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Paul tests whether flight control wad ammo will increase your hit probability.
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@yqwgjsg
@yqwgjsg 5 лет назад
I keep firing at the deer until the deer stops firing back
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 лет назад
OK, that was a good one.
@loganhockenberry5026
@loganhockenberry5026 5 лет назад
I want to hunt those kinda deer
@cuttheknot4781
@cuttheknot4781 5 лет назад
Hey buddy, deer do NOT have guns. I think you were exaggerating for the dramatic.
@christopherdean9684
@christopherdean9684 5 лет назад
Shooting steel up close with a .308 is like going to a range were the targets fight back
@jackalmereel
@jackalmereel 5 лет назад
I think CutTheKnot might be a deer.
@Ifoughtpiranhas
@Ifoughtpiranhas 5 лет назад
Does a new Paul Harrell video make your Friday complete? You be the judge.
@Pfletch83
@Pfletch83 5 лет назад
Yes ...yes in fact it does.
@BigBosley
@BigBosley 5 лет назад
Indeed it does.
@willblucat3335
@willblucat3335 5 лет назад
I'd does.
@MultiDryder
@MultiDryder 5 лет назад
Its encouraging
@Research_Lavon_Affair
@Research_Lavon_Affair 5 лет назад
Does a meat target test with a .327 mag make Paul's channel complete? You be the judge.
@chunkystyle
@chunkystyle 5 лет назад
New Paul Harrell video, and its going to be above freezing in Chicago tomorrow. Coincidence? You be the judge.
@jonross377
@jonross377 5 лет назад
Paul brings the HEAT.
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 5 лет назад
Thank god. It's been a brutal week.
@709badwolf
@709badwolf 5 лет назад
not just in chicago
@dominikobora5385
@dominikobora5385 5 лет назад
those "pasties" or stickers really help to show the results , keep on using em
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 5 лет назад
I like that too.
@dubltap7216
@dubltap7216 5 лет назад
Aren't those pasties supposed to have tassels on them. 😁
@bigselza2795
@bigselza2795 5 лет назад
I don't know how this guy hasn't got at least a million subscribers. His content is top class. He needs his own show on the Discovery channel or something.
@000Mazno000
@000Mazno000 5 лет назад
Niche subject, low production value, and dry delivery. I love it myself, I watch everything he puts out, but it's not mass appeal content, and it doesn't need to be.
@pwprochazka
@pwprochazka 5 лет назад
@@000Mazno000 Low production value? but... but.. meat target! that's HIGH quality.
@workingmansdead44-ug8hl
@workingmansdead44-ug8hl 5 лет назад
NO TV
@dshepard3161
@dshepard3161 5 лет назад
God no Discovery would ruin everything
@2AEnthusiast
@2AEnthusiast 5 лет назад
@@pwprochazka Don't forget the high-tech fleece bullet stop!
@grantorino2009
@grantorino2009 5 лет назад
Paul Harrell just chewed a viewer's ass within the first two minutes! This is already so exciting!
@johnwesley1660
@johnwesley1660 5 лет назад
Flight control is intended to be shot through an open bore which allows the "flight control wad" to hold the buckshot together longer in flight which yields the tighter patterns. When you use the FCW in a tighter bore it restricts/grips the wad and strips it away from the buckshot causing the buckshot to spread quicker which obviously defeats the purpose.
@LemonySnicket-EUC
@LemonySnicket-EUC 4 года назад
I concur, and other RU-vid videos back this up.
@caniaccharlie
@caniaccharlie 4 года назад
What choke is he using in this video? I know he mentions using a cylinder bore in an older video, but doesn't specify in this video. I am assuming it's the cylinder bore?
@uberNerdStatus
@uberNerdStatus 3 года назад
Half way through he mentions he is using full choke. I also have seen video confirming the plastic cup is supposed to hold the pellets together out to about ten yards, then it has fins that come out / shed the wad. I would love to see this re-done with a smooth bore / modified comparison.
@noahway13
@noahway13 3 года назад
@@uberNerdStatus 1:12 He says 18 inch cylinder bore. He said a full choke would help the pattern stay tighter. Most people hunt with longer barrel, not just 18 inch
@canecutter77
@canecutter77 2 года назад
@@noahway13 He shot some with his Remington semiautomatic model 11 which he said had a full choke.
@foxsquirrel3038
@foxsquirrel3038 5 лет назад
Paul Harrell didn’t miss speak, the camera miss recorded...
@steveperks7054
@steveperks7054 5 лет назад
Paul Harrell didn't misspeak, we all misheard.
@itsterrific
@itsterrific 5 лет назад
Paul Harrell didn’t misspeak. Chuck Norris just misstuttered in fear.
@thatguy22441
@thatguy22441 5 лет назад
Paul Harrell is never late. If he is late, time better slow the hell down.
@Leonardokite
@Leonardokite 5 лет назад
Finally you answer that all important question: what's new and improved about the "hi-tech fleece bullet stop" ROFL So as always.....great video Paul!
@leprekhantar347
@leprekhantar347 5 лет назад
I always wondered about that too.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 лет назад
I always thought it was a new leather jacket each time and this new and improved.
