@@hippopotomostrosesquippeda5804 he was always like that the asier turned him into a vicious killer There is even a saying that even the purest of a person can become a monster if you push them hard enough or in this case a good dog He was evil because when odin saw that fenrir will kill him in ragnarok he "tries" to stop that from happening by tying him in unbreakable chains But what he didnt know he actually caused fenrir to become a monster he always acted like a golden retriever or something in norse myth but its his harsh life which made him into a killing machine
Likely he retained what was left of the other dogs powers. Garm was insane and crazed. Fenir inherited his powers and thus you have the myth and danger of Fenir. Except Fenir is the best of dogs.
@@stiven355 Fenir in myth was a giant oversized dog. In the game yes he is a wolf but garn was a dog of unknown description. When Fenirs soul took over Garns body which didnt have a soul of mind, He took over the body of a dog. Thus Fenir became the giant dog Fenir.
How much has Kratos changed? For once, he’s *not* trying to destroy a giant creature. He’s petting it because it is, above all else, his son’s goodliest Doggo.
‘He’s still eating, he still wants to live’ ‘He is dying’ Love the implications of that. Yes, he wants to live. For Atreus. That’s what hurt the good boy most. He was simply fighting the losing battle for his family. Forcing himself to eat for them, and still failing. Gonna go finish the video now, but damn, even at the start, this hurts. Good boy, Fenrir.
@@hidan407 old age I’m pretty sure. That’s when animals stop eating as they need to. Notice he was extremely reluctant to eat that food, and then failed to. He was trying though. Trying for his favorite person. That’s what makes it all so sad.
The crawl Fenrir does up to Atreus (4:52) and Kratos is too darn adorable. My husky does the same exact thing for attention and when Fenny did that, my heart turned so warm. Such a good wolfo.
My dog does a similar belly crawl when he stretches, only his back legs are stretched out behind him, and he's just pulling himself along with his front paws.
@@Ben_Kimber same here!! my pup likes to scoot across the ground whenever he gets called by only using his front legs. fun fact, it’s called splooting! (the term for when they stretch their lil back legs out behind them). small dogs tend to do it more often than larger dogs, but they all do it to be comfortable.
Probably one of the best versions of Fenrir. In the original myth Tyr raised him up, and he was a good boy. Odin was afraid of what he would do as he would not stop growing. So he made special chains to jail him and had Tyr distract him. Causing him to loose his arm.
@@gothmogonslaught6851 That and Odin Whispering something in Tyr's ear when he died, so Odin literally caused ragnarok because of paranoia, even when trying to change fate he played right onto their hands still.
@@redbullrave8951 Mate even if this doesn't win Game Of The Year, there are still so many awards it's in the running for that it may as well be GoTY 2.
For all the people saying this reminds them of when their dog passed away, remember something that was said by Faye in this game: the culmination of love is grief. It’s natural. Edit: I’m glad everyone was comforted by this, one of my dogs suddenly passed after I posted this, and 2 others are on their way out soon. I hope I can be happy for the years had not the years lost.
Gone through it twice with dogs, once with cats. Lots of crying. Shit, I cried at the start of this game, then went to go pet my 3rd dog who was like, "whats wrong, Im taking a nap."
@@JnEricsonxit felt so realistic, Atreus tricking himslef into thinking the dog wanted to live and that he was still eating, when they’re sick you notice any small amount of improvement from the previous day, sometimes even tricking yourself into thinking you see improvements all in hopes they’ll survive the sickness.
4:45 - 4:59 love that slow and small lurk Fenrir did while Kratos and Atreus were talking, he's like "What are you two talking about? Count me in please"
Death scene literally had me crying for several minutes. Made me remember when we had to bury our dog, he was also trying to eat before he passes so we thought he'd be okay. Makes a man teary.
Yeah it reminded me of when I went with my sister to have her cat put down, I cried like a baby that day. So the fenrir scene hit really close to home, and I cried like a baby again.
Same, I lost a dog recently and I was with him right before he was put down. Its a painful think to do, more than cutting yourself, getting punched scraping your knee, its a pain we cant just "walk off"
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 I mean if I would hear from some Lady that a 30 ft talk Wolf is gonna kill me, then I would probably be not nice to Wolfs too 😂😂😂😂 But we know how that turned out oof
@@croluka2798 the proper attitude out of Odin would have been to befriend any wolf above certain sizes making it never want to do it in the first place
Fenrir; "TREMBLE AESIR, FOR I AM FENRIR, WORLD EATER, DESTROYER OF LIFE, BANE OF THE ALL FATHER, DOOM OF ASGARD..." Kratos; "SIT." Fenrir; "Okay pappa..."
