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Fender Tone Master Twin Reverb Amp | I knew this day would come. Can you tell the difference?! 

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With the rise of powerful DSP digital processing the guitar amp landscape has continued to change with new digital models that are becoming increasingly better. Products from the likes of Kemper, Helix, Boss and Fractal have sought to use these powerful DSP processors to try and faithfully recreate famous amps and cabinets all in one device. With the new Tone Master amps from Fender it is clear that Fender has gone down a different path. The trouble with many of those powerful systems it that emulation of cabs in a real world environment will never full replace the actual cabinet. The air that is moved by a 1x12 close back cabinet with a Celestion speaker is different from the air moved by a 2x12 open back with Jensen speakers. Virtualization can only accomplish so much. So, Fender has decided to take ALL of that immense processing power that is available and instead of making a do-it-all modeling amp, Fender has digitally recreated the beloved Twin and Deluxe in the appropriate cabinet with the same controls but in a light weight package with powerful new features and NO TUBES! Powerful impulse response direct out is available on the back. Perhaps the best feature? Dime the twin and attentuate it down to "5-watts" to enjoy the glorious sound of a cranked twin without the deafness that usually follows. The digital spring reverb will fool even the most die-hard tube amp aficionado. In fact the tube reverb has alone has more processing power than the whole of a Mustang GT 100. To see how the new Tone Master Twin stacks up in the real world Chris McKee paired it with a Tube Fender Deluxe Reverb, matched the settings and ran through an A/B switch. Can you tell the difference?
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@cgreg129
@cgreg129 4 года назад
I have one, used in gigs and it blows any other amp away. The attenuation feature is amazing. You can fine tune a sound depending on the room. Worth every penny
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 года назад
Agreed!
@richjohn2497
@richjohn2497 3 года назад
Stop it guys!!! I am too close to getting one of these ..... ;)
@brandonf5432
@brandonf5432 3 года назад
can this get quiet enough to play at tv level volumes in an apartment?
@judgegroovyman
@judgegroovyman 3 года назад
@@brandonf5432 yes maybe: at 20:45 in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eoKs-X7I6zs.html&feature=share they turn the amp down and it sounds good and they are talking over it and their decibel meter registers 70-75db which is less than a loud tv. however the dB meter isn’t perfect and isn’t right at the speaker so in my experience (and my apartment) even that volume is too loud.
@dehumm9619
@dehumm9619 2 года назад
@@judgegroovyman deluxe reverb version would be better fit for apartment
@searching4the
@searching4the 4 года назад
I sat down and played one today! I'm sold. Its very versatile and sounds like every twin I've ever played through.
@IJIIKY9192
@IJIIKY9192 4 года назад
Folks are gonna argue until the end of time about this. For me though this is more then good enough🤷‍♂️
@siitan83
@siitan83 21 день назад
yes... I agree with fender! Its the real deal!
@harryharris1619
@harryharris1619 3 года назад
On this particular demo I found the Tone Master more fuller sounding on the chordal stuff and almost identical on the single note playing. For $500 less and less the weight and tubes, would not be a difficult decision for me.
@peopledonotexist
@peopledonotexist 2 года назад
this is an important part too, each tube amp will sound slightly different and will change with age as well. the tone master will not! you will have the same sound continuously. that’s amazing.
@MagneticConfinement
@MagneticConfinement 3 года назад
Awesome. Thanks for making the comparison. They both sound great.
@whatwouldhousedo5136
@whatwouldhousedo5136 4 года назад
I'm now on the side of solid state- I was a tube snob my whole life, but the technology is now so incredible. I also started thinking: "would any regular audience member care or be able to tell if I was using modelling or solid state?" Given that bands like Metallica now tour with profiling instead of Boogie or Marshall stacks, the answer is NO. I sold my $4,000 Kingsley and bought a Katana and it's killer (yes, I know this is a Fender review- my point is regarding tube snobbery). The only people who care if it's tubes are guitar players- and I'm not particularly concerned with impressing other guitar players. My tone is perfectly fine. Will I ever buy a tube amp again? Sure, but mostly just because I like gear; solid state and modelling fit my needs.
@cheesysped
@cheesysped 4 года назад
Defs in the same boat. The guitar community is the most toxic community of all. Can you imagine where we could be today if every piece of advancement wasn't shut down by with a '"BuT iT iSnT a ReAl TuBe aMp". In the past year I sold my two tube amps (Vox AC15 and Fender Deluxe Reverb) and now use a Mooer Preamp Live into a 2x12 V30 cab. I am soon going to buy a second Jensen cab for fender tones.
