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Fate/Zero But With Nightingale Instead 

Tsiah IV
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Another Unsung heroine gets her praise. Its a good day
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@destinitaylor4360
@destinitaylor4360 6 месяцев назад
First of all, Ms Nightingale would have told Kariya to get his shit together real quick lmao
@hades.serapis
@hades.serapis 6 месяцев назад
His whole body bout to be amputated
@mongooseunleashed
@mongooseunleashed 6 месяцев назад
"You're all a disease, and I'm the cure." - Nightingale(probably)
@SK-yx7hm
@SK-yx7hm 6 месяцев назад
Nightingale wouldve killed all the masters because she wouldve been apalled at their lack of health standards.
@uselesshero.official
@uselesshero.official 6 месяцев назад
I doubt she could. She's a good support and all but don't think she could defeat the likes of Diarmuid, Gil, saber or even Ishkander. Lancelot could however if played your cards right way.
@5L1G_Zeref
@5L1G_Zeref 6 месяцев назад
@@uselesshero.officialr/woosh
@Akario3
@Akario3 6 месяцев назад
@@uselesshero.official read again, OP said 'masters', not servants
@uselesshero.official
@uselesshero.official 6 месяцев назад
@@Akario3 yeah and in that attempt do you think Servants won't try to save their masters?
@Akario3
@Akario3 6 месяцев назад
No, they will sit by the side and watch.
@BigLeek1998
@BigLeek1998 6 месяцев назад
Nightingale potentially being an archer just cause she’s throwing the boxes is actually hilarious 😂😭😭
@Silvercomet251
@Silvercomet251 6 месяцев назад
The Archer class is really unique. Honestly I'm waiting for an archer that throws weapons of sand.
@redmustard6354
@redmustard6354 6 месяцев назад
@@Silvercomet251pocket sand
@nervmeister
@nervmeister 6 месяцев назад
@@Silvercomet251 A new pharaoh servant, maybe.
@thefreaks8926
@thefreaks8926 6 месяцев назад
Santa nightingale:
@lopezroilans.8384
@lopezroilans.8384 6 месяцев назад
Those boxes count as projectiles, so yes, Archer class.
@shauqiharris2772
@shauqiharris2772 5 месяцев назад
Nightingale : "I can fixed him."
@AkaRedFallen
@AkaRedFallen 6 месяцев назад
This actually has me thinking of Karia, after learning who his Servant is and what her deal is, constantly trying to get through to her through most of the war to do what he wants. (might even waste a command spell just to get her to stop trying to Surgery him without his consent.) His best option to get her on board with his mission, especially later in the war should he actually take out Tokiomi, but realize the Grail is well beyond his reach, is to connect his health to Sakura's well being. It'd likely come down to something like this... "Listen you Crazy Nurse, the only health that matters to me is the Health of that GIRL! Zoken CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO KEEP INFLICTING THAT HARM ON HER!! Every time he does, THAT HURTS, NO, IT KILLS ME!! You want me to be in good health? YOU WANT TO SAVE ME!?!? SAVE HER! EVEN IF IT KILLS ME!! SAVING SAKURA SAVES ME! GETTING HER BACK TO HER MOTHER SAVES ME! Forget the Grail, forget the wish, just get Sakura back to her family, make sure her mother knows, IN GRAPHIC DETAIL, what Zoken was doing to her and what that would end in. You do that, I win, I Live." Karia slumps in exhaustion after ranting at his stubborn, utterly insane Servant, only for her to do the last thing he expects. "Very well, the surgery parameters are: extracting Sakura Mato ne' Tosaka, returning her to her Mother, updating her mother on the full details of said girl's condition/events leading to it. These conditions will allow for my patient Karia Mato to submit for emergency surgery extraction of the Crest Worms and restoration of his life, abandoning the Holy Grail War. These conditions are sufficient and supplies adequate, though further information on Crest Worms and proper disposal methods alongside Sterilization will be needed. You will provide them as we move out, yes Master?" Karia, gaping for a few seconds, weakly chuckles before saying, ""Sure, ask away. Don't have that many details myself, but I'll tell you all I know. Maybe you can shake some details out of that useless brother of mine, if he's still alive. Failing that, maybe his brat knows where dear old dad keeps the books with more info." As they walk off, the infested Master feels that, finally, he was on the right track to victory, and with this Insane Nurse, he might even live long enough to taste that victory. Of course, he likely Dies proper in the escape, Nightingale living long enough to get Sakura to her mother, explaining in MASSIVE detail, as in HORRIFYING details, what was done to her and using her Noble Phantasm in conjunction with a brutal opening of Sakura to extract all the worms from Sakura before healing her. After that, the combat Nurse will vanish, Sakura being clutch by her now VERY TRAUMATIZED mother, bringing her back to the Tosaka mansion to hide while making plans to go to ground and hide from Zoken, thinking he'll pursue them to get Sakura back. This would have HUGE implications for how Sakura and Rin grow up, hell IF they do should Zoken decide to go after them, they have NO CHANCE. Or, he'd shrug it off as a minor loss as the greater goal was always the Grail, and the events of the final Showdown between Saber, Gil, and Iskander are WAY more important. So yeah, I can see things progressing from there, but no mistake, the end and possible 5th Holy Grail War would look REAL DIFFERENT from Cannon. Hope this was at least worth reading, and if you made it this far, thanks for reading! Hope this was worth your time!
