Fate Strange Fake | A Servant That Surpasses Gilgamesh? True Archer Hercules Power Breakdown 

A few people asked where they can read the story here is a link below. There is also an Manga of the story. humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read

No wonder why Fate Strange Fake is no1 requested for anime adaptation in Japan Time to rise up Hercules It's payback time

If anyone other than Ufotable even steps closer to fate strange fake, im going on a war.

Last time Herc had a loli to protecc This time it's Gil The loli protector loses

A servant to surpass metal gear

Just pray that this will become an anime.

it was all cool... then I heard " can steal noble phantasm's" and now I'm like U WOT MATE

Another cool thing about the time true archer called Gil weak. Normally Gil would have lost control if someone did that. But in his case even when Gil was super pissed off he didn't let his guard down because he KNEW he couldn't afford to against him. Oh and true archer later admitted he called Gil weak just to piss him off so gil would make mistakes because without that Herc was hard pressed to get a clear shot in.

For those asking, FSF original servants cannot be added to FGO until it is *finished* being written

Less Scary? He has potential to surpass Gil and he's LESS scary than the one Gil pwnd? *looks at Berserker screaming and charging. Point taken.

I remember all Herc's labors and I wanna know how him cleaning stables will be a noble phantasm. maybe he summons a river?

Now I want this dude in FGO

The second labor is the "Lemaean Hydra", so it's probably him using his Nine Lives technique with his bow (and arrows infused with Hydra poison). That's pretty scary.

I feel like if Strange/Fake were to become an anime, it would completely be a God tier anime. Zero, Stay Night and UBW would give background information and a good example of how a proper holy grail war takes place. Heavens feel would be the darkest route; much more serious and horror like, while also explaining the whole “alter” process and the corrupt holy grail (Salter). Extra/Last encore would show the holy grail war in a more futuristic version and how/what it evolves into in the future. Appcrypha would detail the whole “two factions” idea and how it would play out while also exposing us to the ruler class and their role in a grail war. Grand order would expose us to many more classes such as the extra classes/ “grand” classes, new masters and a HUGE number of different servants from various countries and regions across the world. It would really flesh out the characters and give you an idea of just how many different heroic spirits truly exist such as napoleon, semiramis and Solomon; all of different ethnicities and powerful myths/historical influence (outside of what we regularly see; medusa, arthur, cu chulain and so on). And last but not least, Strange/Fake would break all limits to what we’ve seen; it would be a complete slugfest of overpowered and extremely strong servants, exceeding all other Fate seasons in terms of power and “OP-ness”

And I thought Hercules as a Berserker was badass, this one is even more badass.

if we ever got an event for fate strange in fgo i would NEED TRUE HURK!

Cerberus was nerfed due Herc not being his true owner. If Hades somehow manifests as a servant, then Cerberus will be in his prime. P.S Calling Gil weak was a provoke. Later Herc tells, what he will need a lot of mana and seven day stand to have decent chance againts Gil

'A lot less scary' He'd scare the ever loving weeb out out me in his Avenger form. Don't even get me started on his Regeneration Pandora. That NP is more broken than Merlin and if I say anything more him would be too long. Lol. I love Strange Fake and I await the next volumes

Gil may be the first Hero, but he's not the first thought of when "Mythic Hero" is mentioned. Heracles is. He's the ideal we hold all others to. That gives him weight in our collective unconsciousness. His Legend strides before him like a herald, everyone knows who he is, while Gilgamesh is only known to historians and antiquarians. Who will win when the first and the greatest battle? The question isn't who is more powerful, the question will be who will HUMANITY want to win? A spoiled, cruel ruler who is humanity's original despot, or the redeemed hero who embodies all the greatness of the Gods tempered with a man's failures and regrets? There's a reason humans love the underdog, and why losers turned champion stir the heart of the People.

Lmao Gilgamesh the hypocrite calling emiya a fake yet being a faker himself

Considering the other labours, Herc would be able to summon Artemis' golden hind, a flood, a killer boar, a killer bull, a cow army, maybe dropping the sky on the opponent and he can summon a carniverous horse army. Guess which one I'm excited for.

"He also have battle continuation, which..." Me: gives him guts for 5 turns, right. But how much will he revive with?