@robertstager6538
@robertstager6538 4 года назад
I am just a bedroom rocker, but I also use a Boss Katana. The clean channel is a blank canvas, or to put it less kindly, kind of sterile. However, with a $35 Joyo American Sound pedal giving some grit and personality to the Katana 50 on the clean channel, this blank canvas really comes alive with a broad sweep of Fender-like sounds. The Joyo pedal has low, mid and high eq, plus very useful voice, level and drive settings to hit a multitude of tonal sweet spots. Next up, I'm trying the Joyo ACTone pedal for some Vox-like tones. I am not worried about impressing people on a stage, or wowing them with high end technology. I am just chasing tone on a budget and greatly enjoying it. BTW, I have a Fender Super Champ tube amp and a Marshall 1 watt tube head. So, I have no argument with the tube purists. However, to just turn on and quickly get into jamming, the Katana is my 'go to' amp. And, with the Joyo drive, voice and level knobs tweaked, the Katana at the 0.5 watt setting allows me to get very satisfying tone without blowing the walls out.
@Mooseboy08
@Mooseboy08 4 года назад
@WhatWouldHouseDo: Amen.
@stk7778
@stk7778 4 года назад
Metallica really doesnt carry much weight
@tomcaron9113
@tomcaron9113 4 года назад
I left my tube amps behind for a Katana head two years ago. Gig with it every weekend. But, I miss my tube amps. Bought a Gries 5 Blackface 5 watt and love it but not big enough for gigging. This new Deluxe TM May be the ticket. Always wanted a Deluxe but could not handle the weight. Just ordered one of the TM Deluxe’s. Yeah, the price is nuts but it will make my life easier and satisfy my hunger for the Fender sound.
@Ericstlaurent
@Ericstlaurent 4 года назад
What a GREAT review - thank you!
@jetstrat
@jetstrat 4 года назад
This is the future of amps. I am a vintage fender amp guy but this sounds great and is perfect for gigging.
@petergraham9267
@petergraham9267 4 года назад
I'm with you on this one........a tube guy ALL my life.......and now this! WOW! Heading to my local store to try these out just as soon as they arrive......at last, a company who really understands what we old school players actually want from solid state amps :)
@aidanvinum
@aidanvinum 4 года назад
Peter Graham Did you try it out? How did it compare?
@metallion0738
@metallion0738 3 года назад
I agree with you bro.
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 3 года назад
Maybe but its certainly not THIS. Just want to point out again that in THIS form, they're selling a digital modeling amp in the disguise of a '65 Deluxe Reverb/Twin Reverb that is neither, for $900! So when you peel back the marketing, you're left with a $900 digital modeling amp, that only has 1 amp model. What would be the argument for buying one of these over either the actual 65 DRRI/TRRI that can be purchased got a couple hundred $ more, OR; a digital modeling amp that has dozens of amp models? It's digital, so it's not like having only 1 model will somehow make it sound or perform better. Hell, they could have at least given the option to choose Tweed/Brown/Black/Silver face models, right? At $900, you've gone beyond the price that someone may buy one to have a practice or gig amp someone buys for the convenience and you're at the budget where people are looking for performance and tone. At that point, you're better off bitting the bullet for a Kemper- profiling amp. I build, mod and service tube amps, so maybe I'm a bit biased; but I've played through those and I would get one without a second thought and probably use it more than any other amp. As it is one been running through an Ethos Overdrive as my preamp and that's solid state, so I'm not dead set against anything but tube. This thing just send like a loser (business-wise). I don't know how the idea of this went through more than 3 people at Fender, and no one spoke up loudly enough to point out the issues. But, they also sell Strats and Teles for$8000+ that at the the of day are still an alder or Ash slab body with a maple neck bolted to it, and they find enough people to buy them for it to make sense making them; so what do I know?
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 3 года назад
@Ganjang gongjangjang I hear what you're saying regarding modeling amps through a mic. However that's not all, and I'm not sure the Fender isn't. There certainly are emulators that can factor in the mic, and remove it. The kemper gets the sound of the amp that's being profiled by hearing it through a mic. But they're not just recording it, they send out a series of tones into the amp they're profiling and based on how it hear those tones, it knows what the other amp is doing to produce them. Granted they're 2X the price of the Fender, not considering what it can do, I'm more surprised that it's ONLY twice they price.
@scottperry8162
@scottperry8162 5 лет назад
Wow that's the best modeling amp tone ever!!
@ericecklund676
@ericecklund676 4 года назад
I had a Fender Twin back in '83 and after you stuck the foot switch in the back, I was moving like 70 pounds. The same sound in a package that's half the weight, yes this is very nice. I close my eyes and just listen to you play...I really can't tell the difference. I'd bet the audience can't either.
@williamcammer9211
@williamcammer9211 4 года назад
The ampI've been waiting for!
@DanEvans-yb6wk
@DanEvans-yb6wk Год назад
Another great video, Chris! Very helpful to me at this point where I'm deciding exactly how I should go. Thank you for the informative vid! I can so relate the the weight on an old school Twin...
@patrickcarroll1754
@patrickcarroll1754 4 года назад
Great review, man. Fair points all around.
@jameswilson3554
@jameswilson3554 4 года назад
I'm plugged in to some studio monitors I can tell a difference on the clean channel its brighter and cleaner. Excellent over drive on the new one. Good video..