@downix
@downix 6 месяцев назад
I would totally read this as a multi chapter fanfic! Bravo!
@creaturetransylvania8943
@creaturetransylvania8943 6 месяцев назад
Good on this writing.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
Problem is, Kariya was a dumba$$, who couldn't properly communicate to quite literally save his life (look at his fight with Tokiomi; it ran entirely on their respective misunderstandings of each other's motivations). Nightingale is exactly what he needs… but she's wasted on him, because he doesn't have the sanity or intelligence to realize she can just use her NP to remove EVERYONE'S worms… including Zouken's! They are parasites that cause harm, so her NP should shut them down, even if he needs them to live (and if he already placed his soul worm in Sakura's heart, then he's dead)! Even if she couldn't one-shot him, Zouken can't actually beat her (her NP negates anything he can do that would cause her, Kariya, or Sakura any harm), and Kariya can just take Sakura and flee after Nightingale trashes the Matou Manor so badly that Zouken will likely never recover. Killing enough worms will harm him and he is already living on borrowed time. Nightingale wiping out most of the worms and bringing the Manor down will be a death sentence for Zouken. Kariya's sole reason for not betraying Zouken is the worms. As long as he and Sakura have worms inside of them, Zouken owns them. A Servant who can safely remove the worms shuts down 99% of Zouken's threat, cuz' he isn't soloing most Servants. Kariya needs to realize he got literally the best Servant he could ask for. The only better option might be Medea Lily or Asclepius, and Zouken would be on-guard against Casters, but might dismiss a non-magical nurse who was summoned as a Berserker.
@AkaRedFallen
@AkaRedFallen 5 месяцев назад
@@OmniGman Excellent points friend!! My only uncertainty is whether her NP really WOULD be all she needed. Note in my description she still had to remove the worms manually, as there are uncertainties if their status as familiars may make them resistant to the NP itself. That’s the big rub of the whole thing, familiars despite everything might have status enough to resist, and if enough do survive, that attempt ends in Kariya, Sakura, and Nightingale’s ends, it’s a big risk. Say what you will about the mad doctor, she’ll make sure the highest chance of success is taken, even if that means a few limbs are lost! All that said, Kariya being…well him is why his speech comes half-way through the war, he only even makes the speech because he’s fed up with her behavior, used 2 Command seals just to get her to stop trying to open HIM up to remove the worms, which are how he’s fueling her in the process since he is NOT a trained mage. Suffice to say, I agree with you, but his situation has nuance and while I may have portrayed that poorly, we should also keep in mind Kariya isn’t our Gudako/Fujimaru from Chaldea who has assistance in magic maintaining their servants/fueling NP. He’d at best get one shot, and that’s got to count.
@absjustabs.9839
@absjustabs.9839 6 месяцев назад
Nightingale my beloved.
@DogDudeRulez
@DogDudeRulez 6 месяцев назад
i think it would be an interesting dynamic between karia and Knightingale, the man throwing away his life and Knightingale the Berzerker medic who would take up the fight to stop the killing. Its also ironic that in order to use her NP which heals targets and takes the fight out of her opponents, Karia would have to shorten the already dwindling life he has given up for the war. Literal opposites but i kind of dig the dynamic
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 6 месяцев назад
If her ability doesn't outright purge them from his system. Or more so if the healing doesn't out heal the damage being done to him. Also not even taking into account how much mana would it realistically actually take for her NP to use?
@downix
@downix 6 месяцев назад
Now I am imagining her hunting down Giles in order to steal his mana stash, possibly even crippling his master in the process, in order to heal Karia without causing more harm.
@chrisjulien7698
@chrisjulien7698 6 месяцев назад
Christ bless you, seeing Nightingale get some coverage is awesome man
@zerodiversion4509
@zerodiversion4509 6 месяцев назад
The one thing I'd be most curious about with Nightinggale pairing up with Kariya is how much she is able to cure Kariya to begin with, being a nurse paired with someone who is literally close to death's door
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 6 месяцев назад
Well Rama was worse off then Kariya given he was missing his insides and having the curse on him from Cu Alter. Ones a lot more potent then the other.
@twelfthknight
@twelfthknight 6 месяцев назад
I think Nightingale would've prioritized Kariya's life and welfare over the Grail War, being far more reticent to participate in any fighting when his life isn't in specific jeopardy. Nightingale Madness Enhanced reasoning makes her more benign relative to the vast majority of Berserkers we know of but at the same time she's uniquely pacifistic, which puts her far more at cross-purposes to Kariya's agenda than Lancelot ever was. He'd have to approach the whole war differently, or try to use command seals to make up for it.
