Fate Lore - The Tale of Vlad III [FGO and Apocrypha] 

He didn't. He did what he had to do to stop the Ottomans.

Everyone does what’s needed to do, what comes later is what others see you as, you should not care for others views on yourself, but only you’re own view.

misc alotastuff were? They still do so.

I don't blame Vlad for being what he was I mean how would you react when you found out that your life was transformed and merged into a legend a creature of Horror I wouldn't blame glad for being at how he is in hating that Noble Phantasm I mean the guy was basically trying to be what he is what the legend is anymore it's not trying to become that vampire Vlad the Third

Yea, However Vlad was a hero for protecting his people. It’s basically as if the British were to have demonize George Washington. Though I think he should wear his title with honor because of how feared he was.

Soarel Yeah it seems Fate usually tries to show the best of a hero.

And they took a more realistic view on the character because the most Romanians have a perspective based on communist propaganda where he was presented as a flaules ruler.

@@bogdan3386 ...What? Vlad has been beloved in Romania long before the USSR.

Yeah,but the communists took that love to far associating Vlad with the communist dictator,you know like communists always do associating historical figures with the leaders and making people to love the dictator because he acts like those historical figures. Btw Romania was also a communist country until 1989. And most Romanians until these days have have that vision on Vlad influenced by the communist party compared to the historians that have a more realistic view.

Soarel The party didn't used his model directly but it was a Romanian movie about him in 1979 that really tried to imply the idea that Vlad the communist leader are very similar and even in old Romanian history manuals used in schools. The problem are not the myths but the fact that those myths were treated like they were true from a historical point of view.

Extra Vlad is Vlad Summoned as "The Crusader" Apocrypha Vlad is "The Sovereign" And Berserker Vlad is "The Monster" They're all Vlad III but with different "interpretations" of the same person so to speak Extra Vlad is affected by Innocent Monster, hence why he looks so Demonic. But he's surprisingly loyal and friendly. So long as you're not his enemy He has most of his sanity, however one of his skills, "Protection of the Faith" does partially warp his sanity and forces him to be loyal to his master. The legend of Dracula affects Extra Vlad by the effects of Innocent Monster Giving him some Vampiric Qualities like Drinking Blood and the entire Spikey/Demonic aesthetic Apocrypha Vlad is say Vlad summoned as a King, and is unaffected by Innocent Monster, however The Legend of Dracula effects Vlad in a different way this time Now It's a full on Noble Phantasm that warps his very Existence However, Vlad III *hates* this Noble Phantasm Understandably so, as it's born of Slander from his enemies that most of the world takes as a representation of who he actually was as a person To the point he literally tried to kill himself when he was forced to activate it. Berserker Vlad however *is* Apocrypha Vlad, just with his "Legend of Dracula" Noble Phantasm activated on summon And mind you he still hates Dracula But he has *Madness Enhancement EX* Now think of Madness Enhancement like this E through A+++ is just a measure of how ANGEREY you are But EX... EX means there is something *fundamentally wrong* with you And for Berserker Dracula, EX Madness Enhancement is *required* just to *not have him kill himself* He still hates Dracula But the Madness Enhancement was needed *to make him willingly use the powers without killing himself* He is still Vlad III however, he has much more powers and strength, and all of the memories of Dracula he struggles with. But he is still Vlad III.

@@vritraofthenite6988Here's the wall of text I was expecting :D

You forgot one thing. In the years that his enemies branded him a monster for his fear tactics, Vlad Tepes was a God revering man as dictated in his Journals found in his home. Yet upon learning of such a monstrous reputation the church abandoned Vlad and supported his enemies. It was at this point that Vlad coined a very famous phrase still used in movies and literature today. That phrase being, "If they want a monster, than I shall give them one".

@@Wolfs0n I had actually forgotten about that, it's rare that someone reminds me of stuff about Vlad Thank you :D

If anyone is curious about which, of the 3 various Vlad IIIs are say, the strongest They are as such In terms of Strength It goes 1- Dracula/Berserker Vlad 2- Romanian Apocrypha Vlad 3- Extra Vlad 4- Apocrypha Vlad outside of Romania Dracula is arguably the most known monster/vampire in the entire world and that leads to a massive amount of legend To the point it's nigh impossible to summon Apocrypha Vlad outside of Romania, because Dracula's legend is just that much more powerful, and in the so rare chance you do, not only is he weaker than usual, Dracula's infamy litterally nerfs him even more. (Funnily enough, it's never been confirmed but there's some hints that if Dracula was outside of Romania and outside of Semiramis's Castle, he might have a Fame Boost) Extra Vlad has insofar only been in Extra, perhaps you can summon him perhaps you can't, so far nothing has expressed you can't, and there's more evidence to the likelihood that you can, than not.

That's why I love Apocrypha Vlad, because on Romenia, he is nearly invincible, being able to face Karna on equal level.

adviel would you consider him doing good?

@@ninjadynasty1132 you need to take in consideration his time period. In his time, what he did was seen as a normal thing.The ottomans are not prone to diplomatic negotiacions.Vlad knew that, and he did the most effective and normal thing a person of that time period could do. The spartans threw babies off of cliffs, samurais killed themselves because of the smallest most insignifficant mistakes.The past was wacky and out of order, so you can't really classify one's actions as good or bad.

HydroAstral XD I asked about you specifically? Ik history is weird

@@ninjadynasty1132 just wanted to voice my opinion If you ask me, someone from the past should be judged in a way that befits that person's time period.Because by modern standards, literally everyone in the past is a maniac and a lunatic.