"He can shoot arrows 20km away at the speed of sound" It's a mistake, herc was able to shot this arrows from faster then sound (the first arrow he shooted at gil), to even faster than electricity (althought it's quite hard to say how fast it was)(the second arrow) Arrows that are "only" the speed of sound would be quite weak in nasuverse, EMYIA was able to shot arrows at mach 10 or something like that (in HA)

Way to defeat gill easy one just put him in front of every arthuria form he will be broke

So... It only makes sense that Herc would be the one to be so amazing, I mean, even if Gil is the oldest hero, Heracles/Hercules is pretty much known everywhere for being the strongest thing in myth (since Greek myth is the most well known) And to answer who might beat Gil: Achilles stands no chanse, he is good against non Devine opponents, but when Gil can pierce through his armour and can lock Achilles down with the Chanis of Heaven .... The battle is done. Karna? Just as long as Gil does not catch him with the chains Enkidu: Enkidu has the highest chanses of being able but even so, Gil can outdo Enkidu, when they first faught they each finished every trick(in case of Gil his treasure) they had on each other, but since then Gil has taken more and more nps while Enkidu stood the same. People would not believe me, but I think that someone such as Vlad in Romania would actually be able to do it: He does not have divinity so he is not affected as much by the chains Gil does not have a method of getting rid of Vlad's spear from inside Unless EA enters the game Vlad can defend himself with spikes

Still staying loyal to my boi Gilgamesh, his ego does weaken him, though. This was pretty cool, think they'll add him to FGO or would he be too OP?

Can you say 6 star servant

Be funny if he got an opportunity to kill Gil and just as he was going to do it "did you think I forgot about last time ?"

I'm pretty sure Edmond Dantes would defeat Gilgamesh even if he's serious, his np's is so broken and can pretty much counter anything Gilgamesh has to offer. "Enfer Château d'If" allows him to move so fast he can basically escape time and space, it even create afterimages that has physical presence sort of like having clones. This is more than enough speed to dodge the weapons that Gil would shoot at his GoB and close in on him and use his black flames(which can attacks the soul itself therefore can kill immortals such as dead apostles) which Gil has no way of enduring. Aside from that the count also has "Wisdom of Predicament" that can be used to call upon luck if needed and "Attende Esprer" which is a ridiculous recovery skill that can basically bring himself/ others back on track even on the brink of death with increase parameters.

Cerberus is nerfed because of the lack of divine blessing from Hades. Nine Lives really ain't that similar to Tsubame Gaeshi, one is a serious of consecutive attacks, the other is three slashes coming from three different dimensions in three different angles at the time. The homing lasers fired with the bow is the version that is actually simultaneous, instead of consecutive. And none of the Servants you mentioned would be able to defeat Gilgamesh, all of them would get screwed over by the Chains of Heaven. Full divinity Quetzalcoatl would win, with Null Good. Though her actual Servant version isn't that strong.

Alcides is gonna use Reincarnation Pandora on Enkidu to steal Enuma Elish to survive Ea. Either that or he's going to pump Enkidu full of Hydra Venom (because there's no way his 2nd Labour isn't the Hydra Blood Arrows) and either offer a trade, giving Gil the Golden Apples of the Hesperides which will totally be able to cure Enkidu, in exchange for Ea. And then Hippolyta will probably show up and punch Alcides really hard or something. It's a long way off, whatever the case. We'll probably get Archer Herk (True) in FGO before then.

"Herc can steal NPs of other servants" Zerkalot: *touches EA*

I want a Holy Grail war with: Archer gil Caster gil The rest of the other incarnations of Herc NO sheilder, avenger, or ruler.

Gilgamesh is canonically the strongest of all Heroic Spirits, regardless of class.. Even the creator has said if Gilgamesh took every single fight seriously, he'd never lose. His noble phantasm is literally calling upon every noble phantasm that has ever or will ever exist. There's no one single servant who will ever be more powerful than him, lest it breaks canon. But as we all know, he has been defeated, and can be defeated easily. Gilgamesh's weakness is that he's a cocky bitch who see's everyone else as insects. Simply don't give him a chance to rev up to maximum strength and he's easily defeated by servants as canonically weak as Heroic Spirit Emiya, who even in the Archer class, is B tier at best.

Gilgamesh disliked the vid

He sounds like a emiya and herk fusion

You don't need a true archer to beat Gilgamesh, you just have to wait until the plot decides his arrogance will be his downfall. Jokes aside, I love Gilgamesh as a character and I'm happy that he's popular enough to have discussion like this about him =)

Grand Caster (Solomon) and Grand Assassin (King Hassan) can beat Gilgamesh because those two are grand servants.

Can't wait for Alceides to make it to FGO. Really interested to see how they integrate his Avenger aspects. Not to mention his multiple NPs, especially that one NP.

Damn Herc is pissed oh and just for reference this novel reveals that Gil can use Eluma Elish without weilding Ea that what Gil is capable of fighting 100%

Something to think about. So far in the story Alcides is not proving to be overpowered as a result of his transformation. He has lost/rejected his divinity which makes his Noble phantasms lack Divinity which means he is probably weaker than Gilgamesh. I do think that Gilgamesh will lose to him but that is probably because he has an anti Divine Noble Phantasm.