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 6 месяцев назад
She uses her gun to punctuate her sentences and specifically goes straight to kill whatever is causing the most harm. Upon summon that would either be the Crest Worms or Zouken directly. And most likely it be Zouken since upon realizing Kariya summoned a fucking nurse, Zouken would 100% try and kill Kariya with the Crest Worms. Nightingale being opposed to this would either use her NP or immediately attack Zouken, breaking his concentration/control of the worms and she would most likely rip his body apart but not outright kill him since she has no way to get all the Crest Worms that make up his body. From there they would most likely just save Sakura from the pit and then the story branches considerably from there since Kariya's first goal was met and he would probably want to kill Tokiomei. All he would need to do is convince Nightingale that there is a fucked up problem they need to end this War before anymore people like Sakura get hurt, she points out he is also one of those people, he says he doesn't care about himself, she smacks him for saying something like that and talks about the will to fight and saving lives requires caring for oneself as well and would probably be the one in charge in their relationship with Kariya having to do some soul searching. Everything from there is a massive toss up.
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 6 месяцев назад
So just reread how her NP works and it forces a safe zone that turns off or weakens weapons, keeps True Name release from happening and stops people from gathering mana/using mana along with the mental fuckery by making people calm down. She could potentially outright fuck Zouken mad easy by taking him unaware. Again she can't outright kill him, probably misses a few of the worms but she definitely makes him a non-issue.
@twelfthknight
@twelfthknight 6 месяцев назад
@@RavenCloak13 I was thinking something similar. I don't see her showing up to that initial battle of Fate/Zero at all, her focus would be entirely on having Kariya not die which she would work unrelentingly to achieve. Something like Gilles threatening Fuyuki would get her to act briefly, and maybe a Master could get her to act offensively by arguing that it's "mitigating suffering" but... she's still just one of the worst options for a Holy Grail War scenario among Servants mostly because of her mentality.
@downix
@downix 6 месяцев назад
@@RavenCloak13 You realize she is a hard block on the Gate of Babylon, right?
@JacksonJinn
@JacksonJinn 5 месяцев назад
@@downixYeah that's the hilarious thing. Nightingale is so *painfully* OP at shutting down NPs and weapons in general, she shuts down Gil as a whole. When he *can't* use *EA,* his usual "win" button... Yeah, the guy just gets smacked around and dies. So in a 1v1 between Kariya and Tokiomi... Yeah, it's not even close. Nurse wins.
@Knightfall138
@Knightfall138 6 месяцев назад
I got a good one here “what if jaguarman was in the fate/stay night war”😅
@josecuestas7246
@josecuestas7246 6 месяцев назад
Also, imagines Jaguarman 🐯 vs Saber Lion 🦁
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
Despite looking ridiculous, Jaguarman is actually a really strong Servant, so normally she would be fine. Thing is, the 5th Fuyuki War was stuffed full of ringers. Even if she replaces Cu, that just means she's stuck under Kotomine, and even if she got out from under his thumb, there's still Gilgamesh, Heracles, and Artoria to deal with. Plus, Shirou, Sakura, Rin, and even Shinji and Kuzuki's reactions. It'd be a total clusterf¥ck, especially if Jaguarman possesses the real Taiga!!
@Ceadra01
@Ceadra01 5 месяцев назад
I now want a pick of Nightingale yetting a hospital bed with Kayneth on it after he gets shot from the origin bullet.
@mythicalskeleton1546
@mythicalskeleton1546 4 месяца назад
I always found it funny how Nightingale throws beds at enemies as an attack
@digitalwarrior5862
@digitalwarrior5862 6 месяцев назад
Tsiah IV, i heard that for the 2010 FATE EXTRA, Florence Nightingale was supposed to be in that game as either a Boss or as a Playable Servant. so my question to you is this, if we get Florence Nightingale in FATE EXTRA RECORD, how will that affect both Story and Gameplay of FATE EXTRA RECORD?
@Type_Blue
@Type_Blue 6 месяцев назад
Idk if he accepts this comment since he does requests on patrion from what I can say in the beginning of the video
@nyeffer9414
@nyeffer9414 6 месяцев назад
Wait if Saber and Nightingale fight at the end, I argue when their NP clashes, Nightingale can still Survive while saber think she won. When the event of the fuyuki fire happened, Nightingale will end up priorities the people and save as much as she could while Kiritsugu also save people. This is crank ship but seeing a servant which is saving people and is about to disappear, Kiritsugu will give avalon to Nightingale for her to last long which led to both of them finding Shirou. So if Nightingale replaces Lancelot, we could get Kiritsugu x Nightingale parenting Shirou in F/SN plus with a servant in Kiritsugu hands he could take back Illya.
