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How Strong Is Hercules / Heracles? FATE / STAY NIGHT Berserker's Abilities & Noble Phantasms 

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Did yoy know Heracles' strongest Noble Phantasm wasn't even used in Fate / Stay Night? Let's look at that and all the other things that makes him one of the strongest servants in close quarters / physical combat.
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@damianmiranda2985
@damianmiranda2985 5 лет назад
Since a hero's power is influenced by fame, imagine how hyped the Einzberns must have been when they found out Disney made a Hercules movie
@Autechltd
@Autechltd 5 лет назад
With how rich the Einzbern are, I'm surprised that they didn't fund the Disney movie for that express purpose, then funded the live action one with The Rock in it afterwards.
@hebirokku
@hebirokku 5 лет назад
@@Autechltd Have I got the link for you! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nEOCJeqoWVo.html
@fer8agp
@fer8agp 5 лет назад
The Einzberns must be Disney's fans not only they summoned Heracles but also got Avalon to summon King Arthur
@MrYoyoshi9
@MrYoyoshi9 5 лет назад
That is the power of the third magic:Heaven's funds
@brosephnoonan223
@brosephnoonan223 5 лет назад
*Laughing in homunculus*
@marcknicolas564
@marcknicolas564 5 лет назад
13:03 Hercules: “THIS ISN’T EVEN MY FINAL FORM”
@nothisispatrick4644
@nothisispatrick4644 5 лет назад
If you play FGO you know this guy is basically a one man army.
@Pvsn08
@Pvsn08 5 лет назад
No this is patrick *Man literally too angry to die* *”That motherfucker took a planet buster to the chest and fucking lived” Says local Beast god*
@khanhvo95
@khanhvo95 5 лет назад
Solo Herc with 10 bond CE.
@Kub1na32
@Kub1na32 5 лет назад
SEKAI DE ICHIBAN TSUYOI DAKARA!!!
@k.legendk.legend2712
@k.legendk.legend2712 5 лет назад
I git him Bond 10 and NP 4. He came in my tutorial summon and kept on coming ever since
@campkira
@campkira 5 лет назад
got one in my team.
@nothisispatrick4644
@nothisispatrick4644 5 лет назад
You forgot beserkers secret skill that allows him to transform into an OP car-tank. This skill however was only used once in Carnival Phantasm. *BERSER - CAR*
@marcknicolas564
@marcknicolas564 5 лет назад
LANCER GA SHINDA!!!
@ikiyuz4344
@ikiyuz4344 5 лет назад
No this is patrick please help İ cant breath....
@damnthatsrough970
@damnthatsrough970 5 лет назад
No this is patrick imagine if this was his NP in fate grand order Just BASAKA turn into a car and run over everyone
@omegazx999
@omegazx999 5 лет назад
It was used twice in Carnival Phantasm. The first was the Fuyuki Grand Prix. The second was in the Einzbern Castle(?) special where the Servants actually fight him.
@MrYoyoshi9
@MrYoyoshi9 5 лет назад
It appears since Hollow ataraxia and has a mention in a tiger dojo but I dont remember if it appears, these are extremely important facts
@aidas52
@aidas52 5 лет назад
If you assassin you could quit the Holy grail war? Sir Our Gramps King Hassan has something to say
@pablo9234
@pablo9234 5 лет назад
asasins are actually quite good if you use them if you are supposed to do : not to fight servants but to kill masters
@Pk-yi3wx
@Pk-yi3wx 5 лет назад
*THE EVENING BELL TOLLS*
@kinozen_
@kinozen_ 5 лет назад
You just have to find a way to kill Illya wich even so wouldn't be that easy
@Cybercoin
@Cybercoin 5 лет назад
We're talking about normal Class Servants. Not Grand Class Servants.
@aidas52
@aidas52 5 лет назад
@@Cybercoin Gramps did alow himself to lower from grand to regular
@MT-yh3lm
@MT-yh3lm 4 года назад
I always liked to think that the reason Herucles revived after Ilya died was beacause by protecting her, Hercules had gained another labor
@yogibear0523
@yogibear0523 4 года назад
wasnt the extra labour to kill gil
@matthewallen2273
@matthewallen2273 2 года назад
No, that was battle continuation, it's more evident when he's immediately restored after lethal blows.
@zelnickno.2348
@zelnickno.2348 Год назад
Heracles*
@personagrand5674
@personagrand5674 4 года назад
The thing about Heracles’ Madness Enhancement is that... it’s actually pretty weak, much weaker than you’d think. At Rank B, he is incapable of speech and communication, BUT HE CAN THINK. To an extent, but this has been shown a lot more in Fate Grand Order. In Okeanos, Heracles was capable of discerning the danger of the Ark of the Covenant if it came to contact with a Divine Spirit. So he kept ignoring Asterios and Mash, aiming for Euryale to keep the world from crumbling to nothingness. In his Interludes, Heracles aimed to save children from dragons and was able to consciously protect his master, even under the strongest Madness Enhancement he could be. Even as a Berserker, he was just savage, not wild. He fights with simple strategies with clear goals. And a powerful Berserker with minimal thought is much scarier than a Berserker without thought at all
@matthewallen2273
@matthewallen2273 2 года назад
It's best to take anything in fgo with a dollop of salt, even in it's cannon.
@godzefkiel2686
@godzefkiel2686 2 года назад
@@matthewallen2273 it’s canon and Nasu has written the story himself, we don’t need to take shit with a grain of salt.
@GiganticTumor
@GiganticTumor 2 года назад
The other thing to understand about Mad Enhancement is that AniNews is wrong at least as far as F/SN goes. Illyasviel doesn't repress his Mad Enhancement to make him more biddable. She does it as a form of pretty revenge for the situation she's in and in fact represses any and all stat boosts he'd gain from it. Berserker Heracles pulls off all his feats while being hampered with insanity and not even getting the corresponding buff.
@jonythelegend7414
@jonythelegend7414 2 года назад
His skill "minds eye true" is high enough to offset some of the down terrible parts of madness enhancement, he's also recovered from a madness givin to him by a god which is would imagine is more severe than any holy grail can give him
@lincolnbeckett8791
@lincolnbeckett8791 5 лет назад
Absolutely LOVED the example you gave for how Heracles 12 lives works using Super Smash Bros. Very creative, and funny to watch XD
@o.o9709
@o.o9709 5 лет назад
Still waiting for my boi JESUS CHRIST, imagine the fame boost he'll get
@peynnep6483
@peynnep6483 5 лет назад
I feel like he would'nt fight, more protect the mage/mages that summoned him as he finds a way to defeat the other servant's master without harm, and no damge would fall on him eighter way
@firstcooommment3675
@firstcooommment3675 4 года назад
They better not Waifu him like they did Atilla. Or make him a "ugly bastard", that would actually bring over *strong* negative publicity. And it won't blow over easily.
