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You guys need to stop just letting these females talk for the sake of talking. If you ask them a direct question, hold them to task to answer the direct question not go off tangent talking about some isolated situation. The section about what privilege men have was an utter waste as they talk about everything but.
Same blueprint for me and my wife.... I'll never forget how her friends came over for our housewarming and was asking why I was being served my plate or her letting me relax while she's attending the guest..... Sexiest thing my wife did was smile at them and said: make sure you thank my husband for the food, drinks and comfort you enjoyed and experienced today! In front of everyone.
What the chick in the middle said at the beginning of the interview about how she bases the dude she picks on looks alone is the same thing I've always told my homegirl - Women, especially Black Women, want an accessory rather than a relationship. Envy over a happy relationship. And that's real
Tbh, you can find BW that pick and choose who needs looks, and who doesn't need looks. A man that's considered to be handsome isn't always who they go for every single time. Handsome guys may be some of the most rejected guys in town because they were supposedly missing something else that the other guy BW are now bitter about had. # Game # Swag # Street cred # Time served in prison # Appeared to have money # Car # Other women/options
@@rgw1380rwtrue you can find them but most of them aren’t in urbanized cities…. When you consider the fact most Black people in the country live in cities or go to school there and usually take on the systems and culture of city life then the pool for finding and choosing becomes quite small…
@HORIZON Gamining Wherever you find them, they are only interested in the minority group of guys there. Women absolutely pick and choose who needs what, my friend.
@@rgw1380rw I absolutely agree with you, I suppose I was a bit vague I was refering to men looking for women they can build long term, it is my opinion that cities are the worse place to find them based on odds however I will not pretend they don’t exist either. Ultimately women make the overwhelming majority (I think it’s 70-80%) of market choice decisions so I don’t disagree with you mate.
SELFISH!!??? Did she even consider retirement..?? Do you think this man wanna be working all his entire life!? Maybe he was saving up to retire so they both can live comfortably without him having to work!! There's still a reason he said no!! He's not tryna add another bill to the expenses!! Be open minded. Woman can be so SHORT sighted while a good man will always see beyond!! He's not selfish at all especially when she have the privilege to NOT work. That's insane to say!!
Bro it ain't a privilege any more smh. So many divorce courts where woman are saying they sacrificed there career to raise kids. But if you asked why she didn't start back working when the kids were school aged ....you get silence
alot of single moms put alot of pressure on themselves and act like they dont need men and it backfires. then they play the victim nobody tried to be there for her...
Some even let themselves go to the point most men aren't even looking their way. You hear them talking like they shut down the goodie store, but it's obviously not their reality. Their options are extremely limited based on their attitude, physical build/failed looks, plus they can be loud and masculine. Ultimately, they truly want everyone to believe that they still hold some value in the dating market 😂!
Its mainly men who dont want to commit...hence the single mom epidemic and women adapting to having to be strong single women. Men need to accept responsibility for this. Too many men go online acting like men are angels and its the women who dont want to commit.
@@tpoppy9303 F that. Ever thought perhaps the women are not worthy of commitment… The women in our community large seek unsuitable men to bare children and then complain about the outcome. If he ain’t your husband, why are u producing a baby.
Why do people feel that you should always be pushing for more? Is there something wrong with being happy with the life you've built? With being satisfied with your existence? Not saying your shouldn't be ambitious, but why is ambition assigned such a positive view and satisfaction is viewed negatively?
The way women disrespect the men who build their homes, fix their cars, make their food etc is crazy. It's one thing to say I am only chasing guys in the 1%", but to mock and devalue hardworking men who actually make America run is ridiculous. And then they criticize us for going where are hardworking good man is appreciated.
I've literally saw a BW belittling BM that have careers that will easily get them six figures per year because they were sharply dressed. Somehow, they were too old to be keeping themselves sharp, or they were somehow a doodus for whatever reason. One particular time I witnessed this hatred for upstanding BM was a well spoken Colonel in the armed forces that was on a popular game show with his successful family. His wife was a pretty attractive/fit woman who also had rank in the armed forces, plus his sons were both college educated men. The head of a nuclear Black family was a "doofus" to the usual BW that was criticizing him and his family. This same BW didn't have the same energy for BW that are who they always have the laundry list of complaints about ! I guess he wasn't nigga-ish enough to not be spoken about in a negative manner 🤔 ? Although he was very tall, well paid, has plenty status, and was physically fit, there was no appreciation for this man that is doing exactly what many BW claim BM don't do.
I dont mind planning dates. But what i do hate os when i have a date planned and the woman doesn’t want to be at that place. Now she has a attitude because we didn’t go to a place of her desire. Smh these women just be talking to be talking
These women are crazy these days.. The women on the far right thinks her Grandfather had selfish ways when he paid ALL the bills, protected her etc… A good man is not enough for these women and that’s why they’re alone!