@bobkrause0103
@bobkrause0103 2 года назад
Great job as usual Chris!
@MrDavemiley
@MrDavemiley 4 года назад
I bought a used Black Face Twin from you guys 40 years ago !
@wlawnsldj
@wlawnsldj 4 года назад
I want one. Really want this. Super light and sounds just like the tube ones. But a used Mesa Boogie is available locally for about the same price.
@whenvioletsturngrey9597
@whenvioletsturngrey9597 2 года назад
I played a Twin Tone Master a few nights ago. I expected to hate it. I hoped I would. Now I have to have one. Treble cranked, Mid up a little, bass down a ways, vol cranked & it broke up really nicely w/o a pedal. So nice. #whenvioletsturngrey
@roadkingrocks5067
@roadkingrocks5067 5 лет назад
These amps are the future boys and girls! I see Fender going this route with all their popular amps.
@jodyg5648
@jodyg5648 4 года назад
You are dead on sir , When they come out with the 68 silver face I’m goin in......
@brunoornelas7240
@brunoornelas7240 4 года назад
I have an orange cr120h with 2x12v30 and could not be happier, nice tones in the bedroom and rehearsal. A deluxe reverb with 11kg, with attenuator and direct in with cab simulation seems wonderful, a very nice addition to the arsenal. The tube vs new technology discution is pointless in my mind, I love tube amps, but the applications of these new features are mind blowing. You can directly record at 2.am in your bedroom with great tones without getting the cops at your door, with the tone Masters you can even turn off the speaker and go true silent recording. That is incredibly handy and game changing in my mind.
@sammaynard822
@sammaynard822 4 года назад
What an amazing, fun job you have! Sign me up! I want to try everything as it's invented as well, - so envious!..also, I could hear a slight difference, even on my crappy TV. But if I wasn't listening really close, I wouldn't have heard the slightly richer, more organic (strange for a machine) sound of the tubes. So, not bad!- personally, I would try and wait till I could come up with the extra $500 or so, or find a deal on a real one but the cranked tone on low volume is intriguing since I live in a duplex and don't really play with people, let alone in live settings with a band.
@glennpace9783
@glennpace9783 4 года назад
So I went and tried one for myself....and I was impressed. It had a great tone and the controls felt "natural". In fact, if the Tonemaster plate at the bottom of the amp were hidden, you would be hard pressed to know it was not the tube version. You might be able to find a difference in a side-by-side comparison but in the real world, you won't ever play that way, so comparison's are strictly for the science of it. In reality, you could plug this in and no one will be able to tell...OK....your back will know for sure, and your house-mates (when you dial the attenuater down). Well done.
@Gratefulman1965
@Gratefulman1965 Год назад
Here it is 2023 and I have a Tonemaster twin reverb that sits next to my Supersonic 22. I also own a Modeling amp the fender GT-100 with looper footswitch and I own a Peavey Nashville 112 for my lap steel. At 58 the supersonic is about the max weight I am willing to pack and the Tonemaster twin is a very nice addition especially in the weight department. I will say I have researched the crap out of these amps and I finally recently pulled the trigger on the twin in the blonde/oxblood and I’m sold. Thanks for this video!
@JaffaRoad
@JaffaRoad 2 года назад
Renting one now to audition with all my guitars and pedals, So far ( 1 week) I am super impressed. I can think of a couple of tube amps that have a slight tonal edge over this amp, but it is so close and the weight and other features make up for that.
@rockyeasterline348
@rockyeasterline348 4 года назад
Finally some rock sound didn't know you had it in you there you go nail that thing
@Panchissimo3
@Panchissimo3 4 года назад
Awesome review!!
@billtravis523
@billtravis523 16 дней назад
Thanks for this review.
@electrikdigital
@electrikdigital 2 года назад
Thanks!! Great to hear someone crank up the Tone Master in a RU-vid demo! So far I've only found clean demos. I want one if I can get that Sex Pistols crunch!
@Oscarrrrrrrrrrr
@Oscarrrrrrrrrrr 2 года назад
I've seen/heard other comparisons where the difference isn't that clear but in this particular comparison (starting at 6:35) it's clear to me the original simply blows the Tone Master away. The original has tons more detail and more nuance (which is what makes a Twin so great to begin with). This is partially due to differing EQ settings (quite a bit brighter on the original), but the sound color/texture is just so much beautiful/dynamic on the original.
@fluorophoremusic3679
@fluorophoremusic3679 2 года назад
Exactly...and, I'd be okay with that if this was priced appropriately for an all digital, mass-produced recreation. Yet, here we are with Fender charging $1000 for digital re-issue of a classic tube amplifier, which can easily be had for hundreds less on the used market. You can just buy a real all-tube twin used for less than this...it makes no sense to me. If Fender priced this at say 350-500$ I'd be all in.