The detail change of Garm's fur pattern to Fenrir's is impeccably good, now I'm wondering what Fenrir thinks since Atreus can feel and listen to animals.
The moment Garm's Husk Eyes turned to Fen's was already good enough. *_But when they made sure not to forget that white patch?_* *CHEF'S KISS.* Very minor detail most don't really care about. But it's the minor details like that make it better.
I love how this is technically a pretty myth accurate version of Fenrir, since originally he wasn't even a bad guy. He was good friends with Tyr and liked living with the Aesir, it only went wrong because Odin was scared of Fenrir's power as he continued to grow bigger and bigger. Once again, Odin fulfilled Ragnarok by trying to stop it.
Correct. The Eddas go out of their way to show you how the faults of the gods (Odin's paranoia, Thor's anger, Loki's mischievousness, Frigg's overprotectiveness, etc) will end up causing the downfall they were trying so hard to prevent. For example, the way Odin treats Jormungand and Fenrir in particular enrages Loki, who then gets revenge by manipulating Hod into slaying Balder (with the mistletoe arrow referenced in GOW '18}. Odin and Frigg consider this a grave betrayal, and bound Loki to a rock underneath a spitting serpent. Ragnarok will happen when Loki and his children will break free of their bonds and lead the jotun and the draugr to fight the Aesir, Vanir, elves, and Einherjar on the battle plain of Vigrid, where most will be slain, and the world submerged in ice and fire before all is reborn.
It gets worse when you realize that the only reason Fenrir agreed to be chained with the special bonds at all was because he trusted Tyr. To get him to agree to it, Tyr told him that if they do not release him that Fenrir could have his arm. They did not realease him, and Tyr kept his word.
@@RaptorJesus it's worse than that, it was Odin's idea, and Fenrir demanded Odin put his arm in his mouth. The Allfather refused and he ordered Tyr to take his place.
@@fiddlesticks7245 If memory serves, I think that specific detail depends on the version of the myth you're reading. Sometimes it it specifically Odin who instigates it, others it's the AEsir as a group(excluding Tyr, due to him seeming to consistently having a good relationship with Fenrir).
@@RaptorJesus The entire theme of Norse mythology is that Odin's efforts to stop Ragnarok are what directly leads to it occurring, he's powerless to stop the fate the Norns have wove yet he tries anyways. Also Loki retaliates against Odin specifically when he arranges Baldur's death. It simply doesn't make sense that Odin wasn't the primary instigator of Fenrir's binding
You know dog do this when there is a tension within the pack..they creep in and show the sign of obidience. In this case Kratos try to ask Atreus if there are something he hide.
I lost my dog a couple months ago, and Fenrir belly-crawling with the outstretched paws, and soft eyes just gives me all the warm fuzzies I needed today.
I hope you find the peace you deserve. Its a very difficult thing to endure. I lost my best friend 2 years ago. I miss him dearly, but it gets easier. Take care 😊
Garm: The blood-stained protector of Hel, one of the most dangerous creatures in the nine-realms capable of destruction on a multiversal scale. Fenrir: The goodest boy who deserves all the pets.
It feels absurd for us Old series fans to see kratos amazed by such things like bro literally ripped Hades soul outta his body but if his son transfers his pet's soul into a giant wolf that's something that amazes him? Like that's just weird.
@@AaronBiswasits the point of the Nordic Saga Kratos isnt a Killing Machine, he can sit and…contemplate things, thinks that he just assumed before and know can sit and ask “¿¡How in the actual f*ck this even works!?”
@@AaronBiswasNah but like transfering souls must be different despite being magic. Kratos’ land had a different sort of magic and probably not soul transfer
I'll be honest I originally planned on rating this gave a 5/10 just because of the fact our precious Fen died at the start. And I planned on doing that until Fen returned and when it happend I was thinking: nvm this game is a 10/10 (so yeah if not for that I would have given this game a 5/10)
@@justincummings5022I assume she will give birth to her the usual way. And the Hel Bird did say they needed a replacement for all the problems Atreus called.
I did the same with my Lily when she passed even though we had only 4 years together. So sorry for your loss, friend. Your Luca was blessed to have someone who loved him as much as you ❤ I hope whoever wrote this scene does not know that same pain from experience.
When my 11 y.o. German Shephard passed about 5 years ago I thought that pain will be lesser, but it isnt. Now I have black Lab, he is great and fun and I love him, but I never truely forgot my good boi. He was special, sometimes I called him a werewolf because he was so long-haired. Miss you buddy.