@christophercordero9352
@christophercordero9352 5 месяцев назад
crazy nurse x depressed weirdo is actally a good matchup, hell nightingale healing iri already would give her like 20 affection points out of 100
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 6 месяцев назад
So the main problem is more just does Zouken just outright try and kill Kariya for failing and summoning, of all things, A FUCKING NURSE into the Holy Grail War? He 100% would see it as a failure and try and kill him right then and there. Meanwhile Nightgale looks at him for not even 2 seconds and tries to kill the infection right in from of her. Which given how much fasted she is and what would be around for her to use and her own gun she will probably be able to deal critical damage to Zouken even if he survives with as a few of the worms. Then she would be dealing with Kariya whose either in a worse or bettter state do to her being less outright mana hungry or if the Crest Worms start going ape shit inside him since Zouken dipped and would need to reassamble himself. Legit the Sakura problem might be taken care of then and there and Kariya might just dip if Nightingale doesn't want to deal with this shit or if Kariya doesn't want to kill Tokiomi for doing any of this. Then we need to actually understand how much Nightingale's NP would actually work on Kariya (as a heal/purge of infection ability) and other Servants(making them not want to fight) vs the mana cost of using said NP. If the Crest Worms still work then the mana cost in general will be a complete non-issue. If they are going haywire then it becomes a Kariya in general mana pool that needs to be addressed. Fruthermore we don't actually know how EX ranked Mad Enhancment actually effects a Servant in terms of buffing pure raw power. Is that a constant drain or only when they start actuslly trying to do something with their abilities? Do they even get a boost if they technically don't lose sanity do to just having a different way of thinking or being mentally ill? Hell, the womans stats are comparable to Lancelots. One rank down for STR and AGI but her END is actually better with a + modifer to Lancelote base A. Her LUK is also way higher at A+ and given how Artoria's LUK played a factor so to would Nightingales with "the small chance her healing could work" or the like. Honestly Nightingale and Kariya's dynamic would probably be more she was in charge and Kariya having to learn how to talk to her in general after they grab Sakura. Kariya only really making her do something about the Grail War because he would want to take out Tokiomei so we don't get a dock fight in general. They become a wild card for the whole rest of the War. In terms of actual combat it becomes what are we giving her actually? We see her throw hands with Goeita, her feats in the manga and how her nurse summon does have combat capabilities and can actually touch stuff from the OVA special. This along with the fsct her NP has a mental interference effect which makes people calmer so they won't be able to fight her as hard when she goes in to deal with her patients. Do we count is as magical? Mental attack? Reminder, those are actually treated different even though mana is used to do both.
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 6 месяцев назад
Oh right. Her Human Anatomy Understanding skill. She outright understands weak points in all humanoid enemies and how to deal with them and takes less damage from them. It's stated it's instinctual so she probably can just tank more shit then she probably should along with deal with melee fighters better then you would expect. Hell, her grabbing Gils weapons seems reasonable as well to counter them since Lancelot just made them specifically his own with his NP. His own skills and strength let him outright grab them. Gil could recall them but Nightingale could still physically grab them to defend if she did fight Gil. Nevermind how her NP would work with him.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
If we're allowing manga feats, she literally one-shotted a freaking Spriggan in the Turas Realta manga with a punch! Everyone was gaping at her, because those things aren't weak! Gil can probably still stomp her, because he's Gil (his pure ego will let him no-sell the "no will to harm" effect, and the Gate probably has something that can bypass her NP), but everyone else is going to struggle with actually hurting her as her NP is basically a weaker, but far wider-ranged Avalon. Combine that with her pascifism meaning she can be safely ignored until later, the fact that attacking non-agressive healers is incredibly dishonorable (Artoria, Diarmuid, and even Iskander won't want to attack her), and the fact that Gil and Gilles will be priority targets for the others, and Nightingale/Kariya/Sakura can last for quite a while.
@JacksonJinn
@JacksonJinn 5 месяцев назад
​@@OmniGman "His pure ego will let him no-sell the 'no will to harm' effect" That's not how that works. He was swallowed by Angra despite potentially being able to resist the effects of the grail mud because that effect is explicitly trying to overwrite his sense of self, the strongest aspect of Gil's mind. His rationality is *not* just magically immune to all effects. The fact he has concepts of peace and non-violence (I.E. the Feast of Kings, allowing Waver to live) indicates he can be made to heel. He may *think* and *say* it's his idea, that he's deigning to allow the nurse to live or whatever, but he will be affected like anyone else. "Gate probably has something that can bypass" No. It just doesn't. The Gate is Gil opening portals to his treasury, most of which he simply fires weapons out of rather than wielding them manually. That being shut down means the Gate cannot be opened in her radius for any reason. If he willed it, he could bring items out of the Gate outside of her effective space, yes, but they could not then be used as weapons while inside. Gil may be Gil, but Gil is not special. He's just powerful in specialized ways, which happen to be shut down by Nightingale. No, the real threat in the war would be Assassins, who could strike while her guard (and effects) are down.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
@@JacksonJinn Nightingale Pledge's "no will to harm others" is a mental effect. Gil has explicitly face-tanked a mental attack orders of magnitudes greater (literally "All the World's Evils"), and Gil treated it like it was a bad joke. Arguing that her NP's effect is different enough in the targeting that Gil can't no-sell it is gonna require more proof that just you saying so. Something like a specific passage that states the mental effect can't be no-sold through willpower, or that its as subversive as you seem to think it is. You seem to think it even makes you think the non-hostility is normal or that it forces you to rationalize it. It doesn't. It negates 'toxicity and hostility', but you can be non-hostile and non-toxic (what even constitutes 'toxic') and still be convinced that someone is an obstacle to your plans that needs to be worked around. Gilgamesh has exactly the kind of mentality required for such a workaround, if its even necessary. And Nightingale Pledge doesn't negate NPs. It prevents "True Name Releases", meaning you can't use an NPs full power. But Gil doesn't need to invoke the Gates full name to open portals and pull things out. And the Gates whole gimmick is that it has a counter for everything if Gil can be arsed to put in the effort of looking for said counter. Said counter doesn't have to be an attack either. It could literally just be a potion that negates all mental interference. And even if all that fails, once she leaves, the NP wears off and a viciously pissed off Gilgamesh is going to hunt her down and nuke her from a distance or hit her with something that explicitly does negate NPs and then torture her to death. Its literally not worth it. Nightingale can't beat Gilgamesh. He's the gold standard other Servants are judged by for a reason.