@wanzuli5485
@wanzuli5485 4 года назад
He probably become a ruler class like Jean
@KenKen-go1nx
@KenKen-go1nx 4 года назад
Jesus Christ as Beserker sounds pretty cool but alas a lot will be mad for it 😂
@XemnasTM
@XemnasTM 4 года назад
First Cooommment that’s probably why they don’t want to touch that concept with a 50 ft pole.
@chaoskinsart3374
@chaoskinsart3374 5 лет назад
He is good at one thing scaring the s**t out of gilgamesh
@thomashare6733
@thomashare6733 5 лет назад
Well Archer/Avenger can.
@ahkilleuskosmos6836
@ahkilleuskosmos6836 5 лет назад
He's good at scaring the shit out of anyone, have you seen this man? If he'd make Michael Myers piss his pants.
@lordofthepatrick
@lordofthepatrick 5 лет назад
And it wasnt even the full power of beserker hercules since illya's body couldn't stand the strain of hercules going all out
@deathstar6998
@deathstar6998 5 лет назад
@@lordofthepatrick No she could because her body is made of magical circuits the reason why Hercules couldn't use Nine lives blade works is that Iiliya forcefully increased the rank of his madness enhancement making him more obidient and overall stronger but taking away his trump card
@MrYoyoshi9
@MrYoyoshi9 5 лет назад
@@deathstar6998 Illya only amped up the madness in battles but the bit about nine lives is not true, he can't use it as Berserker for the madness enhancement yes, but its not like the master can reduce it untill is non existent, it depends of the level of the madness in the summoning, and Herc's was pretty high since the beginning
@wazamdaggerfield8519
@wazamdaggerfield8519 4 года назад
Hercules: you need to kill me 12 times in order to defeat me. Shiki: Hold my glasses
@cynt4416
@cynt4416 4 года назад
Shiki don't kill people. He delete them.
@Sir_Marcus20
@Sir_Marcus20 4 года назад
King Hassan: AZRAEL!
@gregorysaugustine5236
@gregorysaugustine5236 3 года назад
No need for Azrael or Mystic eyes of death perception. Semiramis with her Sikera Usum will eat through all the 12 god hand lives. Since Heracles was originally killed by poison this weakness remains. Robin hood might be able to defeat him with his yew bow if he can pierce Heracles defense.
@mylem6234
@mylem6234 3 года назад
@@gregorysaugustine5236 Actually the poison didn’t kill him but it was very painful so he decided to kill himself by being placed in the a big fire.
@fala5764
@fala5764 2 года назад
@@mylem6234 so what you're saying,is karna would just blitz Heracles.
@forceedge2005
@forceedge2005 5 лет назад
I would love to see Heracles and Achilles have a one v one fist fight like he had with Chirion in Apocrypha. No divine blessing, no weapons, just two famous heroes beating the shit out of each other.
@gogo_zeppeli3759
@gogo_zeppeli3759 5 лет назад
He sure lack MOTOR skills Because he was used as a CAR
@warex4501
@warex4501 5 лет назад
"If you're an assassin you might as well take yourself out of the holy grail war" Unless you're King Hassan.
@judgemasterneimaz8260
@judgemasterneimaz8260 5 лет назад
He could literally one shot any version of Herc.
@Jaksio
@Jaksio 5 лет назад
Or you know. Use assassin as intelligent person and use thier abilities to find and kill Master.
@kelikl
@kelikl 5 лет назад
@@Jaksio Archer also could one shot illya when Berserker was busy beating the living shit out of Saber but shh,we don't talk about it here.
@k.legendk.legend2712
@k.legendk.legend2712 5 лет назад
*EVENING BELL TOLLS INTENSIFIES*
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 5 лет назад
Except that Hassan isn't an assassin.. he is Grand assassin
@TheTruestZero
@TheTruestZero 5 лет назад
Please... Do the Savior of France, The Dragonslayer, The "It is just a stranger swallow" dude next.
@kazune414
@kazune414 5 лет назад
Wonderful video as always please keep up the great work. that being said I do have one minor correction for the information stated in this video. His Archer form as seen in fate strange fake does not have access to God Hand. His Noble Phantasm King's order that allows him to use the 12 Noble phantasms he gathered on his labors is the same as God Hand in that it represents the completion of 12 impossible labors. King's order only manifested because Heracles master deliberately used a combination of special command seals very unique Mage craft and the corrupted mud of the Grail to give him something not quite the same but similar to the dual-class ability thus giving him attributes of the Avenger class. It is this process that fully removes all of Heracles divinity making him a mortal. the noble Phantasm of God hand is explicitly tied to his divinity and the fact that he became a full-blown God after his death, with it gone God Hand can no longer be present but because Heracles isn't Heracles unless he has a noble Phantasm representing the completion of the 12 labors King's order manifests as a side effect. before he was corrupted and he was initially summoned as an Archer he did in fact have access to god hand as well as nine lives via his Hydra bow and possibly the Pelt of the the nemean lion...... but that changes immediately after being corrupted into a Avenger / Archer. So as far as We Know King's order and God Hand are mutually exclusive Noble phantasms or perhaps two sides of the same Noble Phantasm that can't be used at the same time.
@k.legendk.legend2712
@k.legendk.legend2712 5 лет назад
Lol could you imagine how OP that would be to have 12 noble phantasms, 12 lives, and all of your fighting knowledge and skills.
@jonatassilva2605
@jonatassilva2605 5 лет назад
To correct your correction, It actually DOES have God Hand. However Alcides, the corrupted archer from Strange Fake does not.
@zasshulad2619
@zasshulad2619 5 лет назад
Correction Heracles archer has the pelt of the nemean lion when he is summoned according to book 3 of the light novel that means he has at least part of Kings Order and it's Implied that he has Gods Hand meaning they likely aren't mutually exclusive though even if they aren't mutually exclusive they might be limited since the only visible one of the 12 is the pelt.
@MajorLawliet
@MajorLawliet 5 лет назад
@@jonatassilva2605 What Jonatas said. Herakles comes with God Hand as per normal in his Archer variant, is just shit happened and he lost his Divinity, and by extension God Hand, so something had to replace the nonexistence of some proof that he did indeed circumvent the 12 labors. That's what King's Order is about.
@zasshulad2619
@zasshulad2619 5 лет назад
@@MajorLawliet No he has at least some of Kings Order before he rejected his divinity Reincarnation Pandora actually replaces God Hand.