@gswovoka6286
@gswovoka6286 5 лет назад
Some video nerdy viewer should make a commercial. ..."Now with bullet stop controlling bungee cord!" "The New and Improved Fleece Bullet Stop!" - Sold wherever meat is purveyed. I bet Paul would ok some clips being used... Good laugh for the community.
@Leonardokite
@Leonardokite 5 лет назад
@@gswovoka6286 You indeed have quite the imagination. :-)
@JonasUllenius
@JonasUllenius 5 лет назад
Great that it is new and improved ass all ways! Paul and the bullet stop is what you call professional :)
@crankysports
@crankysports 5 лет назад
One comment from Paul Harrell is worth 20,000 from a normal RU-vidr
@prjndigo
@prjndigo 5 лет назад
maybe 17,000 and frankly he's still got some inconsistencies.
@philips.5563
@philips.5563 5 лет назад
But is it enough to make a difference?
@RH571987
@RH571987 5 лет назад
don't you dare putting the words normal and youtuber right next to each other.
@crankysports
@crankysports 5 лет назад
RH571987 🙄
@crankysports
@crankysports 5 лет назад
Song in Silence you be the judge
@richardhoepfner1633
@richardhoepfner1633 5 лет назад
My take-away: Use Slugs for deer hunting.
@hammerslammer3006
@hammerslammer3006 5 лет назад
Use rifles for deer hunting... I live in a communist slug zone,not even allowed buckshot!!! I use a muzzle loader and a handgun at home and a rifle everywhere else.
@generalredneck6998
@generalredneck6998 5 лет назад
hammer slammer damn sounds like you’re probably in the commie New England area or commifornia
@SootHead
@SootHead 5 лет назад
I've had such good results with my rifled slug gun that even after they opened things to straight-wall rifle cartridges a few years back her in Ohio, I didn't switch because I had the process dialed in. I'm no Paul Harrell but with a Mossberg 500 with a 24-inch slug barrel and scope, I'm hitting them in the vitals out to 180 yards (generally 150-180 the last few years) using Hornady SST 12 gauge 2-3/4. They drop like a rock. One step at most. This year for the first time I had to do a coup de gras, but he was yelling in deer, "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!" Geezerhood is upon me now and I'd prefer less recoil but money is an issue too so I have so far procrastinated on a rifle.
@loganhockenberry5026
@loganhockenberry5026 5 лет назад
slammed a 12 gauge slug either a sabot or a rifled slug is devastating to a deer way better than buckshot
@silentspace7201
@silentspace7201 5 лет назад
Not if you want to shoot running deer close up. Shotguns are perfect for moving targets, and its super fun. Birds, small game, medium game...
@mikearnold1857
@mikearnold1857 5 лет назад
RU-vid has to quit filtering out his content and let this man get subbed, he should have at least 1M subs by now ....
@secondamendment8773
@secondamendment8773 5 лет назад
When a new video comes out I look forward to reading the comments almost as much as watching the video.
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 5 лет назад
I'm with you on that one.
@johnd4348
@johnd4348 5 лет назад
Me to, not one ugly comment here No haters here, only respectful common sense comments. Gun community is the best.
@anthonycather8035
@anthonycather8035 5 лет назад
Me too I love it when people get so angry like you just banged their wife or something it's usually retired Marines with tiny torpedoes jk but it's funny and informative I like to hear how other people choose ammo or the calibers they use and why always learn something mostly from Paul but comments as well, Honestly I started to give you a thumbs up just for your user name hadn't even read it yet but I agree you get some good content funny or informative heck about 5hrs ago out of nowhere a guy came out of the closet you just never know what you will read . Great name buddy 🇱🇷
@Musicguy1161
@Musicguy1161 4 года назад
Paul: "Am I off or is the ammo off?" Me: Head explodes from considering the impossibility of Paul being off.
@robpetry84
@robpetry84 5 лет назад
I needed my Paul Harrell fix for the weekend. THANKS!!
@WHOTEEWHO
@WHOTEEWHO 5 лет назад
Always love your vids
@jjak1990
@jjak1990 5 лет назад
Hey who tee!
@Backin_Theday
@Backin_Theday 5 лет назад
Paul, I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. I'm sorry that some RU-vid squirrel decided to hide his stash of nuts in your comments section. "C'mon buddy..."
@anthonycather8035
@anthonycather8035 5 лет назад
Clever ! I like it lol
@sonnyg960
@sonnyg960 3 года назад
I wanna know who this RU-vid squirrel is!
@j.p.9522
@j.p.9522 5 лет назад
I can't control my wad's flight when a Paul Harrell notification pops up.
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic 5 лет назад
This is an image that will forever haunt me. Thanks for that.
@JoshBenware
@JoshBenware 5 лет назад
Eww...
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau 5 лет назад
Wait a sec... how did I end up in a Garandthumb comments section?
@MongooseTacticool
@MongooseTacticool 5 лет назад
@@f5tornadeau yeah wrong comment section! :)
@anchorbait6662
@anchorbait6662 5 лет назад
Cum on dude, that's gross.