@scottmoreau5630
@scottmoreau5630 2 года назад
@@fluorophoremusic3679 Why would they price it lower than an effects pedal like the Iridium? Literally makes no sense. I think there’s a misconception that digital means cheap, but add up everything that goes into this amp and Fender wouldn’t be making much at $300-500. They would also be going against every market trend right now. They are priced correctly IMO. Yeah, you can totally get a vintage one or a reissue but it’s missing the point on who these are for. Even vintage Twins differ from amp to amp. People need to go plays a Tonemaster first before basing judgment off of a RU-vid video.
@Tstdycgyr
@Tstdycgyr Год назад
I agree 100% and to me on the Tone Master the thicker strings sound quite compressed which is not so good and not on the original. Also the reverb decay is overpowering on the TM.
@shakabrahhhhh
@shakabrahhhhh Месяц назад
It’s literally just eq
@Oscarrrrrrrrrrr
@Oscarrrrrrrrrrr Месяц назад
@@shakabrahhhhh No it's not. The timbre is clearly different.
@michaelkuhn8929
@michaelkuhn8929 4 года назад
I've used the 1st Peavy VYPYR 30. Never ever go back. These amps are just fantastic.
@ledalius
@ledalius 4 года назад
Nice review! Thanks! one question: was the bright switch on both Amps on?
@blakevanhouten1672
@blakevanhouten1672 4 года назад
I finally got a chance to play one of these in the store and I hate that I’m saying this but they sound better than the tube counterpart... I played them side by side and the tone master is basically everything you love about a twin and nothing you don’t. The key is modeling ONE amp. I’d love to see them do this same thing with the narrow panel tweed amps.
@jameshart9943
@jameshart9943 3 года назад
Sign me up for a tone master high power tweed twin!!!
@davidcudlip6587
@davidcudlip6587 2 года назад
Got the blonde Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb a few weeks ago and love it. Had a silver face Deluxe Reverb years ago and this is way better. Easier to dial in a good overdrive tone without all the volume.
@willbyrd5717
@willbyrd5717 2 года назад
I turn my head and I can’t tell which one is playing!
@willbyrd5717
@willbyrd5717 2 года назад
There really isn’t any difference
@hanknelson3231
@hanknelson3231 5 лет назад
Really like your videos, can you do a video on the Ibanez Joe Satriani Signature JS24P. My question is by moving the pickup slightly farther up on the neck, give you better neck sound. Especially on higher notes.
@larrytusoni401
@larrytusoni401 3 года назад
Great comparison! thanks for sharing! Now I have to decide for the blond or the black version
@mailvilla
@mailvilla 4 года назад
... 03/04/2020: Three questions: (1) What volume does the amp starts to break up? (2) The attenuator is basically a Master Volume switch, so why is there no headphone jack? and (3) Why is there no looper jack?
@isaacarussi5822
@isaacarussi5822 4 года назад
1) a twin reverb should have some breaking up and around 6 or 7 and is INSANELY loud with out an attenuation 2) well yes and no, at each level they simulated what the amp would sound attinuted at that level. For the headphone jack you could get an XLR to 3.5 mil cable and take a pair of headphones and you are set. 3) the twin reverb doesn’t need an fix loop because it is so clean. The only need for an fix loop is you want to use the distortion in the amp for all the pedals effected by distortion. If you take a pedal layout with proper pedal order into a clean amp you really don’t need an fix loop mate. Hope that was helpful.
@brendanmoran7415
@brendanmoran7415 4 года назад
Sounds good. I think the difference I am hearing mostly comes down to the speaker difference. Neodymium mags definitely have a sound to them: not bad, just different, kind of hi-fi and polished. Just curious: why no comparison of the overdriven sounds? Original twin just too loud?
@ronsisk3181
@ronsisk3181 4 года назад
Dude! That Em - G - Asus2 jam sounded amazing! And that Tone Master Twin sounds awesome. An Amp that powerful that I can set at 1 watt and play in my apartment? Another reason to love Fender...like I need another one.
@siitan83
@siitan83 21 день назад
yep. i own one and I can play it at night, when the neighbours sleep with 1w and volume around 3-4...
@JohnRBooth
@JohnRBooth 2 года назад
Thanks for the review. One question, can the Tone Master TR get as CLEANLY loud as the regular TR? And is this accomplished by turning the output selector to 85 watts? Thanks
@jljonesar
@jljonesar 2 года назад
Just played one and cranked it, it’s got all the clean headroom you could want
@superbford
@superbford 4 года назад
I played the Deluxe Reverb today. Sounds great. Weight is light. I want one but will wait a bit to see if prices come down a bit or sales happen.
@stevedodson5399
@stevedodson5399 2 года назад
Hum the thing that bothers me unless I have misunderstood is after the warranty runs out and the amp breaks down it can't be repaired by a tech close to you. So do you send it back to fender for repair or as another guy on the tube say thats it when it goes out your done. Any feedback would be helpful. Thanks
@carlweiderick
@carlweiderick 2 года назад
Amazing!