@caliveil1627
@caliveil1627 5 лет назад
So Hercules' 12 lives makes him basically doomsday
@Terry.sd_Whittle
@Terry.sd_Whittle 5 лет назад
Doomsday with a HUGE ASS Axe blade and GODSPEED. Doomsday with arrows sounds terrifying- yet awesome
@jonatassilva2605
@jonatassilva2605 5 лет назад
@@Terry.sd_Whittle by the way, Arrows covered in Hydra's blood, that is know to be able to kill even imortal beigns.
@Explodingstrawberry125
@Explodingstrawberry125 5 лет назад
omg yes. They even have a similar color scheme!
@MajorLawliet
@MajorLawliet 5 лет назад
@@jonatassilva2605 Hurt, not kill. Chiron only died because he resinded his immortality to finally die and stop the horrible pain assaulting him from the poison.
@iMuscle15O6
@iMuscle15O6 4 года назад
Strange to think of Hercules as a violent, ruthless, scary and evil-looking giant
@pablo9234
@pablo9234 4 года назад
Not surprising at all when you see his original legend
@thirtydindy701
@thirtydindy701 4 года назад
Look up alcides he looks like a Chad
@brosephnoonan223
@brosephnoonan223 5 лет назад
_"Herakles... IS THE STRONGEST HEROIN THE WOOOOOOOOOORLD!!"_ - Illyasviel von Einsbern
@sebastianchavez1225
@sebastianchavez1225 4 года назад
You forgot his secret noble fantasm "Errand Hero" which raises his luck to A+ when sent to buy batteries.
@christianbacalso6141
@christianbacalso6141 5 лет назад
Mentions Sparticus, *Tears falling from eyes* "Jump" "Oppression!!"
@pablo9234
@pablo9234 5 лет назад
i got that reference
@fellowman8796
@fellowman8796 5 лет назад
Man, I really do hope that lostbelt 5 gives us archer heracles.
@stevekujo8716
@stevekujo8716 5 лет назад
Well I'm pretty sure it's set in Greece or Atlantis so maybe
@derpi3438
@derpi3438 4 года назад
Nothing yet but at least we got Orion. Maybe the second part?
@connorc5613
@connorc5613 4 года назад
Not in the second part either
@yourdoom6554
@yourdoom6554 5 лет назад
A very interesting point to be made about Heracles: Gilgamesh himself said that if Heracles wasn't so focused on protecting Illya, he probably would have pushed Gil far further than he had in their fight. So the only real reason why Heracles lost was because of plot convenience. And protecting the most adorable daughter to exist on the face of the planet.
@tenshionslifer3031
@tenshionslifer3031 5 лет назад
*Homonculus
@gilgamesh5154
@gilgamesh5154 5 лет назад
Can you talk about iscandar
@ThurpOfficial
@ThurpOfficial 4 года назад
WELL IF IT ISN'T THE KING OF HEROS AND POSSIBLY THE ENTIRE WORLD
@adreasarxontakis5954
@adreasarxontakis5954 4 года назад
For you it’s Alexander the Great.
@zycon7619
@zycon7619 5 лет назад
Do fate strange fake heracles next!!!
@xeno4445
@xeno4445 5 лет назад
did strange fake even reveal all his noble phantasms yet?
@sora1sky922
@sora1sky922 5 лет назад
They actually didn't reveal all of his NP lol
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 5 лет назад
He *can* beat Gilgamesh, but if You were caught up, you would know that Gil will *always* take him seriously, so the whole "Gil will be arrogant" argument goes out the window
@dcd3lt4
@dcd3lt4 5 лет назад
Hold up, wasn't f/strange heracles the true archer?
@MonoReaper
@MonoReaper 5 лет назад
@@dcd3lt4 No the master who summoend Heracles tempered with the summoneing ritual (like the Einzerbns did to summon either a Ruler or Avenger) and corrupted him on purpose in order to give him the "fake" dual class of Avenger/Archer. Which is why Heracles again got cockblocked to unleash his true potenial. Aka due the corruption & Avenger Class instead of his true NP as a Archer he got Kings Order.
@sorcierenoire8651
@sorcierenoire8651 5 лет назад
*uses Avenger Heracles as an example in the Archer Class NOW IM TRIGGERED
@RuBy-hh6dz
@RuBy-hh6dz 5 лет назад
Liga Tron Jr. he’s an Avenger/Archer hybrid so it still works.
@liammercado1235
@liammercado1235 4 года назад
@@RuBy-hh6dz so is archer herc still stronger than that?
@whatifarchon1762
@whatifarchon1762 3 года назад
@@liammercado1235 very much so
@clementgoh9270
@clementgoh9270 3 года назад
@@whatifarchon1762 well it depends honestly. Archer Heracles has access to God's hand but Alcides has king's order. He has multiple familiars in the form of the Stymphalian birds, the mares of Diomedes and the Cerberus, a pelt which deflects all man made weaponry, the sash of Hippolyta which boosts his weapons and an NP that allows him to steal a noble phantasm and use it as his own. Alcides might not seem as strong initially but he does make up for the loss of God's hand with a wider range of tools.
@frogking307
@frogking307 5 лет назад
If you do the servants for the Camelot and Babylonia anime you might be a little to overwhelmed but nevertheless I would like to see you cover them.
@tenshionslifer3031
@tenshionslifer3031 5 лет назад
Just want CasGil
@Kriviach
@Kriviach 2 года назад
damn, u didnt cover the rest of the fate/stay night servants? well damn, I hope u do eventually, cus this is fascinating
@imaginarysora969
@imaginarysora969 5 лет назад
This guy is seriously broken imagine if he could also use Nine lives in Fate stay night...
@liammercado1235
@liammercado1235 4 года назад
I know this is long but please bare with me but imagine this, you know that scene from Free people use for memes, the one where the dude is sleeping in class then he dives onto his table, take that scene but replace the diving scene with Gilgamesh getting surprise attacked by Heracles then on the table impact scene imagine a sleeping Gilgamesh from Babylonia suddenly whipping his head back with so much force he hits his head on his throne, and the whole time think of the terrifying falling down and hitting the floor feeling we all experience at one point in our life. That is what Heracles with nine lives would feel like.
@faromon3
@faromon3 5 лет назад
Sooooooooo uuuhh.. He's Fate's Doomsday? That's heckin' sweet. Super strong, super fast, a savage beast that still knows how to fight against others with skill and win. And of course, regeneration and resurrection that makes him immune or resistant to things that have killed or hurt him in the past.
@thomaschitham3487
@thomaschitham3487 5 лет назад
Just add a protective care for a child, and you have a pretty good description of him.
@mikedanielespeja6128
@mikedanielespeja6128 5 лет назад
Basically, wholesome Doomsday.