@robertgantry2118
@robertgantry2118 5 лет назад
Very good, sir. I keep my shotgun loaded for home defense with Hornady Critical Defense 2 3/4" #00 buckshot with 8 pellets. I found a deal on 250 rounds of this stuff at about 6 bucks for a box of 10 rounds, and after looking at muzzle velocities of other shotgun ammo I decided to make the purchase. I'm pretty enthused by the ammo I bought although I haven't done any actual research or testing on it, except that the pattern just about covers a silhouette at 25 yards from my Mossberg 500. The ammo's advertised muzzle velocity is 1600 fps, compared to 1300 fps of most other ammo, but I take you at your word that 1600 fps is probably an optimistic figure. Anyway, just for the sake of curiosity, I wonder if you would consider doing some testing on it. It's expensive, even at 60 cents a round, but I wouldn't mind sending you a few boxes for testing.
@BrockNessMonster1991
@BrockNessMonster1991 Год назад
Dang that’s a good deal, 4 years later I just paid $1.80 a round for that stuff at academy lol
@northof50now
@northof50now 5 лет назад
Nothing worse than people pimping their channel on someone else's - or giving commentary on their own videos in the comment section of others'.
@ImOldGregg
@ImOldGregg 5 лет назад
I got these cheseburgers mannnn
@samuelw4492
@samuelw4492 4 года назад
Have you heard of reaction channels lol
@chrisrawr6177
@chrisrawr6177 3 года назад
@@samuelw4492 Does youtube "content" get any lower then reaction channels? Then again scratch that i don't want to know.
@chriswerb7482
@chriswerb7482 5 лет назад
I know this has been covered in previous videos, but that target is considerably smaller than a white-tail deer. I accept that adds a safety margin for the results when applied to the real thing though.
@NickFrom1228
@NickFrom1228 5 лет назад
Posting a link 20 times. I disagree. I've posted links to Pauls videos at least that many times...
@sqwk2559
@sqwk2559 5 лет назад
Nick Knight - I prefer to reinvent the internet 20 times out of respect to Paul H.
@bluefalconssuck5881
@bluefalconssuck5881 5 лет назад
Last time I was this early, the FBI carried .38's
@YurrNext
@YurrNext 5 лет назад
The wife probably disagrees. 😂
@secondamendment8773
@secondamendment8773 5 лет назад
Yurr Next 🤣🤣🤣
@YurrNext
@YurrNext 5 лет назад
@@secondamendment8773 I hope those are laughing emogis and not middle fingers. Lol Unfortunately android phones don't see iphone emogis.
@secondamendment8773
@secondamendment8773 5 лет назад
Yurr Next Yes, laughing emojis.
@j.v.7451
@j.v.7451 5 лет назад
@@YurrNext I'm on a Samsung note 9 and i see his emojis just fine.
@kftc1980
@kftc1980 5 лет назад
I like to think of Paul as a cross between Chuck Norris, John Cleese, Paul Newman, Michael Shermer, and Clark Howard.
@sqwk2559
@sqwk2559 5 лет назад
Kevin R - in other words he’s just Paul Harrell.
@jamescooper2618
@jamescooper2618 5 лет назад
who r the last 2?
@kftc1980
@kftc1980 5 лет назад
James Cooper Shermer is known for his skepticism and debunking, Howard is a guy whose M.O. is helping people save money and avoid crap and scams.
@itsapittie
@itsapittie 5 лет назад
Don't forget William Shatner.
@noohairdontcare
@noohairdontcare 5 лет назад
The comments section on Paul’s videos are unlike anything else on RU-vid. Best behaved audience on the Internet.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 лет назад
NoSox RubyRox go suck a can of turnips. Naw, I agree that for the most part the douche factor isn’t in abundance possibly because Paul removes those full of vitriol and/or calls out idiot commentators from his previous videos.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 лет назад
And yet we flip people off in their 2 ton killing machines every other day, (cars and trucks obviously).
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 5 лет назад
Best behaved, but have you read all the wad jokes today? 😂
@BilgePump
@BilgePump 5 лет назад
Rick C; Just good humour which i’d make sure of myself when talking to Paul.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 5 лет назад
great info as always
@jpoeng
@jpoeng 5 лет назад
Data shows the FCW groups open up as MV increases. This makes sense as aero drag rises quickly with increased MV, which pulls the wad off the shot column sooner. For example, see 3" FCW test results. These add 3 pellets and 100+ FPS, and the groups aren't as good. This is why we won't see magnum velocity FCW loads. (And for anyone who isn't aware, the FCW works best in cyl. and IC barrels- tighter chokes can strip the wad and yield poor results.) Also, data shows that ambient temperature affects the FCW enough to reduce effective range 5-10 yards on cold days. This makes sense, again, in terms of aero drag: cold air is more dense, and it seems to be enough to make a measurable difference on FCW groups, unlike traditional loads. Ultimately, the FCW is interesting and useful technology, but like most technology, it's got some "foibles." Great videos Paul! 😁
@mycrappyplaylists
@mycrappyplaylists 5 лет назад
"I certainly never get tired of introducing it."
@wls64
@wls64 4 года назад
lol... so much
@ditchdigger93
@ditchdigger93 4 года назад
Love your videos, respect your results. One thing to try though, you mentioned you were shooting a full choke. Flight control is not consistent in full chokes. It's made for Tactical shotguns, Cylinder bore shotguns. My results in a Mossberg 930 tactical is a lot tighter patterns than you got there. Just an FYI.