@geraldfrieberg7921
@geraldfrieberg7921 4 года назад
The Twin Tone Master is indeed a fine amp. However, do not overlook the Roland Blues Cube series, particularly the Stage and Artist models. They are also superb at emulating the sounds of a tube amp, and are also known to be extremely reliable. Just my 2 bits....I could easily live with either brand. The reliability of digital stuff is so good these days that it is difficult to justify the tube amp cost (Witness: Fender's 64 Custom Deluxe Reverb hand-wired is 2500 bucks !! @ 20 watts !) There is a HUGE amount of emotion and nostalgia attached to tube amps. What I do NOT miss about my previous tube amps: NOISE (i.e. hiss and 60 Hz hum which is always there...). Once you experience the QUIET idle of a digital amp that sounds so good...you'll never go back to tubes. AND, I suspect Fender and others see the writing on the wall, as quality tubes are getting scarcer, and more expensive.
@M5guitar1
@M5guitar1 4 года назад
Do you recommend the Twin over the Deluxe Reverb for playing outdoor gigs? I love the sound of my Mesa Lonestar 2x12 Classic, but the weight kills me. My Mesa is going up for sale soon.
@robertmailloux3720
@robertmailloux3720 4 года назад
Dont sell your Mesa,in two weeks ,you will regret it!.. Save money,do a yard sale.Buy this piece of junk.
@metallion0738
@metallion0738 3 года назад
Don't listen, sell your tube amp, they are back killers nowadays, both the twin, and the reverb are good and will take you there, can't hardly tell the difference with a tube amp.
@JaffaRoad
@JaffaRoad 2 года назад
I am renting a TM twin and was loving it and about to buy it until tonight when I did some recording. I ABed the xlr out to an SM 57 and the XLR is muddy sounding and nothing like the 57 it (the DI out) is barley usable, also there is no real difference between position 1 and 2 on the IR switch. Do I have a malfunctioning unit, or did you or anyone here have similar experience or an idea of how to fix this?
@ericwilliamson9869
@ericwilliamson9869 3 года назад
I know I’m a little late to this, but is it possible to bridge (jumper) the two inputs like you used to on the tube versions?
@scrimmerman
@scrimmerman 4 года назад
Nice sounding gear. Although I can definitely appreciate these, I'll stick with my '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue with TUBES. Now, if Marshall can just do the same with a vintage Plexi, I'm THERE baby!
@gnatiu
@gnatiu 2 года назад
The "That pedal show" guys can tell the difference. Haha. To me the Tone Master is absolutely the choice. If there is a difference, it is not that big being worth breaking your back and fumbling with tubes. Thank you for the review.
@TurboMountTV
@TurboMountTV 3 года назад
Would the Tone Master sound any different / better if swapped with original C12K speakers ? Thanks,
@72superlead
@72superlead 3 года назад
I can hear a small difference, but to me, it's the "feel" of an amp when playing. The Twin feels massive and does translate onstage. You can feel it but yes in saying that there's no way you could pick the difference live or on a recording I own a 65' Twin reissue from just a few years ago and between that and the Marshall 50w plexi I don't feel the need to own anything else
@henryfrank4073
@henryfrank4073 Год назад
Nice sounds good Fender strikes again.🎶🎶🎸
@zlutz814
@zlutz814 2 года назад
It does sound good! On clean settings it is more compressed and doesn’t respond to attack as well.
@p.s8950
@p.s8950 3 года назад
I got a Fender Deluxe Tone Master and loved it so much I bought a 2nd, blonde model and I'm getting rid of All my tube amps. Gotta move on and change with the times.
@bmcpsd31
@bmcpsd31 4 года назад
There’s definitely a difference. Not necessarily a bad thing. Just depends on what you’re looking for.
@willhurt3446
@willhurt3446 3 года назад
Great comparison. Does Tonemeaster feedback like a tube amp?
@jymdiesel2655
@jymdiesel2655 4 года назад
Digital version seems to have more mid scoop. Did you try and match the tone or are you using the same settings? Sounds good though.
@bradleyt
@bradleyt 5 лет назад
I hear a slight difference but it's probably from the difference in speakers in both amps. Very close!!!
@christianboddum8783
@christianboddum8783 4 года назад
And little differences in mic placement too ;-)
@pentachronic
@pentachronic 4 года назад
Agreed. This is the sucky thing about tube amps. You find some tubes that sound good and then one blows and you are screwed. Most tubes have different characteristics (the transconductance curves are very different). SS is consistent.
@pentachronic
@pentachronic 4 года назад
Fyi, my definition of SS includes digital (maybe that wasn't clear). You have modelling which is DSP based and linear amplifiers using Class-D output stages etc. The linearity of Class-D amps is excellent these days. Class-D transient response is better than any tube amp too. There are some amazing FRFR speakers out there which means it becomes a modelling job.
