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What I'm bringing to the table is provision, stability, guidance, leadership, strength, support, discipline, and when I ask a woman what she brings I'm talking about peace, support my stress relief after dealing with the outside world trying to rip me to shreds on a daily basis. Is she the one that's going to say it's ok you got this or, am I going to come home to nothing to eat, and have my woman coming at me sideways as well?
It shows the requirements women really be having for the men they date. Then pick the men who are out in the streets expecting them to actually be the ones to fulfill those requirements, and when they don't, the rest of us get the blame for it, lol.
What’s amazing to me is when Blk women say Blk men don’t protect them. When they keep voicing and their actions keep saying they don’t want our protection.
@@R0yALtySI think his point is a lot you all act as though you don't need men. I even hear black women say it often. Not needing one leads one to think you don't need his protection.
So her calling him on his platform “this nigga” over and over is considered her being respectful but him calling women who sleep with men for money “prostitutes” is disrespectful? Make that make sense please.
Exactly I’m so sick of them taking about their feminity has to be brought out of them by the right man makes no sense. Women I the past generations would get offended by just saying to a girl that they weren’t feminine it was an insult to them and they would go off on you
White shirt is a feminist, middle woman said 8 words, light skin woman likes to hear her own voice cuz none of her thoughts were coherent. I'm glad they weren't ratchet bc it proves that delusion, confusion, & bitterness aren't class based. Gentleman choose carefully & wisely...SMH
@@butterflymage5623slowing down the conversation and making a concise point. This never happens here, women make asinine claims and it’s usually overlooked or breezed passed!!!
Had a driver, had all her bills paid, was able to save her money, never felt safer in her life and still left him and expects the same and better from the next man 😂 She hit the lottery and didn’t even realize it
A good man in the middle east comes with controlling family members you don't have the same views as your good man. unless you're willing to be treated like crap by his family and her being a black woman she probably was going through it form his family, hence her missing home part..
The prostitution Convo was funny. How this woman going to say what those women were “ trying to say”. 😂😂😂 they said what they wanted to say. Women swear they are the most educated but can’t articulate themselves well? 😂😂😂😂 Crazy. Thank yall for standing strong and not conforming because their feelings are hurt.
Some of the dumbest things I heard women say. In addition to having ALL TYPES of excuses for those women lined up and ready. She didn't go up there in good faith to have a wholesome Convo with an exchange of opinions...she came on there to catch them slipping. You saw she had her Handy Dandy Notebook 📓 at the ready.
"I can't worry about people's feelings, especially when it comes to women because they are very emotional. I'm not the type to walk on eggshells just to protect your feelings " I felt that💯
This is why arguing with women is nonsense. They don't have the logic for it. Example: fight for the "right to make own money", begin dating a man who she THINKS she makes just as much money as, then leaves him when the feminine role and right to access masculine roles is too much but somehow doing it ALL on her own is easier than splitting the load with a decent man. How does that make sense?
Shout out to Eli and the gang not letting these women tone police them to death on their own podcast, because they don't like the blunt observations and conclusions men have come to due to a lot of women's behavior.
They literally was trying to change the words of what other women say. "Oh she didn't mean to say it that way" huh? So when she say "F love I'm looking for a bag" she meant she's looking for a masculine leader that treats her right.. these women are wild and avoid accountability.
They’re unaccountable worldly children who have no relationship with the most high. They worship the things of this world and themselves. They will not be seeing the kingdom of god the way they’re going. These fools chose 5 million dollars over being in the presence of the most high. All Jezebels.
Hearing the biracial girl speak solidify that women do not know what they want had a good man it seems like she wanted some toxicity in her life and that’s why she left smh
So we cant call prostitute actions...prostitute? That's like saying we can't call a dude wit no place to stay homeless..critical thinking is lost amongst women in my culture and its scary. Not even thru wit the episode but i had to point this out
I believe this is a generation thing rather than a race thing. Sooo many people of our generation no matter race are going through the same relationship issues.
Say that one more time to the black men in the front...not sure why they think relationship issues are mainly black women when we live I'm this modern world. Sometimes these black dudes sound prejudiced against their own kind
White shirt is a feminist. She will challenge your authority every step of the way. The narcissist manipulation would never stop. Not until the relationship breaks up
Yup she's a chameleon. She tries to talk soft to make herself seem feminine, but she masculine b/c she "thinks" she's smarter than most men. Therefore she's going to disrespect every men she comes across unless, he's a top tier guy with a PHD or making a lot of money.