@ditchdigger93
@ditchdigger93 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MsIscwdb3sk.html Watch this video, learn a lot about using the correct choke for the load.
@bigal2696
@bigal2696 5 лет назад
"Come on buddy" ... that should shame the paint off the wall.
@danielesquer5738
@danielesquer5738 5 лет назад
I love federal flight control! Best buckshot load ever.
@anthonycather8035
@anthonycather8035 5 лет назад
I believe their Zombie zmax is the same load just looks cool . But Hornady Tap is about equal to me for buckshot for home defense I use Winxhester PDX-1 great round best of both worlds the slug hits where you aim and under 10yds the copper plated oo bbs 3 of them hit other vitals more likely to incapacitate immediately but hunting 00 for for and u can go wrong for hd either good choice sir .
@stephenlamphier1141
@stephenlamphier1141 3 года назад
My experience with Flight Control has not been stellar... even with a cylinder bore choke. I have good consistent hits at 40yds with Fed Prem 00 and Rem 000... all 2.75in ammo out of an older Rem 1100 12ga with a modified choke. It's reliable every time.
@mikerobbins6078
@mikerobbins6078 5 лет назад
"Pasties" have a whole 'nother meaning to me.
@bobburnitt5389
@bobburnitt5389 4 года назад
Good Video!! Well, I am not a gun expert, I don't "hunt" either. But I live on what is left of our "family farm" and the Big City has sprawled out and just about RUINED everything. Since that happened it has turned in to a high crime area. I have been burglarized a number of times and my employee I used to have a family members have been the victims of violence. So, my guns are for "home defense" etc. I don't have the ability to do "scientice tests" but I do "practice" fairly often and do enjoy simple target shoting. I bought a Case of the Federal Law enforcement 12 gauge ammo with the Flite Control wadding because it was on sale from an on-line dealer and the price was good. I normally buy Remington or Winchester as a rule. With a Shotgun I rarely shoot over 65 FEET not Yards, but FEET, and with the "Flite Control" wadding I get a pattern with a diameter of about 2 inches and the wadding is often stuck in the HOLE the pellets make or the wadding is lying at the FEET of the target after hitting it and falling on the ground. But I repeat, this is at about 65, maybe 70 feet or LESS, not more. I LIKE Remington and Winchester Buckshot, from shooting targets, those two appear to really do the job at close combat distance 70 feet or less. I notice the "Brass" on Remington (it is attracted to a Magnet so it is ferrous metal and NOT brass, but the "cup" for the power is twice as tall at the Federal Cup. The Federal "brass cup" is NOT magnetic. That trivia seems to NOT MATTER at all. The Federal Law Enforcement, Flite control Wadding 12 gauge has plenty of GAS to cycle my Remington 1100 autoloader. But from a "feel" of shooting it it seems the Federal has slightly less "power" or "Pressure". But that is NOT scientific and I am not an expert. I have never fired the stuff at the distance you are shooting at. This is a very good and interesting video to me. Thanks, BB
@kuduking8071
@kuduking8071 5 лет назад
Another great presentation. I've used the Federal 00-9 Buck "Tactical" Load with Flight Control Wad - this is a reduced velocity load (nominal 1145 fps). The patterns with that load are I think what made the reputation of the flight control wad. I've patterned that load in multiple shotguns, and in some the pattern was an incredible 2" out to 25 yards. The reduced velocity helps.
@JR-kc8jx
@JR-kc8jx 10 месяцев назад
I know it was four years ago but do you remember the choke?
@Kinetic.44
@Kinetic.44 10 месяцев назад
The full choke is interfering with the wad, that's whats causing the inconsistency. Up to modified is okay, but cylinder bore is best for it. The special rear breaking wad does all the work.
@frankbutta9344
@frankbutta9344 5 лет назад
I’ll watch anything dealing with controlling the flight of a wad...lol!
@ChrisGilliamOffGrid
@ChrisGilliamOffGrid 5 лет назад
Normally on Pornhub tho.
@sqwk2559
@sqwk2559 5 лет назад
Frank Butta - cheap sunglasses work for me.
@saskafrass1985
@saskafrass1985 5 лет назад
Too many double entendres'. At Christmas my Bother and I had a very awkward conversation with our Mother about what he really bought me since I was very pleased that he bought me a 5" black ball starter and a fine brass nipple pick.
@WillyK51
@WillyK51 4 года назад
If you hunt with buck shot, you use a 24" to 28" proper chocked gun. Not a cilinder bored gun. Home defense a cilinder bore is fine.
@matthewdockter2424
@matthewdockter2424 5 лет назад
Glad you did a review on this stuff. I've heard so much about it. I haven't watched through it yet but I'm glad you're covering it. Looking forward to your results!
@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644
@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644 4 года назад
Posting a link 20 times...Lighten up Francis. After seeing test on buck shot over 40 yrs. not much has changed ,it was always the worst choice for deer.
@johnski4709
@johnski4709 5 лет назад
Any thoughts on the current gun control legislation in Oregon.... If it passes can I have all your stuff =D j/k
@svtirefire
@svtirefire 5 лет назад
He's not in Oregon
@d.magnum3271
@d.magnum3271 5 лет назад
If it ain't raining, it ain't Oregon.
