@Daniel Roberson not once did I hear him complain. I heard him call it the fatal flaw in which I see his point of view. If at a rave track nobody wants to have to fill up a stock factory car every 30 mins. That is an over excessive use of fuel which should have been addressed by Ford. They could have given it a larger fuel tank, even a secondary fuel cell for the track. So many things Ford could have done to remedy this flaw!
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Sorry to sound rude but this guy shouldn't worry about gas mileage with a car like that. I'm not envious of his car collection but he does sound a little spoiled.
overheadcam32 My apologies he’s a Shelby guy all he. Needs is a ford Gt and whalla he’s the 2020 Carole Shelby 😎 God rest his soul my mentor when growing up. Always respect ✊ for Carole Shelby 🏎💪
Yung_Chip if people don’t buy enough higher trim C8s expect to see the base price jump to 80k... I’m sure they weren’t expecting the COVID-19 either so I’m willing to bet they’ll have a 90k starting price real soon.
He makes a lot of good points, especially about the cheap plastics in the interior. But I'd love to hear how a comparable Camaro, Corvette or other race-set car does at the track in terms of MPG. One who spends $100K for a car shouldn't care too much about spending $200 to fill up track side. I know I wouldn't.
What is wrong with good plastic ? What would be the preferred material ? Fiberglass ? Carbon fiber ?? Those would add to the cost and be a net gain of ZERO.
@@Thebadbeaver9 That would be nice to look at I guess..But it's really not practical, lots of work to maintain its look. And here is the main thing....It wouldn't make the car a damn bit better. I haven't heard "dweeb" in 35 years. lol It's just a matter of preference or opinion I guess but it just seemed odd to be slamming plastic. There are soo many different types of it and quality grades of it and It's soo common and is everywhere soo much that most folks don't even think about it.
Strick nine definitely nothing wrong with it, its right in that price range where you cant really have everything. You wouldn't expect plastic in a Ferrari or Porsche, but this doesn't cost nearly as much. Would just be nice to at least have the option to get a better 'feeling' interior, but I get it - not really the point of the car.
its 100k man.. At that price range everything should be on point. Yes I am apart of that crowd. If you pay 100k for a car it should be excellent quality both inside and out.
alan mac but averaging 14mpg on the hwy is pretty bad. That means in the city he’s averaging less than 9mpg. My 860hp roush mustang gets 26mpg on the hwy.
That’s not the point. The gas tank is too small. Even the Porsche which is a 500 HP V6 comes with an extra large gas tank option. This car should as well. A 26 gallon tank would be perfect. Given it doesn’t even have a spare tire in the spare section.
@@r32446 Correct! It isn't the MPG that is the problem, but the small tank. It makes you notice your fuel usage more since you have to fill up more often. I think they kept it small for weight reduction though. So you have to plan accordingly.
Does the car have a smaller fuel tank for weight reduction reasons? What’s the furthest distance and shortest distance you’ve travelled in a full tank?
Thank you for your honest opinion. I love the shelby gt500 and own a gt350R myself, but with all that money that dealers are asking as mark ups on shelby, it’s criminal. There are tons of options available when your are dropping a 80-100 grand on a sports car
This is not a knock by any means. Hard to believe that how the technology in cars have changed in just 12 years. 2008 Shelby is spec 500hp and todays gt is 460hp. Probably in 12 years from now this current shelby will be the standard hp numbers then.
K Ranch, the 13 has 662 hp and more torque than the 2020. Personally, Fathouse builds an 8 second STICK SHIFT GT350 1400R with 1478 rwhp. I personally am looking for a decent GT350 to ship to Fathouse Performance
My biggest complaint with mine is it makes even cars like my Jaguars ZF-8 speed feel like it shifts so sluggish and slow after driving the DTC for a few days 😆 But on a real note I do agree with you on all of those points.
Hey man,, I really like the fact that your titles on your videos are what you actually talk about.. So many you tubers say things in their thumbnail to get views,,, you seem like a genuine young man who is honest.. good stuff man!!
@@hpickettz34 Nah - lots of us out here who put miles on them.....but then to your point and answer your question, there are lots of garage queens too. :)
3:42 I agree, total BS when they (Ford) don't replace the interior plastic of the base car with better quality materials for the top of the line model.
@@kkatlvolvo~ guess that's the problem when there are trim levels of the same car that have a $75K price difference. When a car gets close to $100,000, there should be no cheap plastic parts on the doors, dash, and center console. What would it cost to upgrade those few pieces with a higher end material? $1000 at most? It could even be another 'option' that would make even more money for Ford.
@@skinchen~ I agree too bad manual transmissions have gone the way of the dodo bird. DCT are great, but sports cars should never not have a true manual option.