@@truebengalsfan We as a people better take every one serious. They have children or will have children & they WILL put poison N theirs heads waaaay before the world gets a hold of them. They they will use the exact same language, "My DAD wasn't N my life"
The problem with these types of conversations is that the idea of relationship is discussed from a transactional perspective and not from a doing life together with a partner. They are two very distinctive perspectives.
The *ENTIRE BLACK COMMUNITY* has been hurt and is traumatized. We can no longer use our history as a shield against the recognition of our bad actions. Also, people are able to be better because of their trauma, not only worse. You can take that pain and use it to empower yourself.
@@thefirstprime0124 I haven't watched the vid yet but FACTS! Especially, the non-toxic black men we BEEN hurting since the 70s! It's slim pickings outchea. Peace to you fam!
Here's an example of a Woman's Hypergamous nature. She's dating 2 guys, one makes 60K a year and the other makes 120K per year! She chooses, the guy that has more security than the other guy. She still exhibits single behavior, posting sexy pics on IG for attention, displays herself as single when she's alone or out with friends. She's not married yet so in her mind she's still single. Although this woman has started dating this one man exclusively, she turns down other men that doesn't exhibit the level of security her man has, until the more handsome, more wealthy, athlete pulls up in an Aston Martin and tries to get her number, and then she caves and gives him the number. She sees a guy that has far more security than her man and she doesn't turn him down. It doesn't have to be an athlete, it's just that the mext man is on a leveluch higher than the giy she's with and she continues the cycle until she reaches a level that she's comfortable with. Alot of women feels as though Men should know, expect, and be okay with this..... But don't let a man operate on his nature to want to sleep with more than one woman while dating 😂
BM…we know you don’t understand ALOT of things about how REAL men seeking POWER move in the world. I’m sure this comment will go over your head but that only explains why black men in the diaspora has allowed their own race to be where it has been for centuries
@@TheBlackGeoI thought you can tell by the energy of a woman if she's feminine. So shouldn't that be enough for you to know if she's wife material? IJS🤷♀️
It's unfortunate during this dating Era that men and women don't date exclusively for a purpose other than speed dating because if it was like the past...well, yes, men should foot the bill, but it gets really expensive if your dating 2 -3 times per day on a daily basis. Back in the day, you'd date 3 women and settle with one....in that case footing the bill ain't an issue, which it shouldn't be.
@@DailyRapUpCrewWhat is it a man needs to “stay woke” about? If as a man you are choosing a woman based upon the standards you have set for the type of partner you desire, why stay to the point that you over invest.
I met 1 high value man in my life.He loved me and treated me really good.I was from the hood and he still wanted me 😢 he did work alot but made time for me.He lifted me up and taught me all the good things i know today.Hes proud of me ,he watched me grow.I thank him still today for showing what a man is 😢 i messed it up i can admit it. Ladies, they are out here, and he hated that i wore weave and nails ( its what i done for work a stylist" 😢 i feel bad for this generation 😢we all need healing men and women ❤
The fact these women didn't have enough sense to realize that just bcus you're spending 5 minutes with Jesus doesn't mean you're out right dead in addition to the fact they care more about money than their immortal soul is crazy
Say whatever you want Eli. Don't be afraid to hurt feelings. Kevin Samuels didn't care and you shouldn't either. Feeling sometimes need to be hurt.............AND feelings can lie to you...... so F their feelings........ Facts over feelings everyday all day.....
Right like Antwoine Daniels be saying I don’t give a damn about your feelings the facts speaks for itself. Don’t hold back on em cuz women don’t like the truth only the lies
Super models ? Just bc they look better than the women yall are able to pull in a first world country , doesnt make them super models. And yall say women are delusional 😂
That Brownstowne chick is part of the problem. She doesn’t want to work but has so much to say. Women back in the day, stayed at home & understood that biting their tongue came with being taken care of.
The thing is that woman back in the day HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO OBEY A MAN. Men now a days don't understand that us woman has a choice to live the life they pleased to do!!
These women are demonstrating the exact problem with the current state of dating discourses now. The absence of shame and lack of accountability, the two girls on the ends not liking the terminology should hold they fellow girls accountable and they wouldn't seem like black women being "labeled as sex workers." She defend characters she don't even know, talk about delusional fr 😂 cuz how she know all them past women wasn't this (hypergamous) or that (bein masculine) they must be psychics too
This is a lose lose situation. There's not enough time on earth to fight up stream just to find happiness with modern black women. They want everything but want to give nothing. It's not worth it. Go abroad. This is too insane
The root of the problem is both men and women don't want to put more then 50% and are ready to call it quits , because to much emotions not enough commitment.