I love how fen throws a fucking tree at atreus hoping that he could play fetch. Like, I think kratos and maybe thrud may be the only people who could actually play fetch or play rough like dogs do and not get ripped to pieces in the process.
Right at the beginning of meeting Fen and him slowly dying, those words Atreus said were my last words to my pupper Perseus (Percy) before I had to put him down. My potato was sick and he wasn't going to make it. I cried for several minutes during that scene...only for my day to get better as best doggo came back! It made me appreciate the story and devs a lot more lol Best game! RIP Percy, you were dumb as a sack of potatoes...but you were my potato.
One thing I noticed about Fenrir is that after Atreus leaves, he never really showed his smiling side as much. He seemed really depressed and quiet, when he knew Atreus was going to leave and Fenrir himself has to move to Angrboda. And when he does show his happy side, it's only when Atreus is around. This shows so much of how Atreus and Fenrir grew together as boys. They both love each other so much and Fenrir just wanted to spend as much time with Atreus when he was revived by Atreus, but since Atreus can't, due to a prophecy that he must find other giants, Fenrir seemed really sad and quiet about it.
This was an interesting play on the origin of Fenrir. I don't know the original myth of Loki and Angrboda giving birth to him, Jormungandr, and Hel, but this version of a normal, trained, and loved companion becoming a Giant is actually lovable
Let me give you the abridged version. Loki's triplets were split up at birth. Jormungand was thrown into Midgard where he grew large enough to encircle the entire world. The half-undead Hel went to Helheim, becoming the goddess of the dishonorable dead. Fenrir was still in Asgard, but Odin feared the wolf as he grew up. The overgrown dog was able to break any chain put on him. Eventually, the dwarves were told by Odin to create the chain Gleipnir, and Odin tried to trick Fenrir into willingly letting Gleipnir tie him up. Expecting treachery, Fenrir agreed to the condition that one of the gods would put their hand in his mouth. Tyr, being the bravest, volunteered. When the wolf was unable to break his chain, he bit off Tyr's hand. Yeah I definitely prefer good boi Fenrir.
@@matthewclokus7311 Also the mythological Fenrir grows so large that when he eventually breaks free, his jaws rend the sky and the earth. Let that sink in...
I am crying, I am so in love with Fenrir and all his little wolf-dog details! Like when he's slowly getting closer as they talk, Fen keeps his eyes on Kratos cause he's the pack leader, and then when Atreus is leaving for Asgard, Fen is wagging his tail in the back, just happy to see him. I adore him so much!!!❤️❤️❤️
I love how much Fenrir “talks”. I have two Shepard/Huskies and one of them is a talker. The fact the devs took the time to give him so much personality and how excited he gets when he sees his family just gives me the warm and fuzzies.
@@Cptsuccess OG Norse myth Fenrir does Ragnarok because of how abused and mistreated he was by Odin. If Odin did jack all Ragnarok would likely never happen.
*Fenrir in Nordic Legends:* The Monster Wolf. The Great Devourer. Odin's Bane. The Coming Storm. Death, Destroyer of Worlds. *Fenrir in GoWRagnarok:* Good Boi
The only reason he's that way in the myth is because the aesir imprisoned and betrayed him. And he spent a LONG time chained up(and possibly had a sword stabbed through his jaws), so he might be a little insane by the time Ragnarok hits
@@wardeng9 His spirit has been in Atreaus' knife since the start of the game, including the time he first met her so it's possible he was aware of everything going on and thus was able to recognize her.
@@wardeng9 adding on to what the other commentors said, dogs are able to detect hostility as well. My dog was able to differentiate between hostile and friendly people
Me when I saw Fenrir: "Why can't we pet the doggo?" Random Chatter: "You can pet the doggo later." Me finally sees this: "YESSSS! YOU CAN PET THE HUGE DOGGO!"
*HE IS SO FLUFFY AND ADORABLE. HE'S HUGGABLE TOO. I WAS SO GLAD WHEN KRATOS SAID "SIT" TO HIM, AND HE FOLLOWED. WHAT AN OBEDIENT BOY. HE DESERVES ALL THE LOVE, PETS, AND TREATS FROM THE NINE REALMS AND BEYOND. BEST BOY OF THE YEAR.* ✨💖🐺💖✨
4:48 I love how he did the commando crawl. My dog does this all the time, and you just can't get him in trouble, even if he's gotten off his bed. What a funny detail!
Considering that in the Norse myths Fenrir is fated to kill Odin, I was expecting him to play a bigger part in Ragnarok after they set him up like that. Would have been pretty badass to fght alongside a giant realm-tearing wolf.