The interior is the same as the $25k Mustang. This needs some serious attention. Engine isn’t the only thing a car should be improving. I’d pay an extra $10k for an interior upgraded like the Porsche, BMW, Mercedes level quality interior. Would make the Ford be able to compete and sell a ton more for high end consumers who want best of all worlds.
So, do you expect the interior to be made of wood or aluminum or titanium? All cars have plastic in it. So would it make the car faster or handle better if it were Carbon fiber interior? Save what 18 lbs.
I just have to ask is the rain tray a big deal in so cal? The reason I ask is in 2014 i stayed in so cal (costa mesa) and it didn't rain once lol i will say over night there was a mist or thick dew tho
YEP I FINALLY GOT RID OF MT 16 GT-350 AFTER ALMOST 3 YEARS N GOT AN 18 CORVETTE GRANDSPORT PRACTICALLY NEW!!WAY 2 MANY PROBLEMS WITH THE CARS ENGINES..DO NOT NEED THE DRAMA..+THE INSIDE IS SO MUCH NICER THAN THE GT 350...LOT BETTER CAR...YOU GUYS DR. 1 N YOU WILL SEE!!
lol trust buddy this car waste WAY more gas than my 2020 f350 super duty it sad makes the car less fun andim not even adding the cheap ass feeling you get when inside no matter how powerful the car is its got to be impressive when you sit in it it has to make you feel special and this just doesn't
I commend how you showcased this right from the get go with the drive in winter from Detroit Rock city to Cali and drag racing along the way 10.6 1/4 mile at Texas speedway? I’ve seen it run a 10.5 with slicks stock so quite impressive for a race track driver to run that 1/4 mile time without even a breakin 👍🏻 great channel lots knowledgeable content and real driving as per what the car was designed to do.
Can we have more pov drive please :) maybe in city? thank you! love your videos!! I am working now on getting my first mustang but :"( its really expensive to buy a mustang here in nz :*(
Thats because for unlike GTi where the transmission,suspension and almost all of its components are made in house by VW. Fords suspension is sourced from Delphi, transmission from Tremec, etc...so they ve to pay a novelty to these suppliers, even GM does the same but has cut a better deal with its suppliers unlike Ford, and unlike Ford, GM has more inhouse components than GM which leads to C8s price as we see now.
@@1989rs500 I was only focusing on the interior materials. Soft touch material is cheap, and feels a million times better than the hard plastic Ford uses. They can more than put it in their cars to increase interior quality by a millionfold
@@boostoshi See its not as easy as it sounds.. I ve worked with suppliers and the suppliers always put pressure on brands to use their materials and use their designs. Brands will always choose the cheapest rates given by suppliers.
SaiiBoost same reason why I don’t plan on buying a gt500. Spend all that money on a car to just feel like I bought a eco boost mustang. Both the same interior and all. C8 interior makes gt500 look like straight shit
You are paying for performance not fine interior amenities. May I remind you that you purchased a mid 10 second Mustang. Speed costs , how fast do you want to go and what are you willing to trade? Also I'm asking, didn't you notice all these cheap interior components on the showroom floor? Before you laid down all those dollars? Hind sight is always 2020!
A friend of mine works at a Ford dealership and he says all of the idiot's that pay the sticker price or higher are suckers... And he loves suckers... Told me to but a slight used one and the price goes down dramatically.... So sucker have at it ....
Depending on the track format and sessions...yes make sure you fill up before you get there. The price of gas at the track is the cost of having fun. Nothing is free... It has 760 hp..it is hauling 4000 pounds around the track. You are going to be burning through gas like there is no tomorrow...simple physics...
Speed Density Tune, probably needs to be tuned by a tuner, that load bases to get Speed density locked on and timing. Its definitely worth a shot to get a little better gas mileage on the track. My 2015 Z28 run Speed density, the stock map was so rich at wide open throttle. I use HP tuners to adjust the Speed Density. A good Tuner should make difference from the factory tune. Love your content, goodluck!
I do agree, ford definitely could have done away with all the standard plastics in the car, especially with those cars costing anywhere from $90k-$110k. I honestly think that could be applied to everyday mustangs as well, like the price isn’t justified when it comes to interior quality
Glad to see you drive the car. I agree with you, poor gas mileage is a problem, my Corvette gets the same or better mileage but its 30 years old and unfortunately only has 250 HP and Torque.
Great video really like watching your channel. I'm on my 2nd Shelby and I don't know if I ever notice if it's really that much plastic lol .. The last true Shelby 2014 and the last manual stick shift . That is really disappointing on the Interior I can't believe FORD did not do a better job on the interior for what you have to pay $$$ Don't get me wrong I am a huge Shelby fan but I want to get the most for what I pay for. I will hold out for the new Z06 that will be the best bang for buck . Black beauty is beautiful though.
