@@sergiomacias5145 My tibias are long af. I'm already shaped like Shrek, kek. Edit: I'm not kidding, from my lateral malleolus (distal end of the fibula) to below lateral epicondyle of my femur leveling right below my patella is longer than from my patella to the inferior border of my iliac crest which is above my acetabulum. also my right femur is shorter than my left femur (Probably a discrepancy from childhood riddled with serious infections)
Do you think gain 3cm on the Tibia and 4 for the Femur is a good option ? because I have the money and Aesthetic result is important for me. And does it gives complications ?
Yeah but you could probably go as high as 6cm on femurs and 4cm on tibia if no issues arose while you lengthened, you'd get more length and have great proportions overall too
@Cyborg4Life hi Vic, do you have any recommendations for places in CA to get the precice 2 method done? Also, what are your thoughts on getting the procedure done in Turkey?
My choice would be tibia. There is only one muscle crossing the knee joint, which should make stretching easier. The lever for sports activities (squatting!) would improve. Having a longer tibia helps with sitting on chairs, public benches etc. because finally, you reach the floor! 😉 My only worry though is that there would be a huge bone gap directly beneath the skin. Isn't that area especially vulnerable then? Hitting your shin during that phase could mean tearing a hole into your lower leg, couldn't it? 😲
@@Cyborg4Life Sure. Over weeks and months. If I understood the procedure correctly, first the limbs get stretched by a certain technique. If the desired length has been achieved, the bone gets time to heal (closing the 8 cm gap). During that time the patient is literally walking on sticks, isn't he? And those can be felt and seen through the thin layer of skin over the shins, I imagine. That's creepy.
@@kasimirb5155 No, because you are lengthening 1mm per day. You usually adjust it I believe 4 times a day .25mm (which is nothing basically), then your body slowly builds more bone, so that by the next day, you've filled in that 1 mm with bone and are starting the process anew. By the end, you have to let it fully close and then really heal (it takes time for the bone to get denser and stronger). So you're not really 100% but you're not walking on sticks either lol
The proportions issue is just overblown. Even among regular people, there's a HUGE spectrum of proportions. Not everyone is the Vitruvian man in the general population. Far form it.
Are there chances of only getting 1-2 inches with LL of the Femur and not the full 3? That's my fear. Not going to pay 80k+ unless I get the full length,.
Hey Victor, I’m planning to do tibia lengthening to correct my bow legs as well, but recently I read a study (“The Association of Tibia Femur Ratio and Degenerative Disease of the Spine, Hips, and Knees”) pointing the higher risks of knee arthrisis if the tibia / femur ratio is too high (average : 0.80). As my tibia / femur ratio is already slightly above the average (0.81), I’m a bit worried about those potential risks if I decide to lengthen my tibias. What do you think ? Have you ever heard about such risks ?
Nice find. I do think that the ratio is an interesting but I don't know how much it would affect a real patient unless they're involved in high level sports and lifting due to biomechanical stressors on the joint. Basically I think it would be an overall improvement after your bowlegged correction regardless
Tibia is 20% shorter.. But got athletes like Usain Bolt. His is actually over 12% longer than the femur...hence his speed. Can't see him complaining. Perhaps it would be a different story if he hit 50 or 60 years old..only time would tell
Hey man, do you know if there is any decent clinics in the UK? I spoke to the surgeon who you interviewed a few years ago but he doesn't do the surgery anymore due to an issue with the nail corroding or something...? Any help much appreciated!
Hey Victor! Where did you have your limb lengthening procedure done? Who is the doctor that you had in the procedure? If that hospital has a link/social media/website, can you please share? It would be truly helpful. I love your videos, and I also want to have limb lengthening surgery done too.❤.
Because of how I'm used to my appearance, I'm not sure how much I should lengthen my femur. The tibia is 39.5 and the femur is 40.5( there is a lot of thinking, I can't imagine what it will look like).
hey Rob in your opinion would you get LL done by Dr. Becker with the Betzbone or by Dr.Kohne? I kinda dont trust Becker and the whole Betz Institute, what do you think?
I had my femur shortened 6 months ago and the doctor rotated the whole thing around 30 degrees inward and did rehab and everything walking pigeon toed. only to do the same surgery to turn into back out 2 weeks ago. Also I did not get the full shortening I was promised of 1.5 cm for a leg length discrepancy of 1.9 between both the femur(1.3) and tibia(0.6) lengths together because when he put the rod there was about a 0.4 cm gap between the bones. This was done in kaiser so I thought the results would be pristine but I guess I was wrong. What could have resulted in a 4 mm leg length difference is now 8 or more mm difference. Might not sound like a lot but the closer to 0 the better plus the doctor not holding himself accountable for the mistake he did tried to brush it off when he rotated it inward saying it would straighten itself out during physical therapy but I had to keep on bringing it up because no joke that inward rotation on the femur affects mental health and physical well-being altogether.