Mimir mentions that there are four parts to a soul: form, mind, direction and luck. When Atreus accidentally pulled Fenrir's soul to his knife, only one of them went to the knife. The other three continued on, prolly in Helheim or maybe the Light in Alfheim (I forgot how death works in the in-game universe). I wonder if the three missing parts of Fenrir's soul were compensated by Garm's own when Atreus transferred Fenrir's into Garm. I wonder if the one part that remained of Fenrir's soul was the mind. That'd would make logical sense, since Fenrir did in fact overtake Garm's consciousness. With that in mind (heh), Fenrir is pretty much riding on Garm's form, direction and luck. Which makes even more sense, since Fenrir has all access to Garm's extra-dimensional abilities.
Yes. The devs really did their research here. The Norse did not believe in the concept of an indivisible soul like Christians do. Form, or "hamr", is basically what we physically see. Many gods, such as Odin, are able to change their hamr into various animal shapes, such as eagles or bears. Mind, or "hugr", is our consciousness. When Odin sends out his ravens, he is literally sending out manifestations of his mind to astral travel. This is a key component of shamanistic practices, especially seidr. Direction is "fylgja". Your direction usually takes the form of an animal familiar in dreams, and it's basically your "gut instinct" or your moral compass. And finally, luck, or "hamingja" Now, luck here isn't what we think of luck today, which is more a synonym for random chance. Luck in the heathen worldview means what spiritual and genetic traits and desires you've inherited from your ancestors. For example, if your family has a history of military service, chances are you will be unconsciously drawn to it as well.
@@ladygrey7425 Ohh so that explains why garm still had the desire to be free, and why atreus could still read his thought. I was wondering about that 🤔 how could you desire something with no soul? Well if you had no Christian style soul, you couldn't
i spent a good chunk of time in the game always going back to the wolves and Fennrir's kennel hoping for an interaction, when you could pet Fenrir and Kratos saying good boy i genuinely teared up
Damn it... the feels. I lost my dog years ago, haven't had it in my heart to get another because it would feel like a betrayal, you know? But watching videos like these, I miss my good boy.
after the first 15 minutes of this game, his death made me uncontrollably cry. now that i know he comes back, kicks ass in Ragnarok, and is pretty much living the good life after all that AND YOU CAN PET HIM makes me feel sooooo damn much better inside!
I find it kind of funny how Fenrir kind of already existed before GOW Ragnarok in the form of Hrotvinir. In one of Mimir's tales, he mentions that Hrotvinir is Skoll and Hati's father. In fact, the wiki states that Hrotvinir is another name for Fenrir himself.
I think in the game, Hrodvitnir is a different wolf giant to Fenrir, since Fenrir can still be seen after ragnarok, while the younger jorm was seen sent back in time.
10:26 That alone is GOTY material. When I first saw the first 6 seconds of the giant dog model, I immidietly said "This looks infinitely better than Last Guardian's beast." These devs are insanely talented. My god it looked like it took 3 years to perfect every single polygon.
This is a liberty in mythology I have zero problems with to let slide. This was a great idea, and the person who thought it up deserves a bloody raise!
At first I thought you were mistaking Skoll with Fenrir, but I looked it up and there actually is a version of the myth of Ragnarok where it's Fenrir who eats the sun instead of Skoll. This version is relatively obscure because the Skoll and Hati version being more popular and well-known.
Idc if I spoiled it for myself, this is the happiest spoiler I have ever received Made me weep actual tears of joy to see him alive and being so DAMN CUTE
A week before I played this, my 19 year old cat passed. Fenrir's death in the beginning really hit home for me and made me cry. They did a good job of capturing the emotion of the moment you have to decide to let your beloved pet go. Still chokes me up. I loved that Fenrir was able to come back. Ugh such a great game 💗
I like how the developers were able to make it so that Atreus or Loki isn’t the father of jormungandr and fenrir unlike the mythology but still had him play a large part of his life like for example they made it so that Atreus created the world snake and have fenrir as Atreus’s pet
As absolutely heartbreaking as Fenrir's death is, his resurrection in Garm's body is even more so. Through the magic of imagination (and also literal magic in the lore's case), Atreus can bring his pet back from the dead. We don't have the same luxury in our world, making it all the more heartbreaking for me, because I've cared for more pets over the years than I can fully remember and I can't begin to stress how much I would give up to see them again
As someone who has a large doggo The scene where after being put into Garm's body where fen, lying down, slowly crawls forward with his front legs and just lays his head to the side near Atreus... it's fucking peak goodest boy energy.