I would love it if Richard the Lionheart would be in FGO

BUT when will we get *grand ruler Gilgamesh* ?

True Archer Heracles became Avenger/ True Archer Alcides. Alcides was his human given name so he uses it instead due to his corruption leading him to despise the Gods.

Ufotable,make this anime PLEASEEE

Gilgamesh: look upon the gate of Babylon and tremble Herc: oh that's cool, mine (Uses Reincarnation pandora) Gilgamesh: s**t

My best servant Line up for each class Sabre: King Richard Lancer: Karna Archer: Gilgamesh Rider: Ozy Assassin: Fafa Hassan Caster: Merlin Berserker: Lancelot

Hes just perfect counter to gilgamesh nothing more

Alkeides imo is worse than normal archer heracles yes he has that nemean lion skin but its only protect againts human made weapon and melee hand to hand attack or conceptual np (Edmon flame etc) can bypass it like shown by jack from hell form and berserker edison. Unlike God hand who protect herc from rank based attack. Also gil already seen reincarnation pandora so he may have some counter up his sleeve (even if alkeides SOMEHOW, stole Ea alkeides wont able to use it since its completely unique existence to gil outside from throne of heroes)

Lest we forget EA was so powerful it was able to kill Tiamat after first hassan opened the door for gil. Any fight gil may loose after is simply because he doesnt try.

Cu can use Evade! True Herc can’t win if he can’t hit him! Jokes aside Archer Herc sounds pretty awesome.

I started to read this... holy crap; im sure Ufotable, Troyca and Cloverworks will fight for the rights to anime this. Alcides will be the SSR version of Herc; total powercreep to the berserker version; the question is how DW will translate all this into a FGO servant. 5 passives, Battle Continuation with steroids, Bravery with moar steroids and another double summon skill like Nero caster or Semiramis, to make him a temporal or permanent avenger, and NP like Raikou's. Who can beat Gilgamesh? someone far weaker maybe my beloved Hippolyta.

It's Herc. The weakest version ( berserker) was almost OP, and in FGO he's a top tier berserker even if he's a 4* one. In Archer form or saber he has access to it's full potential.

#StayTeamGil I believe that Alcides could not take EA since even Shirou copy magic cannot do that...so with this Gil could beat him I hope

If I'm not mistaken Saber found Avalon but hasn't used it yet.

The only reason gil loses any fight is because the writers wrote themselves in a corner with how op he is so they nerf him ie. The corrupted chains not effecting herk

I'm still rooting for Alexander Dumas to rewrite all of Dem noble phantasms LMAO.

Can you do a Super Orion vs archer Hercules if possible?

This is why I absolutely love Hercules he may not be the strongest Berserker but he's my favorite

I believe that his powers are just overpowered ON paper. He had a bit of trouble with Jack, who's one of the weakest servants in that war. He also hasn't curbstomped in fights he's in, like I thought he would have. That doesn't make him weak, he's certainly being set up as a major rival for Gil. I just don't think he's AS powerful as people are hyping him up to be.

Hehehe finally a video about this!

Well in the end it is said that gilgamesh is the strongest servant and can still one shot archer herc with enuma elish

I'm certain that Alcides can defeat Gilgamesh. He has everything he needs to do so.

Wait so it’s basically a holy grail hunger games???

What I want to know is who can defeat Gil if he was being ACTUALLY COMPLETELY SERIOUS. Because keep in mind, that the Gate of Babylon contains every notable and legendary weapon and tool and artifact ever to exist, that's why he has the originals and counters to every servant and Phantasm. So he would do a lot better if he were somehow forced to put off his arrogance and use everything in terms of advantage he has strategically and not hold back. This would mean that he should see the enemy as amusing or beneath himself as to not underestimate it. True Archer Hercules might still beat him, but I want it to be when both if them are at their best for the most-accurate results, and to know more about what both of them are hiding.

Na I don’t believe he can beat Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh is written to be the strongest servant. But I do believe Gilgamesh can be beaten by anyone because Gilgamesh never starts off with his full power.

The dude has finally appeared in manga. He is so strong as expected. He survived against a barrage ,which would kill his zerker self about 100 times (literally) , without a scratch. Waiting for him to appear again.

I need more Greek heroes in this anime series

I wonder how the other labors are incorporated as Noble phantasms, like the belt of hippolyta or the golden apples of the hesperides?

Anyone CAN defeat Gil if you know how to trick his ego and play his weakness. Fucking Shirou beat Gilgamesh. It’s not the muscle, but the brain.

Awsome video kei , i really like the fate lore videos , you consider make more like this?

