc_frank Год назад

if you mean 1s

@roddysallie8098 Год назад

Will it work with iNav OSD ?

@MadRC Год назад

Not at the moment

@leflamantrosefpv1725 Год назад

ok, but waiting a test with a real dji air unit (with 2 antennas!), because it penetrate better than the vista with one.. i dont like the ufl on the vtx like vistas, and the holes for mount it, why 25.5?? and the heat shink separe easy? wow.. (but is not like the air unit, with nothing to put it on a frame BUT you can put it on a frame with zip ties.. because it dont decompose itself..) but you dont have a nice dji vs fs because one with two antennas and a vista with one, is not really equaly..

@andrewjamez Год назад

surely cables of differing lengths will be released. surely they are not that short sighted...

@MadRC Год назад

Hopefully.

@dr.razorx Год назад

27:46 DJI Vista vs. Avatar HD

@IggyBiggy Год назад

They should have waited to release these.

@testpilotian3188 Год назад

The DJI is terrible at 25mw too, so nothing new there. The reason you sometimes don’t get the latency freezes on for compared to google view is because of the resends, this is the same for DJI too. Considering what it is, it’s not too bad for what is essentially still a beta product, but I won’t be selling my DJI gear and jumping ship, that’s for sure.

@MadRC Год назад

It’s worse than DJI tbh.

@thewhitedillard Год назад

not to fond of that color shift, bummed they didn't do a 20x20 vtx rather it be taller than wider personally. hopefully the smeared video at higher speeds will be dealt with in time.

@miquelmarti6537 Год назад

If I bought this I would have to sell my analog googles...... but no analog input? That's weird and very inconvenient. It looks very good though

@gingerdude94 Год назад

Why would they be worried? They have a massive lead In user base, the product maybe but is not as yet on par with them. They have massive pockets and many fingers in other pies rather than just the niche FPV market. Competition is good tho.

@2strokeme64 Год назад

A real trooper would have flown into the shit house on the back side of the building to really raise the stakes...

@MadRC Год назад

Hahahahh

@damianperalta3389 Год назад

Some body notice that he had plug dji antenna. Ni video 📹

@vasylcf 7 месяцев назад

Thanks it was interesting review

@nolandfpv Год назад

Thanks for this comprehensive review. I'm bummed the FPV community has become so toxic over goggle allegiance. It's not a good look.

@dolseno2187 Год назад

Would you buy a TV that only streamed Netflix?

@peterthepumpkineater6363 Год назад

If it had built in ‘chill’.

@jimmytheriot8978 Год назад

I got the dji system which is awesome, HD zero that I don't even use because i got 4 cameras and all look like shit , but I am waiting on the new goggles 😆 , and I got the fatshark system because of the HDMI out to hooked to my homemade fpv cockpit, hopefully the dji v3 goggles will have HDMI out

@andrewjamez Год назад

why not just put a usb3 connector on the board....FFS

@brapler Год назад

Almost same with dji,Now I can confirm it’s dji code internal,and I will not buy because the variable latency,fixed latency is best for pilot.

@MadRC Год назад

It’s not DJI Code.

@ADKDronesRC Год назад

It’s as good as dead if they don’t fix the basics soon ! How much money are they willing to lose or already invested! I’m not a huge fan of fatshark but I want them to succeed just to better the hobby! Huge disappointment and should of never rushed it out the door ! Today economic state kinda iffy to ! So it have to top the current systems out of the gate to get people to drop this kind of money on another system. Idk about you all but I’m heavily invested in what I have now !

@MRdeLaat Год назад

if u have dji v1 or v2, stick with it people new to FPV for that money might aswell go dji also walksnail, why call it walksnail that alone is bad decicion

@brendand.2269 Год назад

NO….. DJI is not worried nor will they ever BE worried. Lol. The minute another company says oh we are making a HD fpv feed, then DJI goes ok fine here’s v3 and 1080 lololololol and on top of that their components are nearly bulletproof. I have literally had an air unit run over by a work van and it’s still flying months later. These other companies are touching themselves

@chriscflint Год назад

Maybe I am cynical but. "Fatshark as made and now owned by DJI". Too many items on the goggles lead me to think DJI bought the company.

@MadRC Год назад

It’s not DJI.

@WarriorLife_fpv Год назад

I think WS/FS should be worried that DJI slashed the price of the v2 goggles more than DJI should be worried about competition from a product not ready for prime time that's being compared to something DJI released a few years ago. I hate DJI but generally speaking, when you buy a DJI product they aren't selling you something that is barely ready for beta tested that MIGHT catch up with the v2 goggles someday. They'll never catch up to the goggles 2 which come out very soon. This video is very misleading if not flat out dishonest; especially with the garbage video virtually everyone else was releasing a month ago lmao

@p.0788 Год назад

The range seem to much worse than with dji

@witblitsfpv1265 Год назад

No antennas and that head strap makes it look cheap. Why not make the head strap the same as on the Dominator and you can use the same one. Fatshark. 🙄

@pirateradioFPV Год назад

600€ beta, funny.

@cmtetaboaco Год назад

Looks analog! A big blur all arround! Wasn’t it supposed to be HD????? TERRIBLE!

@YOYO-vl6xr Год назад

nan...that's the DVR footage.... hahahahah

@cmtetaboaco Год назад

@@YOYO-vl6xr buy one, I don’t give a S…

@NeoFlowFPV Год назад

Your content has plummeted unfortunately I used to come here for information nownits just drama and speculation u hate too see it within the community

@MadRC Год назад

I love to know how this review is drama and speculation when it’s in my actual hand. But hay I can’t please everyone with everything I do. I am openly critical, I push for consumers and I highlight good and bad. There is lots of the more in-depth technical content coming but again I can’t please everyone so if you find someone else that suits what you want to see better then great. If I’m not upsetting someone I’m probably not doing it properly.