Why is she trying to tell Eli what the saying? How to say it? This is ridiculous. This man can say what he want to say. He's a grown man. See I'm tired of women doing this foolishness. When is this going to stop?
I've been tuned into this podcast for a few months now and this is the first time I'm commenting. This was def one of y'all better episodes. Keep grinding
I feel like this is probably the worst. These women are very uneducated and didn’t pull off a good conversation to meet in the middle. Too much emotion. But these guys did stand on their toes to keep them in check
I guess she was saying like contributing financially period …not EXACTLY 50/50 ..and theirs nothin wrong with that .. especially if it’s a chance the man probably would most likely make more than her anyway
That's cuz some women don't think bruh. A lot of women will carry this notion that women aren't supposed to work or contribute as much but all of human history will prove opposite. There is no 50/50, you contribute as much as the house and family needs.
@@radiantgoldensun6438please explain 100/100 when the man and the woman are not making the same salary? This make no sense. Your ancestors did not think like you.
This trauma bs amongst the black community is getting old. I’m a black male attending medical school and I’m living a great life. I’m happy where I am currently. I worked hard. Trauma just seems like an excuse.
Heavy on the compassion black men and women need to have grace and compassion for each other. Check yourself individually to make sure you're healed and come together and build eachother up.
I've watched about 3 of your show's i like it alot. Just because we in the comments give our opinion don't mean we didn't enjoy what your talking about, we do ❤❤❤ and ill always hit like ,these are important conversations very needed.
The differences between men and women in relationships are that women want choices to do what they want to be happy and men simply don’t have 1:18:49 choices they must provide , protect and help within the household every day regardless of his individual happiness. He is head of the household and must act accordingly to solve every problem within his family and come up with solutions to many problems for every member of his household. It’s never was a choice it’s his responsibility.
Only Black History ignored by Blacks... THE NEGR0 PROJECT: *38% of Black pregnancies are aborted, over 50% in NYC. BW are by far most overweight, least married, most in debt, and 78% of their children have no Dad by DESIGN. THE NEGR0 PROJECT is now called Planned Parenthood💥 The Welfare Act finished the job of destroying the Black Family. 1854 founded to STOP SLAVERY... Republican Party 1860 founded to KEEP SLAVERY... Democrat Party Republicans literally beat the Democrats in the Civil War in 1865. "we want to exterminate the Negro population.” -Margaret Sanger, founder of THE NEGR0 PROJECT/Planned Parenthood & a Democrat. See the Democrat's plan yet?
The counter argument for not successful yet vs not emotionally ready is that not being successful yet doesn’t mean you are bringing potential harm to the relationship. Not being emotionally ready can and will bring harm to the relationship.
"True, no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but it is painful." That quote is from one of the most excellent teachers to ever live. People have gotten so soft that they can't stand the sting of truth. Sometimes what you want to hear isn't what you need to hear.
Funny how most men live on their own. Pay their own bills. And provide their own meals and clean their homes. But we still aren't doing enough for our women. Lol😅
She is low-key in her feelings. Like how you going to come on somebody else's platform and tell them how they should be careful with their delivery I mean at the end of the day you can't care about people's feelings because it is what it is.
I recently had to teach a foreign black lady what products to buy. People made a complaint about the smell in the supervisors embarrassed her in front of everybody. I felt it was disrespectful how they went about telling her. I asked myself if I if I came from another country how would I know what to buy. I got her some cocoa butter, pink oil moisturizer, and some Blue Magic. A couple weeks later she asked me to show her what I bought and that her husband loves it. Before that she was going to quit over the embarrassment.... last week she started greasing her scalp... it's easier for us because we grew up knowing what to buy
This be my problem with most women 1:04:15 the light skin woman just said most men don't provide or give that security for a woman to feel like she can just be a housewife and how other races got that then in the same breath say she had a good man that did everthing but she didn't want to be a housewife because she wanted more freedom and didn't want no kids or stay home lol I say this all the time most women are just looking for a good time not a long term relationship the age gap play apart but that's why it's funny when girls get mad at men dating younger women but it's cool for younger women to pursue older man for their resources lol 😂 the way some think is so backwards
MOST BLACK MEN say out of their oen mouths that they dont want to get married. Alot of women say out of their own mouths that men are telling them they arent looking for relationships. Its men who dont want to commit. If you think women dont want to commit, it must be because you dont have any options.