@julio.dealmeidabranconeto5831
@julio.dealmeidabranconeto5831 2 года назад
Daddy doomsday.
@groovysenseitaylor3892
@groovysenseitaylor3892 2 года назад
Archer heracles? love your style bro. more fate series? your the best source on youtube
@sergiovarela8907
@sergiovarela8907 5 лет назад
"the only servant in the holy grail war capable to defeat heracles is gilgamesh" Saber Alter begs to differ
@rrancab9782
@rrancab9782 4 года назад
i thought he said this holy grail war
@zael7292
@zael7292 4 года назад
Heracles> salter she won cuz of the shadow and grail mud debilitating herc
@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221
@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221 4 года назад
@@zael7292 And the fact that Salter was able to keep spamming her Noble Phantasm so much
@josipfiala7102
@josipfiala7102 4 года назад
Reason why she won is bc even tho herc can regenerate,its kinda slow regeneration not instant one,and saber can fire up excalibur faster than herc can regenerate,and ofc shes corrupted version of saber,I doubt herc would win bc not only she has an unlimited mana source but also herc has 12 lives what can be wasted on many ways,and ofc saber is always stronger class
@MadZwe1
@MadZwe1 4 года назад
@@josipfiala7102 The class actually doesn't matter at all in real case, btw. Saber class is GENERALLY the strongest class because they are offensive class with good abilities plus not Berserkers. But there isn't Class Advantage like in the game (FGO). FGO story doesn't have class advantage as well. It only exists as a game mechanism. Assassin class is GENERALLY the weakest because they are awful in actual combat outside of sneak attack. But for King Hassan, the class is MERELY an identification for his ability. So, it is wrong to say that Salter is stronger because of being a Saber.
@thenamedoesnotmatter
@thenamedoesnotmatter 5 лет назад
Archer Heracles is really OP, but Nasu really does have a soft spot for Riders. Caesar if he was in his proper class as a Rider (not a saber) would be at his peak performance for instance. And Heracles is no stranger to mounted beasts. He would be just like a stronger Achilles, and could probably roflstomp the entire grail war just like Achilles could have in Apocrypha.
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 2 года назад
Herc has multiple choices for a mount, arion the child of Poseidon, diomedes mares, the chariot of helios, the cretan bull etc
@fredericdong2318
@fredericdong2318 5 лет назад
What about if Berseker fight Iskandar and his army ?? it would be really fun to watch
@Haiphong778
@Haiphong778 5 лет назад
Poor army T_T I think since Iskandar's army does not summon with their Noble Phantasms, they would be unable to hurt Herc. He would just kind of wade through them on the battlefield. Iskandar would be better off saving his (and his master's) mana by not deploying Ionioi Hetairoi. His horse and weapon probably count as noble phantasms that could damage herc, unsure if he has 12 though.
@fredericdong2318
@fredericdong2318 5 лет назад
Yeah , but i still want to see that
@thomaschitham3487
@thomaschitham3487 5 лет назад
@@Haiphong778 Don't forget, it doesn't have to be an A-ranked Noble Phantasm; any A-ranked attack will be able to harm him, whether it is just physical damage or a magic spell. It is noted that, not only are the soldiers not limited by class containers, but there are many who are stronger or more skilled than Iskandar or have abilities he does not possess, since his main feats was his conquering ability and being able to win hearts. So there could very well be a few people in there who could wrestle with Hercules, at the very least damage him.
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 5 лет назад
*Madara Uchiha vs allied shinobi forces* ^ this would happen
@thanoosudom6980
@thanoosudom6980 5 лет назад
Funny thought... since historically... Iskandar... Alexander the Great himself worship such legendary hero like Achilles and Hercules. So... If that happen... I think he might be in the stage of fanboying while thirst for a fight with one of his Idol at the same time. Well... If he actually learn who Berserker is...
@maartenboy37
@maartenboy37 4 года назад
We need a vid about how Archer killed him 6 times in the Fate route.
@Kingless213
@Kingless213 4 года назад
King *ahem* Queen Aurthor and Merlin are some of the best known servants that I can think of
@morgoth6273
@morgoth6273 5 лет назад
The dislikes are from Gilgamesh
@tenshionslifer3031
@tenshionslifer3031 5 лет назад
@@neophrem2408 Why would we bother to dislike mongrel's work No matter what, they're mongrel
@tenshionslifer3031
@tenshionslifer3031 5 лет назад
@@neophrem2408 You hate someone who's entittled the 1st hero is human history just because he's an OP and egoist character
@sleepylutfi3552
@sleepylutfi3552 3 года назад
@@neophrem2408 Mongrel
@sangletan6756
@sangletan6756 5 лет назад
Calibur took him 7 lives HOW?!
@justinthompson6364
@justinthompson6364 5 лет назад
Are you talking about Excalibur? Or Caliburn?
@peynnep6483
@peynnep6483 5 лет назад
plot armored sword or something? useally protagonists have plotarmor as an invisible armor, bu Shirou fing emiya seem to can acutally give form to plotarmor and use it for attack :D
@MadZwe1
@MadZwe1 4 года назад
@Nasuverse Fan Ofc Heracles would survive. Salter only killed him thrice before Excalibur Morgan (which should take at least 7 lives, if not, more due to Mana Burst).So, Heracles would be left with at most 2 lives. Even if he only has one life, Heracles would likely win as I doubt Salter has another way of killing him. (I just say all these because your comment seems to imply that Salter would lose because she is weak. If it wasn't your intention, I'm sorry) Why isn't the fight canon? Is it because it is not from the VN? Or is it because you think it doesn't make sense? The fight makes sense since she can do all that with the unlimited mana she is given.
@MadZwe1
@MadZwe1 4 года назад
Why is Caliburn taking 7 lives surprising? Excalibur can do the same, and even one-shot him if unsealed. I'm pretty sure there are also other NPs which can kill him several lives. EA, and probably Pashupata, Vasvi Shakti as well as Rhongomyniad (unsealed) can one-shot Herc.
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 2 года назад
@@MadZwe1 caliburn is ranked B but the plot armor is ranked so high its stated it rises to A when they used it
@ryuuronin9852
@ryuuronin9852 5 лет назад
It really says something when the only servants that can match him in physical stats are literal monsters (I.e. Asterious, Cu Alter, Gorgon, and Tiamat)!
@jeth2517
@jeth2517 3 года назад
Heracles still carries me in FGO, even in the lostbelt. So many clutch victories won with Castle in Snow CE
@shinobuviemiya5287
@shinobuviemiya5287 5 лет назад
One small tweak Nasu had to retcon the nullification aspect of Hercules god hand. So now he just takes decreased damage from the same attack as opposed to being completely immune to it. (Spoilers) I think it had something to do with Hercules fighting saber alter and she killing him the same way but I honestly don’t remember
@AniNews
@AniNews 5 лет назад
Hnm i didnt know that. Thanks for sharing with us!