The lil girl in the white is childish and knows she was lying 90% of the time. She was arguing just to argue. She is the type you can’t tell no even once. She’s definitely dying alone.
I totally agree with this comment because she is looking at it from an immature aspect and how dare she say he was selfish when he provided for the damn family. And usually logic is not taking into account because if he's a grandfather he most likely was at that point on a fixed income So a car is not a piece of something that you just get and don't brace for depending on your situation. A woman that age should never speak poorly about her generations before that just shows the level of maturity she has. I hope any man that she dates sees what she just said as a warning. If she could speak about all men and especially her grandfather she is not worth the time it takes to even send her a text message
Dude this comment here. I can't tell you how many times I her women call their moms Married Single moms 🤦🏿♂️. Military kids saying they're mom raised them by herslef, but neglect to say how their dads sacrifice since deployed alot was the reason they could live a comfortable life.
There is a major exaggeration as to how bad women have been done. I recall being young and women been playing games with dudes or dating older men. What is a good woman? A woman gets to state her worth when she should be asking him what he likes, wants, or feels.
I'm engaged to an amazing man and I'm the breadwinner. He is the head of our household and it works for us.. it is possible.. I used to think that I didn't need a man.. I was single for 7 years and I can say that he has improved my life soo much!
36:21 "If a man pays for my lifestyle he's controlling" 48:07 "Men need to plan and pay for dates and a woman who can't appreciate that is a fool" This woman's a clown.
You are a clown two things can exist. A man that pays for a lifestyle and be controlling. Then again women as he should be provided for. So men not all weponize it
This title was click bait at its finest. I actually liked the cast you brought out. Definitely a top 5. I don’t expect any woman to fully agree and understand the male side if things but they were very mature in how they conversed and how they made their points. It wasn’t the overused cliches that women use nowadays. Great show.
I really enjoyed this conversation. There were so many great points made and the exchange of different perspectives was handled very tastefully. I wished the conversation lasted longer, maybe these ladies can come during a live stream.
They were all intelligent, educated black women. We're out here and it was rerefreshing to have our side seen and heard from. Women wearing clothes that cover them not jumping around the stage and thank you Jesus!! Not one clapped😂😂😂😂😂
The old lady on the right is selfish, self-centered, and should not become the burden of any man. She needs to stay single, and should prolly get fixed so she can’t accidentally become a terrible mother.
Yeah man i can sense she’s the type of gal that’s only capable of framing what makes a man better by how much benefit we as men give her. i’ll never give into a self serving women that has this mental.. it’ll never be enough for 1 & for 2 it reeks of entitlement.
She said she wanted a husband before a kid (which is respectable) but from listening to her I don't know that she actually wants to be a wife. Wanting the title of marriage and relishing the role of being a wife; 2 totally different things. It's fitting she had the army fatigue pants on bc she definitely running to the disagreements...😂😂😂
There was a black man that went to jail for over paying his child support and spending too much time with his son, there's no excuses for this kind of stuff
Men are more than likely not responding to her because of her attitude and personality. I know a lot of women grew up tough but feminine energy pulls men in more, while masculine energy repels most men. Just listen to how she talks, her mannerisms and gestures. On top of that we have to see the type of dudes she not only attracts, but is attracted to.
A woman who lives with her family is a green flag. Any man who enters her life is being vetted by family. He also is being held accountable for their daughters safety. This sets a good precedent for marriage. In addition it shows strong family values. If anything I’d prefer a woman living this way.
Shut up I had an oversized trench coat on cost more than your whole entire existence carry on peasant . That a high value man paid for something YOUR NOT
Around 28 mins a lot of women stop mentally maturing the moment they start getting excessive attention, which could be anywhere after 13. I've dated 30 year olds that acted like 14 year olds in private settings
Per About 48:00 ; What the lady on the Right doesn’t understand is that a man never truly knows if a woman is HIS. We live in a society where you look and feel real dumb if you putting in that effort for a woman that’s entertaining other men. Very simple.
She capping back in the days dudes use to come home and give their wives the money to manage it. So basically every financial decision was ran through her.
Ayanna did most of the talking, but it was either delusional or selfish. If she thinks a man's success is because of the woman, that man is a Pookie. Women don't build, they move in. And she apparently had a good grandfather. Ayanna doesn't understand the responsibilities of a man taking care of a family.