@@soundsaboutright--- everything she said was contradictory, she wants the freedom to do what she wants to do at the same time want a man to play his part and not hold her to her part, sounds like a contradiction to me and that most women nowadays. It annoying that our roles as man is i have to provide and protect but at the same i should allow my women to be free to do what she wants and i shouldnt make adhere to her role as women and also be ok with her leaving me coz she doesn't want to feel tied down, yeah i think us men need to change our roles since it become negotiable
@stacih1025 and most women aint wife able enough to be provided for. We can do this all day but what i said stands " one rule for you but not for me" that how most women move nowadays and to say otherwise is just being disingenuous
This conversation makes me want to be there so bad. I'm talking to my telephone. How these young ladies equating a man's financial journey to a women's femininity? Just because a man isn't wealthy or rich doesn't mean that he isn't masculine. Smh
@@Maryland-Man-Son the way she was disagreeing to me wasn't a genuine "ok I see where your coming from" but more of a "passive aggressive" stand point. I don't have a problem with people disagreeing but the way she was doing it was moreso to gain control over what was said, how it should be said, and how she feels. Throughout the whole Convo she's (women with white T) is trying to make all these excuses for the women but yet it's a definitive thing with the Men. For instance the very beginning she was trying to control the flow of the Convo and dictate what feminine vs masculine was (which was flat out wrong) and then later on say "we explained what this particular thing is" when everyone as a collective didn't do that, she by herself did. Then multiple times when Eli explained something she would quickly try to rearrange what was being talked about. Even when she told Eli to his face "you need to be careful on what you say on your platform" at face value it may have looked sincere but it was very much so a hidden undertone of "stop talking about it like that and now specifically about Black Women". Through the whole thing it was clear to me she wasn't there for a genuine Convo but to catch Eli slipping so she can correct. It's the same thing that other women tried with Kevin Samuel's but tried to play sweet and koi
This debate is useless, the women in white was simply arguing; “BUT THE MEN ALSO”🥴 its like BW can’t be criticized unless BM are mentioned or criticized too. In her mind women are only gonna be submissive/feminine when men start becoming masculine, the men are saying we won’t date/marry you if you don’t start as a feminine/submissive woman. logically it has to start from the women, cus women are the gatekeepers of sex, since relationships start first with sex then commitment. She has to make the first sacrifice otherwise that VALUABLE man won’t date/marry her, then after she proves to him, he will prove to her why she should date him too, by courting her. After the relationship is solidified. She has to keep him, cus he can go find another one. Men’s standards aren’t as high as females, so he can replace you faster
All 3 ladies on this episode showed once again why men are single and childless, why men are not get into relationships and marriages in America, why men are giving up and why men are leaving America to find women and make better lives for themselves
That shit really ain't true....just people in large metro areas, mainly coastal..have a warped idea of what the world really is. Yall been trained to "need" certain things and to be in certain places.
@@coreythomas3633 Why do black men think being masculine is only have “BBC” ? I’ve never heard my brothers or cousins say that having money is not important for masculinity, this is why I stay away from this manosphere space , plus I have a wife so advice on how to pick up women is irrelevant
The reality is........... "if given the choice all of these women on the panel would chose a man with money over a man that could provide everything needed in a long term relationship besides money" I'll even go so far as to say that they would even take a rich abuser over a not poor but not rich man!
33:40 HYPERGAMY- the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background... LADIES WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WOMEN WANT A SUCCESSFUL MAN, HOWEVER MOST WOMEN DONT QUALIFY THE HIGH VALUE MEN YALL SEEK.
They dont even want successful men. They want HYPER successful men. If she making 40k and i make 80k, im more successful than her yet im broke to alot of women
@stacih1025 in reality most BW do Pratice hypergamy. That's the reason is so many bby mommas. We prioritize only finances and status vs character and morals. If BW PRIORITIZE TANGIBLE THINGS THEY WOULD HAVE BETTER AND LONGER LASTING RELATIONSHIPS.