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 5 месяцев назад
​@@OmniGman That's the funny thing. His MR is actually trash. And it's magic base, not will based check he would have to do. It's the difference between how Mata Hari's NP works along with her skills. The actual thing that stops her from doing that is we never actually see her use her NP "offensively" like that. She's only ever really shown to use it to heal people and recover fatigue. She often just relies on throwing hands to fight and nothing else.
@jacethekombatlordflamehaza6308
@jacethekombatlordflamehaza6308 6 месяцев назад
Can we get a Fate Lore or Don’t sleep on Nightingale? Because I feel like a lot of people don’t know how strong she actually is ,and how to adequately base her strength to fate zero servants.
@ProtectorKelvin
@ProtectorKelvin 6 месяцев назад
Kariya is about to get the Nightingale treatment. Same for Zoukens worms
@pedrojosebellobelen3824
@pedrojosebellobelen3824 5 месяцев назад
As long as Sakura can be saved from Zouken by Nightingale at the very end I’m fine with the results XP
@carltonlee17
@carltonlee17 5 месяцев назад
The funniest thing is that Nightingale is known for eradicating pests in the trenches during a war to improve hygiene. Now if we take a look at where she is summoned-
@Skerkrov
@Skerkrov 5 месяцев назад
8:30 I just love this logic in fate, She can throw that cargo crate at me is she an archer? also gil 0_o...
@entropy404
@entropy404 5 месяцев назад
She actually has pretty good combat stats compared to lancelot, mainly lacking one rank in strength and and agility, her skills are pretty good against most servants as well. Her NP is actually really interesting in this situation: 『Nightingale Pledge』 Rank: C NP Type: Anti-Army Range: 0-40 Maximum Targets: 100 I Will Abstain From All Poisons and Evils. A combination of her iron will, which faced death on the battlefield, as well as the modern concept of the nurse as an "angel in white", elevated to the status of a Noble Phantasm. *Nullify all toxicity and hostility within the effective range. An absolute safe zone.* It also has a healing effect.
@Triforce_Gardian
@Triforce_Gardian 6 месяцев назад
This was a really good idea and video. Would love to see how this train of thought would carry into stay night
@somestupidname2
@somestupidname2 5 месяцев назад
I am kind of curious about one thing. Nightingale's noble phantasm. I am wondering if it might be able to save Kariya. It does seem to remove poisons and negative status effects from those around her. I think his condition with the crestworms might qualify.
@Spnozilla
@Spnozilla 6 месяцев назад
When I read the title of the video I thought nothing would change much. Boy was I wrong!
@josecuestas7246
@josecuestas7246 6 месяцев назад
Also, what if Morgan replaced Gilles as Caster in Fate/Zero?
@mongooseunleashed
@mongooseunleashed 6 месяцев назад
Her master would've instantly died.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
​@@mongooseunleashed Uryuu immediately gets turned into her mind-controlled puppet. Remember, he wouldn't get Lostbelt Morgan. He'd get Pan-Human History Morgan, aka Beryl's original Servant! She's far eviler than her Lostbelt self!
@demod2080
@demod2080 6 месяцев назад
Given that Nightingale would immediately identify Kariya's physical ailments, she's likely to try and use whatever means she can to help him get around without causing so much pain, if not dampen the worst effects of the Crest worms inside of his body. I could see him acting dejected at some point and Nightingale uses her Voice Skill to spur on his will to live and remind him there are still things worth fighting for. She honestly might not be able to save his life, but she'll damn well try her hardest to the very end.
@carlosgarza400
@carlosgarza400 6 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure that Nightingale would try to throw hands with Zouken since she'd precieve him as the parasite and know Iskandar he might actually try to flirt with Nightingale because of her strength
@uselesshero.official
@uselesshero.official 6 месяцев назад
Nightingale's biggest W in grand order is: 1. Carrying a young Rama with a heart wound over her shoulder and stop-gaping as Hanuman himself. 😂 2. Punching Goetia in the face 3. Being a master support in Shimousa pseudo singularity by providing mental buff remove resist. ( Santa version) Personally it helped me soooo much.