@pentachronic
@pentachronic 4 года назад
I have a Helix and there can be digital clipping too in all of the DSP blocks but I'm sure that Fender was very careful when they designed this amp to avoid that. Other modellers such as Helix/Kemper/etc the users have to be very aware of what they are doing.
@patreidcocolditzcastle632
@patreidcocolditzcastle632 4 года назад
i knew it would come to and thank god.look a uad amp sims ,ive always wanted to use uad sims live,fender well done,youve answered a thing for me ive dreamed of
@BioStuff415
@BioStuff415 4 года назад
playing starts at 6:36
@PMXplorer
@PMXplorer 3 года назад
Thank you 🙏
@chopperking007
@chopperking007 3 года назад
Cheers bud
@cliffdykes1171
@cliffdykes1171 4 года назад
Sounds great may get one
@jljonesar
@jljonesar 2 года назад
Played both the twin and super tonemasters today after having used tube amps for years (fender, dr. Z, bad cat, etc) These amps kick serious ass. Sure the feel is different, mainly in the articulation and responsiveness, but the tone is reaaaaally good. The XLR direct out, attenuators, and weight make this a viable alternative for the working musician. Now I’ve gotta get one.
@fluorophoremusic3679
@fluorophoremusic3679 2 года назад
Why? It's $1000 for a digital recreation of the real Twin...you can just get a real twin on the used market for hundreds less than this amp and it's the real thing. Makes no sense to me.
@jljonesar
@jljonesar 2 года назад
@@fluorophoremusic3679 I listed a few of the key benefits in my comment above
@fluorophoremusic3679
@fluorophoremusic3679 2 года назад
@@jljonesar I just disagree that any of the things you listed are anywhere near the ballpark of justifying $1000 new for this. That's absolutely, totally insane. It's a digital amp that's mass produced overseas for what I promise to be pennies comparatively. I always find it so, so strange that brands which blatantly rip of and clone designs at a greatly improved price point, such as Behringer or Bugera, get so much crap from the musician community. Yet, brands that release gear and sell it at a hugely inflated premium simply on the back of its own name (e.g., slap Fender Reverb on there) seem to get a pass. The latter is far worse. Again, it's not a viable alternative if it costs literally more than several REAL twin reverbs on the useb market...with real tubes...that certainly sound as good (arguably better as it's the real deal) than this. Even if you didn't want to go the tube route, there are solid state amplifiers and digital recreation amplifiers on the market at more than half the pricepoint of this and offer as much tonality.
@trevor4533
@trevor4533 4 года назад
Wow, this thing sounds great. I'll wait around until I can get a good deal on a used one. No effects loop is kinda a bummer though.
@CountrySingerWannabe
@CountrySingerWannabe 3 года назад
I prefer running my pedals through the front anyway.
@baronvonchickenpants6564
@baronvonchickenpants6564 4 года назад
Over the years and spending thousands on great chasing the ever elusive tone in my head but always having to compromise on one thing or another, now if it gets the job done in a satisfactory way, that's good enough for me, including setting up packing away and loading and unloading, I'm using katanas now instead of Marshall half stacks And I'm quite happy with it, I've just picked up a mk1 100w combo for the price of a revalve on my JVM
@docwill184
@docwill184 4 года назад
I always wondered about cab and speaker emulation through 'name' brands like Celestions or JBL's I have an early Line 6. They must have voiced their speaker in a neutral way, assuming that's possible
@theexpert8163
@theexpert8163 4 года назад
NICE LOOKING TELE CEPT FOR IT'S PUPS !!!!!!!!
@mariozamprogno1654
@mariozamprogno1654 5 лет назад
The purest be damn those are amazing apps
@bobbyruggs808
@bobbyruggs808 4 года назад
I'll stick with my Boss Katana 100 2x12 amp. Can get pretty close to this clean tone and is great in a live setting too. Around $350 used.
@PPoyares
@PPoyares 3 года назад
I presume you would notice the difference playing the amps in high volumes with the tubes driven hot. But at overall volume, especially through the mic, it's quite the same tone. They would add a "bias knob" at the back of the tone masters to emulate the tube bias selector.
@paistefreak18
@paistefreak18 3 года назад
Why doesn’t it not have an effects loop how are you supposed to use time based affects won’t it sound compressed and distorted in front of the amp?
@jeffmakor7135
@jeffmakor7135 5 лет назад
The main difference that I've noticed is that a touch of presence is missing from the tone master. I heard this in other videos and, to my ears, it's a good thing. If anything, the sound reminds me of an older fender with speakers that have lost their brittleness or harsh top end. I tend to back off the upper frequencies on amps and prefer a sweet more middle toned sound, and when I try one of these in a venue and have this all confirmed, that will probably help me to make up my mind and buy one. A good move from Fender. ps. I think the chap reviewing is doing a great job. Thanks for the upload.
@tonymesser6988
@tonymesser6988 4 года назад
The attenuation may be worth it alone! I love this. If you use the XLR out does it bypass the speaker connection?