Miss Brownstone, she believes that she was making sense that being feminine is feeling safe. Being feminine is being a woman. She has a podcast? Smh! Katy believes being feminine is a conscious thing, when I believe it's the other way. A woman being masculine is unnatural. Miss Brownstone said someone on another episode couldn't articulate well, when she should look into the mirror. Katy's points lacked logic, because her points were all emotionally lead. 70% percent of married women work. These women are obviously attracted to Pookies and Ray Ray's, which to them are all men. The BW are the least protected, because they're not wives. The man protects his wife, but since only 1 of 4 will marry, they'll continue to not be protected. Katy leaving what seemed like a good relationship, because she's basically immature. Just based off her ink, none of the women are wife material. A housewife is an important job, these women are dismissing it as if it has no value when it does. Katy, Juu did not misinterprete you, Juu nailed it. Lol, Katy told Juu to don't cut her off, while cutting him off, smh. Fallas, you gotta do better with not allowing the guests to overtalk the host. It's bad viewing. @1:11:04 Juu dropped that 🔥. Women claim that all men are feminine, so why are these masculine women single? What did Miss Brownstone do immediately afterwards? She returned without an answer to the question, she came back with a bunch of talk. KATY, WOMEN SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY FEMININE, IT'S A WOMAN'S NATURE, NOT A JOURNEY, smh. No offense, but the smartest woman there was Eemah, because she let the outside women sound stupid. Katy, over talking a man is masculine. The only thing Katy was right about the entire show is if the woman gets married again, alimony stops. Lol when Katy said that everything doesn't have to be an argument, when you can tell she's a headache of an argumentative woman. Miss Brownstone, you lower value by marking your body with tattoos, tattoos is masculine.
8:27 it’s funny she say people expect certain things out of women without putting in the work because on the flip side a lot of women expect things out of men without earning it So many women expect the man to start spending money and buying her things the moment they start talking
These women are so traumatized they complain for the finer things in life they get it, then sabotage their own relationships. They need to struggle in life or relationship
I'm at work screaming at my phone like I'm watching sports it's the ones that act like they have knowledge that are really clueless that just my head hurt
I have YET to see a video where these women arent trying to justify, deflect, and shame their way out of accountability. its always "....yea, but" or my favorite - "....its not about....". And then you hear "why do black women have to struggle?" - NEWS FLASH, EVERYONE STRUGGLES. THIS IS LIFE. I find the entitlement, the lack of accountability, the deflection, the selfishness - all absolutely repugnant. Forget a relationship - would you even want a friend like that? How do people like this even have friends?
So black women are selfish for not wanting to accept bread crumbs from a man? And wanting the dude to be financially stable ? NOT RICH but financially stable…everybody does not struggle ..and what’s the point of getting a relationship/marriage to struggle ? Might as well struggle by yourself
@@Maiajlisaaa what exactly are "bread crumbs"? bc let some folks tell it, that means you cant eat out 5 nights a week, cant pay for the fake nails, hair, etc. non-american/non-western women submit and build families with men who wait outside home depot all day with no papers making pennies. why? bc its about their children and the family! not those fake ass nails, hair, weave, phony synthetic pretend costumes that coosts thousands to maintain all for some hollow ass ego and sense of self. money doesnt mean you dont struggle - just means your struggles are different. and frankly, if your man doesnt make enough, get a job and CONTRIBUTE. unless you think you're a 1% woman who doesnt need to and by definition, thats HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Reply
@@keno1766 when I mean accept bread crumbs I’m not saying we saying that because we want materialistic things… it’s nothing wrong with building with your man..but if a woman wants a gut to have his shit together what’s wrong with that? And when I mean “have your shit together “ I mean have a car , job, and are you financially responsible? We not teens anymore ..and building with men is risky because men use women alll the time..and I’m sure your not the men in the percentage that is a high earner😂😂😂
@@keno1766 and In my relationship I don’t mind. contributing .. I don’t think any woman should be sitting on her ass doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNLESS she’s pregnant and after she had the baby she stay Home for a while and rest and take care of the baby..but black deserve proper love not struggle love ..
You know, I’ve watched the power of femininity first hand on the fresh n fit podcast. There was a young lady who was very feminine and soft spoken. But the power she held the moment she talked was easily seen from everyone. Everyone immediately became quiet and gave her the floor whenever she talked. And she was gentle and smart enough to know to listen to understand instead of listening to rebuttal. There was no arguing against her or anything. And listening to her, you knew she would be both a great partner and mother. But the power to speak gently and silence an entire room is something that can only be done with true femininity