@imchrisperez
@imchrisperez 6 месяцев назад
she also told Cu alter to off himself, quite the chad move if you ask me
@uselesshero.official
@uselesshero.official 6 месяцев назад
@@imchrisperez oh yeah almost forgot about that one!
@assassinkapkan5265
@assassinkapkan5265 6 месяцев назад
You know watch this video actually made me ask what if... hear me out... what if Rin got what she wanted and got a Saber that being Rama and Shirou got Archer the being Atalanta.
@carlossique9604
@carlossique9604 4 месяца назад
Another thing that needs to be pointed out is that Maiya would also be alive since Berserker wouldn't have killed her, Unless Gil replaces that scene to kidnap Irisviel
@cfogarty07
@cfogarty07 6 месяцев назад
Nightingale would probably just kill zoken and reunite Sakura and rin since in her mind they are the cure
@mynameisnotimportant286
@mynameisnotimportant286 6 месяцев назад
Genuinely curious, is it possible for someone to just jump into the gates of Babylon portal assuming it’s not being loaded with a noble phantasm and you could just access the treasury full of NP’s?
@johnmorrison519
@johnmorrison519 6 месяцев назад
Now were talking.
@zerodiversion4509
@zerodiversion4509 6 месяцев назад
That depends if on the other side, there isn't some ancient booby trap waiting to punish mongrels who think they can outsmart the king
@mythicalskeleton1546
@mythicalskeleton1546 4 месяца назад
If we're being honest, she would probably end up killing every single master and servant who doesn't meet her standards and would likely accidentally kill her master trying to heal him
@ryusof6
@ryusof6 5 месяцев назад
Nightingale will crush and disinfect worm inside Kariya inner circuit or cut off each skin by skin.
@zold9896
@zold9896 6 месяцев назад
How much money would it take for you to do research on a figure and make a fan servant 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
@SomeCoolGuyCh
@SomeCoolGuyCh 6 месяцев назад
Nightingale my wife 🙏😩
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 6 месяцев назад
I wonder more: What would have happen, if Matou didnt targeted a berserk in the first place? Toria and Lancelot are both more suited for Saber class. It looked like, that all people summoned the servant around the same time. Would he ended up with berserk, no matter what? Or who could had berserk and saber otherwise? If he had be faster and had summoned lancelot with the normal ritual, would he probally be saber. Artoria to the other hand should than have failed. Because her class was allready taking. Or, she would have been a alter version. Like lancer.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
IIRC, Kariya had a catalyst for Lancelot, so, yes, he still would have gotten Lancelot, just in another Class (IIRC, he also qualifies for Rider and maybe Lancer). Problem is, Artoria is guaranteed the Saber slot if you summon her with Avalon. Diarmuid can be Saber or Lancer, and I don't know if Iskander qualifies for anything other than Rider. Both were summoned with catalysts, too.
@paolohonrade9164
@paolohonrade9164 5 месяцев назад
I have question for the numerous Phantasms inside of Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon. We've been told that most if not all of the items in his treasury are all prototypes or template used to later all the items we use today and that they were also the base model for every Noble Phantasms used by other heroes. And all of this was stemmed from his travels and collecting things when he was still alive, so his these treasures came from 4000 years ago and were claimed to be better than those who came after them. He has the prototype model for Gae Bolg, Caladbolg and of course Merodach the father of all sword's of selection like Gram and Caliburn. But if you've played the VN or looked at any Fate site that talks about GoB, then you know that Gilgamesh owns Gram itself. The demonic sword in Norse myth. And when you look at the weapon menu, the Gram in his Gate has the same history used as the one used by Sigurd and his father, Sigmund. Now I don't know if its cannon in fate, but there's actually a story on how Gram was forged by a smith called Weyland, and it was placed in the trunk of the tree by Odin where Sigmund would pull out eventually. But if it is, then how did it come to Gilgamesh's possession? Another one is Durandal; a weapon that was first a sword owned by Hector, that was re-forged his spear, Durandina his Noble Phantasm in his lancer form, then was reforged into a sword again and as a conceptual weapon that holds three miracles. How did Gilgamesh obtain this sword? And again in the VN, the image of Durandal in Gilgamesh's treasury is 1-to-1 to the one Roland uses, the only difference is the color of the gem on the bottom of the handle, and it also has the same history as the actuall weapon used by Roland. And since Gilgamesh claims everything in his Gate was the real deal, which means that it IS the actual weapon, but it is also said that items in his Gate were obtained only during his time, so how is it possible to be the same sword? And that's not all; in Fate Zero anime you can actually see that he owns the Harpe, a weapon used by Perseus and owned by the greek god Hermes. And in FGO, if you pause kid Gil's Noble phantasm's animation before he starts shooting you can see: Leonidas's spear, Lu Bu's God Force, Benkei's Glaive and Trident, Hercule's Axe (3rd Ascension Ver), and what seems to be Ascalon (based by the shape of the blade). How is it that he owns these weapons that come later after his death?