@promoted738
@promoted738 4 года назад
It does not but you can use the "bypass" switch on the back of the amp. or even better - line out into a pedal board to go stereo out and dry mic the front at the same time.
@HeviNova
@HeviNova 4 года назад
I will wait to see what the next version is like before I pick one up. Sounded great, but that guitar being out of tune was difficult to listen to.
@mr.banana4893
@mr.banana4893 3 года назад
And indeed , this day would come. Great amp. If you have some nice , fancy overdrive, and distortion. Ultimate gig rig.
@jamesmarcin4787
@jamesmarcin4787 4 года назад
Sounds like the same idea that Roland has done with their Blues Cube series. Love mine.😁
@simonsagal5469
@simonsagal5469 4 года назад
I had a Roland Artist Was very happy. That I made a mistake and took home (just for a few days) Victoria. Do I need to say more...?
@noetigenfallz
@noetigenfallz 4 года назад
Simon Sagal Who is victoria?
@jimhudson556
@jimhudson556 Месяц назад
Thank you, you settled my conundrum, the ToneMaster is sweeter, fatter, fuller, the True Twin sounds thin and brittle, no Tubes in my future, great video, so thank you, well done!
@echoguitarist
@echoguitarist 4 года назад
I've played both. The original is still the king but the Tone Master is pretty impressive.
@sugarlife485
@sugarlife485 4 года назад
yes
@fluorophoremusic3679
@fluorophoremusic3679 2 года назад
How is $1000 digital copy impressive? When the real thing is superior and costs less on the used market
@echoguitarist
@echoguitarist 2 года назад
@@fluorophoremusic3679 I guess I'm more open-minded.
@tonedriverss8629
@tonedriverss8629 4 года назад
The new Tonemaster KILLS the old tube dinosaur in SO many ways ... not just in better tone ! Amazing .
@Hugoknots
@Hugoknots Год назад
I wouldn't say tone is better. But price and weight are for sure big winners.
@paulsummerside
@paulsummerside 4 года назад
Brill, but lets see Tonemaster Bass amps please. The real twin was perhaps a little bit more open and dynamic. But would happily play through either. A distinct first for me. Well done Fender.
@russromito4903
@russromito4903 3 года назад
Yes you can tell the difference. Its a matter of preference. The solid state is easier to maintain and less cost.
@stepvanjoe3469
@stepvanjoe3469 4 года назад
Honestly they are close, the original twin definitely sounds more alive then its digital counterpart but the tone master sounds pretty good. i'd be good with it.
@ClockWerkOrange
@ClockWerkOrange 3 года назад
Yeah, the original is a little brighter and cuts through more. However, maybe dial in the bass/tone on the guitar and amp to match
@joeysgear1419
@joeysgear1419 2 года назад
@@ClockWerkOrange you can never match, thats the digital dilemma. They only sound good when they are slightly duller and rolled off, because when you try to dial in the right amount of presence or poke, they begin to reveal their true nature. Things just get harsh. So you're also stuck with that slightly dull tone.
@peopledonotexist
@peopledonotexist 2 года назад
@@joeysgear1419 not true anymore
@fluorophoremusic3679
@fluorophoremusic3679 2 года назад
Yeah, but not for $1000 new--that's more than a real twin used...???
@udertyrat
@udertyrat 4 года назад
Does it come in a tweed head?
@tomeisenmenger7048
@tomeisenmenger7048 4 года назад
Cool amp. Hope they bring out a Princeton Reverb in this lineup.
@ultragukuss1325
@ultragukuss1325 4 года назад
Tom Eisenmenger But the normal tube one is not so heavie.. its totally easy to carry.. love the tube one, they will probably put one out anyway, no more changing tubes is definitely an advantage though..
@ericm5393
@ericm5393 3 года назад
how does this amp pair with a acoustic guitar ?
@rivercity3908
@rivercity3908 4 года назад
Wow, my gut reaction when I heard "modeling amp" and "digital" was a "here we go again" reaction. But hearing it I'm pretty impressed. I'm hearing that warm full tube tone and it sounds very organic. I think what I'm most impressed by is the reverb. On top of that it's light and I can get tube breakup at bedroom levels. I went from wanting to hate it to wanting to own it haha.
@--uday
@--uday 9 месяцев назад
Man, I really wanted to be blown away and not be able to tell the difference, but it's pretty stark for me. Maybe it's because I play a lot of amp sims, but the dead giveaways on the Tone Master are the slight digital artifacts, the lack of bloom, and an overall compression that's squishing some dynamics. The reverb also feels digital. On the Twin, the first thing that gave it away was the 60Hz hum (😅), but also a lush, wide reverb and a large dynamic range. Frequency response wise I do actually think the two are fairly similar, it's the stuff outside that that's lacking. Thanks for the demo!
@Natemasterflex
@Natemasterflex 4 года назад
Definitely a difference, part may be volume? The Tone Master seemed like it was louder...