HydroAstral I think he was a good ruler for his time

Funny you mention that, as in "Fate Apocrypha" he views his Noble Phantasm (The Legend of Dracula) with utmost disdain and even refuses to use it because of his disgust toward that particular part of his "legend".

@@ty85207 yeah in all fate onward he's going to be seen as a lancer who hates the legend I remember hearing about how a group of Muslims came into his court and he asked them to remove there hijabas (I don't know how to spell that word for there religion hat) and they refused so he pretty much Said fine but he nailed it to thier skulls I find that story probably the most interesting

Yep. And both are on the same powerscale.

Although they have things in common they probably wouldn't get along so well. King Arthur was a noble and benevolent ruler. Vlad was a brutal tyrant who ruled with an iron fist slaughtering his own people by the thousands and any nobles who might oppose him. He also did extensive damage to his own country via scorched earth tactics rather than let it fall into the hands of the Turks. Arthur would probably view Vlad's methods as cruel and dishonorable while Vlad would probably view Arthur as a naive idealist like many others.

Honestly now I would wanna see Vlad as an Assassin.

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Benjamin Arredondo :D

Even Gil?

@@VVEmil not Gil, though few can compete with Gil to begin with. Gate of Babylon + Enuma Elish is too broken, but using Gil is unfair to alot of Servants in terms of strength comparison. He definitely would be on par with Top Class Servants like Iskander, Arturia, and even perhaps Ozymandias

Funny franshise, but has barely anything to do with historical vlad and is more or less based on the Myths.

Or hellsing

Yes also that also comes to my mind when I see Elizabeth Bathory and carmilla

In my county we have a bathoris castle or ruin

I did.

Emiko Lina Thank you^^

@@otakudaikun agreed right up there with Morgan Freeman's level of narration.

It’s good enough to voice Gilgamesh.

I'd love to hear Morgan Freeman narrate these.

that would be a good idea

And that’s where Alucard comes in with Seras Victoria aka Police Gal.

Marnette Ryes It's great stuff.

Romulus beat him to it

You honor me^^

Interesting but add crismon

Except he looks younger in the Lostbelt.

Ironically Vlad EXTRA is a hard foil to Apocrypha Vlad because his KB has Anti-Evil properties and the all-class vs Berserker advantages

he did horrible things for a just cause out of desperation. nothing tells us what we would have done if we were in his shoose.....so let's not judge him too harshly, for being the leader of a dersperate country who's oppressed by the kingdoms around him is definitely a harsh task.

Well fion is actually really op in lore( he is basically irland's Arthur). He just got memed because his gameplay sucks

what is it with the Nero Vlad fanart ? do people like shipping them for whatever reason O_o

He's Uncle Vlad to Nero and Liz. Kinda strange.

shoudln't Liz be his aunt cause you know Carmilla was writen before Dracula ? but that will be strange because she's younger then him

@@aminebachir3394 Elizabeth bathory is actually his distant niece. Not the other way around.

In theory you only need Seven to reach the root, the purpose of the servants Is not to increase the power of the grail,is just to open a gate

I'm not sure how different Extra Vlad is from the main one.

@@otakudaikun fair enough.

@@otakudaikun well i can give some insight into vlad Extra.You see in Extra he is summoned with the noble phantasm "Protection of faith rank A+++" its a sort of divine protection made from the servants very faith then an actual divine entity actually giving it to them.the biggest draw back is the higher the rank in the skill the more crazy the servant tends to be...like a form of madness enchantment.the vlad of Extra is the human side of vlad much closer to who he was in real life while the berserker vlad (the vlad in this video) is the one closer to "Legend of Dracula" the reason he is lancer and has this form is he is summoned in his home country where he is the strongest and most logical. As Described in Fate Go "He looks acts like a Berserker , but in his eyes you can see the last bits of his sanity . the emotions of a Knight who believes in true love and tries to protect the one fragment he has left"

Caster Gilgamesh I'm impressed.

@@FurrySupportMain exactly what i wanted to know, thanks my man

That certainly makes sense.

Rachel Beckham Eventually. I'm finishing up Apocrypha servants and then I can do Extra and FGO so long as the servant's main story has occurred in NA.

OtakuDaiKun ah okay :3

OtakuDaiKun thank u so much for the awesomeness.

All of them.

Yes.

Abridged Alucard

yup, but becausz there's also a shit ton of stories regarding sun wukong as the monkey king i think the influence would not be much,since a lot of it would be negated.

Same

I need fics of this combined with netflix castlevania, but sadly, these x-overs dont exist.

Looks like Kiritsugu is back on the job killing Zombies again.

Pretty normal for that time tho.

well there's not even evidence to back the idea that dracula's was based off of him....he could also be based of henry the 8ty for all we know...tho the result is there yes.

Swimmingly.

Castlevania's. In Castlevania, he's practically a god, with power over the souls of all monsters.

Yeah, it's the same guy with a different aspect summoned I suppose.

I would assume no to the second question

Huh?

Yuwan I actually haven't. There's tons I still need to do.

Try hellsing too

That's a good question I don't have an answer to.

Siegfried.

Basically the sacrefice?

JJtheSNKKid I'm pretty sure Extra Vlad was an earlier design. As for why he goes from lancer in Apocrypha to berserker in FGO I'm not sure.

Hmm...that makes since.

I guess in FGO he takes on an Uncle role with her.

I thought that was with Liz Bathory?

ThatTrevGuy Both apparently.

Gotcha, I'm not suprised! Vlad would be a great Uncle, if I could roll him.....damn it all gacha....

@@richjerald152 I once managed to roll him. Played him ever since.

It was there as I was still sharing.

OtakuDaiKun oh my god, I must be retarded, then.

ST Armstrong I done goofed