@anthonycather8035
@anthonycather8035 5 лет назад
@FlamQ Dbltap are they seriously trying to pass that ?
@anthonycather8035
@anthonycather8035 5 лет назад
@FlamQ Dbltap idk what's going on in Oregon I'm in Michigan sry
@crosswalkguy435
@crosswalkguy435 5 лет назад
@@anthonycather8035 Yip. I already called my state senators and reps. It would take me 10 months to save enough for one competition... Also want a background check when you buy the ammo
@geetarmanpete
@geetarmanpete 5 лет назад
I am a sub to tons of YT gun channels. Paul Harrell is, by far, the Professor of actual facts and usable knowledge.
@arieheath7773
@arieheath7773 5 лет назад
I’m relatively certain the point of the flite control is to provide a tighter pattern at the ranges shotguns are typically used. I’ve had really good results with the 8 pellet LE load.
@tomstone3645
@tomstone3645 5 лет назад
Arie Heath not true unless you post the link 20X
@glockmpw
@glockmpw 5 лет назад
Arie, I hear the same thing. 8-pellet for us was a game changer compared to the previous Winchester buck load. With a modified choke we get satisfactory performance on a target out to 40 yards and beyond. Different ethical standard vs hunting but the 8-pellet would cert@inly ruin a felon’s day out that far.
@TropicalGardenGuy
@TropicalGardenGuy 2 года назад
Lol, that deer on target is smaller than a key deer !
@ryanlhobson13
@ryanlhobson13 5 лет назад
If Paul chastised me, I might fall over dead from embarrassment and shame.
@galamonkey
@galamonkey 5 лет назад
I think some of the inconsistency is the choke you are using. I believe they recommend a cylinder bore barrel with the Flitecontrol wads. That way The wad stays with the ammo and keeps it tight. With a tighter choke, the wad gets caught up and slowed down, and the shot exits the wad too soon and spreads normally, as it would without the wad to keep it tight.
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 лет назад
I also had inconsistent results with the cylinder bore.
@erikwolfarng
@erikwolfarng 5 лет назад
This may be common understanding for some but I am curious, where was your point of aim? I'm assuming at the center of the vital area but it would be nice to know as a reference (Point of Aim vs Point of Impact).
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 лет назад
Most shotguns have non adjustable beads so the point of aim is different for each. With the Model 11 in this video it is very well centered with most ammo, but the federal patterned a little high. I ended up having to shoot at the bottom of the chest cavity.
@erikwolfarng
@erikwolfarng 5 лет назад
@@PaulHarrell Thank you! Love your videos. Very informative. Your steadfast professionalism; passion for responsible and effective firearm application is self evident! Semper Fi!!
@ve7yan
@ve7yan 5 лет назад
5:50 with full choke..... oh, that's the problem. You are not supposed to deform the "packet" with a full choke.
@TheKentuckyPatriot
@TheKentuckyPatriot 5 лет назад
Another great very informative video! :-)
@joedoakes8778
@joedoakes8778 Год назад
I realize this is a four year old video, however I'd like to point out that nowhere on Federal's website (that I saw) does it say this ammo is intended for open choke barrels. Many have commented, both here and elsewhere, that Flight Control shells are intended for cylinder bore barrels. That their use in choked barrels will cause patterning and POA/POI problems by the choke stripping away the wad. If this is so, I have not seen the documentation. Perhaps someone can provide said documentation?
@Clever-Name
@Clever-Name 5 лет назад
Could you test the effectiveness of the "PDX1 defender" rounds by Winchester? It's a shotshell with a rifled slug AND 3 plated 00 buckshot. If you have already done a review on those rounds I apologize for having missed it.
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 лет назад
I shot something like that in the Taurus judge, but not in a 12 ga. I'll see if I can find some.
@JoshBenware
@JoshBenware 5 лет назад
The pdx1 segmenting slug without the 00buck is far better
@Clever-Name
@Clever-Name 5 лет назад
@@PaulHarrell Thank you for the response. I have a box of these shotshells, but I have never fired them. Just curious how well they pattern and penetrate. I bought them at Wal-Mart so they should be easy to find for testing.
@Evergreen1400
@Evergreen1400 5 лет назад
Chris C. Even if he showed you how they patterned out of his shotgun you’d still need to shoot them out of your own ,don’t be afraid to get out there and shoot some shit,I can’t put a gun into my active rotation until I’ve fully broke it in and got myself aquatinted with it and I won’t put any kind of ammo into my daily defensive guns be it my sidearms or the shotgun by the bed that I haven’t fully tested for feeding issues/mag issues anything else just general unreliability or sometimes ammo that every other gun loves is completely useless out of the one you got.
@TropicalGardenGuy
@TropicalGardenGuy 5 лет назад
a real deer would be twice the size of the target
@eliusaucedo6227
@eliusaucedo6227 5 лет назад
When I want an evaluation on any weapon with detail productivity, this is my first stop. Thanks Paul, you're the best.
@PeteHemdem
@PeteHemdem 5 лет назад
So in so many words, use a modified or full choke if you're hunting with buckshot.
@matt5415
@matt5415 5 лет назад
Isn't the target small for a deer? That's cocker spaniel size.