What are your thoughts on distraction osteogenesis of the clavicle? There are only a couple of studies on it. Dr Epply does clavicle lengthening but he moves it 15-20mm in the same surgery.
@Cyborg4Life hey victor, im currently 19 yrs old and my height is at 169.5 cm, is there still time for me to grow a bit more and have the surgery done in my early 20s(23-25) or should i get my surgery done now? and is there a chance to grow 10 more cm with a femurs surgery?
Well it would be best to ensure you're done growing because if you are still growing it wouldn't make sense to get limb lengthening done. Also it's very risky to do 10 centimeters on the femurs alone.
Hey Victor....Hope you are doing great. I have read in a paper that there is a electronic nail prototype that lengthens about 1/10 of the bone cell length making it far more effective. Have you come across it and do you think it has potential....
Barbell squats would be affected - more length more impact. But the aesthetics aren't noticeable that much with normal clothes and shorts that come to top of knee
@@Cyborg4Life in the video you say aesthetics wise it’s better to get tibia lengthened. Wouldn’t lengthening your femurs also make you look better in that you were taller than you were before which is innately more aesthetically pleasing
Hey bro. I got a tibia lengthening surgery. But 1 cm of the knee below was fracture and then grafted. Now it is again broken... More over tibia lengthening is processing a bit callus forming upper the ankle. But still the broken bone about the knee still not United. What makes it recover? Doctor said weight bearing with illizrov if not you required graft again! Give your best advice dear ORTHO masculine 👍
@@Cyborg4Life It's a wonder you predict I'm having knee deformity without diagnose my x-ray. Whole leg looks like completely bad knock knee. Does it change after removing illizrov and constuct damaged legaments.
Im 18 years old, 175 cm (5 ft 9) and i am saving up at the moment for the surgery i want to get my Femur bones lengthened 3 inches making my height 183 cm (6 feet) i was wondering if i should wait till Im older to get the surgery like after i am 25 or a bit earlier than that (23) and if its even worth it due to having a 5,9 frame and if i should get less length?
That's a hard one. I mean it really depends what you want to do - There has been peopel who have and have not done it at that height. But you can wait till it's a good time or whenever you can take the time off. But also ability to select a very good surgeon
I don’t know man. Most people I saw or watched in videos where they get this surgery are on average from 5’3 to 5’7 tall… which is short for western standards.
Could you please try to interview to Dr. Christian Huamani from Arthromeds Clinic in Peru, he is offering the surgery in $18k USD, he developed his own device fixator patented as HMC.
Interesting. But I think he seems to be a shoulder and knee specialty ortho. I prefer to focus on lower limb specialists especially in LL and deformity recon
Escuche de el en Arthomedics, estudio y se ejerció en el Loaiza si no me equivoco. Yo diría que no es una mala opción pero creo que en Turquía y Europa hay mejores opciones. En Grecia y Turquía es donde es más barato y de buena calidad en toda Europa. Escuchaste del Dr. Yukssel Yurttas? Si es así dame a saber si lo conoces o no
Thank you for still making videos, im 6 foot 18 years old however im still the shortest in my friend group, so i hope to one day do ll surgery and get to 6.5
@edxander7169 very funny, but seriously i am the shortest one in my friend group and i look funny walking next to my best friend who is 6.7, also im not from the US so maybe that is why it is hard for you to imagine me being short at 6 foot
@@kiwi_caocao Oh man, same here! The new generation is easily 6'7 on average and probably around 6'2 for women these days! 6'0 is absolutely tiny now and isn't enough anymore! Today I'm frequently mogged by 13 year old boys who easily clear 6'2 now. In fact, I once got jumped by a squad of 12 year old gang members for simply existing as a poor 6'0 guy. It's very unfortunate out here. On tinder women call me little baby boy for being under 6'10. Not only that, my ex girlfriend cheated on me because I stopped wearing my little lifts whenever we went out together. She told me to "be myself". I guess being yourself isn't enough these days. It's 6'7 or go home and die in a pit.
@vedatsakman7272 and that’s worth risking your body’s natural function? You’re putting yourself at risk for chronic conditions that will haunt you for the rest of your life. It’s a stupid surgery that everyone should avoid
It is said that the max lengthening is 15cm. But what if I lengthened both my femur and tibia by 12.5cm for a total of 25cm increased height. I’m 163cm and I want to be over 185cm. My legs are very muscular which makes me look shorter. Though I always feel like my legs are actually just plain short because when I stand on tip toe, it looks natural. When I don’t, it looks like I photoshopped my legs to be shorter and it looks kinda unnatural. 🤨 🦵 🦵