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
The Gate is the embodiment of Gil's legend of having all the treasures on Earth (including weapons). As such it can actually retroactively add things to the vault or even create a treasure that acts as a 'prototype' of an NP, if someone actually creates something new that didn't originate in his era (he has a tool that can do something similar to Tsubame Gaeshi, even though it was a sword technique invented millenia after he died)! Yeah, it's ridiculous BS. The problem is FSN was created back before Nasu ever knew it would become such a huge success that he would have multiple sequels/spin-offs, so a lot of stuff in it had to be either retconned or Nasu had to make later excuses to justify it (a lot of the Servants we have now would never have qualified under the more strenuous standards Nasu had for Heroic Spirits back then). It doesn't help that Nasu had the stupid idea of making it so that everything mankind would ever create was already done back in Babylon/Uruk, so Gil could always have the original/prototype! That screwed him over so bad, but he is such a Gil-simp that he keeps making flimsy justifications after the fact!
@ultimatesonic47
@ultimatesonic47 6 месяцев назад
i think the chances of teaming up with someone are not that far fetched since kariyas goal is not the grail, if nightingale could reach to iskandar or even saber to go save sakura they definetly would do so, nightingale teaming with either of them would have a good chance of defeating gil or atleast hold out until kiritsugu kills kirei
@suru7064
@suru7064 6 месяцев назад
iskandar would save sakura but you'll have to negotiate with him to get her.
@ultimatesonic47
@ultimatesonic47 6 месяцев назад
@@suru7064 i also think nightingale would have helped against guiles maybe then she would have gotten a chance to speak with either of them to get help for her master
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
The problem is no one would realize Kariya doesn't want the Grail (and no one would believe him if he explains it), Kariya doesn't trust magi in general, and Kariya won't help his case with his murder-boner for Tokiomi. If Nightingale kills Zouken, then Kariya's best bet is to just take Sakura back home and explain things to Aoi. If Tokiomi is still willing to give Sakura to a different family after that, there is nothing Kariya can do, because Nightingale can't beat Gilgamesh.
@otakunemesis34
@otakunemesis34 5 месяцев назад
Attempt 112 of asking you to do a video on white wolf's world of darkness
@johnmorrison519
@johnmorrison519 6 месяцев назад
Yo this might be far fetch but in fsn is it possible for sakura to have summon brynhildr as a lancer instead of medusa(lets day the rider class was already taken). I have somewhat of a feeling that bryn and sakura are a like.
@nervmeister
@nervmeister 6 месяцев назад
Hoo boy. The odds of Sakura's crush on Shirou turning murder-ey beyond just the HF route would be uncomfortably non-zero now, thanks to Bryn.
@johnmorrison519
@johnmorrison519 6 месяцев назад
​@@nervmeisterhehehe if bryn sees shirou high jump we bout to know what would happen fuhahahaha.
@Skalvern
@Skalvern 5 месяцев назад
Got an interesting Fate/Zero related question for you, How would the ending played out if the grail wasn't corrupted by Angra Mainyu? What would you speculate Kiritsugu's wish would of done if it was possible?
@Notsouji
@Notsouji 6 месяцев назад
It’s cool to see how Nightingale would change many aspects of Zero, but I always wanted to know something, What would happen if Okita Alter was summoned in place of Saber?
@demonking8766
@demonking8766 5 месяцев назад
Do you think you can make a continuation of this story going into the three stay night timelines.
@princecharming8125
@princecharming8125 6 месяцев назад
What if Joker from Gotham City was Rin Tohsakas servent in the 5 the holy grail war? Joker got super powers nobel phantasms suitable for Joker
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 6 месяцев назад
Rin would be screwed but I think a more interesting scenario would be if Ryuunosuke summoned Joker. This would make fate zero way worse than it already was. Also, maybe Joker's np could be a carnival but people would die brutal deaths.
@angelojustin23333
@angelojustin23333 6 месяцев назад
If kariya did summon nightingale he might have been locked in a room with her and until she removed that parasite or kill him just to cure him of it! Honestly he might have to use 1 command spell just so she stop trying to cure him!
@TheStuffEnjoyer
@TheStuffEnjoyer 6 месяцев назад
I'll do you one better, Solomon/Pretender Goetia gets summoned in Fate Zero. All thanks to god sending Solomon back from heaven by decreasing that "he still has unfinished business". Kinda like Bedivere be sent back from Avalon or Proto Arthur not being allowed into Avalon until he slays Beast 666.
@ChuckleFuks
@ChuckleFuks 6 месяцев назад
Not related to the video topic, has there been any update on the strange fake tv series. Starting to think they shelved it and just gonna let it collect dust
@stevenchoza6391
@stevenchoza6391 6 месяцев назад
Here’s a fun one. What if Kayneth had Lu Bu from Dynasty Warriors 8XL Hypothetical Route had been summoned instead of Diarmiud.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
Servant Lu Bu is always guaranteed to betray his Master because of his legend unless he is summoned as a Berserker, and even his Berserker self can be treacherous unless you remind him of his wife (as Rani did) or you earn his respect (as Hakuno did).