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 лет назад
My bad, it wasn't part one, it was our video on paper targets.
@leprekhantar347
@leprekhantar347 5 лет назад
Yes, it is. He addressed that in his previous video. I believe the reason was to error on the side of unfavorable conditions.
@CFurnace-72
@CFurnace-72 5 лет назад
Those are east TX deer.
@aaronbelden8894
@aaronbelden8894 5 лет назад
Just think of it as the deer is farther away
@matt5415
@matt5415 5 лет назад
Sorry Paul. I think the paper target video is the only one I never watched. I KNEW I was going to get called out.
@randyjohnson6845
@randyjohnson6845 3 года назад
Flight control seems to be for guys that are hard headed and just dont want to use full or super full chokes.also so the deer target is so small that you could in theory add a additional 35 yards
@brittcamp28
@brittcamp28 5 лет назад
Paul, have you ever tested cut shells for effectiveness?
@Spike-13
@Spike-13 5 лет назад
That would be cool to see
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 5 лет назад
I do believe he has a video on cut shells, not so much as testing them but explaining how and why it's a bad idea.
@Formerlywarmer
@Formerlywarmer 3 года назад
yes he has a video of it and also wax loads...I've done the cut shell since I was a kid and the wax trick is cool to see.
@proonguice8386
@proonguice8386 5 лет назад
I would love to see some blooper/outtake reels. Similar to TYM. I may piss my pants hearing Paul drop one or two bleeped out F-Bombs. I know it has to happen occasionally.
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 лет назад
My outtakes aren't very funny. It's usually me saying, "with and smesson... Cut"
@benbarker8154
@benbarker8154 5 лет назад
New to shooting. May I request a short video on chronographs? What makes a good/bad model etc. . .
@secondamendment8773
@secondamendment8773 5 лет назад
I second (😄) that suggestion but we would need to kick in some cash on the Patrion account to help pay for them.
@fallenpatriot7917
@fallenpatriot7917 5 лет назад
I've had really good luck with the Competition Electronics Pro Chrono and the CED Millennium. I think both are easy to find at a lot of shooting retailers.
@coady-wp3xf
@coady-wp3xf 5 лет назад
that is a great question ! are the high price ones worth it or can a jober one get the same results. but like in many if not all of his videos he dose say they tend to not agree with one another. so maybe explain why they do get the same results. would be cool as heck if AVE and him did a video together. uncle bumblefuck has a way of explaining things ;)
@andystampfli9127
@andystampfli9127 5 лет назад
Not trying to rain on your new hobby but a chronograph is above novice level. If you have the money you can but I'd spend it on ammo and targets until you settle in some. Have fun
@benbarker8154
@benbarker8154 5 лет назад
@@andystampfli9127 Fair enough. Baby steps. Thanks for the advice.
@Curdledgorilla
@Curdledgorilla 5 лет назад
Firing buckshot through a full choke can potentially cause pellet deformation as the pellets are squeezed through the choke. Pellet deformation increases aerodynamic instability and can open up the pattern or increase inconsistency. I would be interested to see if the flight control buckshot is more consistent through a cylinder choke.
@MultiSycorax
@MultiSycorax 5 лет назад
Blessed with more Paul Harrel woohoo
@henryomeara9701
@henryomeara9701 3 года назад
God Be With You Mr. Harrell! Your generous masculine honesty very effectively eliminates uncertainty! Entire Thanks!
@scud553
@scud553 5 лет назад
Hey Paul could you do a video on the 327 Federal? Would love your input on it
@johnnixon228
@johnnixon228 5 лет назад
Id like to see that one too.
@TreeWizard648
@TreeWizard648 5 лет назад
I would also like to see .44 special.
@michaelreardon7667
@michaelreardon7667 5 лет назад
I would like that also .
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 5 лет назад
@@TreeWizard648 : 44 Special v. meat target and chronograph would be interesting.
@calebchristensen900
@calebchristensen900 5 лет назад
I’d like him to do some vs videos of some of the newer ammo types, 357 mag vs 327 Fed. And the 350 legend and the other typical low recoil deer rounds.
@WHOTEEWHO
@WHOTEEWHO 5 лет назад
20X??? 🤣🤣🤣
@joseescudero6688
@joseescudero6688 5 лет назад
It is a pretty good video, but this buck size is too small. Looks like a coyote size. Just saying.
@GunSam
@GunSam 5 лет назад
Federal makes consistent everything in my opinion.
@GunSam
@GunSam 5 лет назад
As I watch the video I have to admit, that Federal buckshot is a little bit inconsistent, however I still stick by my original claim for centerfire handgun ammo -as it's always very close to advertised velocity with low extreme deviations and has decent working hollow points and accurate target ammo.
@Ikarias1
@Ikarias1 5 лет назад
Weedus: Try Czech 00 buck from Sellier Bellot. Reasonably good stuff, I have good experience with 12/70 and its relatively cheap.
@tsufordman
@tsufordman 5 лет назад
@Weedus Never seen or heard of Geco, but a quick search just now shows that it is available.
@GunSam
@GunSam 5 лет назад
@Weedus I have tried Geco .357 Magnum before. It seemed like good ammo.