@thomaschitham3487
@thomaschitham3487 5 лет назад
@@AniNews Yeah, he described it as "gaining 100 resistance" to what hurt him. Enough to give the illusion that its nullified, but if the same attack was buffed enough they could damage him again. Though, the bit about Saber Alter being able to kill him despite using the same attack may not be entirely true, depending on whether Godhand would count Excalibur and Excalibur Morgan as two separate NPs.
@matthewallen2273
@matthewallen2273 5 лет назад
@@thomaschitham3487 this makes way more sense given what we've seen, he'd be hopeless op and I actually like the retcon better. Excalibur morgan did kill herc several times over, and it's said that medusa's np would kill hercules twice before he killied her years ago. So resistance is gained not straight out nullification.
@MrYoyoshi9
@MrYoyoshi9 5 лет назад
In the VN Alter only kills him with Excalibur and never again, in the movie she killed him a lot tho, but the retcon came from when UBW was airing
@matthewallen2273
@matthewallen2273 5 лет назад
@@MrYoyoshi9 which version of the fight do you prefer? Pre or post retcon?
@PSN_OGRE
@PSN_OGRE 5 лет назад
This is a strange Overlord video.
@duddude321
@duddude321 5 лет назад
Please, Heracles would pick his teeth with Ainz's bones. He'd need all his Floor Guardians to fight with him if he could even hope to win.
@angelopueyygarcia43
@angelopueyygarcia43 5 лет назад
duddude321 r/wooossshhh
@angelopueyygarcia43
@angelopueyygarcia43 5 лет назад
The Bird still waiting for that Shalltear video hahahaha
@johnapple6646
@johnapple6646 5 лет назад
@@angelopueyygarcia43 r/ihavereddit
@o.o9709
@o.o9709 5 лет назад
@@duddude321 You're...joking right?
@blacgoat8916
@blacgoat8916 5 лет назад
Need that Archer Hercules video!He is sooo bad ass, they need to animate that manga just for his fight scene!
@kailevil3444
@kailevil3444 4 года назад
Something that it's interesting too about his Madness enhanchment, in Fate Grand Order, it's that he can even get more powerful when you make him succumb more to it. And when you think that he can't even succumb more and get more powerful, he still have his sanity so that means that he can get more powerful.
@8bitutopia182
@8bitutopia182 5 лет назад
Bless my soul, Herc is on a roll~ But seriously, Herc is a BADASS. I know Archer is probably one of the best classes for him, but I recall a source saying Saber Herc would be devastating as well.
@abouken6434
@abouken6434 5 лет назад
Thank you very much for bringing back the Fate videos. I really enjoy these and i hope you can make more in the future.
@nakveeremanraza9886
@nakveeremanraza9886 4 года назад
Over a year and still no Archer Heracles. We aren't even getting him on FGO. Please cover the Archer version
@thirtydindy701
@thirtydindy701 4 года назад
Dude I want alcides in fgo so badly
@linksab9568
@linksab9568 5 лет назад
Will you do such a spotlight for Ozymandias? (Ramses II)
@JeffCJY
@JeffCJY 5 лет назад
I want to remind everyone that Hercules in the original legend was strong enough to hold up the ENTIRE SKY ON HIS OWN. If someone was able to summon him with that strength it's like summoning One-Punch Man .
@zaberfang
@zaberfang 5 лет назад
Basically, Heracles is Nasu's magical version of Doomsday.
@matthewallen2273
@matthewallen2273 2 года назад
2:21 Somewhat loyal? Dude, Herc essentially adopted her!
@netrolancer1061
@netrolancer1061 4 года назад
If I had Hercules and I knew that I was fighting Gilgamesh (in real life), I would probably use 2 or all 3 of my command seals just to defeat him.
@ssjokg4952
@ssjokg4952 5 лет назад
A few minor corrections:all of his stock of lives will restocked in 3 days, not just 2 lives.While in the UBW anime they mentioned the 3 days rule for the 2 lives he lost from Archer and Saber, in the VN when he fought Archer he lost 6 lives and Ilya said, again, that he needs 3 days to return to full power.So even if you kill him 11 times if he leaves then everything you did was pointless after only 3 days. In FGO he has his motor skills but he loses God Hand(an excuse for the lack of skill or NP that gives us 12 lives). Herc was always "sane" when it came to Ilya.Him being protective of her isnt a result of their training. And the "nullification" thing had a retcon.OR to be more precise that was a mistaken interpretation.He doesnt gain nullification. He becomes ridiculously resistant to that attack. So it is like he gain +9999 resistance. You could probably scratch him with the same attack but that was all.
@MrYoyoshi9
@MrYoyoshi9 5 лет назад
For the live regen its true that it recovers fully in 3 days but iirc and just to add something, that its only because Illya is her master and supplies a ton of energy , like with any other master the full stock of lives will still recover with time but not in just 3 days
@ssjokg4952
@ssjokg4952 5 лет назад
@@MrYoyoshi9 I thought the stock regen was a thing at all because of Ilya. As in a normal Master wouldnt be able to give enough mana for any restock.
@MrYoyoshi9
@MrYoyoshi9 5 лет назад
@@ssjokg4952 I checked you are right, well is not only Illya, everyone that could provide enough,like Medea or someone else that took the time to collect energy could do it,but is not an everyday thing, and certainly refilling all 12 is even more difficult
@theanimeunderworld8338
@theanimeunderworld8338 5 лет назад
Please do Archer Heracles
@darkbeast6499
@darkbeast6499 5 лет назад
Will see Nine Live's in Fate Stay Night Heaven's Feel lll Spring Song when Shiro Emiya uses it.
@masterblaster5186
@masterblaster5186 5 лет назад
Just a correction: Heracles usually doesnt get Kings Order, only his corrupted Alter version can get as compensation for not having God Hand, losing his divinity and stats along the board and reducing his body mass to more normal levels . Until now Archer Heracles was only hinted at the very start (where its shown hes as huge as his Berserker version) before was corrupted into a hybrid Archer/Avenger form that changed him completetly Proper Heracles Archer do have Nine Lives and God Hand. It canbe possible that he might have some of the items he got on his adventures like the Nemean pelt or Ares Sash but he wont be having the 12 NPs of Kings order at once
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 2 года назад
That's in the strange fake story if nasu incorporates archer herc he can very well give him kings order but change certain abilities
@captaincharlemagne
@captaincharlemagne 5 лет назад
If Heracles didnt have madness enhancement I still believe Heracles would be victorious against gilgamesh he is the greatest hero of greace but also is has wild wide fame like achilles
@clintonbell3976
@clintonbell3976 5 лет назад
Totally my favorite servant. Thanks for that video
@benparrish672
@benparrish672 3 года назад
Herc had one of the coolest "Noble Phantasms" in a show with many characters with very coo & unique special moves/"Noble Phantasms" FATE/ZERO is one of my favorite anime. I hope that the arsenal of weapons in the books that I am writing have as much of an impact on the reader.