This the one right here!! I'm 43 and I've been saying this since my mid 20's. I can pay everything but I control all the finances because I'm paying all the bills. If you want a specific lifestyle then we both get the bag
What I've realized is that the talking points women tend to use primarily reside in the context of anecdotes, what ifs, and hypotheticals. The only points they ever argue are "well you do it too" and "I don't do that I'm the exception"
Paying all the bills from day one and chasing her is what a simp would do. It's her job to earn that from the man that she wants. You don't just give that to everyone you date. That guy in the video is wild'n
I'm a 50yr old single women. I was also a single parent of two children for years. I'm currently in love with me better now than I have ever been. So at this moment I'm capable of being in a loving relationship with a man the right way. Never would I selfishly get in a relationship with a man & burden him with all the financial expenses as if I never ever took care of my own expenses myself. I just wanna say I truly enjoyed all of this conversation. I look forward to listening more and if so participating.
Mmmmm imma have to disagree with yall about can you be single and happy. 29 male here, been single for almost 7 years. I've tried dating, even getting into relationships, and I always feel like it isn't worth it honestly. Maybe it's because I'm a super introvert, but there are things about being in a long form relationship that just doesn't work for me. 1. Like with what Ju said, you have to talk with your spouse about purchases and big decisions, but I don't want to have to do that. If I want to do something, I want to be able to just do it. I should be able to do what I want, when I want, without consulting another adult on it. 2. Honestly, I tell people in my life I need like 4 days to myself where no one bothers me, whether it be my girlfriend, my friends, hell even my family. I've realized I just prefer my time with myself. Most of the time, if I spend a couple hours with people, I start getting annoyed and irritated, like I need to be by myself. I have YET to find a women okay with this. I have a very VERY low social battery. Don't get me wrong, it can get lonely at times, or if I want to fuck or have sex, but every time I try and scratch that itch, I end up regretting it after a couple weeks lol.
I told my wife we both have to be capable of giving 100%. So if something happens to either of us the burden can be handled effortlessly. That means one month i may be 90%....another 45% and etc. But the end goal was for us to be so fluid with our financial situation that neither one of us was stressed out. The idea was .... apart we paid 100% each... so coming together why should one person be overburdened. First thing we did was look at our separate bills and saw which should be paid off, closed, or combined.
A lot of women don’t like being picked up anymore for security reasons (understandably). My only thing about planning a date is, if I do all of this are you going to show up or flake and waste my time? Are you going to enjoy it or complain that it’s not your favorite 5 star restaurant or $500+ date?
The one in the middle don’t need to be calling no one ugly and the one to our left shouldn’t be laughing either. The one on the far right is saving the crew😂
I really enjoy when y’all have calm conversations. I don’t know if it’s age but when y’all have ladies that are Uber loud and cutting the others off to make their points it just makes me not wanna watch the whole video(I still do) I know y’all can’t control that but I just love mature calm conversations. Like we grown enough to stay calm while disagreeing. P.S I realized as a woman I don’t understand women smh and it gets worse every year.
Most successful men do not become successful because of a woman. They become successful because their hard work and ambition. Like Eli said maybe women are elevating the Pookies but men who are determined to be great will be great regardless of who their woman is.
I like these group of WOMEN, they conversation skills is impeccable. Nobody yelling over nobody, they make sense when they speak... S/o 👏🏾 to those ladies
I feel like most women don't understand how unreasonable they sound until told, the most she should expect is good company on the first 1 or 2 dates, especially if he's paying, where does this expectancy come from, who's to say if he wants a 2nd date?
For the third topic: Financial support, emotional support, friendship, partnership, companionship, connection, intimacy...all of the things i would want to contribute to my relationship.
This is the problem ratchet thinking!!! So, arguing exceptions like strippers that don’t sell sex aka dance through a glass window don’t do any lap dances etc etc. what percentage of “dancers” do this? Not necessarily means yes sometimes but don’t judge me
Saying bring your friends is a low down move. Thats disingenuous and immature to use one person to get a chance to see if one of her friends is more compatible. You’re also playing with with their friendships.
You Can Be Married & Still Be The Only One Doing Everything Just Because It’s A Two Parent Household Doesn’t Mean Y’all Are Doing It Equally Or Taking Turns, Being A Single Mom/Dad Doesn’t Mean You Can’t Be A Gentle Parent Either
There is nothing wrong with 50/50 dating and marriages, it helps keep both individuals safe should a divorce or separation occur (50% of marriages fail)... Too many men are left face down in the dirt because they use all their money to pay for everything while the woman mostly got to do what she wanted with hers (secretly save) then disappear like she owes nothing ... But women will say they want EQUAL treatment... Great episode keep up the good work... 💯
@@aquarius-woman5364 🙂good question... For the same reason women exaggerate they are independent yet still want a man to pay for everything....lol Because those wives are possibly demanding more than what the husband is providing instead of being content, so the husband is like well I'm doing my best and happy but if you want more money in the house how about you find a job and share the bills with me, if we are supposed to be a team since women have been striving for financial Independence / stability for themselves.... This could get very deep and long if we're going to have this conversation so I'll stop there for now...🙂
Its weird. You will say you hold the wrong men down. Then she ask " What do you mean by holding down" As if she doesn't know or getting to the bag. All phrases they use but them act like they don't know what it is when you hold them accountable.