@nameless-1096
@nameless-1096 6 месяцев назад
another cool what if might be what if mash had emiya instead of galahad inside her
@ajharris2690
@ajharris2690 6 месяцев назад
it might but but the Iong & short of it is they die emiya with aII the power he has , he's unabIe to repIicate one of the strongest defences in the verse they just dying one way or another
@eddy9615
@eddy9615 6 месяцев назад
Ok
@rocketcat086
@rocketcat086 6 месяцев назад
I don't remember what her strength stat is but seeing nightingale casually chucking cars would go hard af.
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 5 месяцев назад
B+. Her Angels Outcry and Human Anatomy Understanding also boost her combat abilities, specifically humanoid enemies in her Anatomy skills point. Not to mention her own healing is going to keep her pretty well off along with the defensive boost her Anatomy skill also gives.
@johnnichols6325
@johnnichols6325 6 месяцев назад
Wouldnt kariya just fucking win. Like his magic was nutty just like grandpa. It was killing him. So if he had her he would probly master the big magic.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
Removing the worms would make him weaker. He'd stop being drained, but the worms are what allow him to perform any magecraft at all. He only had roughly a year of training in the Matou family magecraft. And even if he became better than Zouken, he'd still be no match for Gilgamesh.
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 5 месяцев назад
​@@OmniGman Doesn't need to be. He just has to jump his ass when Gil fucks off cause he hated how much of a mage Tokiomi acts like.
@MADAO1313
@MADAO1313 6 месяцев назад
What if Achilles replace Medusa in Fate? And whot hapen in difrent routs?
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
Everything changes. Medusa could function under Shinji because she has Independent Action Rank B as a Personal Skill, so him being unable to provide mana didn't matter as much. Achilles doesn't have such a skill and is very mana expensive as is. Not only could he not function under Shinji, thus forcing Sakura to remain the Master, but Achilles is one of the most famous heroes of all time. There is no way is Zouken going to squander such an incredible opportunity to gain the Grail on humoring Shinji's delusions of adequacy!! And forget the other routes! We're locked into Heaven's Feel now! Zouken was willing to go for all the marbles in HF just because Shinji was so pathetic he felt it embarrassed the Matou name. With a big name hero like Achilles, Sakura and the Shadow, and the option to steal Assassin from Medea? He'll definitely jump at the chance! Their only threats are Gilgamesh and Heracles, and neither is immune from getting nommed by the Shadow!
@robiihsan4788
@robiihsan4788 6 месяцев назад
What happened if kariya summon Raikou instead
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
Unless Zouken has his heart/soul worm inside Sakura already, he is dead. Raikou is more than powerful enough to incinerate most of his worms in one shot (and that's without the fame/home field bonus she'd get for being summoned in Japan), and she specifically has experience with an enemy that produces many smaller enemies (the original tsuchigumo legend), so very few of his worms will survive. The real issue is can Zouken use the worms he has inside Kariya and Sakura to survive. In FSN he specifically needed a special worm he had inside Sakura's heart to possess her. That worm contained his actual soul, and killing it kills him. If he hasn't put it inside Kariya or Sakura he is literally fried! Raikou is also stupidly powerful, incredibly skilled, and amazingly versatile. She's easily at, or likely above, Artoria's level in her home country. The only real threat to her is Gilgamesh. Even if she could stall him, Kariya can't beat Tokiomi.
@user-fg2jy2fz5l
@user-fg2jy2fz5l 6 месяцев назад
Can her np help the situation
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 6 месяцев назад
We have to more ask how would her NP work. The spectral nurse she summons can physically interact with things along with the calming effect produced by her NP along n with the healing. Not to mention it actually weakens weapons or can outright turn them off in the case of bombs and the like. Then you have to ask how much mana does it actually take and specifically herself since we don't really know how EX ranked Mad Enhancement I treated. Spartacus was our only know case and his Master was locked up with Amakusa taking control/command so we don't actually see the effects of a Servant with EX ranked Mad Enhancement existing. Do they get stat boost if they didn't actually have sanity taken?
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 6 месяцев назад
So I reread her NP description from the material books and she can outright keep Servants NP's from being True Name released and mana from being absorbed/used. She would be dumb broken in a fight.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
​@@RavenCloak13 Blocking the True Name Release only means you can't use the NPs full power. While some NPs do require a True Name Release to use at all (Gae Bolg's Causality Heart Stab and the Anti-Army thrown version), others can be used at less than full power or have a passive effect that requires no True Name Release (like Diarmuid's spears). Nightingale Pledge isn't as OP as it sounds.
@RavenCloak13
@RavenCloak13 5 месяцев назад
​@@OmniGman It lowers your want to fight, is magic based on will based like Mata Hari's skill/NP effect that bypasses magic defense along with lowers the ability for magical energy to even gather to use anything that relies on mana. Along with filling blades and he would be testing wills with a Beserker.
@OmniGman
@OmniGman 5 месяцев назад
@@RavenCloak13 Said Berserker would be testing wills against someone whose ego curbstomped the embodiment of All Humanity's Evils. Gil is not lacking in terms of willpower. More to the point, where does it state that's how Pledge works? It's profile says nothing about no-selling Magic Resistance or pitting your will directly against Nightingale's.
@jamesknott5255
@jamesknott5255 6 месяцев назад
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