@superbford
@superbford 4 года назад
If these sell well we'll be seeing a blackface Princeton version I hope.... though I do think they need to come down a bit in the price... and should probably add an effects loop in the back... just to make them more usable for the modern player..... and of course Vox and Marshall will probably follow along in the next year. Would love to see a Vox with two or three channels of AC15 and 30 plus a top boost channel. Awesome.... and then speaker sim out for blues and greenbacks.
@superbford
@superbford 4 года назад
@Jesús St James I forgot about those.... I think if these do well though you'll see Vox and Marshall look at something similar.... Vox AC15 and 30... although they would need to also make sure they lightened the weight of their heavy cabs, haha.... and maybe try to get celestion to design a neo that sounds more like a blue.... and of course a Marshall JTM45 or Plexi would probably gain a lot of interest if of similar quality.
@PerryCodes
@PerryCodes 4 года назад
Are you saying "confluence" reverb? Pretty sure you're meaning "convolution" reverb... where you take an impulse-response from either an actual space or an existing device (spring box) and use that to create your reverb model.
@MichaelHattem
@MichaelHattem 3 года назад
I'd like to see someone do a shoot-out between the Tone Master and a few VST sims (Amplitube, Guitar Rig, Bias, etc...) both with the sims through a cabinet and mic'd with an SM57 and the cabinet sim output.
@michaelutley
@michaelutley 2 года назад
I wanted a Twin Reverb for so dang long and The tonemaster +15% off promo made that a reality. That was until I played it back to back with the TR tube. At first, I was impressed but the longer I played it, the more I noticed the difference. Primarily in and out of chord transitions. It felt flat, stiff and unnatural. Id say, they got pretty dang close but it still lacks the beauty and organic sound of tubes, especially in the Twin Reverb. That Amp is just so damn special.
@rogertaylor6
@rogertaylor6 4 года назад
I can hear the difference, and I do like the tube Twin better. However, no question I'd grab the Tone Master going out the door to a gig or rehearsal.
@darronfenton4145
@darronfenton4145 2 года назад
I noticed you did not overdrive the classic twin but only the solid state amp? I have a feeling that the tube version would have sounded very different. Solid state in theory should sound fine when clean. It’s only when you clip an amp does transistor amps fall apart.
@jakemitchell1671
@jakemitchell1671 3 года назад
I own 6 "vintage" Fender tube amps, as well as a Prosonic. So I'm a pretty die-hard TUBE guy. However, as these modeling amps evolve there's just almost NO reason to know own one, esp if you're a working musician. Tube amps are heavy; they need maintenance, they sometimes let you down; they can be targets for thieves. So I'm very happy to see these new products from Fender (and others). The technology is only going to get better and better
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 3 года назад
Very true!
@robertmailloux3720
@robertmailloux3720 4 года назад
Hey nobody ever plays a riff from The Cramps! Why??? Thx for posting.
@bigblueplanet1968
@bigblueplanet1968 3 года назад
OR 45grave. Darn it
@ck2music712
@ck2music712 3 года назад
Sure nailed it to me... That's a LOT of tech for just ONE sound, just wish they could've came in less expensive...
@billykoscielny9826
@billykoscielny9826 3 года назад
The Tone Master sounds a little brighter if that makes sense? It sounds great though.
@jerrytidmore9485
@jerrytidmore9485 4 года назад
I like the tone master sound better its a little clearer and out front or something.
@tomcaron9113
@tomcaron9113 3 года назад
Picked up a used TMDR so the price did not hurt as much. I just needed a good clean pedal plate form. This does it. Critics claim that the attenuator is not a real one because it’s digital. All I know is it works. Best amp for recording out from. Amazing sound. Need. Headphone out? Just get an adapter for the xl connector. Really strange watching the amp boot up instead of warming up the tubes. Still love my BlackFace Champ. But for gigging, the TM works so well.
@NeMaAn
@NeMaAn 4 года назад
The original is brighter
@eddmaster9
@eddmaster9 2 года назад
A bit warmer
@mrpoolplayer6379
@mrpoolplayer6379 4 года назад
Very Good Presentation, you are a very knowledgeable guitarist & a very good speaker. However, I play a Pedal Steel Guitar, so WE would like a demo on the Pedal Steel, so we too can go by the bank on our way to the music store....
@whimpypatrol5503
@whimpypatrol5503 4 года назад
Differences in twin reverbs over the years have been like variations of styling of the Ford T-Bird. But, because the knob panel on the tone master is black, I think it models a '64 blackface twin. But Fender doesn't say because, whatever twin it emulates, it sounds noticly better than new tube twins on many videos (and Fender would never admit vintage fenders sound better than new fender tube amps). Does it sound as good as a real golden era '64 twin? Does it take pedals? Does it pair well ES-335s like a real '64? Can it be dumblized or tweeked. Does it emulate Fender better than kemper, helix or FX? Would Santana ever gig w/ it?
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