Gilgamesh is just a one-trick pony; take away his Gates of Babylon and he's nothing. I don't really get the hype behind him honestly. But with his Gate of Babylon, Karna, Shirou Emiya, Vlad the Impaler (in his domain), and arguably (due to their invulnerabilites) Seigfried & Achilles can possibly beat him too.

Archer Herc gives me the chills bro!!. I can only imagine him gaining streangh to lift the world with the 12 labor NB.

Scathach because gate of skye can serve as a counter to Gil enuma elis . And she can summon shit ton of spears that can counter gate of babalyon. Then they gae bolg can be used to kill. She does not have divinity her self which means chains can’t shut her down.

From what i've Alcides is the True Archer so i think he can deafeat like its nothing 😭😭

I know the vid is outdated but some minor corrections Alcides can shoot arrows at the speed of lightning not sound Alcides was bluffing when saying Gil needs EA and calling him weak (he mentions this later)

I dont know much about hercules in mythologies but was he really good with bows or is archer hercules made so that he can get revenge on archer gil after getting rekt in ubw?

Pff gilgamesh and evil herc wouldn't stand a chance against the gacha of fgo

Sorry bro, but do not want to watch it cause i do not want spoilers, also there are many rumors about a posible anime in 2019 and 2020.... Btw Where did you read it?

Incorrect. Gilgamesh is specifically stated to not need Ea to take Alcides down by the narrator.

Pretty sure ea isn't made by humans

I think him claiming that Gil needs Ea to beat him is just him trying to get Gil to show Ea so he could snatch it and become servant god.

See video pic: Archer Hercules with bow? Me: Booo..... Me, realize he can summon creatures like Medea, which is a caster: OK, I take back my word. He must be an overpowered archer.

Alcides doesn't really "surpass" Gilgamesh in the way that you seem to imply in your title(clickbait much?). He is more on par with him because in the end of the day Gil still have EA and busting that thing out is pretty much a game over screen slapped to anybody even Alcides himself. Also yes, Alcides still have a few more NP he could use but more so is Gil. If Gil just took the fight seriously and really fought with his full potential, nobody should be able to defeat him other than those who are higher than him(Grand Servants, Types, Full powered Beasts etc.)

Could Gil survive Abigail opening her keyhole?

Shirou (Worst Mage Ever) can beat Gilgamesh. He already did. -Hunkers down behind pillow fort- *COME AT ME GIL FANBOYS!!!!*

this two would also get along you know having hatred towards the god basically they are the embodiment of Middle Finger to the gods

Can't wait until the 5th volume comes out, and gets a fan translation. Is it true that TM is not adding any of the Strange Fake servant until it's completed?

But wasn't Gilgamesh s gate of Babylon sealed by Ishtar?

Damn, I gotta start reading FSF.

Imagine if Hercules was summoned as an archer in Fate Stay Night

There are things wrong with the analysis regarding Gilgamesh GoB. In the video it is assumed all weapons in the GoB are made by humans leaving aside EA. That is wrong, gilgamesh doesn't have weapons made after his death, but he has divine and demonic weapons not crafted by humans. The ones made before, and not by humans. We know many of these, and we can theorize he has others. Vajra is made by a god. Ig-Alima and Sul-sagana are divine constructs. Harpe was given by gods, Gram and merodach are holy weapons. Of those it is not specified but for me they look as not made by humans. Dáinsleif is made by dwarfs in the original story and in fate we know it is at least a demonic sword. He surely has many more weapons not made by humans we don't know. Then there are a lot of items missing. Even if nine lives worked like tsubame gaeshi, he has "A Defensive Armament that protects against the Multi-Dimensional Refraction Phenomenon, capable of stopping Tsubame Gaeshi as a result". He can also use nine lives himself. And if that isn't enough he has the Shield of the Gods, which is confirmed to resist A+ rank NPs. Who knows what else does he have, that's only stuff we have seen.

Well he is greek so it's only natural for him to be stronger than anyone else

If Archer Hercules is already this broken imagine how broken Orion is. And since Orion left his position as Grand Archer, Hercules is the one who will fill that slot.

the ironic thing is heracles myth is probably inspired by gilgameshs myth if we look how similar tgeir tests to divinities were

Beat Gilgamesh? Even shirou plot armor could beat true archer

Lel , losing divinity made him stronger xD !

Surpass Gil? Who decided that...ahem wrong anime sorry

So in other words, this Hercules's noble phantasm is similar to Head Captain Yamamoto from Bleach with his bankai have multiple abilities.

Honestly, Gil is like Accelerator from To Aru series. They are the strongest at the beginning of the franchise but as the story goes, they become a fighting strength reference object. We've reached the third year of Fate Grand Order, and I can name at least a dozen characters that can defeat Gil. Gil is the best in conventional servants but there are just so many unconventional beings.