@GunSam
@GunSam 5 лет назад
And while i'm here mentioning this, I just remembered that Federal makes some really good primers for hand loading too. They are a tad soft so they do sometimes falsely represent an over-pressuring sign when fired as they will flatten into the whole primer pocket, but they perform quite well, seat real well and all of that.
@jdanbadford1609
@jdanbadford1609 4 года назад
Great video as always! You are a knowledgeable resource. Thanks as always.
@bobbylee7801
@bobbylee7801 5 лет назад
I can't believe that deer was hanging out on the ridge like nothing was going on
@CmdrCorn
@CmdrCorn 5 лет назад
Glad someone else noticed... I dont know if he's an idiot 1 wild shot away from a BBQ, or a genius hanging out where all the other critters dont have the balls to play...
@biggysground
@biggysground 5 лет назад
It's best to shoot the deer once with buckshot and let it wonder around until it bleeds out or drops? I once had a deer wonder up to my stand, took the shot using a slug, it dropped. During skinning, the deer had taken numerous buck shots and was peppered down one side ruining much of the meat. Buckshot that missed all vitals but hit everywhere else. Know your limitations when hunting with buckshot. I prefer slugs for that very reason. Many States outlaw hunting with buckshot. You be the judge.
@poot111111
@poot111111 5 лет назад
well said, could not agree more. They deserve to be harvested humanely and why risk wasting meat?
@rustyshackleford17
@rustyshackleford17 5 лет назад
I shot one buck that was shot 17 times. 2 of which were slugs from that year. Only thing I got out of it. Most, of theme were poor shots.
@frankhellman6879
@frankhellman6879 5 лет назад
8:15 - Can you do four boxes across? ;)
@beverlybrevit4288
@beverlybrevit4288 4 года назад
Deer is a little small (scale for test), mod choke from my gun gives an 8" pattern at 25yds with low recoil flightcontrol, after 25yds select slug through 100yds.
@1yehny
@1yehny 5 лет назад
Good content, as always. Would you do an accuracy comparison between one handed and two handed shooting? And how to improve?
@Robert-qm7yi
@Robert-qm7yi 5 лет назад
It would only make for a 5 or so minute video, but I'll give you the short version. Two handed is more accurate than one handed in every normal case You improve by shooting, dry firing and thinking long and hard about it
@1yehny
@1yehny 5 лет назад
What about grip? What about arm position? What about breathing? I find one handed to be different from two handed grip on the gun.
@Robert-qm7yi
@Robert-qm7yi 5 лет назад
@@1yehny It usually is different. Browse youtube for stances and figure out what works for you, Paul Harrel has a video on it if I remember right, Hickock45 as well I think. Breathing isn't as important as everyone say it is, breathe out when you shoot, breathe in, hold it, doesn't matter after you settle in
@jamesoliva9531
@jamesoliva9531 Год назад
Hi Paul, Federal DOES NOT RECOMMEND shooting flight control through a full choke. Perhaps you would get a better result from a mod. or IC choke. But why? why not just use the 12ga. with the full choke, I think you will get a better pattern than you would with the Flight Control. I know I consistently get great patterns out to 50 yds.
@Kinetic.44
@Kinetic.44 10 месяцев назад
The problem is that the choke now negatively affects slug accuracy. It's very much like how it affects the accuracy of these rear breaking wads. Some slugs might be safe to fire like a soft lead foster that will swage down... others might not be safe at all. You absolutely can get tighter patterns with a full or extra full extended ported buckshot specific choke tubes. You can make crazy 80-100 yard shots using buck like that, but slugs are effective at well over 200 yards if you know your holds.
@bobyoung241
@bobyoung241 5 лет назад
I like the bungee. I think I'll use that next time I shoot my wad into a meat target. I think it would help with recoil control.
@roccoelleto9900
@roccoelleto9900 5 лет назад
While I don't know that I would use this ammo for hunting dear at distance, this is a great personal defense round in the police and civilian world IMO. The agency I worked for switched to Federal Premium Buckshot Flight Control 9 pellet buckshot several years ago for a few reasons. The military grade 00-Buck hit hard but spread out quite a bit even at 15 yards. We trained patrol that the shotgun with buckshot was a 25 yard and closer tool. Other buckshot had a 16-20 inch spread at this distance which could mean pellets not hitting an intended target. The Federal load had a much tighter group (usually 10-14 inches at 25 yards) and even tighter at 15 yards (Hand size groups). This tighter group even helped with qualification scores and gave officers the confidence that they could strike their intended target and not have to worry about flyers. Great video.
@JR-kc8jx
@JR-kc8jx 4 года назад
“Come on, Buddy!”
@IAmNotAHorse
@IAmNotAHorse 3 года назад
Phase 1: Like video Phase 2: Watch video Phase 3: Profit
@ericking1000
@ericking1000 5 лет назад
Yessss I use that ammo I been waiting for this video !!!!
@wyattblessing7078
@wyattblessing7078 5 лет назад
TY for this follow up. I'd really like to see you with the Hornady Critical Defense 00 Buck w\ Flight Control Wad. I know your busy, and already covered this subject, but if you get bored.....
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 5 лет назад
Yes. Friday made.
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 5 лет назад
Also, first*.