@Effect_FX
@Effect_FX 5 лет назад
As a side note, it is possible for Lancer to kill Heracles 12 times. Though Heracles has the advantage and the fight would be very difficult.
@1shamanking924
@1shamanking924 4 года назад
you would need 12 diffrent A rank wepons to take him down or on OP weapon
@Sven-wu2ek
@Sven-wu2ek 5 лет назад
So I know it probably wouldn’t be the easiest thing to do, but I really hope you talk about archer Heracles. I find his strongest form to just be badass enough to wanna see.
@OctobersOblivion
@OctobersOblivion 5 лет назад
Dude these are so good please make these videos for all the Fate series
@Crazy21Cal
@Crazy21Cal 5 лет назад
10:01 does this mean that those wolves were capable of inflicting A rank attacks?
@daandriod
@daandriod 4 года назад
I think Ufotable took some liberty's on that account in general. Hell even in his fight with Saber, Her sword is only a C rank when its cloaked. Following the lore perfectly would mean the blade wouldn't even be able to cut him, Yet in the fight we see it pierce his hand through and leave cuts on his body. Either that or the Einzbern's are stupid for even bothering with a servant when they could just start raising an army of Wolfs
@r.k845
@r.k845 4 года назад
A RANK WOLVES
@theoa701
@theoa701 3 года назад
I'm two years late, but in the anime Heracles' skin turns red when God Hand is activated. You can see this happening when he fights Saber ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tO_KfDMuN0c.html ). In this scene, he purposely doesn't turn it on because it would cause mana to be drained from Illya, who is already injured and on the ground.
@UselessNekoGang
@UselessNekoGang 5 лет назад
This guy is literally a greatsword user in monster hunter, don’t even @ me.
@r.k845
@r.k845 4 года назад
When shirou uses 9 lives in HF it straight up looks like he's using a great sword in monster hunter.
@evanolsen6925
@evanolsen6925 3 года назад
“Some that can take all 12 lives” The stage is set, Awaken Ea! Enuma Eilish!
@jacobrobuck7260
@jacobrobuck7260 2 года назад
This man out here soundin like he fates version of doomsday
@BronyLord-wo1ym
@BronyLord-wo1ym 4 года назад
Berserker is almost like *DOOMSDAY* the DC Character.
@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS
Glad to see you returning to the Fate content! been a long time since you last uploaded a fate video. Also, are we going to get more videos on the Fate/extra servants that weren't covered like Gawain and Li Shuen?
@AniNews
@AniNews 5 лет назад
Ya its been a while but I do love fate so these videos will probs stay for a while. Though fate extra isnt one of my current priorities but perhaps after a few more fsn servants i can
@zacharywilson419
@zacharywilson419 5 лет назад
Thanks for putting this video out it was worth the wait. 👍
@AniNews
@AniNews 5 лет назад
Np. sorry for the extremely long delay haha
@zacharywilson419
@zacharywilson419 5 лет назад
AniNews all good
@harrycao756
@harrycao756 5 лет назад
Bro I want one of his noble phantasms to just be a deceptively strong lyre that he just beats the shit out of people with, that'd be fucking cool
@AniNews
@AniNews 5 лет назад
Lmfao. Weaponized harp of death
@bestowalternative2801
@bestowalternative2801 5 лет назад
Not really a fun of fate , didn't watch it yet but i will still watch this video just to support the chanel x)
@AniNews
@AniNews 5 лет назад
@user-vd5vm8ub6g
@user-vd5vm8ub6g 5 лет назад
Hercules...is he a lolic.... *smash* WTF !? HERCULES !!!??? AGHHHHH
@thelostone2694
@thelostone2694 5 лет назад
I just love this scene in UBW where Herc while dead with his last effort rips enkidu off of himself flexing like a god he is and go for Gils face. Also it's a pity that in HF movie they nerfed or removed his resistance to attacks because I was reading forums and apparently you can still kill Herc with the same attack if this attack deals 200% more damage that previous killing blow. Because the fight while extremely entertaining was too much dominated be Salter, and you know it when your boy Herc connect his fist to you and you just tank it
@Haiphong778
@Haiphong778 5 лет назад
Gread video! I love Herc! I think he neglected to note, though, that apparently you can take "multiple lives" with a single attack. It doesn't really make much sense but Fate does kind of have a "gamey" system working behind it. I guess if you hit him hard enough to deplete his lifebar multiple times, it counts as multiple kills? To my knowledge this only happens in Stay Night so maybe it's more disputable than other sources.
@matthewallen2273
@matthewallen2273 5 лет назад
This is how I think it works, say saber blows away his heart, his resurrection magic heals the damage, then she blows away his whole left side, the damage is too great for 1 resurrection spell so 2 are uesd. I think there is a too a great a difference between healing a lethal wound and regenerating 60% of the body for the magic.
@MonoReaper
@MonoReaper 5 лет назад
Calibur took 5-6 lives in one hit. And in the Heavenfeel Route Excalibur took 6 lives from Heracles. So yeah depending on the weapon & conceptual NP the bonus lives dont mean much.
@gilgamesh5154
@gilgamesh5154 5 лет назад
But in the second film heaven's feel saber kill barseker several time with the same attack u need explication bro
@lancehvu
@lancehvu 5 лет назад
I learned from some guys that Nasu retconned the immunity part of God Hand when he was talking about the UBW anime and replaced it with just him becoming extremely resilient to the attack
@gilgamesh5154
@gilgamesh5154 5 лет назад
@@lancehvu ok thanks
@Masterblader158
@Masterblader158 5 лет назад
*Lancer Cú Chulainn holds the Gáe Bulg in his toes* "Give up Hercules I can end you in one hit now with my Spears true power"
@EnriqueMunozOnline
@EnriqueMunozOnline 5 лет назад
FINALLY I was waiting for this!!
@georgemunoz3667
@georgemunoz3667 5 лет назад
Please do archer Hercules I got so hyped watching this video
@SuperAmaton
@SuperAmaton 5 лет назад
Uh no, Alcides doesn't have God Hand, instead he has King's Order. At least to my knowledge.