And @45:37 she told us her age (Which she didn’t want to do earlier) and didn’t even know it smh. She said she used to not even know where she was going on a date and was excited about the surprise. That’s b/c your value was in your youth you messed that up! Now you’re older and Jaded with all these feminist thoughts so those guys back in the day don’t approach you anymore due to them seeing you as a headache..
Getting to the bag is when you set a financial level of comfort for yourself and can maintain that level, and everything over that level is put into your savings.
It is not a red flag Most family live in the same house for years some get married and move out then. “Still Living with yo momma” is the stupid thing fr
Girl to the right is hurt af. Additionally, every single scenario she stated was a wild exception to the rule for the sake of disagreeing with whatever she saw fit. There was a lot to unpack with her, not enough time for it all.
In most cultures, Women do not move out until marriage so most women leave home later in life, and there are those occasion that women are the care takers of their elderly parents. So it depends.
Asking where you wanna go eat and asking what you like are two different things. All you have to do is ask questions find out what she likes and plan from there.
In my opinion that should only be done when the woman show interest…also most people be in carnal relationship and don’t try to actively key word actively( so not just the person tell you thing without you asking direct and pertinent questions to get to know them ) trying to get to know their partners and most of the time it’s the man doing because they’re supposed to court the women .
CHEAT CODE: Never ask a woman what they like. Tell her what you like and they'll definitely tell you how they feel about it. So if you two are truly compatible you won't have to try to impress her. She'll already be impressed and you both can move forward with the best intentions. At least that's been my experience. 💯
@@kairayrocket7442 definitely don't do shit for her if she ain't showing that she feeling you. It's true men search for women's interests more because we are doing the courting women show more interests the more she feel you.
This dude is advocating Simphood...... Why do women want equality right up until the mortgage is due.....What women don't understand is the less you bring to the table the more expendable you become......Why be with you when he can have a housekeeper for half the price????
Ultimately their mothers told them to be “strong and independent” when they themselves didn’t want to be, did it in a much easier socioeconomic arena, and knew men just wasn’t checking for them. I feel bad for the daughters who got sold a fantasy they truly didn’t want or deserve..
The fantasy is a woman waiting for some man to love, cherish and take care of her. Most men dont have the mentality of traditional men so women HAVE to be independent. Look at the huge amount of single moms out here. The men clearly are not reliable for security.
His budget is not separate from yours. Money is a tool and we do not live together as individuals together together means just that together. Cars come with more than just paying a note if that is even the case. Who will have to maintain that car once it’s purchased. Better yet who will be expected to maintain that car correctly?
Judge Lynn Toler was (probably still is) the bread winner in her marriage. Then again she's not an average woman. She's older and has a different mindset when it comes to being committed to another.
Yeah, I'm definitely one of the guys saying I don't need a female to cook and clean for me. I'm also the one advocating for an as 50/50 as possible relationship including finances, house maintenence and if/when ever I have any, child care. I was raised to both learn how to work together with people and accept their help and opinions as well as how to do for myself but most importantly, how to learn to do for myself if I encounter a new situation. That's why despite hearing so often that 50/50 relationships don't work, I have no problem advocating for them because the issues that seem to worry a female in regards to being with a man who wants that (it just being all talk and no walk and being unwilling to step up in child care, etc) are non existent with me and I don't just say the words, I act it out by actually doing all those things and even liking some of them. I like cooking most times and even when I don't, I still do because I hate seeming irresponsible and incapable. If a males job is to be a leader, how can you lead if you don't at least have some idea and some capability of doing all that needs to be done. Even if you chose not to do everything, I think a man should AT LEAST know how to do everything. Only thing I can't do is birth a child (which even technology is working it's way towards in vitro being a more affordable thing, though that still requires a female egg and sperm aka more than just me. Of course that's also not as fun so... lol) however I'm more than willing to take on full responsibility of everything during the time my woman is on bed rest both before and after pregnancy because she's being responsible for her part so I've gotta do mine and really these "parts" are all for the whole so I don't see the issue.
When me and my husband worked, he paid the big bills like house, cars, car ins. All the ins, health, life and all that. I paid the utilities. He was a truck driver so naturally he paid the bulk.