@lackinpop4486
@lackinpop4486 5 лет назад
Paul is the best easily my favorite gun RU-vidr
@alphazulu3555
@alphazulu3555 5 лет назад
1st. Another great video!
@StevenL00
@StevenL00 5 лет назад
you're 2nd, missed it by seconds probably
@jeremygunslinger1948
@jeremygunslinger1948 5 лет назад
Were I live I can only use slugs to hunt deer. I find that they work better. Then buckshot.
@mozzberg590
@mozzberg590 5 лет назад
@8:22, was that magic?
@fallenpatriot7917
@fallenpatriot7917 5 лет назад
It was was Paul, of course it was magic.
@T-Bone-Grizzle
@T-Bone-Grizzle 4 года назад
I'd love to see a comparison of cylinder, modified, improved and full choke.
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 4 года назад
That would be good to see.
@leebornaman5508
@leebornaman5508 5 лет назад
Your tedium=our education and entertainment. Thanks Paul
@Derek-ls3wg
@Derek-ls3wg 4 дня назад
Great video. RIP Paul.
@galamonkey
@galamonkey 5 лет назад
The Hornady Critical Duty or Critical Defense buckshot also has a special wad flies very tight like the Flitecontrol.
@loganhockenberry5026
@loganhockenberry5026 5 лет назад
Lol it is the flight control wad hornady just cant call it that
@bubbatime
@bubbatime 5 лет назад
They buy the wads from federal, so yeah, they are flite control
@flightparamedic505
@flightparamedic505 5 лет назад
Awesome video. Thanks Paul !
@smugly6793
@smugly6793 5 лет назад
Couldn’t control my wad when I saw the notification
@ponthis1
@ponthis1 5 лет назад
My hero!!! Great video Paul. I'm sure someone is going to find something to complain about in it, but then again they would complain if you gave them 100 one dollar bills...
@theladygunsmith
@theladygunsmith 5 лет назад
It's not even a crispy bill!! Yeah, I can see that.
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau 5 лет назад
Buck shot! If you absolutely, positively need to guarantee you’ll gut shot a deer and ruin the meat.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 лет назад
f5tornadeau I’ve killed deer when I was a kid with .410 buck and never gut shot any. I got an extra week early hunting that way if you used primitive or buck and I was poor and very hungry.
@knownuthinarcher4308
@knownuthinarcher4308 5 лет назад
@@john-paulsilke893 Yeah, it's amazing what learning how to hunt properly can accomplish. Someone probably tried a sawed off/cylinder bore with a 3" 15-pellet magnum at 40yds. "Buckshot sucks! It ruined my deer!" Buckshot in a .410, 20, 16 or 12 gauge can cleanly harvest a deer if the hunter does his part.
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau 5 лет назад
John-Paul Silke I was obviously exaggerating for effect. The fact of the matter is that, as evidenced by this video, using buck shot greatly increases your chances of getting a bad hit on a deer. “7 hits, 2 in the vitals...”. Ok, and the other 5? That’s just not acceptable enough odds for me. If buck shot works for you, then go for it. Personally, if I want to extend my season and take shots at 30 yds or less, I’ll just use my bow. That gives me a 4 month season in KS. If shotgun is a viable option in your area, then why not use slugs? I think that any legislators in a state with a buck shot only season (is that really a thing?) has their heads up you know where.
@mtnman8876
@mtnman8876 5 лет назад
the 2 times i used buckshot the meat was fine and the deer didnt take a step.
@jakeg1148
@jakeg1148 5 лет назад
He did but his effective range was half what I get. I think he was cutting them too low. Maybe I should post the video of myself shooting pumpkins 20 times at 50 yards with cut shells.
@jamiesloan5902
@jamiesloan5902 5 лет назад
You defeated the purpose, and design of this ammo, when you went to a full choke. It just stripped the wad off, when it squeezed thru the choke. I pattern A LOT of buckshot with 8 different size chokes, and I CANNOT beat the patterns of the Flight Control from a cylinder bore. This ammo isn't just "hype". But, you're right... Buckshot is just inconsistent in nature. Great video, as always, Paul.
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video. I've shot the low recoil version of this ammunition in defensive shotguns. I've always assumed this ammunition was developed mostly to reduce the number of stray pellets in self-defense or law enforcement situations. The idea of using them for deer hunting is interesting, and this test suggests that the higher power version would work. Your tests suggest that the range wouldn't change that much.
@anchorbait6662
@anchorbait6662 5 лет назад
Posting a link to his video 20 times! THAT'S ALOT!
@drewsaunders8484
@drewsaunders8484 5 лет назад
Wow he puts a lot of work into his videos
@justinrosas7120
@justinrosas7120 5 лет назад
Thanks for making this video, Paul. A bunch of your subscribers wanted you to check this out. I remember seeing several comments. You’re the man!
@derekh3577
@derekh3577 5 лет назад
I am going to have to have my wife to check the flight control of my wade since I can't see it go down range....
@aaroncraig2250
@aaroncraig2250 5 лет назад
Best gun channel on RU-vid
@frankhellman6879
@frankhellman6879 5 лет назад
Flight Control. This WAD 9738 departing Barrel Two Whiskey Alpha bound for Target Bravo. Over.
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