@SuperAmaton
@SuperAmaton 5 лет назад
13:03 - 13:10 That is what i was talking about, i am more than aware of the diffrences between Berserer Hercules and Avenger/Archer Alcides since i had to avidly defend him from people saying he couldn't beat Gilgamesh. And yes, i think he could do it, he seems more suited to the job than Enkidu himself.
@pablo9234
@pablo9234 5 лет назад
I think that he traded god hand for reincarnation Pandora instead, but yeah he lost it
@SuperAmaton
@SuperAmaton 5 лет назад
@Datu Kula I'm certain he can steal Ea. If he can steal something as abstract as From Hell from Jack, stealing Ea who is an actual object should be easy.
@tenshionslifer3031
@tenshionslifer3031 5 лет назад
@@SuperAmaton You mongrel immotal maniac priest, EA solely belongs to Gil
@trinhlong4204
@trinhlong4204 5 лет назад
@Datu Kula sorry but archer herc is no match with gil cuz of EA, the only thing keep Alcides outclassed gil is Np Reincarnation Pandora
@lordofthepatrick
@lordofthepatrick 5 лет назад
He forgot to mention that during the war hercules wasnt even using his full power because illya's body couldn't withstand the strain of it and she reminded hercules of his daughter so he didn't want to hurt her
@deathstar6998
@deathstar6998 5 лет назад
Not true, again Hercules could go all out since her body was made of magical circuits he could do even better than with a regular mage, the reason why he didnt was that Iiliya drove up his madness enhancement up a rank
@izukara4310
@izukara4310 5 лет назад
She's the lesser Grail itself lol
@23gameoverlord
@23gameoverlord 5 лет назад
finally we get the 2nd part of Heracle's segment. i thought you dropped it after his lore video.
@23gameoverlord
@23gameoverlord 5 лет назад
i wanna hear about Archer Heracles
@AniNews
@AniNews 5 лет назад
Ya its been a while since the last one XD
@Joethefatelover
@Joethefatelover 20 дней назад
It is noted in the fate stay night visuel novel that saber(king arthur) Would be the strongest servant in the fifth holy grail war if not for shirou being her master because she was the only servant in the grail war with A rank in strength Meaning she was the only one Who could harm without using a Noble phantasm plus she could increase her strength Even further by using mana burst Plus if she used excalibur it would take all twelve since Caliburn a less powerful weapon was able to take seven lives So the whole thing with only gilgamesh being able to beat not being entirely accurate And by the way gilgamesh doesnt count as part of the fifth grail war And for anyone Who says that saber couldnt beat berserker If she cant then half of ubw is pointless anyway great video your videos got me into fate And its now my favourite universe of all time😁
@nestorrocha7142
@nestorrocha7142 5 лет назад
Archer pulls him into ubw after running away like a b*tch for a little while a la fate route. At that moment he won. The highest rank weapon inside it would be a most B++ rank thanks to ubw rank down, so he would need to break his B rank and above weapons to kill him, which would take a lot of his reserves and leave him open to getting annahilated, were he not inside ubw. While getting away far enough and getting time to break and shoot his weapons from his bow, he would distract berserker with tidal waves of NPs that are already there. Sure, the weapons couldn't pierce him, but getting struck by literal tidal waves of NPs at supersonic speeds from everysingle direction would likely prevent berserker from moving around much, leaving him open to get shot and killed for the first time. At that moment he lost. While regenerating, archer gets further away and prepares the next shot and aims it so berserker gets hit again just as he finishes reviving. Rinse and repeat until Berserker dies. And to prevent massive magical consumption, instead of breaking NPs, he can just use his highest rank Mystic Codes. Any attack of A and above, be it magecraft of that rank, NPs, Mystic codes, or Physical strength can affect him or kill him. The fight would come down to whether berserker squashes archer before archer deploys UBW.
@aviniciussouza100
@aviniciussouza100 2 года назад
Ehh.... Hercules wasn't running away or anything, he fought Gilgamesh to the very end.
@nestorrocha7142
@nestorrocha7142 2 года назад
@@aviniciussouza100 Eh, no. I meant Emiya Archer doing the running away. Basically outlining a scenario where Emiya could win. Emiya'd just need to play keep away and not get squashed for a bit while he pulls up UBW in a 3 count aria. From there it's gg as long a he has a good enough master to give him enough juice.
@carlosbetancourt7191
@carlosbetancourt7191 5 лет назад
Gilgamesh being the strongest servant Archer(avenger) Hércules: i'm about to end this man hole career
@xrefed
@xrefed 5 лет назад
Hole
@jefterlauglaug8096
@jefterlauglaug8096 5 лет назад
Spoilers: At 13:08 you mentioned that in his Archer form he still got God's Hand which is incorrect because of his master's intervention using command spells and mud from Fuyuki Grail which stripped him off in his divinity and becoming the "human" aspect of Heracles which is Alcides. Instead, he got King's Order where he have a (possibly) total of 12 NPs as a proof of accomplishing those labors tho only 4 were being revealed. P.S. I didn't include Reincarnation Pandora NP because that thing is just a bonus of him transitioning into an Avenger class.
@RealmRabbit
@RealmRabbit Год назад
Another thing that's cool about him was he was able to break the chains that Gilgamesh explains are impossible for a divine being like him to break... But for Heracles that was just another trial for him to accomplish...
@tumiesenamela67
@tumiesenamela67 5 лет назад
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Excalibur killed herc 7 times in a row in the fate route?
@zacharywilson419
@zacharywilson419 5 лет назад
Yes
@MonoReaper
@MonoReaper 5 лет назад
Yes (in the movie 6 times i believe) but Excalibur is a special case aka holy weapon.
@atpr3241
@atpr3241 5 лет назад
*Caliburn. It was also 5 deaths I believe? Archer and Rin collectively killed Berserker 7 times before Saber finished him
@tumiesenamela67
@tumiesenamela67 5 лет назад
@@atpr3241 I knew it was Caliburn. Thank you for the correction
@thomaschitham3487
@thomaschitham3487 5 лет назад
@@tumiesenamela67 Depending on if it's the game or the anime, it's either five or seven. As I said to another guy in the comments, the amount of additional damage needed to take more than one of his lives is not as much as the amount of damage needed to just take one.
@istiqlalpayapo4943
@istiqlalpayapo4943 5 лет назад
the eleventh labour of hercules, he kill ladon, the 100 headed dragon with bow and arrow, maybe the noble phantasm comes from that moment, not the hydra labour cmiiw
@blackeesh463
@blackeesh463 4 года назад
But the hydra has regeneration tied to its head count.ladon is just a dragon with a bunch of heads.