So you honestly thought you were about to get all that one off shit for cheap and then think you were going to get special interior knowing full well a fully loaded mustang GT is already near 60k
These cars have no rear tire in the spare tire section. They should do away with spare tire area and put a 10 more gallon tank under the car. The spare tire area is wasted space. It comes with a air compressor which can easily be fitted inside the trunk side. Inside of the trunk. Will they remold this section. Not likely. But if there was ever an after market company that would take down your rear sub, and cut this out and remove the old gas tank and put in a 26 gallon tank, I would pay to get this mod done. Hope someone is paying attention to this needed market for all GT 350 and GT 500
Speed Phenom Great Video I'm not surprised that the Fatal flaw of your 2020 Shelby GT500 is The Fuel Consumption since it has and has a Big Supercharged V8
Hey bro on that rain tray you know what you should try to do is figure out a velcro system something that you can easily take it off and put it back on be the first one to come up with it and then make some money who knows
Totally agree. It's still a comfortable Mustang, but your buying performance. From reading articles about the C8. The base seats are unconformable. If you want the better seats and matching seatbelt colors. You pay for that option. Ford should offer an optional interior upgrade. My guess is most would pass on that option.
Zo6 im getting 24mpg driving 75 mph in sport mode highway city is around 12 to 16 depending on how hard i drive it i don't track it your car sounds amazing
This is such a good car, and honestly for what you get it should be more expensive. Americans have a twisted view of what supercars should cost. This same kind of machine if made by a European automaker would be $150,000+ and no one would bat an eye. GET OVER THE PLASTIC A PILLAR PEOPLE.
pdmustgt d Biggest Flaw is black paint. Love black cars. But it’s just horrible. It’s just so difficult to maintain. Any rain drop or bird poop ends up baked in with the sun and black paint cooking it up. Also seems more susceptible to rock chips with hot paint chipping easier.
Bro, you trying to sell it and you already need tires on it? How many miles do you have on it? I am seriously interested in it and I sent you a email, but how hard have this GT500 been driven and how many miles? Thanks
I do find it weird that the center console is plastic. I got a 2019 gt premium for the leather and even in there they wrapped the middle all in leather.
Your tearing ass around Willow Springs in a factory built race car. Stop with the gas. When the track pack GT500 gets 3 mpg, are you going to take it back? Enjoy your blessed life.
The plastic drives me crazy on all of the high technology cars. The corvette is full of alcantara and carbon fiber everywhere when you up the packages... but the doors in the 2020 GT500 are still the same plastic you would get in a standard S550... I love it, but that plastic KILLS the car's value despite it being the most HP mustang, you might as well go buy an 18 GT or 2020 GT w/ a whipple or centrifugal supercharger that makes 800HP and could even be faster than the GT500. Even over the gas mileage... that plastic really kills the value I believe. I would say if you're keeping the car, replace that plastic with carbon fiber, not only will it add to appearance, but it will lose a bit of weight too. BTW Ford's comment to me on the plastic was similar to "We want all our cars to retain a specific image, the plastic is lightweight to lower the weight of the car more than other options available" If I EVER splurge on a 2020 GT500, I'm definitely making sure I have carbon fiber replacement interior panels ready to go.... that, or opt for a faster 800HP S650 when it releases.
I’m a ford guy and love that car but I’m sorry for the price you can get an extremely loaded c8 that has a lot of a better looking build quality to it and I’m sorry for that reason I’d get the c8
My hellcat was the same. Don’t really understand your complaint. Just got a 2020 gt500 and yes she’s a thirsty girl. But it’s smiles bee gallon. Not miles per gallon
I like your channel, but that was most amateur car thing to say. Nobody buys or expects to buy a car like that and have it be good on gas. If you are worried about that then you shouldn't buy the car. In true criticism.....you have under 1k likes and 14k views at the time I wrote this. You have time to delete this video.
Only 14 mpg going 70 mph on the hwy ??? . My 797 Hp 300 lb heavier Challenger Hellcat Redeye. With the 3.09 rear gears. Gets 22.3 mpg going 70 mph's, down the hwy. City is 15-16 mpg. Then again the gas guzzler Tax. Is $900.00 more on the GT 500
the whole reason it's so cheap is because it sacrifices quality for performance budget. and you can't really get anything performing better overall for the price
Couldn't agree with you more. This is pretty much a parts bin car and therefore share all the same quality problems the 30k mustangs have. Well, it shares everything except for the powertrain & hood. I guess that's what everyone will be paying for. After all, this is pretty much a bargain supercar.
It’s funny how it works. I have a 6.2l z06 as well as the 5.2l shelby. The zo6 gets much much much better gas mileage with even a liter more of displacement. Crazy.