@FB-eg5vb
@FB-eg5vb 3 года назад
@@blackeesh463 the Hydra is still not as impressive as lifting the Sky for three days and he did it all by himself.
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 2 года назад
I think he used it on the hydra but perfected it threw his labours he used it to kill ladon but he couldn't pick the apples so he asked atlas
@detectivepancakes3095
@detectivepancakes3095 2 года назад
Damn, now I just want to know about archer hercules
@mathieu9236
@mathieu9236 2 года назад
God Hand, Very clever, arrow with deadliest poison, Better martial artist in fate with Nine Live, Very high parameter...
@benparrish672
@benparrish672 3 года назад
I can't remember the name? but the spell "The Winds of Invisibility" that is cast on EXCALIBUR to make the sword invisible is smart and unique.
@jackerrocker2235
@jackerrocker2235 5 лет назад
Nope Archer Hercules doesn't have 12 live , But he has 12 np from the labours
@RarutoUchiha2
@RarutoUchiha2 5 лет назад
That's Alcides. Archer HERACLES was indeed summoned with God Hand (and the Pelt of the Demonic Beast, at that), the whole reason he got King's Order is because Heracles lost God Hand and he always must have a Noble Phantasm that represents the 12 Labors.
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 5 лет назад
read FSN, don't just read Strange Fake wiki
@aaidenmoore8628
@aaidenmoore8628 3 года назад
@@shutup1037 they are the same thing type moon wiki it has everything from Fate and tsukihime and garden of sinners or Notes or tsuki no sango
@aaidenmoore8628
@aaidenmoore8628 3 года назад
Literally everything type moon
@aaidenmoore8628
@aaidenmoore8628 3 года назад
@@shutup1037 though you probably already know this considering this has been two years
@gilgamesh5154
@gilgamesh5154 5 лет назад
Heracles in the unlimited blade works can he win
@BlackZero95
@BlackZero95 5 лет назад
What are you doing here!??
@Jaksio
@Jaksio 5 лет назад
Yes. Even Shirou admits that UBW effectiveness is weaker against opponent that mastered a single weapon/technique like Arturia, Cu or Heracles. Even EMIYA who was a full blown Servant armed with set of powerful skills and was master at using UBW, AND knowledge about most if not all of Heracles abilities had lost against Heracles in a Fate route.
@gilgamesh5154
@gilgamesh5154 5 лет назад
@@Jaksio yes but heracles don't have an offensif noble fantasme he have a normal weapon so he can't destroy the reality marble
@gilgamesh5154
@gilgamesh5154 5 лет назад
@@Jaksio but in fate route Shiro take 5 life to heracles howww I don't trust the 2006 Anime because it's not juste one route
@regis5112
@regis5112 5 лет назад
EMIYA beating heracle is possible (really difficult but still possible) in the fate route he kill him six time (if I remember correctly) using the ubw, and he was wound by his first encounter with saber
@nopoyiik
@nopoyiik 3 года назад
It was sick when Alter Saber beat him tho 🥴 that new Excalibur was something else
@Spiffy-sd5ix
@Spiffy-sd5ix 5 лет назад
My man! Love these vids. Looking forward to more Fate stuff aaaaaand SUBSCRIBED!
@morgoth6273
@morgoth6273 5 лет назад
I don't think that the Archer class is the best class for Herc, that version of him is a combination between the Archer cllass and the Avenger class, so it's basically 2 class in one servant
@joanjorge566
@joanjorge566 5 лет назад
Morgoth Bauglir he still has all 12 noble phantasams and all his skills even if he wasn’t fused with the avenger class and archer should be his strongest class
@morgoth6273
@morgoth6273 5 лет назад
@@joanjorge566 yes, but still he is an Hybrid between two classes And if he had this noble phantasms as a Archer Class, just think how powerful could he be as a Saber (it may be even greater than an Archer, or just have less noble phantasm and be less powerful as an Archer) or as a Lancer, or just think as the powerful noble phantasm he could get as a Rider Class I am not saying that the Archer class isn't good, is just True Archer is half Avenger And what kind of noble phantasms he could get in another class? The Archer class can be only the half of the potential of this beast
@zacharywilson419
@zacharywilson419 5 лет назад
@@morgoth6273 I think I read some where the Archer class was the one that fit him the best and was the most compatible so it probably is the strongest form even with avenger off.
@morgoth6273
@morgoth6273 5 лет назад
@@zacharywilson419 In that case I take back everything I said, but still I would like to see his noble phantasm as a Rider But still he remains an Hybrid between two classes, so which is stronger? The pure Archer class or the Hybrid AA?
@MonoReaper
@MonoReaper 5 лет назад
@@morgoth6273 Archer Heracles is his strongest form as stated by his legend. Cause with divinity he can acces the full power of the 12 labors aka Godhand. The Avenger Hybrid stuff in Strange Fake in fact weakend him but due the change he gained something else for it. Tho due this he lost his divinity thus he is screwed over again for his full potenial as a Archer.
@fakerweldi7879
@fakerweldi7879 5 лет назад
Archer Heracles kicked Gil ass and i'm sure if Heracles want , he can take EA from Gil and wipe him with it .
@MrYoyoshi9
@MrYoyoshi9 5 лет назад
Im pretty sure he can, Gil was smart for not using it this time, because he was obviously baiting him
@jonatassilva2605
@jonatassilva2605 5 лет назад
Thou keep in mind, that unlike Emiya (and like Lancelot) he would not be able to use Enuma Elish. So he would have the most powerfull EX ranked 2x4 in the nasuverse, and the only way for Gilgamesh to actually defeat him. (Alcides have very low divinity, thanks to the corruption, so not even the chains of heaven would bail Gil out of that situation)
@fakerweldi7879
@fakerweldi7879 5 лет назад
@@jonatassilva2605 EA will be just another Tool for Heracles because all his power is coming from gods , he have a very high divinity,irony even more than Gil , for Heracles he is just trolling Gil for being "Faker"(i love this karma)and because he want to crush Gil(the payback from FSN )but let's say it directly,Heracles i can owned Gil any time he want
@MonoReaper
@MonoReaper 5 лет назад
@@fakerweldi7879 I wouldnt be so sure if Heracles even could steal Ea from Gil. Cause Ea is specificly bound to Gilgamesh and no other Servant could use it if they obtain it in any form (The original not like Emiya who creates a copy due his magic for the strongest bow attack he has) So we would have to actually see that happening in order to judge if he could steal it at all with KO.
@fakerweldi7879
@fakerweldi7879 5 лет назад
@@MonoReaper Heracles CAN USE EVERY DINITY item and EA is one of them and if you dindt know the real irony,Reincarnation Pandora,The reason for its basic existence is to steal anything Divinity
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